The reason you haven't seen much of an increase in davinci resolve support is because *propper* GPU acceleration requires you buy davinci for the full asking price. I experienced this when I first use davinci resolve!
The thing is I like gaming performance of AMD gpus but i also do animation where nvidia gpus comes in handy. Amd should also focous on creative work not only gaming. Nice vedio and good to hear your opinion on the topic 👍
@@AnkitKumar-lq1oh Yup, even the base model 3060 will run laps around the 7900xtx when it comes to blender renders. In a sane world, that should never happen.
if the majority of people who use blender own an NVIDIA GPU, what’s the financial incentive for specifically optimizing for AMD and intel arc users? this is the main obstacle that AMD has to overcome - the developers of these productivity applications simply don’t care, and that’s why NVIDIA basically has a monopoly in that sense. if fewer customers own an AMD GPU, there are less reasons to optimize for AMD, which leads to even less people buying AMD, which means there are even less reasons to optimize for AMD, etc. it’s the feedback loop that is killing the GPU market.
I bought a new 6700 XT last summer, just as the prices settled down after the crypto crash. Back then it cost the same as 3060 Ti (at least here, in Poland), and I went with the red team just because of the VRAM capacity.
Even better choice nowadays as the 6700 XT price undercuts the 3060 TI (at least in the UK and NL). + Better raster performance + More VRAM + Cheaper - No CUDA acceleration (if you don't use programs that support it not really a con) - Worse raytracing support (although in this class of GPU raytracing gimps performance so hard you don't want it enabled anyhow) I had to pick between those two as well as that's within my budget and went for the 6700 XT - no regrets. It still entertains me that I can now play StarCraft 2 without the graphics card fans even spinning haha.
Same, I built my first PC on January of this year, and I was in between the 3060 ti or the 6700XT, both were around the same price at the time of buying the components, $350 iirc, but since I really don't care about ray tracing and whatever Nvidia decides to focus on more with their gpus, I ended up going with the 6700XT, and boi do I love it, I can record and play games at the same time with no issues, the Adrenaline software helps a lot when I want to check my performance, and it gives me the option to record which comes in handy whenever I forget to open Outplayed (yes I use this to record my gameplay/highlights). I'm satisfied with the GPU and overall my PC
Just built my PC January of this year and really wanted to go with the 6700 XT but it was like 200 USD more than 3060 Ti. Ended up going with the 3060 Ti. Still would because the performance increase isn't really worth it in my opinion. Most games still use 8GB of VRAM and those that do go over it still give a smooth experience. Just shitty games like TLOU part 1 are unstable but thank God I didn't buy that and actually checked the reviews. Also gonna go with AMD if possible next time, Nvidia really did us dirty by giving the 3060 Ti and 3070 only 8GB of VRAM. At this point, everyone who sold their 2080 Ti for the 3070 are just gonna feel scammed.
Ray tracing has been the biggest marketing ploy of the last 10 years. It is barely functional in a majority of it's applications and the games that it does work well in are so few and far between it's just not worth the insane margins they are squeezing out of gamers with these 800-2000 dollar cards. All the development time that has gone into this technology could have been used to make rasterization even better but here we are struggling to get 60 fps in most games with RT.
I mean, nvidia doesn't ONLY have RTX to sweeten the deal. Include Reflex, DLSS, better drivers and software support (imo), and now a new addition, VSR, along with whatever they may have in the future, since new techs are constantly coming out now, and it becomes far more subjective. If u want those features, an extra 150 bucks on top of an already $1050 min card for all that is honestly p justifiable. This isn't to say it's all good value, this is to say that AMD has the same value issues with the gen of cards.
@@mitchelldittes2555 especially when you consider the bad power usage, vapour chambers, drivers bricking windows, people asking to swap their 7900 cards on marketplace, and the sales on the 4080 that bring the 4080 to the same price as the 7900xtx
We're still in the growing pains stage. RT is needed if we're going to push graphics further and further. RT is also so much easier for devs to use over rasterization, no more needing to pre bake lights after every build (which can take hours). This will give artists and designers more time to develop more interesting things rather than sitting idle waiting for the lights to bake. Once RT is the standard and hardware has caught up to where even a cheap laptop APU can run RT without issues it'll be fine.
Went from gtx970 to a750. Threw the 970 in an hp prebuilt and it’s an emulation and multimedia pc for the living room. I knew intel would be kinda iffy at first so I got the a750 to hold me over until battlemage.
Respect for taking the risk on a shaky product like that. To be fair to Intel, they have come along way with the development and improvements of thier arc series.
I bought a 3060 Ti and I'm regretting the 8gb of vram for the price I paid. When AMD's 8000 series comes out I'm gonna switch over. Or if ARC Battlemage is really good I might try that as well. I've owned ATI/AMD cards before (9600, x700, 5870, 6990) and with Nvidia skimping VRAM I think it's high time I switched. We had 8gb back in 2015. Nvidia is just holding the market back just like Intel did with quad cores for a decade. I bought an AMD 2600, then the 5900x I have now because I was done with Intel. I'm also now DONE with Nvidia for a while.
RX 7600M XT only has 8GB VRAM. That means Navi 33 GPU only has a 128-bit memory controller. 7600 XT, which should have a similar performance as the 3060 Ti, will also have 8GB VRAM. So there is no need to regret it. Do you remember AMD deleted their comments that VRAM is important in the 5500 XT advertisement and released the 64-bit 4GB 6500 XT? AMD doesn't care about VRAM. 7900 XTX and 7900 XT should compete with 4090 and 4080 so they have 24 and 20GB VRAM. But RDNA 3 is too slow to compete with Ada. AMD can only lower the price to 4070 level to sell them. That's where the VRAM advantage in AMD comes in.
Why would you be unhappy with 8Gb of VRAM on a 60 series card? Not like you're going to have the performance to play 4K AAA with it anyway even if you had the VRAM. I do agree that Nvidia is a bitch and should really put more VRAM in their GPU, especially 70 and 80 series, but let's be real, it doesn't make any difference in your specific case
Ye I am not going intel till atleast Celestial because their drivers won't be as fully stable yet. If I rate AMD/Nvidia they're like an 9/10 stability while intel seems like a 3/10 even if it jumps to a 6/10 that's still alot lower. The problem is AMD isn't super competitive, like Vex said they're just matching nvidia. If you're matching nvidia and I am used to nvidia why would I switch to you? Give me a valid reason AMD: be super aggressive on pricing, create brand new technologies instead of following nvidia's lead, do something cool for once
I recently bought an RX 5700XT used for £150/$185 after being only on Nvidia cards exclusively for around 9 years, upgrading from my aging 980 Ti, and I'm glad I did upgrade. This thing is a beast and can actually play halo infinite at good fps unlike the 980 ti.
5700 XT is $100 in Hong Kong now. It is a good deal. But I think 1080 Ti is better. It has 3GB more VRAM than 5700 XT. VRAM has been a big problem for games now.
I brought AMD for the first time in years, because the potential for overclocking the 6800XT well above its pay grade looked great, I had heard all the AMD driver issues n problems and noticed most had workarounds etc(being a tinkerer none of this bothered me, so figured why not). got it, overclocked it, was not disapointed in the overclock at all(it performs better than anything I could have afforded nvidia side by a HUGE margin), but the first two weeks were a nightmare of working out crashes n bugs n issues, that everyone put down to driver issues, and had various work arounds for, such as turning off hybrid hibernate etc etc. turns out none of issues it had were driver issues at all, they could be reduced or removed by driver tweaks and software workarounds...but that only got rid of the symptoms not the actual problem. turns out the problem all along was the displayport cable quality/spec...cables that come with most monitors are version 1.2, and don't actually meet the 1.2 spec, on top of this, most cables you can buy don't actually meet the spec they were rated at.(unless you find a VESA certified cable) why is this a problem? refresh rate lock, if you have an out of spec cable, it can have problems locking to the refreshrate of your monitor correctly, it will lock to a random refreshrate such as 15hz even tho windows is showing 144hz, or it will fluctuate between certain points, 100hz-148hz for example. it also caused problems such as the screen being black after a shutdown(windows 11 by default does a hybrid sleep mode instead of an actual shutdown) and on wakeup if the cable unstableness caused an issue, you got a black screen OR stuttering on the desktop after "cold" boot when it had been off for awhile, and the only fix was a reboot, and if you forced a game while it was in this state before restarting, it would usually crash. how did I test and find this out? accidentally while checking my monitor for ghosting. using the UFO ghosting test site, it has a refresh rate indicator at the bottom. what does not having a stable refresh rate do? it causes random black screens, random game crashes, stutters and other issues. a new VESA certified 1.4a cable fixed all of these issues. the only two issues it didn't fix were video stuttering on a second monitor while playing a game on the primary high refreshrate monitor, and using AMD live recording with HEVC(both of these were known issues listed in the drivers, and got fixed in later driver versions)
I can confirm this, when i bought my 6900XT i also acquired an good quality HDMI cable, but some time ago i had to use an random poor quality cable for a week because reasons, that was when i faced my first problems with the card, which i had none up to that point.
I always bought nvidia, but I bought a RX 6600 a while agora and had a BUNCH of bugs, crashes and stuff. I know there's workarounds and all, but fuck it, i bought a card and have to fix it before using it? Hell no. Sold it and bought another NVIDIA one. AMD never again.
i feel like many people that complain about AMD “driver problems” tend to have a DP/HDMI cable that isn’t good, which leads to screen flickering and sometimes the screen turning black completely due to insufficient bandwidth through the cable in question. maybe not the majority of users who experience “driver problems” but i feel like some people just automatically blame AMD and blame the GPU itself because they don’t know what else could be wrong. it sucks that buying the right cable can be confusing but that’s just the way it is i guess. nothing is perfect.
Davinci Resolve free version doesn't come with full CPU and GPU encoder/decoder support. You need the studio version for full Hardware acceleration. It's not a problem of the nvidia drivers.
For me software wise I was having issues with my RX 6900 XT. In my situation I have three monitor, one of which is an ultra wide and the other 240hz (the third monitor was for Spotify/Discord). For some reason my graphics card acted weird and glitchy from time to time. I tried different sets of cables, reinstalled windows and upgrade to a top of the line SSD. Nothing solved this so I ended up gettint rid of it. Ended up buying an RTX 4070 TI and haven't had issues. Maybe I got unlucky with my AMD card. These days I just tell people to buy whatever works for them.
Don't forget to use something like DDU to completely uninstall your drivers before installing your new drivers, even if you're still on the same Nvidia or AMD side, as it can still cause problems.
Be careful if you're like me and don't know anything about DDU, I deleted everything even my motherboard drives and it took a while to get everything right again.
I also use DaVinci and Premier with a 6900XT and it works very well. Steve from HUB also uses a 6900XT in his main machine with Premier. On the topic of what games I play it's very similar to you, Overwatch and some indie games. It's been great at throwing out frames with my 360hz monitor.
i would love to have a AMD card - but i have to admit, Nvidia GPUs have simply better and reliable support for applications. Thats also the reason why i would stay with the green ones, although the AMD cards have more bang for the buck. They need to catch up. 6800 XT would be a great pick - but besides its out of my possibilites to buy them atm - AMD is just not very good at Blender Rendering and the company does not have a history of continous support for such applications.
That's such a load of crap... reliable my ass... My EVGA 1080 FTW was RMA twice in 10 months. I sold the third sample to a sucker like you that drink the coolaid... ua-cam.com/video/kxoXbfzP5BU/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/or7njUlYTLI/v-deo.html
Ball Caps are not to hide your hair, or lack of it. For those of us that are follicley challenged, it keep you warmer in the winter, and from having sunburn in the summer.
The driver issues with AMD these days just turn me off team red completely. I tried a 7900xt because of Vram and it was just a complete mess. I will rather pay more for an Nvidia GPU that I know will do the job without technical issues. It's plug-in-play and that is important at such prices
last time i had any AMD driver issues was in 2020 with the 5600xt... i've had the 6900xt, 6800xt twice, multiple 6700xts, 7800xt, not a single problem not a single driver problem, it's probably not the drivers....
Actually Driver issue was huge for me. Used 6800XT for 3 months with all other parts brand new incl. 13600K CPU. All steam games were doing fine, it's just that it had issues with online games, precisely with Riot games which I play the most. It had random freezes and crashes and frame dropping. After looking it up, it was a common issue in the Korean computing community as well as a lot of forum post at reddit too. Lost ark is an another game that had the same issue while I was looking up. Fed up with the crashes and lags, so I jumped ship to 4070ti by selling 6800XT with 40% lost value, but the best decision I made imo... On paper YES that AMD has much better cost value, but practically it is what it is and there is a reason why they have such reputation..
I wouldn't say they have a reputation for bad drivers or at least not anymore it's not how it was like 5-10yrs ago but now most of the time drivers are good and age pretty good and if there is a bad driver they at least acknowledge it and nvidia also has bad drivers literally most recent issues were high gpu/cpu usage when idle and then the Diablo 4 beta blowing up nvidia gpus
@@Clashy69 I was referring to my personal experiences and there were alot of people sharing the issue and this was this year.. and the ppl who shared the issue all within 2years period. My prob was immeadiately fixed when I switched to nvidia. So I can only judge from what I've seen. Radeon did work like a charm on Hogwarts Legacy and RDP2 but it just sucks with games that constantly updates like league. It is what it is mate.. I used both. Dont care what fanboys say
I tried a 6650xt myself and had driver issues w it as well. The moment I switched back no more issues. Like you I tried and won't try again. I returned it and I bought a used 4080strix 4 1100. I'm looking forward to trying an Intel gpu. I wanna see how battlemage does.
I currently have a GeForce GTX 1080 TI. It's a solid performer still, but I am looking at what options there will be for upgrading. I'm likely going to be looking at the next generations of cards. Hopefully the cost comes back down to earth a bit. NVidia has been anti-consumer for a while. Their actions have me wanting to move away from their gpus. Intel was a little disappointing. Looks like the hype for their next generation is starting to bubble up. Most of my decision on what card to go with will come down to what everything costs and their respective performance. I don't give a rat's azz about ray tracing so NVidia has no advantage with me.
I think buying Nvidia card right now is like paying extra just for Ray-Tracing and CUDA. I have been using Nvidia cards for years and I have been happy with them but with the current prices AMD just gives much better deal. I live in Poland and RTX 4080 is about 20% more expensive than RX 7900 XTX here at the moment and prices didn't change much in the last few weeks. Raster performance is roughly the same on those 2 cards. Paying 20% extra for ray-tracing and CUDA seems like a bad deal. Its not like RX 7900 XTX can't do ray-tracing either. I've seen benchmarks that show that its RT performance is still above RTX 3090 in most games. Performance in productivity apps varies but in some AMD wins and in others Nvidia is better so its very case by case thing.
New technologies are bound to improve and make it easier to run. Hating on RT and DSLL is just following a hivemind. I think nvidia is just taking a different path than amd and it's not yet worth getting for performance. Video game devs are lost cause tho can't defend them not finishing their games lol.
They all say problems with drivers, but none says the problem. Both cards have driver issues, for Nvidia the update is much smoother while amd is not. If you don’t do it properly you end up having problems. Nvidia really sucks, no vram, overpriced. Only 4090 is better the rest of the cards sucks.
As a blender user, I can't recommend enough for Nvidia GPU. Even if I get AMD at half the price of similar performing Nvidia, I'd still get Nvidia. AMD is way out of league in 3d production.
Used 1060 6GB since 2017 and this year upgraded to new 6800 XT (wanted to be safe and have warranty). Been using it for more than a month now and haven't encountered any major problems. Little nitpicks here and there, but nothing so serious that I consider returning it.
I mean, the pretty much fixed all the issues. AMD takes like 2 or so years to fix their drivers on the cards. Look at the 6700 XT for example, it used to go toe to toe against the 3060 Ti but can now surpass the 3070 in raw performance (Not being VRAM limited) in every game. You just bought the GPU at a nice time is all. The 7000 series are going through issues of their own now though.
Good for you bro. I say get what works for you. I picked up the XFX 6800 XT merc and i’m super happy about it. It’s crushing all of my games at ultra wide 1440p with no issues at all. Games and hardware nowadays are amazing.
I’ve got a 6800xt and have 0 issues. I upgraded from a 2080 super and I couldn’t be happier. Honestly my biggest fear was the drivers but I was so wrong. Drivers have always been stable for me and with it having 16GB of VRAM I don’t have to worry about it not being able to run things at good fps and while looking amazing
@@Strongholdex AMD has this feature where if you play a new game, it will read and adjusts it's drivers to the game for exactly 10 minutes until it stabilizes and then runs fine. But only the first time you play a new game and for ten minutes. It is a feature, not a bug.
@@D3nsity_ I would take this optimisation over the current Nvidia Driver Update BS that they are doing the past few months, been really shit compared to AMD's side
Nvidia fanboy I am. 4090 Asus tuff and care not how much it costs. Awesome drivers and great for emulators. Nvidia always been spotty on drivers. I regret zero. Would not use and if it was free.
I'm building a PC from scratch and the reason why I'm planning on getting a 4070 ti is because I also plan on doing productivity on my PC. Nvidia still does a better job than amd with that. The 4070 is also the most I want to spend on a GPU so stretching to a 4080 is out of the question. Also a lot of 30xx cards didn't budge in price so they are similarly priced to their 40xx counterpart here in Germany. Except the 3070/3070 ti but I want more than 8gb vram.
I would research that card before you buy... many are saying Nvidia has screwed that card up and it is a poor performance. Or maybe it was the 4060? Cant remember right now..but I would still reserach this. Cheers.
@@mishea13 the 4060s were the mistake, 4070 probably is the only one that is "worth it" since it's a 3080 with 12gb vram, dlss 3 and better power efficiency. Plus it's not that big as far as new GPUs go. The 4070ti is fantastic in performance but spending almost 1k for a GPU with 12gb of vram didn't sit well with me. In the end I just bit the bullet and got the 4080.
i was on the same boat back in December, i was trying to choose between a 3080 or 6900 xt both new, but then a sudden price drop happened on the 6950 xt leaving it at 670$. I ended up taking the risk with AMD i couldn't be happier, seeing all the sudden vram issues popping up with new releases, I'm so happy with my 16gb of vram plus since I still don't care for raytraycing, i got myself an absolute beast of rasterization performance.
@Thomas B I'm using my 10yo 750w Cooler Master PSU with the RX. Except for ray tracing theres no comparison in AMD's cost benefit I am really happy with my choice.
For professional video editing 4K and higher there is currently only the 4090 option due to 4080 having 16 GB VRAM. YT channel Tech Notice is covering topics for content creators. He did review the 7900 XTX and found that there have been significant improvements, but in certain effects used, it’s not there yet. He did review the 4070 ti as well… VRAM limitation. When it comes to blender rendering, Nvidia cards are better. But big studios more likely use Nvidia and AMD Pro Lines for those type of work. Big studios however have render server farms that can be utilized. Nvidia has the ADA 6000, which has 48 GB VRAM and sells for about 6’800 $. What AMD does better than Nvidia is one centralized application for everything whereby Nvidia has an outdated look, requires 2 applications plus and forces to sign up online. I’ve used myself the screen recording via AMD catalyst and it works very well. I don’t use OBC anymore, which initial setup isn’t most user friendly for people who use it the first time. A YT channel that used Nvidia historically tried AMD and was positively surprised concerning streaming and desktop recordings.
The only reason I upgraded past a 1080ti is VR. AMD didn't show up to play for like the first 4-5 years of VR existing. (CV1 & Index released during the GTX980 era.) So a lot of the older classics just work better on Team Green. Which, granted, is less of an issue with today's GPU hardware on yesteryear's VR titles. But for anything roomscale, I don't want a wire. And nVenc + Reflex (+Virtual Desktop) is basically uncontested for that use case. I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it, but AMD's OpenGL performance on Windows is also attrocious. It's not a big deal for me, only really making a difference when emulating PS2 titles, but if I was into PS3 emulation or Switch emulation (specifically the community that has sprung up around Breath of the Wild), I would be hard on Team Green's side for that reason.
I went for the 4070 after having the gtx 1080 for 5 years, I do creative work so most software relies on NVIDIAs cuda cores. Ngl, I think I made the right choice for the budget I have. AMD cards are great for gaming, but isnt that just it? just great for gaming?
Well CUDA and other proprietary stuff like G-Sync and DLSS are the reasons i refuse to buy Nvidia again (and i did for a long time since the Riva TNT). It's not like AMD cards would be bad at productivity apps, but Nvidia managed to stuff CUDA in that market and for what ever reason a lot of productivity apps refuse to provide OpenCL support. I want manufactures compete on good products not on locking out competition with proprietary features.
Open source is double edge sword. Just look what happen with OpenGL before. OpenGL end up being behind DirectX in development because OpenGL needs to satisfy everyone on the consortium. In fact Khronos end up separating Vulkan altogether from OpenGL to avoid the API being held back by professionals that want their open source API to conformant with their legacy stuff. OpenCL as a compute API will be more important in professional space. In this space time is money. So some IHV cannot let themselves held back by API development that being slowed down just because Khronos looking for a solution that can satisfy everyone. So intel end up going with their OneAPI, Apple with Metal and AMD with their ROCm.
I just recently upgraded from a GTX 1080 to an RX 6800xt, and I found that it was an incredibly smooth transition! I had considered buying an Nvidia card, but in my market, even a 3070ti was selling for more than a 6800xt, so I would have to be crazy to buy Nvidia. This thing is a beast and it's particularly strong against the older 1080 in the games I like to play the most right now(Forza Horizon 5, RDR2, Monster Hunter World). I'm not sure what the situation was like at launch, but I'm confident that anyone buying AMD right now would not have any issues. Honestly, I had way more driver issues with my old RTX 3060 laptop, so Nvidia definitely isn't perfect either
don't listen to these fanboys like who cares about a creator card AMD is for gamers Nvidia screws gamers over FACT and ray tracing is in the gimmicky stage and will be for good 10 years so once again AMD is really the only choice right now unless you're so rich you can buy anything but back to the real world were people have budgets it becomes so clear AMD GPUs are the clear choice here period
My last ATi/AMD GPU was Radeon HD 5870 that I bought back in 2009, just a month after its release -- it only reminds me how much more affordable was the high-end hardware back then. Anyway, two years later I got a really good deal for a used GTX570 by Palit only to end up with burned VRM due to faulty vapor chamber couple of years later (no more Palit for me), but I stuck with NV hardware for various reasons to this very day with my RTX4080 (which was the first brand new GPU since that Radeon 5870, btw), although for my needs I could have switched to AMD. We are all creatures of habit, I guess.
My last AMD card was the 7870 and it had 1 bad fan that allowed it to cook the GPU (before throttling was a thing) and it was funky so I had to upgrade as it was locking me up, plus doing weird stuff. I purchased a 1060 6GB and still using it, but now is the time in my upgrade cycle and these prices are insane. I do use CUDA, and I mean I use CUDA heavily for AI so I feel like I am Jensen's beoytch. I am leaning towards a 7900XTX, but rocm is not released to allow this gen to work. We need 5.5.0 while 5.4.3 is the last version released (a ton of pissed off people on their github). I wish I could find what are the numbers for training and for generating of a 6700xt (for instance) so I could then sort of know where a 7900XTX would fall, but no dice. I think the AMD stigma with no CUDA everyone is on Nvidia since everything just works hassle free with Nvidia for AI/ML like Stable Diffusion and Kohya trainer.
i can only speak for myself. the first pc i bought was a prebuilt with a 3080 in it from Micro Center before the crypto boom. It came with a 10900k and an rtx 3080. Great machine but then i wanted more because my monitor got better and bigger....Samsung g9 49 inch and the 3080 wasnt built likt that to run raytracing and evertything else i wanted too run on it. So now im at a 13700k with a 4080 and love it. but i said this to say in my opinion, AMD makes a great second choice for most. it is a tinkering card as where Nvida is just a work card. Nvida is like apple and Amd is like Android. I got my 7900 xtx and imedietly had to replace the thermoal paste because power color didnt do it right from the factory. great card once i repasted...but shouldnt have to. second....resale value. People will by an Nvida on resale vs an Amd card for there first card. not becasue it may be better or worse for them...but simply because of the myth around AMD, which i cant blame them when they are paying hard earned money for a card that may be still under warrenty or not..they just want a card that works.
i took a gamble on a couple of used "not working" 6800xt's recently, got them for $200 each and after ddu wiping all my drivers and installing the latest ones they are both working nicely with a slight undervolt to keep temps down a tad. the seller said that they would crash under load or stress testing which made me wonder if he was using older drivers or something. for $500 though brand new they still seem a bit pricey but thats the market lately.
@@adammartin4906 i plan to do that soon but i've been just running these cards to see if they run into crashing issues at all but so far they're chugging along nicely. I do plan to also replace the thermal pads once I crack them both open.
What are you even talking about. The Witcher 3 footage you showed was Day and Night (1 and 2 respectively) in regards to ray tracing. what is wrong with you.
When my RTX 4090 was in RMA process I bought 7900xtx and had crash after crash in all games After getting RTX 4090 back I have next to zero AMD drivers are an issue for over 12 years now. AMD needs to make sure their hardware is in spec, and then hone drivers, it can win against Nvidia in budget/higher budget market, but it won't if drivers/hardware is not addressed. I have AMD a shot by buying 2 7900xtxs, but both had same issues. I had same issues in 2013 with Radeon 7950 HD, I would have lot of instabilities
This is a pretty interesting topic and I feel like a lot of it has to do with feature economy. Nvidia products are highly driven by features (e.g. G-Sync, RT, DLSS, Reflex, NVENC etc.) and a wide range of industry support for productive use. While Nvidia is innovating and engineering new features AMD is trying to catch up most of the time and even if AMD follows up with their own implementation it's almost always slightly inferiour to Nvidia's implementation (image quality in DLSS vs. FSR, performance in RT, ...). For me, personally, this creates some kind of fear of missing out (FOMO): What if AMD's implementation is worse than Nvidia's in a new game or what if AMD's implementation is just not supported by this game? What if Nvidia invents a new feature that they make available for older cards as well (Nvidia hasn't in the past, but... what if they do the next time?)? And then there's also the fact that Nvidia is just better at working with/paying game devs to make them implement their "awesome new feature" (e.g. Reflex for competitive games). Maybe it sounds crazy, but these are the considerations that almost always drive me back into Nvidia's arms. I hate it and I would love to switch to AMD, but... there's always this "but, ..." that makes me hesitate and question whether AMD would be a good choice or not.
Seriously, it is about time for some tech youtuber to do a clear whole list/comparison about the set of features that you miss when you chose AMD or Nvidia. It would make waaaay easier to be safe switching from one brand to the other and it would promote the best brand with something more than "mere intuition" or just "fear of missing".
I’m in the same situation, I thought I wanted the ray tracing but i end up turning it off EVERY time on my 3080 10gb and now that i have hogwards legacy’s. It’s not even a question. It just simply Can’t run on ray tracing because it doesn’t have enough Vram i could have gone with a 6900XT instead because well in the end on the nvida side ray tracing is also not working so the nvidia tax wasn’t worth it
It's strange to hear you talk about "maybe AMD will gain marketshare" because they were one of the big 3 when I was a kid, and NVIDIA couldn't hold a candle to AMD's (ATi) video quality. Windows was visibly blurry with NVIDIA. Games too because their AF was bilinear or something. From my opinion, AMD is still a power house, but NVIDIA suddenly got the leg-up when I wasn't looking.
@@-Ice_Cold- and now they have competition from Intel. It's bad today, but next gen is where they can really shine. NVIDIA is running into die size issues.
Needed to replace my old gaming PC (i5 and 2 980s in sli). Went with the red team because of Micro Center bundle deal w/ Ryzen 9 and they had the 7900 xtx in stock ($999 retail). I have no complaints. I think the biggest thing is, I don't feel I over paid. Playing Overwatch, 1440p ultra at 500 + FPS.
I decided to get an RX 7900 XT over the RTX 4070 Ti despite the RTX 4070 Ti having better ray tracing performance and DLSS because I figured I would benefit more from the RX 7900 XT's 20 gigs of vram in future games.
San experience to share: Alwys had nvidia never had any issues. Got my first AMD yesterday and it was faulty. I amreturning it. Some game wont launch or have graphics issues. The games thaat ran were beautiful.
During the 770 era and 1070 era AMD was competitive in the mid range. If I remember correctly both 280x (which competed with the 770) and vega 56 (which competed with 1070) were more performant for less money.
I'm an AMD shill and switched from a 6900 XT last gen to a 4070Ti this gen. The 4070Ti is more stable than the 6900 XT was, and more importantly, where I shopped (Hong Kong) there is actually an AMD tax on the 7900 XT. Would have wanted to move on to the 7900 XT but I went cheaper to Nvidia and I'm OK with that.
My reason to go with Nvidia is Emulation. AMD made an effort for OpenGL, but still has a long way to go. I think it's a bit of a gray area to them since they make consoles' hardware, so they don't mess with emulation support much. It's a shame AMD won't even try on that front.
Your two raytracing comparisons are fortnite which uses RT no matter what, just a slightly higher quality, and Witcher which is renouned for it's poor implementation. Play control, try portal RTX, spiderman ps4, metro exodus, etc. Even my 2060s can use raytracing at 1440p 60 with a little tweaking. If it's a good implementation, it's well worth it.
I think I want to make the switch to AMD as well. I’ve had nothing but Nvidia on 4 different current rigs and been using them since my 650 Ti. It’s just that Nvidia isn’t enticing anymore, too much money what you get, especially with vram needs increasing.
I went from 1060 6gb to 3080 ti to now 4090, I just have no faith with amd. I worked with numerous amount of laptops and when it has graphic problem, 80% of the time its amd's gpu. From bluescreening with all oem/amd drivers, to ULPS bug where the laptop took so long to boot even though it is using ssd and the absent of amd gpu driver when it is paired with intel igpu because in the past amd refused to provide support for that configuration. Recently 5000 series ryzen cpu having bios issue where the battery can only charge up to 99%. Some oem already provided bios update while some still havent. There is more but these are the only thing that comes to mind.
My first gpu that I bought was a 1060 3GB. I didn’t know it was a bad GPU at the time, but it was dead on arrival anyway. I just decided to get a 580 and began becoming an AMD fan. It was probably the best outcome, tbh. I did try a 3070 as my temporary gpu until I got a 7900 xtx, but it wasn’t that impressive. I think Nvidia is overrated for gaming, and even on some productivity uses.
This sounds a lot like the Android vs iPhone argument. Specifically the people who always buy iPhones, because to them its a fashion accessory. They don't care about Android phones having great/better features and more innovation because what they want is to be seen with an Apple logo by their friends. It's all about fronting. nVidia is the iPhone of the GPU world and it'll be tough to crack that nut for AMD. But it's definitely not impossible, it's only been a few years that Intel had that coveted position in the CPU world, then Ryzen exploded unto the scene.
It was US$50 for you it was US$130 for me so I went with the 6800xt. Later on the price fell by a further $170 but the Nvidia only fell by another $70. So I do have a tiny bit of buyers remorse but not as much as if I went with Nvidia. I'm more than happy with it.
@Vex even vex will agree to this that today bashing Nvidia gets you views and some traction on YT but the reality is that 99% of this youtubers bashing NV for high prices are themselves using NV cards. People just don't understand that Nvidia operates in a free market and if they are charging high prices it encourages competition but if amd and intel can't make great products its not the fault of Nvidia, blind amd fanboys should stop what ever they are smoking and question AMDs incompetence rather than Nvidia. The truth is AMD only caught up to intel in CPUs because intel chip foundry's have fallen behind TSMC in advance manufacturing capabilities and unlike intel which uses its own manufacturing AMD uses TSMC. But with Nvidia there are no low hanging fruits for amd to eat because Nvidia has not been sitting on their laurels like intel, NV is a different beast and amd will have to make really good GPUs that can go head to head with NV in every metric or continue to loose market share and become irrelevant.
Developers want to use RT (aka path tracing) because it makes their job a billion times easier. The only issue we have right now is hardware related. RT is very important though, just as important as the shift to PBR textures which happened awhile back.
@@TheUAProdigy Are you under the illusion that every game has its engine being written from scratch with every new project? That 3rd party engine's don't exist? That level designers and the art team are all writing code in C++? C'mon now. On that note, go watch the interview Gordon gave over on PCWorld titled "First Details About Path Tracing In Cyberpunk 2077". Then follow the trail...
Amd 280x/290 r9 were way more competitive than770/780 they had better price and better FPS by little dislike from me for cap i not amd fanboy i just buy whats better for the buck i have rtx 3060 ti on my little brother pc and 6700xt on my correct pc for few reasons and we both had r9 290/280x back in the day they were better than 770/780 and my cousin had them
AMD fanboys are absolutely unbearable, apple fanboys are unpopular for blindly over paying but at least apple makes really good products, but here in the GPU space all amd does is shitt and put out products that are clearly inferior to NVidia but still these corporate suckers vouch for inferior products which is kind of weird to see. Nvidia GPUs are overpriced for sure but nobody can deny their technological lead from having good AI features to industry wide optimization for any software or workloads and not to forget the ML market where amd is completely non existent. amd cards are just good enough raster bricks but with NVidia my GPU can be so much more and because of that I don't mind paying a premium for Nvidia cards as it actually is overall a really good product in respect to what amd is offering.
And NVIDIA fanboys are in reality just salivating fangirls of Jensen, ones that like to be shafted in the face every generation, remember the 3.5GB disaster on the GTX 970? You guys like buying gimped cards that becomes obsolete two years later, good luck using RT with high textures in newer games with cards that has 8GB~12GB which are the majority of cards Jensen shits for you. RTX 4050 6GB when the RTX 3050 which was already a TURD had 8GB, RTX 4080 with only 16GB when AMD gave 16GB at 3070Ti (which has 8GB garbage) level on the RX 6800, both the 7900XT and the XTX has more VRAM than the RTX 4080, better yet was the RTX 3080 MSRP of $700 becomes $1200 on the RTX 4080 while AMD gives the 7900XTX at the SAME MSRP of the 6900XT ($1000) while having more 8GB of VRAM, you guys like to be shafted, it's so good.
Yeah I looked your channel... I can definitively see all the fantastic thing you produce with your magical device from Nvidia. I definitively can not do anything that impressive with my raster brick.
@@leucome ha ha ha Iam not a youtuber but i work in 3D animation and VFX industry. Here if Anybody even talks about Amd GPUs they either looses projects or job. You can stay with your below par raster brick and continue to have the Cool Aid drink.
You get all your info on gpu benchmark or something? 7900xt and 4070ti at least are practically 1:1 in performance/$. I kinda wish you were right, it would make it a lot easier lmao
amd is actually more expensive in my country cause nvidia cards are everywhere while amd cards are very hard to find.... no point going amd if they are more expensive
I have seen some guys complaining their pc wont boot with rx6600/6600xt/6700 on leddit and facebook. Their solution after tweeking bios settings blindly was switching to nvidia cards, and it bloody works. I always wanted to recommend good value stuff to my friends, but that problem was the deal breaker. It's not 100% , but it might happen, and my friends don't want to spend too much time troubleshooting. I still don't know what was wrong
I got an RTX 3080 10GB Version, and it runs every game perfectly fine on 1440p. And yes I play with all graphics options on the highest possible. If the games are not E-Sports relevant, then they will run at arround 60-80 FPS (even with Raytracing for the one which suppprt it) and that is totally ok for me. For example: Hogwarts Legacy - Ultra Settings with Raytracing on Balanced -> 60-70 FPS Cyberpunk 2077 - Ultra Settings with Raytracing (one below Psycho, dont know yet how its called) -> 70-80 FPS All other game I play run arround 90-120 (in some cases even more) This is the third Nvidia card for me (after GTX 750 TI und 1070 TI) and I dont even think about to buy AMD. Even if Tubers tell the people to think about buying AMD, I would never recommend cause from my friends which bought AMD, they STILL got a lot of issues with.
You asked for opinion so here is mine. I like to see your face, especially when you have deep and important thoughts. 70% face and 30% cool gameplay would be good for me. Keep rocking!
I'd love to buy an AMD GPU, but the performance hit from my 3080 to the 7900XTX is wayyy too large. Really just looking forward to the next generation at this point. Which according to their roadmap, should be next year. Either a revamp with the super version of the cards like the 20 series, or the 50 series releases. Maybe AMD will come out with a really good 7950 version that does really good in Blender.
I used AMD (formerly ATI) almost 100% since the late 90s but switched over to nvidia in the 1080 generation because AMD was just not keeping up. I skipped the 20 series, but then went Nvidia again in the 30 series because the AMD 6000 series were just not available, but downgraded to the 'midrange' 60TI after having been a high end buyer for decades as the pricing/segmentation were getting out of control. Now here in this generation both AMD and Nvidia have priced me out of the market and I decide that the best 'current generation' card is actually a used 3080. Good luck AMD and Nvidia, steam hardware survey shows that less than 3% of the market is running a 4k or higher resolution and VR is only 2% - almost nobody needs the high end anymore, and I'm not going to be paying $800 for a "midrange" card.
we both think the same bro. I like amd.The hardware is good but the software is so laid back. their FSR 3.0 is still in development and their ray tracing is not on par with nvidia.
One of the fears that is still kinda valid are drivers. Not fully supported and there are still some issues. Nvidia drivers is much more supported and some tools only support Nvidia rendering feature. For me also still Nivida unless AMD made drivers more stable.
Just sold my 6700XT and scored a Asus Strix LC Top 6900XT for $1100aud ($730usd), and slapped a $59aud EK block on it, and sold my 5800X and replaced it for a 5800X3D, and bought a bunch of heavily discounted water loop parts. For about the price of a 7900XTX, I got a 6900XT, 5800X3D and a waterloop..I think I'll be happy with this rig for a few years to come now, especially with FSR 2.2/3 and RT not really being worth it yet.
You need to keep a good balance of video and narrative input, not too long on the face and no excessive lingering on shots that are sometimes irrelevant.
DaVinci Resolve has been THE editing solution for AMD users for a couple of years now. Usually people go Nvidia for the better Premiere/ After Effects performance.
i have a half broken Radeon X800 GTO which i used for gaming until i was given away a pc with a Radeon HD 5750. the difference between the two but the quality of both the cards. when you read "AMD" on a gpu, you're literally getting something which won't ever die... at least that's my experience so far in more than 10 years of use
It's whatever your particular use case is. AMD has a history lagging anywhere from 6 months to 2 years behind NVidia in terms of features and even then, it's a lesser version that they have to opensouce to get people to adopt it. People seem to think AMD is their friend by charging less. It's more like they have too. Want cutting edge features, better day-one drivers and willing to pay the premium for it, NVidia has you covered. Want to max out performance to budget ratio, AMD is currently the way to go. It's that simple. Personally, I like RT and find real G-Sync noticeably better than Freesync. Even so the last GPU i bought was for my nephew and it was an Intel Arc 750...decent performance, steadily improving drivers and 500USD of productivity software and games. Intel even has feature parity with NVidia and then some. Why are they being left out of the discussion?
Yeah, why? Maybe for crappy drivers and hardware? And i doubt G-Sync is ''noticeably better'' than FreeSync. G-Sync is more expensive technology and FreeSync is more often adding in the Monitors. NVIDIA is for rich, who loves flaunt their expensive things
If you do get an AMD card for your system, remember to remove the Nvidia drivers preferably with DDU and put the correct AMD drivers on. Or you might run into weirdness.
Why people aren't switching to AMD is quite simple. They still charge too much for what you get, they try to pride themselves in not giving "gamers what they don't want", but also at the same time charge nearly the same as nvidia with less features. I would rather have tensor cores than not having them when the difference in price is so small.
My case i had to kept using Radeon since Freesync in NVIDIA doesnt work that well Especially if you go 60hz mod with Freeync being turned on it loses my monitor signal which doesnt happens in AMD
See, I did that and bought the leap to a 5700xt nitro+. I then had the black screen issues and spent the majority of my time following fixes people posted, none resolved it so I sent it back for a 2070 super.
The thing with AMD GPUs, their biggest edge is monetary value. They might not be the best of the best in terms or raw power, performance in work tasks or the accompanying technologies, but they bring the optimal balance between performance and cost, especially in lower-end segment. Look at 6600 vs 3050, 6700 vs 3060 or 3800 vs 3070, and the AMD cards will be the clear winners for their cost. 6700xt, 6800xt and to a lesser extent 6900 are also great cards that pack quite a punch, and the excess VRAM allows you to run things in bigger resolution and go for higher settings overall while Nvidia only starts going over 8gb of VRAM in 3080 price segment. But beyond that, of couse, the technological edge and the performance of the flagship GPUs is currently championed by Nvidia. They make great cards, but only if you have the money or need them for specific tasks optimized for nvidia hardware.
One my friend wanted to get RTX 4070 Ti but they are expensive, so i told him check RX 6800 XT and now in few days he is getting RX 6800 XT Sapphire Nitro SE...i am getting his RTX 2070 i hope that ill be fine for 1080p with 2070 and one other friend is getting my GTX 1060 6 GB. It was all talked about with us in one day and now all 3 are getting an upgrade very cool!
i got a 6800 xt because i got double the vram than a 3070, kinda insane tbf. vram is so important these days even for not awful ports like re4 or last of us, even harry potter profits massively of it
I've mostly used amd up until the rx480. I had huge problems with the drivers. I had to reformat my windows out of legacy and had to do a bunch of other things for it to post. After that I went Nvidia. But I may go back to amd graphics cards in the future. We'll see.
The reason you haven't seen much of an increase in davinci resolve support is because *propper* GPU acceleration requires you buy davinci for the full asking price. I experienced this when I first use davinci resolve!
damn, I just use premiere pro that I got 100% legally
@@khaledm.1476 I should try looking into getting davinci resolve paid totally legally
or it requires you to pirate it. lol. 1337 :D arghh matey.
@@JunkBondTradertoo old version
@@khaledm.1476that sound that you got it illegaly
The thing is I like gaming performance of AMD gpus but i also do animation where nvidia gpus comes in handy. Amd should also focous on creative work not only gaming. Nice vedio and good to hear your opinion on the topic 👍
3d animation or 2d?
@@jay_arson5075 i do 3d in blender and rt cores really help a loot in rendering
@@AnkitKumar-lq1oh Yup, even the base model 3060 will run laps around the 7900xtx when it comes to blender renders. In a sane world, that should never happen.
You know more about my wife's job than I do. She prefers nvidia for her work.
if the majority of people who use blender own an NVIDIA GPU, what’s the financial incentive for specifically optimizing for AMD and intel arc users? this is the main obstacle that AMD has to overcome - the developers of these productivity applications simply don’t care, and that’s why NVIDIA basically has a monopoly in that sense.
if fewer customers own an AMD GPU, there are less reasons to optimize for AMD, which leads to even less people buying AMD, which means there are even less reasons to optimize for AMD, etc. it’s the feedback loop that is killing the GPU market.
Gamers just want cheaper AMD GPUs so that they can get cheaper Nvidia cards. That's really all it is.
I bought a new 6700 XT last summer, just as the prices settled down after the crypto crash. Back then it cost the same as 3060 Ti (at least here, in Poland), and I went with the red team just because of the VRAM capacity.
Good choice.
Even better choice nowadays as the 6700 XT price undercuts the 3060 TI (at least in the UK and NL).
+ Better raster performance
+ More VRAM
+ Cheaper
- No CUDA acceleration (if you don't use programs that support it not really a con)
- Worse raytracing support (although in this class of GPU raytracing gimps performance so hard you don't want it enabled anyhow)
I had to pick between those two as well as that's within my budget and went for the 6700 XT - no regrets. It still entertains me that I can now play StarCraft 2 without the graphics card fans even spinning haha.
Who is laughing now... you are my friend...
Same, I built my first PC on January of this year, and I was in between the 3060 ti or the 6700XT, both were around the same price at the time of buying the components, $350 iirc, but since I really don't care about ray tracing and whatever Nvidia decides to focus on more with their gpus, I ended up going with the 6700XT, and boi do I love it, I can record and play games at the same time with no issues, the Adrenaline software helps a lot when I want to check my performance, and it gives me the option to record which comes in handy whenever I forget to open Outplayed (yes I use this to record my gameplay/highlights). I'm satisfied with the GPU and overall my PC
Just built my PC January of this year and really wanted to go with the 6700 XT but it was like 200 USD more than 3060 Ti. Ended up going with the 3060 Ti. Still would because the performance increase isn't really worth it in my opinion. Most games still use 8GB of VRAM and those that do go over it still give a smooth experience. Just shitty games like TLOU part 1 are unstable but thank God I didn't buy that and actually checked the reviews. Also gonna go with AMD if possible next time, Nvidia really did us dirty by giving the 3060 Ti and 3070 only 8GB of VRAM. At this point, everyone who sold their 2080 Ti for the 3070 are just gonna feel scammed.
Ray tracing has been the biggest marketing ploy of the last 10 years. It is barely functional in a majority of it's applications and the games that it does work well in are so few and far between it's just not worth the insane margins they are squeezing out of gamers with these 800-2000 dollar cards. All the development time that has gone into this technology could have been used to make rasterization even better but here we are struggling to get 60 fps in most games with RT.
Yea yeah... What ever helps you sleep at night mate
No matter how good rasterization is some lighting effect are difficult or even outright impossible to mimic.
I mean, nvidia doesn't ONLY have RTX to sweeten the deal. Include Reflex, DLSS, better drivers and software support (imo), and now a new addition, VSR, along with whatever they may have in the future, since new techs are constantly coming out now, and it becomes far more subjective. If u want those features, an extra 150 bucks on top of an already $1050 min card for all that is honestly p justifiable. This isn't to say it's all good value, this is to say that AMD has the same value issues with the gen of cards.
@@mitchelldittes2555 especially when you consider the bad power usage, vapour chambers, drivers bricking windows, people asking to swap their 7900 cards on marketplace, and the sales on the 4080 that bring the 4080 to the same price as the 7900xtx
We're still in the growing pains stage. RT is needed if we're going to push graphics further and further. RT is also so much easier for devs to use over rasterization, no more needing to pre bake lights after every build (which can take hours). This will give artists and designers more time to develop more interesting things rather than sitting idle waiting for the lights to bake. Once RT is the standard and hardware has caught up to where even a cheap laptop APU can run RT without issues it'll be fine.
Went from gtx970 to a750. Threw the 970 in an hp prebuilt and it’s an emulation and multimedia pc for the living room. I knew intel would be kinda iffy at first so I got the a750 to hold me over until battlemage.
Gl my dude, I’d love to try arc too
This me like! 👍
Respect for taking the risk on a shaky product like that. To be fair to Intel, they have come along way with the development and improvements of thier arc series.
Lol, what a DUMB decision.....
@@Max-fw3qy Found the nvidia fanboy.
I bought a 3060 Ti and I'm regretting the 8gb of vram for the price I paid. When AMD's 8000 series comes out I'm gonna switch over. Or if ARC Battlemage is really good I might try that as well. I've owned ATI/AMD cards before (9600, x700, 5870, 6990) and with Nvidia skimping VRAM I think it's high time I switched. We had 8gb back in 2015. Nvidia is just holding the market back just like Intel did with quad cores for a decade. I bought an AMD 2600, then the 5900x I have now because I was done with Intel. I'm also now DONE with Nvidia for a while.
RX 7600M XT only has 8GB VRAM. That means Navi 33 GPU only has a 128-bit memory controller. 7600 XT, which should have a similar performance as the 3060 Ti, will also have 8GB VRAM. So there is no need to regret it. Do you remember AMD deleted their comments that VRAM is important in the 5500 XT advertisement and released the 64-bit 4GB 6500 XT? AMD doesn't care about VRAM. 7900 XTX and 7900 XT should compete with 4090 and 4080 so they have 24 and 20GB VRAM. But RDNA 3 is too slow to compete with Ada. AMD can only lower the price to 4070 level to sell them. That's where the VRAM advantage in AMD comes in.
What those also have 8gb 😅
I would be tempted by battlemage as well, but drivers may steer me away.
Why would you be unhappy with 8Gb of VRAM on a 60 series card? Not like you're going to have the performance to play 4K AAA with it anyway even if you had the VRAM.
I do agree that Nvidia is a bitch and should really put more VRAM in their GPU, especially 70 and 80 series, but let's be real, it doesn't make any difference in your specific case
Ye I am not going intel till atleast Celestial because their drivers won't be as fully stable yet. If I rate AMD/Nvidia they're like an 9/10 stability while intel seems like a 3/10 even if it jumps to a 6/10 that's still alot lower.
The problem is AMD isn't super competitive, like Vex said they're just matching nvidia. If you're matching nvidia and I am used to nvidia why would I switch to you? Give me a valid reason AMD: be super aggressive on pricing, create brand new technologies instead of following nvidia's lead, do something cool for once
I recently bought an RX 5700XT used for £150/$185 after being only on Nvidia cards exclusively for around 9 years, upgrading from my aging 980 Ti, and I'm glad I did upgrade. This thing is a beast and can actually play halo infinite at good fps unlike the 980 ti.
Neat, one of my buddy got em for 125$ for one, no box tho
That is a screaming deal.
5700 XT is $100 in Hong Kong now. It is a good deal. But I think 1080 Ti is better. It has 3GB more VRAM than 5700 XT. VRAM has been a big problem for games now.
@@simon6658 no it does not. LOL
@@3s0t3r1c Then buy the 4GB 6500 XT and 8GB 3070😅.
I brought AMD for the first time in years, because the potential for overclocking the 6800XT well above its pay grade looked great, I had heard all the AMD driver issues n problems and noticed most had workarounds etc(being a tinkerer none of this bothered me, so figured why not).
got it, overclocked it, was not disapointed in the overclock at all(it performs better than anything I could have afforded nvidia side by a HUGE margin), but the first two weeks were a nightmare of working out crashes n bugs n issues, that everyone put down to driver issues, and had various work arounds for, such as turning off hybrid hibernate etc etc.
turns out none of issues it had were driver issues at all, they could be reduced or removed by driver tweaks and software workarounds...but that only got rid of the symptoms not the actual problem.
turns out the problem all along was the displayport cable quality/spec...cables that come with most monitors are version 1.2, and don't actually meet the 1.2 spec, on top of this, most cables you can buy don't actually meet the spec they were rated at.(unless you find a VESA certified cable)
why is this a problem? refresh rate lock, if you have an out of spec cable, it can have problems locking to the refreshrate of your monitor correctly, it will lock to a random refreshrate such as 15hz even tho windows is showing 144hz, or it will fluctuate between certain points, 100hz-148hz for example.
it also caused problems such as the screen being black after a shutdown(windows 11 by default does a hybrid sleep mode instead of an actual shutdown) and on wakeup if the cable unstableness caused an issue, you got a black screen OR stuttering on the desktop after "cold" boot when it had been off for awhile, and the only fix was a reboot, and if you forced a game while it was in this state before restarting, it would usually crash.
how did I test and find this out? accidentally while checking my monitor for ghosting.
using the UFO ghosting test site, it has a refresh rate indicator at the bottom.
what does not having a stable refresh rate do? it causes random black screens, random game crashes, stutters and other issues.
a new VESA certified 1.4a cable fixed all of these issues.
the only two issues it didn't fix were video stuttering on a second monitor while playing a game on the primary high refreshrate monitor, and using AMD live recording with HEVC(both of these were known issues listed in the drivers, and got fixed in later driver versions)
I can confirm this, when i bought my 6900XT i also acquired an good quality HDMI cable, but some time ago i had to use an random poor quality cable for a week because reasons, that was when i faced my first problems with the card, which i had none up to that point.
I always bought nvidia, but I bought a RX 6600 a while agora and had a BUNCH of bugs, crashes and stuff. I know there's workarounds and all, but fuck it, i bought a card and have to fix it before using it? Hell no. Sold it and bought another NVIDIA one. AMD never again.
@@ricaeldocarmo5005 típico batata que devia comprar um console ao invés de um PC.
i feel like many people that complain about AMD “driver problems” tend to have a DP/HDMI cable that isn’t good, which leads to screen flickering and sometimes the screen turning black completely due to insufficient bandwidth through the cable in question. maybe not the majority of users who experience “driver problems” but i feel like some people just automatically blame AMD and blame the GPU itself because they don’t know what else could be wrong. it sucks that buying the right cable can be confusing but that’s just the way it is i guess. nothing is perfect.
@@RafitoOoO Nah people just wanna play a game on high fps and not fuck around with badly optimised hardwares
Davinci Resolve free version doesn't come with full CPU and GPU encoder/decoder support. You need the studio version for full Hardware acceleration. It's not a problem of the nvidia drivers.
For me software wise I was having issues with my RX 6900 XT. In my situation I have three monitor, one of which is an ultra wide and the other 240hz (the third monitor was for Spotify/Discord). For some reason my graphics card acted weird and glitchy from time to time. I tried different sets of cables, reinstalled windows and upgrade to a top of the line SSD. Nothing solved this so I ended up gettint rid of it. Ended up buying an RTX 4070 TI and haven't had issues. Maybe I got unlucky with my AMD card. These days I just tell people to buy whatever works for them.
Don't forget to use something like DDU to completely uninstall your drivers before installing your new drivers, even if you're still on the same Nvidia or AMD side, as it can still cause problems.
Be careful if you're like me and don't know anything about DDU, I deleted everything even my motherboard drives and it took a while to get everything right again.
I usually format drive when i get a new gpu or even a cpu. I don't really keep anything on it anyway that i cannot download.
I also use DaVinci and Premier with a 6900XT and it works very well. Steve from HUB also uses a 6900XT in his main machine with Premier. On the topic of what games I play it's very similar to you, Overwatch and some indie games. It's been great at throwing out frames with my 360hz monitor.
I hope people keep buying Nvidia instead so AMD prices have to keep dropping.
i would love to have a AMD card - but i have to admit, Nvidia GPUs have simply better and reliable support for applications. Thats also the reason why i would stay with the green ones, although the AMD cards have more bang for the buck. They need to catch up. 6800 XT would be a great pick - but besides its out of my possibilites to buy them atm - AMD is just not very good at Blender Rendering and the company does not have a history of continous support for such applications.
That's such a load of crap... reliable my ass... My EVGA 1080 FTW was RMA twice in 10 months. I sold the third sample to a sucker like you that drink the coolaid...
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blender rendering? just switching to linux you half your rendering time
Ball Caps are not to hide your hair, or lack of it. For those of us that are follicley challenged, it keep you warmer in the winter, and from having sunburn in the summer.
The driver issues with AMD these days just turn me off team red completely. I tried a 7900xt because of Vram and it was just a complete mess. I will rather pay more for an Nvidia GPU that I know will do the job without technical issues. It's plug-in-play and that is important at such prices
Can you provide more details about the driver issues you had? Specific examples?
last time i had any AMD driver issues was in 2020 with the 5600xt... i've had the 6900xt, 6800xt twice, multiple 6700xts, 7800xt, not a single problem
not a single driver problem, it's probably not the drivers....
@@tomtemple69 Check the AMDhelp subreddit one time and you'll realize how many are still having problems
Actually Driver issue was huge for me. Used 6800XT for 3 months with all other parts brand new incl. 13600K CPU. All steam games were doing fine, it's just that it had issues with online games, precisely with Riot games which I play the most. It had random freezes and crashes and frame dropping. After looking it up, it was a common issue in the Korean computing community as well as a lot of forum post at reddit too. Lost ark is an another game that had the same issue while I was looking up.
Fed up with the crashes and lags, so I jumped ship to 4070ti by selling 6800XT with 40% lost value, but the best decision I made imo...
On paper YES that AMD has much better cost value, but practically it is what it is and there is a reason why they have such reputation..
I wouldn't say they have a reputation for bad drivers or at least not anymore it's not how it was like 5-10yrs ago but now most of the time drivers are good and age pretty good and if there is a bad driver they at least acknowledge it and nvidia also has bad drivers literally most recent issues were high gpu/cpu usage when idle and then the Diablo 4 beta blowing up nvidia gpus
Yes MMO genre is one that AMD have ignored for a very long time.
@@Clashy69 I was referring to my personal experiences and there were alot of people sharing the issue and this was this year.. and the ppl who shared the issue all within 2years period. My prob was immeadiately fixed when I switched to nvidia. So I can only judge from what I've seen.
Radeon did work like a charm on Hogwarts Legacy and RDP2 but it just sucks with games that constantly updates like league. It is what it is mate.. I used both. Dont care what fanboys say
@꺼뉴TV not a fanboy just stating the facts both got their pros and cons and is just a preference now
I tried a 6650xt myself and had driver issues w it as well. The moment I switched back no more issues. Like you I tried and won't try again. I returned it and I bought a used 4080strix 4 1100. I'm looking forward to trying an Intel gpu. I wanna see how battlemage does.
I currently have a GeForce GTX 1080 TI. It's a solid performer still, but I am looking at what options there will be for upgrading. I'm likely going to be looking at the next generations of cards. Hopefully the cost comes back down to earth a bit. NVidia has been anti-consumer for a while. Their actions have me wanting to move away from their gpus. Intel was a little disappointing. Looks like the hype for their next generation is starting to bubble up. Most of my decision on what card to go with will come down to what everything costs and their respective performance. I don't give a rat's azz about ray tracing so NVidia has no advantage with me.
I think buying Nvidia card right now is like paying extra just for Ray-Tracing and CUDA. I have been using Nvidia cards for years and I have been happy with them but with the current prices AMD just gives much better deal. I live in Poland and RTX 4080 is about 20% more expensive than RX 7900 XTX here at the moment and prices didn't change much in the last few weeks. Raster performance is roughly the same on those 2 cards. Paying 20% extra for ray-tracing and CUDA seems like a bad deal. Its not like RX 7900 XTX can't do ray-tracing either. I've seen benchmarks that show that its RT performance is still above RTX 3090 in most games. Performance in productivity apps varies but in some AMD wins and in others Nvidia is better so its very case by case thing.
New technologies are bound to improve and make it easier to run.
Hating on RT and DSLL is just following a hivemind.
I think nvidia is just taking a different path than amd and it's not yet worth getting for performance.
Video game devs are lost cause tho can't defend them not finishing their games lol.
And i regret buying amd lmao.. lots of problem with my rx 6800 xt drivers ... can be mine but ive seen lots of problems like mine on reddit
They all say problems with drivers, but none says the problem. Both cards have driver issues, for Nvidia the update is much smoother while amd is not. If you don’t do it properly you end up having problems. Nvidia really sucks, no vram, overpriced. Only 4090 is better the rest of the cards sucks.
As a blender user, I can't recommend enough for Nvidia GPU. Even if I get AMD at half the price of similar performing Nvidia, I'd still get Nvidia. AMD is way out of league in 3d production.
Used 1060 6GB since 2017 and this year upgraded to new 6800 XT (wanted to be safe and have warranty). Been using it for more than a month now and haven't encountered any major problems. Little nitpicks here and there, but nothing so serious that I consider returning it.
I mean, the pretty much fixed all the issues. AMD takes like 2 or so years to fix their drivers on the cards. Look at the 6700 XT for example, it used to go toe to toe against the 3060 Ti but can now surpass the 3070 in raw performance (Not being VRAM limited) in every game. You just bought the GPU at a nice time is all. The 7000 series are going through issues of their own now though.
Good for you bro. I say get what works for you. I picked up the XFX 6800 XT merc and i’m super happy about it. It’s crushing all of my games at ultra wide 1440p with no issues at all. Games and hardware nowadays are amazing.
I’ve got a 6800xt and have 0 issues. I upgraded from a 2080 super and I couldn’t be happier. Honestly my biggest fear was the drivers but I was so wrong. Drivers have always been stable for me and with it having 16GB of VRAM I don’t have to worry about it not being able to run things at good fps and while looking amazing
Do you have stutters when you play a game in its first Minutes?
@@Strongholdex AMD has this feature where if you play a new game, it will read and adjusts it's drivers to the game for exactly 10 minutes until it stabilizes and then runs fine. But only the first time you play a new game and for ten minutes. It is a feature, not a bug.
The 2080 Super is just as good as the 6800xt if you use DLSS Quality...
@@bmwofboganville456so and 6800xt use FSR? Huh?
@@D3nsity_ I would take this optimisation over the current Nvidia Driver Update BS that they are doing the past few months, been really shit compared to AMD's side
Nvidia fanboy I am. 4090 Asus tuff and care not how much it costs. Awesome drivers and great for emulators. Nvidia always been spotty on drivers. I regret zero. Would not use and if it was free.
I'm building a PC from scratch and the reason why I'm planning on getting a 4070 ti is because I also plan on doing productivity on my PC. Nvidia still does a better job than amd with that.
The 4070 is also the most I want to spend on a GPU so stretching to a 4080 is out of the question. Also a lot of 30xx cards didn't budge in price so they are similarly priced to their 40xx counterpart here in Germany. Except the 3070/3070 ti but I want more than 8gb vram.
I would research that card before you buy... many are saying Nvidia has screwed that card up and it is a poor performance. Or maybe it was the 4060? Cant remember right now..but I would still reserach this. Cheers.
@@mishea13 the 4060s were the mistake, 4070 probably is the only one that is "worth it" since it's a 3080 with 12gb vram, dlss 3 and better power efficiency. Plus it's not that big as far as new GPUs go.
The 4070ti is fantastic in performance but spending almost 1k for a GPU with 12gb of vram didn't sit well with me. In the end I just bit the bullet and got the 4080.
No. You:
bought Nvidia > Find reasons to defend your choice
not
Find reasons to chose Nvidia > Chose Nvidia
Its cute how AMD sponsored creators are pissing on their audience face, and the audience is like "oh what a refreshing rain".
I swapped from a 3080ti to a 6950xt and it’s insane how much better it is for gaming, im getting 200+ fps on 1440p in mw2 and 300+ on apex
i was on the same boat back in December, i was trying to choose between a 3080 or 6900 xt both new, but then a sudden price drop happened on the 6950 xt leaving it at 670$. I ended up taking the risk with AMD i couldn't be happier, seeing all the sudden vram issues popping up with new releases, I'm so happy with my 16gb of vram plus since I still don't care for raytraycing, i got myself an absolute beast of rasterization performance.
Nvidia's 8gb cards won't last as long as AMD's 12gb ones. Not everyone is able to upgrade on a frequent basis. I've made the same choice as you did.
@Thomas B I'm using my 10yo 750w Cooler Master PSU with the RX. Except for ray tracing theres no comparison in AMD's cost benefit I am really happy with my choice.
For professional video editing 4K and higher there is currently only the 4090 option due to 4080 having 16 GB VRAM. YT channel Tech Notice is covering topics for content creators. He did review the 7900 XTX and found that there have been significant improvements, but in certain effects used, it’s not there yet. He did review the 4070 ti as well… VRAM limitation.
When it comes to blender rendering, Nvidia cards are better. But big studios more likely use Nvidia and AMD Pro Lines for those type of work. Big studios however have render server farms that can be utilized. Nvidia has the ADA 6000, which has 48 GB VRAM and sells for about 6’800 $.
What AMD does better than Nvidia is one centralized application for everything whereby Nvidia has an outdated look, requires 2 applications plus and forces to sign up online. I’ve used myself the screen recording via AMD catalyst and it works very well. I don’t use OBC anymore, which initial setup isn’t most user friendly for people who use it the first time. A YT channel that used Nvidia historically tried AMD and was positively surprised concerning streaming and desktop recordings.
The only reason I upgraded past a 1080ti is VR.
AMD didn't show up to play for like the first 4-5 years of VR existing. (CV1 & Index released during the GTX980 era.) So a lot of the older classics just work better on Team Green. Which, granted, is less of an issue with today's GPU hardware on yesteryear's VR titles. But for anything roomscale, I don't want a wire. And nVenc + Reflex (+Virtual Desktop) is basically uncontested for that use case.
I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it, but AMD's OpenGL performance on Windows is also attrocious. It's not a big deal for me, only really making a difference when emulating PS2 titles, but if I was into PS3 emulation or Switch emulation (specifically the community that has sprung up around Breath of the Wild), I would be hard on Team Green's side for that reason.
I went for the 4070 after having the gtx 1080 for 5 years, I do creative work so most software relies on NVIDIAs cuda cores. Ngl, I think I made the right choice for the budget I have. AMD cards are great for gaming, but isnt that just it? just great for gaming?
Well CUDA and other proprietary stuff like G-Sync and DLSS are the reasons i refuse to buy Nvidia again (and i did for a long time since the Riva TNT). It's not like AMD cards would be bad at productivity apps, but Nvidia managed to stuff CUDA in that market and for what ever reason a lot of productivity apps refuse to provide OpenCL support.
I want manufactures compete on good products not on locking out competition with proprietary features.
Open source is double edge sword. Just look what happen with OpenGL before. OpenGL end up being behind DirectX in development because OpenGL needs to satisfy everyone on the consortium. In fact Khronos end up separating Vulkan altogether from OpenGL to avoid the API being held back by professionals that want their open source API to conformant with their legacy stuff. OpenCL as a compute API will be more important in professional space. In this space time is money. So some IHV cannot let themselves held back by API development that being slowed down just because Khronos looking for a solution that can satisfy everyone. So intel end up going with their OneAPI, Apple with Metal and AMD with their ROCm.
if you like old games before 2010 or direct x9 dont take the risk of buying radeon gpu
I just recently upgraded from a GTX 1080 to an RX 6800xt, and I found that it was an incredibly smooth transition! I had considered buying an Nvidia card, but in my market, even a 3070ti was selling for more than a 6800xt, so I would have to be crazy to buy Nvidia. This thing is a beast and it's particularly strong against the older 1080 in the games I like to play the most right now(Forza Horizon 5, RDR2, Monster Hunter World). I'm not sure what the situation was like at launch, but I'm confident that anyone buying AMD right now would not have any issues. Honestly, I had way more driver issues with my old RTX 3060 laptop, so Nvidia definitely isn't perfect either
don't listen to these fanboys like who cares about a creator card AMD is for gamers Nvidia screws gamers over FACT and ray tracing is in the gimmicky stage and will be for good 10 years so once again AMD is really the only choice right now unless you're so rich you can buy anything but back to the real world were people have budgets it becomes so clear AMD GPUs are the clear choice here period
i no enjoi but i proud u try youre best youre branes
My last ATi/AMD GPU was Radeon HD 5870 that I bought back in 2009, just a month after its release -- it only reminds me how much more affordable was the high-end hardware back then. Anyway, two years later I got a really good deal for a used GTX570 by Palit only to end up with burned VRM due to faulty vapor chamber couple of years later (no more Palit for me), but I stuck with NV hardware for various reasons to this very day with my RTX4080 (which was the first brand new GPU since that Radeon 5870, btw), although for my needs I could have switched to AMD. We are all creatures of habit, I guess.
My last AMD card was the 7870 and it had 1 bad fan that allowed it to cook the GPU (before throttling was a thing) and it was funky so I had to upgrade as it was locking me up, plus doing weird stuff. I purchased a 1060 6GB and still using it, but now is the time in my upgrade cycle and these prices are insane. I do use CUDA, and I mean I use CUDA heavily for AI so I feel like I am Jensen's beoytch. I am leaning towards a 7900XTX, but rocm is not released to allow this gen to work. We need 5.5.0 while 5.4.3 is the last version released (a ton of pissed off people on their github). I wish I could find what are the numbers for training and for generating of a 6700xt (for instance) so I could then sort of know where a 7900XTX would fall, but no dice. I think the AMD stigma with no CUDA everyone is on Nvidia since everything just works hassle free with Nvidia for AI/ML like Stable Diffusion and Kohya trainer.
i can only speak for myself. the first pc i bought was a prebuilt with a 3080 in it from Micro Center before the crypto boom. It came with a 10900k and an rtx 3080. Great machine but then i wanted more because my monitor got better and bigger....Samsung g9 49 inch and the 3080 wasnt built likt that to run raytracing and evertything else i wanted too run on it. So now im at a 13700k with a 4080 and love it. but i said this to say in my opinion, AMD makes a great second choice for most. it is a tinkering card as where Nvida is just a work card. Nvida is like apple and Amd is like Android. I got my 7900 xtx and imedietly had to replace the thermoal paste because power color didnt do it right from the factory. great card once i repasted...but shouldnt have to. second....resale value. People will by an Nvida on resale vs an Amd card for there first card. not becasue it may be better or worse for them...but simply because of the myth around AMD, which i cant blame them when they are paying hard earned money for a card that may be still under warrenty or not..they just want a card that works.
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my man why you want bobs and vagana in a fuckin' tech channel comment section lmao
i took a gamble on a couple of used "not working" 6800xt's recently, got them for $200 each and after ddu wiping all my drivers and installing the latest ones they are both working nicely with a slight undervolt to keep temps down a tad. the seller said that they would crash under load or stress testing which made me wonder if he was using older drivers or something. for $500 though brand new they still seem a bit pricey but thats the market lately.
they need the thermal paste replaced...common issue on Radeons
@@adammartin4906 i plan to do that soon but i've been just running these cards to see if they run into crashing issues at all but so far they're chugging along nicely. I do plan to also replace the thermal pads once I crack them both open.
What are you even talking about. The Witcher 3 footage you showed was Day and Night (1 and 2 respectively) in regards to ray tracing. what is wrong with you.
When my RTX 4090 was in RMA process I bought 7900xtx and had crash after crash in all games
After getting RTX 4090 back I have next to zero
AMD drivers are an issue for over 12 years now. AMD needs to make sure their hardware is in spec, and then hone drivers, it can win against Nvidia in budget/higher budget market, but it won't if drivers/hardware is not addressed.
I have AMD a shot by buying 2 7900xtxs, but both had same issues.
I had same issues in 2013 with Radeon 7950 HD, I would have lot of instabilities
This is a pretty interesting topic and I feel like a lot of it has to do with feature economy. Nvidia products are highly driven by features (e.g. G-Sync, RT, DLSS, Reflex, NVENC etc.) and a wide range of industry support for productive use. While Nvidia is innovating and engineering new features AMD is trying to catch up most of the time and even if AMD follows up with their own implementation it's almost always slightly inferiour to Nvidia's implementation (image quality in DLSS vs. FSR, performance in RT, ...).
For me, personally, this creates some kind of fear of missing out (FOMO): What if AMD's implementation is worse than Nvidia's in a new game or what if AMD's implementation is just not supported by this game? What if Nvidia invents a new feature that they make available for older cards as well (Nvidia hasn't in the past, but... what if they do the next time?)? And then there's also the fact that Nvidia is just better at working with/paying game devs to make them implement their "awesome new feature" (e.g. Reflex for competitive games). Maybe it sounds crazy, but these are the considerations that almost always drive me back into Nvidia's arms. I hate it and I would love to switch to AMD, but... there's always this "but, ..." that makes me hesitate and question whether AMD would be a good choice or not.
Seriously, it is about time for some tech youtuber to do a clear whole list/comparison about the set of features that you miss when you chose AMD or Nvidia. It would make waaaay easier to be safe switching from one brand to the other and it would promote the best brand with something more than "mere intuition" or just "fear of missing".
I’m in the same situation, I thought I wanted the ray tracing but i end up turning it off EVERY time on my 3080 10gb and now that i have hogwards legacy’s. It’s not even a question. It just simply Can’t run on ray tracing because it doesn’t have enough Vram i could have gone with a 6900XT instead because well in the end on the nvida side ray tracing is also not working so the nvidia tax wasn’t worth it
It's strange to hear you talk about "maybe AMD will gain marketshare" because they were one of the big 3 when I was a kid, and NVIDIA couldn't hold a candle to AMD's (ATi) video quality. Windows was visibly blurry with NVIDIA. Games too because their AF was bilinear or something. From my opinion, AMD is still a power house, but NVIDIA suddenly got the leg-up when I wasn't looking.
more like that bought a bunch of devs
AMD can't gain market share, when everybody is buying NVIDIA cards
@@-Ice_Cold- and now they have competition from Intel. It's bad today, but next gen is where they can really shine. NVIDIA is running into die size issues.
Needed to replace my old gaming PC (i5 and 2 980s in sli). Went with the red team because of Micro Center bundle deal w/ Ryzen 9 and they had the 7900 xtx in stock ($999 retail). I have no complaints. I think the biggest thing is, I don't feel I over paid. Playing Overwatch, 1440p ultra at 500 + FPS.
I decided to get an RX 7900 XT over the RTX 4070 Ti despite the RTX 4070 Ti having better ray tracing performance and DLSS because I figured I would benefit more from the RX 7900 XT's 20 gigs of vram in future games.
And FSR 3.0 will come out this year
San experience to share: Alwys had nvidia never had any issues. Got my first AMD yesterday and it was faulty. I amreturning it. Some game wont launch or have graphics issues. The games thaat ran were beautiful.
During the 770 era and 1070 era AMD was competitive in the mid range. If I remember correctly both 280x (which competed with the 770) and vega 56 (which competed with 1070) were more performant for less money.
I'm an AMD shill and switched from a 6900 XT last gen to a 4070Ti this gen.
The 4070Ti is more stable than the 6900 XT was, and more importantly, where I shopped (Hong Kong) there is actually an AMD tax on the 7900 XT.
Would have wanted to move on to the 7900 XT but I went cheaper to Nvidia and I'm OK with that.
My reason to go with Nvidia is Emulation. AMD made an effort for OpenGL, but still has a long way to go. I think it's a bit of a gray area to them since they make consoles' hardware, so they don't mess with emulation support much. It's a shame AMD won't even try on that front.
What are you even using OpenGL in emulation? XEMU? Citra? Meh.
And OpenGL AMD's performance is now great.
Your two raytracing comparisons are fortnite which uses RT no matter what, just a slightly higher quality, and Witcher which is renouned for it's poor implementation.
Play control, try portal RTX, spiderman ps4, metro exodus, etc. Even my 2060s can use raytracing at 1440p 60 with a little tweaking. If it's a good implementation, it's well worth it.
I think I want to make the switch to AMD as well. I’ve had nothing but Nvidia on 4 different current rigs and been using them since my 650 Ti. It’s just that Nvidia isn’t enticing anymore, too much money what you get, especially with vram needs increasing.
Yeah, the vram thing is one of the biggest things to consider. Looking at the leaks, nvidia is not going to give good amounts of vram
Lol, yeah right. Suuuure.
I went from 1060 6gb to 3080 ti to now 4090, I just have no faith with amd. I worked with numerous amount of laptops and when it has graphic problem, 80% of the time its amd's gpu. From bluescreening with all oem/amd drivers, to ULPS bug where the laptop took so long to boot even though it is using ssd and the absent of amd gpu driver when it is paired with intel igpu because in the past amd refused to provide support for that configuration. Recently 5000 series ryzen cpu having bios issue where the battery can only charge up to 99%. Some oem already provided bios update while some still havent. There is more but these are the only thing that comes to mind.
My first gpu that I bought was a 1060 3GB. I didn’t know it was a bad GPU at the time, but it was dead on arrival anyway. I just decided to get a 580 and began becoming an AMD fan. It was probably the best outcome, tbh. I did try a 3070 as my temporary gpu until I got a 7900 xtx, but it wasn’t that impressive. I think Nvidia is overrated for gaming, and even on some productivity uses.
I agree, my RX 580 8GB is rocking, when at the same price i could afford only 1650
This sounds a lot like the Android vs iPhone argument. Specifically the people who always buy iPhones, because to them its a fashion accessory. They don't care about Android phones having great/better features and more innovation because what they want is to be seen with an Apple logo by their friends. It's all about fronting. nVidia is the iPhone of the GPU world and it'll be tough to crack that nut for AMD. But it's definitely not impossible, it's only been a few years that Intel had that coveted position in the CPU world, then Ryzen exploded unto the scene.
It was US$50 for you it was US$130 for me so I went with the 6800xt. Later on the price fell by a further $170 but the Nvidia only fell by another $70.
So I do have a tiny bit of buyers remorse but not as much as if I went with Nvidia.
I'm more than happy with it.
@Vex even vex will agree to this that today bashing Nvidia gets you views and some traction on YT but the reality is that 99% of this youtubers bashing NV for high prices are themselves using NV cards. People just don't understand that Nvidia operates in a free market and if they are charging high prices it encourages competition but if amd and intel can't make great products its not the fault of Nvidia, blind amd fanboys should stop what ever they are smoking and question AMDs incompetence rather than Nvidia. The truth is AMD only caught up to intel in CPUs because intel chip foundry's have fallen behind TSMC in advance manufacturing capabilities and unlike intel which uses its own manufacturing AMD uses TSMC. But with Nvidia there are no low hanging fruits for amd to eat because Nvidia has not been sitting on their laurels like intel, NV is a different beast and amd will have to make really good GPUs that can go head to head with NV in every metric or continue to loose market share and become irrelevant.
Developers want to use RT (aka path tracing) because it makes their job a billion times easier. The only issue we have right now is hardware related. RT is very important though, just as important as the shift to PBR textures which happened awhile back.
It does not make our job easier at all. Have you ever coded anything in c?
@@TheUAProdigy Are you under the illusion that every game has its engine being written from scratch with every new project? That 3rd party engine's don't exist? That level designers and the art team are all writing code in C++?
C'mon now.
On that note, go watch the interview Gordon gave over on PCWorld titled "First Details About Path Tracing In Cyberpunk 2077".
Then follow the trail...
Amd 280x/290 r9 were way more competitive than770/780 they had better price and better FPS by little dislike from me for cap i not amd fanboy i just buy whats better for the buck i have rtx 3060 ti on my little brother pc and 6700xt on my correct pc for few reasons and we both had r9 290/280x back in the day they were better than 770/780 and my cousin had them
AMD fanboys are absolutely unbearable, apple fanboys are unpopular for blindly over paying but at least apple makes really good products, but here in the GPU space all amd does is shitt and put out products that are clearly inferior to NVidia but still these corporate suckers vouch for inferior products which is kind of weird to see. Nvidia GPUs are overpriced for sure but nobody can deny their technological lead from having good AI features to industry wide optimization for any software or workloads and not to forget the ML market where amd is completely non existent. amd cards are just good enough raster bricks but with NVidia my GPU can be so much more and because of that I don't mind paying a premium for Nvidia cards as it actually is overall a really good product in respect to what amd is offering.
And NVIDIA fanboys are in reality just salivating fangirls of Jensen, ones that like to be shafted in the face every generation, remember the 3.5GB disaster on the GTX 970? You guys like buying gimped cards that becomes obsolete two years later, good luck using RT with high textures in newer games with cards that has 8GB~12GB which are the majority of cards Jensen shits for you.
RTX 4050 6GB when the RTX 3050 which was already a TURD had 8GB, RTX 4080 with only 16GB when AMD gave 16GB at 3070Ti (which has 8GB garbage) level on the RX 6800, both the 7900XT and the XTX has more VRAM than the RTX 4080, better yet was the RTX 3080 MSRP of $700 becomes $1200 on the RTX 4080 while AMD gives the 7900XTX at the SAME MSRP of the 6900XT ($1000) while having more 8GB of VRAM, you guys like to be shafted, it's so good.
The irony of this comment is unbearable 😂
Yeah I looked your channel... I can definitively see all the fantastic thing you produce with your magical device from Nvidia. I definitively can not do anything that impressive with my raster brick.
@@leucome ha ha ha Iam not a youtuber but i work in 3D animation and VFX industry. Here if Anybody even talks about Amd GPUs they either looses projects or job. You can stay with your below par raster brick and continue to have the Cool Aid drink.
@@Shubhamrawat364 A studio that fire their artist if they talk about AMD... Hum...sound legit.
Similar story with me, but AMD just has nothing near the scale of the 4090, so I had to go with that…
Nvidia blows AMD out of the water, only 2% go AMD for a reason. AMD is always caught lying about performance metrics also.
You get all your info on gpu benchmark or something? 7900xt and 4070ti at least are practically 1:1 in performance/$.
I kinda wish you were right, it would make it a lot easier lmao
Wow, Amazing Video! I had the same view as you but you helped to take the step of buying an AMD card and I don’t regret it.
amd is actually more expensive in my country cause nvidia cards are everywhere while amd cards are very hard to find.... no point going amd if they are more expensive
I have seen some guys complaining their pc wont boot with rx6600/6600xt/6700 on leddit and facebook. Their solution after tweeking bios settings blindly was switching to nvidia cards, and it bloody works. I always wanted to recommend good value stuff to my friends, but that problem was the deal breaker. It's not 100% , but it might happen, and my friends don't want to spend too much time troubleshooting. I still don't know what was wrong
I got an RTX 3080 10GB Version, and it runs every game perfectly fine on 1440p. And yes I play with all graphics options on the highest possible. If the games are not E-Sports relevant, then they will run at arround 60-80 FPS (even with Raytracing for the one which suppprt it) and that is totally ok for me.
For example:
Hogwarts Legacy - Ultra Settings with Raytracing on Balanced -> 60-70 FPS
Cyberpunk 2077 - Ultra Settings with Raytracing (one below Psycho, dont know yet how its called) -> 70-80 FPS
All other game I play run arround 90-120 (in some cases even more)
This is the third Nvidia card for me (after GTX 750 TI und 1070 TI) and I dont even think about to buy AMD. Even if Tubers tell the people to think about buying AMD, I would never recommend cause from my friends which bought AMD, they STILL got a lot of issues with.
You asked for opinion so here is mine. I like to see your face, especially when you have deep and important thoughts. 70% face and 30% cool gameplay would be good for me. Keep rocking!
I chose Nvidia because of iray for Daz Studio. AMD doesn't have any 3d acceleration in that app sadly so Nvidia is the only option.
I'd love to buy an AMD GPU, but the performance hit from my 3080 to the 7900XTX is wayyy too large. Really just looking forward to the next generation at this point.
Which according to their roadmap, should be next year. Either a revamp with the super version of the cards like the 20 series, or the 50 series releases.
Maybe AMD will come out with a really good 7950 version that does really good in Blender.
I had 5700XT the driver was a wreck. i had to use vega56 to tide it through... now im using intel + 3080
I used AMD (formerly ATI) almost 100% since the late 90s but switched over to nvidia in the 1080 generation because AMD was just not keeping up. I skipped the 20 series, but then went Nvidia again in the 30 series because the AMD 6000 series were just not available, but downgraded to the 'midrange' 60TI after having been a high end buyer for decades as the pricing/segmentation were getting out of control. Now here in this generation both AMD and Nvidia have priced me out of the market and I decide that the best 'current generation' card is actually a used 3080. Good luck AMD and Nvidia, steam hardware survey shows that less than 3% of the market is running a 4k or higher resolution and VR is only 2% - almost nobody needs the high end anymore, and I'm not going to be paying $800 for a "midrange" card.
we both think the same bro. I like amd.The hardware is good but the software is so laid back. their FSR 3.0 is still in development and their ray tracing is not on par with nvidia.
One of the fears that is still kinda valid are drivers. Not fully supported and there are still some issues. Nvidia drivers is much more supported and some tools only support Nvidia rendering feature. For me also still Nivida unless AMD made drivers more stable.
Just sold my 6700XT and scored a Asus Strix LC Top 6900XT for $1100aud ($730usd), and slapped a $59aud EK block on it, and sold my 5800X and replaced it for a 5800X3D, and bought a bunch of heavily discounted water loop parts.
For about the price of a 7900XTX, I got a 6900XT, 5800X3D and a waterloop..I think I'll be happy with this rig for a few years to come now, especially with FSR 2.2/3 and RT not really being worth it yet.
I bought a 6700XT last year and a regret it! I should have waited another week and bought a 6800XT for the same price...
You need to keep a good balance of video and narrative input, not too long on the face and no excessive lingering on shots that are sometimes irrelevant.
DaVinci Resolve has been THE editing solution for AMD users for a couple of years now. Usually people go Nvidia for the better Premiere/ After Effects performance.
i have a half broken Radeon X800 GTO which i used for gaming until i was given away a pc with a Radeon HD 5750. the difference between the two but the quality of both the cards. when you read "AMD" on a gpu, you're literally getting something which won't ever die... at least that's my experience so far in more than 10 years of use
amd>nvidia. I dont want unnecessary gadgets I wont ever need
It's whatever your particular use case is.
AMD has a history lagging anywhere from 6 months to 2 years behind NVidia in terms of features and even then, it's a lesser version that they have to opensouce to get people to adopt it. People seem to think AMD is their friend by charging less. It's more like they have too. Want cutting edge features, better day-one drivers and willing to pay the premium for it, NVidia has you covered. Want to max out performance to budget ratio, AMD is currently the way to go. It's that simple. Personally, I like RT and find real G-Sync noticeably better than Freesync. Even so the last GPU i bought was for my nephew and it was an Intel Arc 750...decent performance, steadily improving drivers and 500USD of productivity software and games. Intel even has feature parity with NVidia and then some. Why are they being left out of the discussion?
Yeah, why? Maybe for crappy drivers and hardware? And i doubt G-Sync is ''noticeably better'' than FreeSync. G-Sync is more expensive technology and FreeSync is more often adding in the Monitors. NVIDIA is for rich, who loves flaunt their expensive things
If you do get an AMD card for your system, remember to remove the Nvidia drivers preferably with DDU and put the correct AMD drivers on. Or you might run into weirdness.
Why people aren't switching to AMD is quite simple.
They still charge too much for what you get, they try to pride themselves in not giving "gamers what they don't want", but also at the same time charge nearly the same as nvidia with less features.
I would rather have tensor cores than not having them when the difference in price is so small.
If you went for a 3080Ti finding it used, you would get a no compromise NVIDIA experience for the RTX 3000 series.
My case i had to kept using Radeon since Freesync in NVIDIA doesnt work that well
Especially if you go 60hz mod with Freeync being turned on it loses my monitor signal which doesnt happens in AMD
Yeah, monitors with FreeSync costs significantly less than NVIDIA's G-Sync
Yeah, I bought a RTX 3060 Ti December 2022 and already having problems due to the low VRAM.
See, I did that and bought the leap to a 5700xt nitro+. I then had the black screen issues and spent the majority of my time following fixes people posted, none resolved it so I sent it back for a 2070 super.
that what's i frightened the most, i end up upgrade to rtx 3060 ti
The free version of Davinci Resolve doesn't have gpu accelerated rendering
The thing with AMD GPUs, their biggest edge is monetary value. They might not be the best of the best in terms or raw power, performance in work tasks or the accompanying technologies, but they bring the optimal balance between performance and cost, especially in lower-end segment. Look at 6600 vs 3050, 6700 vs 3060 or 3800 vs 3070, and the AMD cards will be the clear winners for their cost. 6700xt, 6800xt and to a lesser extent 6900 are also great cards that pack quite a punch, and the excess VRAM allows you to run things in bigger resolution and go for higher settings overall while Nvidia only starts going over 8gb of VRAM in 3080 price segment.
But beyond that, of couse, the technological edge and the performance of the flagship GPUs is currently championed by Nvidia. They make great cards, but only if you have the money or need them for specific tasks optimized for nvidia hardware.
The day I go back to AMD GPUs is when they compete with NVENC, fix annoyances, and make driver issues more user fixable.
Putting gameplay in the video makes it feel older (2010) and adds more of a distraction.
Have a 6950xt and have had essentially 0 driver issues
not me, i got a 7900xtx
Can you do a mix of b-roll (when you have some) gameplay and face cam. Absolutely loving the content by the way
One my friend wanted to get RTX 4070 Ti but they are expensive, so i told him check RX 6800 XT and now in few days he is getting RX 6800 XT Sapphire Nitro SE...i am getting his RTX 2070 i hope that ill be fine for 1080p with 2070 and one other friend is getting my GTX 1060 6 GB.
It was all talked about with us in one day and now all 3 are getting an upgrade very cool!
I like the camera but a mix doesnt hurt. You do you.
i got a 6800 xt because i got double the vram than a 3070, kinda insane tbf. vram is so important these days even for not awful ports like re4 or last of us, even harry potter profits massively of it
I've mostly used amd up until the rx480. I had huge problems with the drivers. I had to reformat my windows out of legacy and had to do a bunch of other things for it to post. After that I went Nvidia. But I may go back to amd graphics cards in the future. We'll see.