How to deal with police
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- A lot of people gasp "What happens when you get caught by the police?"
Simple answer: If you haven't commited a criminal offence, and you're polite, nothing happens. There are a few things they need to hear before they can let you go. We get these said as early as possible, and our encounter lasts around 1 minute:
We correct them when they say we've "potentially committed a burglary"
We confirm that we came in through a non-destructive methods
We confirmed that our photos are for non commercial purposes.
Always be polite, not cocky, but do correct them if they're wrong!
Full respect to both the urbexers and the copper on this occasion - both gave the situation the respect it deserved :)
UtterlyAwesomeVideos Cheers Dude!
UtterlyAwesomeVideos Yes. There's a basic expectation that will never be covered by law. Be nice, don't screw about. Don't hurt people. Even better, help people. When you are "arrested", then you are just that. It's troubling to have your hands locked behind your back and to be locked in cells with really disturbed individuals, spend thousands on representation, having no access to medical care... Yet. Basic human rights (WHO) state that if you are not braking any laws, and are acting in the human interest, you should be allowed on your way. That's not the US constitution, but the agreed constitution of a human's basic rights derived by the World Health Organization. Stand up for human rights. Stand up for your transportation rights. Help bust the criminals, and share their experience as best you can..
+urbanxphotography1 where about a was this place?
It's Severalls Lunatic Asylum in Colchester UK
+urbanxphotography1 He wasn;t a real cop, he escaped!
A cop who knows his job and how to deal with people without aggression or intimidation mixed with people who know how to be polite without being sarcastic or trying to annoy the police for the sake of it. Top marks all around here.
I've just been trawling through a million videos of police brutality and unreasonable situations reactions to even polite officers. Thankyou for this breath of fresh air.
Glad to here it Will. Police are people. Some are nice, some are assholes, same as people.
We got bundled by armed cops last year guns in faces (a rarity in Europe!) But they were actually nice guys afterwards! Cheers Will!
Same here, I'm trying to find what they're like regards filming/photographing in public (found the answer 'public land yes, private land no) and it's nice to see a constable with some common sense. to be fair to the Police they are trying to do a job and the way people treat them while on camera is really asking for trouble, be fair and nice and chances are you'll be told to be on your way or given the correct answer as to why you can't film/photo in that location, be an asshole and give the Police some cheek and expect to treated like a dickhead.
Will Armstrong you must have fuck all to do. A million videos!
You’ve been trawling through “A million” videos of Police brutality? Wow, that must have taken what years, decades? Incredible. Where were these Million videos? Is there a special library of them?
Imagine how many billions of Police/Civilian interactions there are around the world each year and in reality you found, what, 100? 1000? Let’s get real here Will, thank goodness for our Brave men & women in our Police Forces who protect the civilians against all sorts of atrocities. They even protect people from themselves 😉
@@ArcturanMegadonkey as a photo club member you should always be mindful of who and what you photograph a lot of people dont want want there pictures all over social media and you tube and that should be respected photos of sensative areas should not be taken at all
No harm no foul.
If only everyone's interactions with the police were as civil as this...
What I like about this video is that the Photographers don't forfeit any of their own rights but they are still respectful and in turn the police are decent about it they establish that they are not committing any criminal offence and they are on their way.
This is exactly how to deal with the Police. just be honest and respectful and don't try spouting out random crap to try and Act clever. I commend the photographers in this video
This is how a police stop should go! Sure, they committed a crime, but the police were decent. And yes, the police are subject to certain regulations in making their work, but that doesn't mean you need to treat them like robots you can input commands to. Between assholes thinking that they can just tell a cop off and he has to leave them alone, and cops arresting innocent people without a valid reason, I feel that you guys have reached a kind of perfection in police stops. I applaud both you, and the officers. This is a great example of people treating each other with respect and dignity.
Redcloud Blackcloak Cheers dude!
urbanxphotography1 Why's that?
+Redcloud Blackcloak Just a troll. You can see by his other attacks on other posters.
I have to say how well managed and courteous both parties were in dealing with this situation, no egos, no aggression.a reasonable discussion ending in an amicable parting and resolution. Commedable.
the building is about to be knocked down and they are worried that you might have caused criminal damage?
Maybe they wer worrying about them gutting the building for scrap, for example, copper wire or even structural support (i.e metal pillars/exposed rebar) which could leave the demolisher's in danger when they do check's within the building e.g) looking for squatters. This has happened recently where I live and it should be taken seriously as it could endanger worker's live's and even be the base of a lawsuit if one is injured.
He's saying that they could potentially be accused of criminal damage.
@@Zero_Ninety yes
The correct title should've been "How The Police Deal With You!"
This is how you handle police, both parties were reasonable.
errr Reasonable? both parties ? I think not., That the clown in costume was itching to arrest someone and was speaking in a threatening condecending manner
TheBoHoBoy Not really.
Blyro Yes he was , which video are you watching ?
TheBoHoBoy
The copper was doing his job.
He obviously didn't want to arrest them, but he can't exactly just leave it.
He even appreciated why they were taking pictures there.
neh fuk the polis cause they will fuck u even harder the first chance they get!!! ASC
Big respect to that police officer
God he knew he was on the camera , the camera is power
That police officers he’s just acting within the law because he is being filmed . Otherwise he would be in complete cock mode
@@markmitchell2282 no
He was trying to trick them into saying something he could trump-up into a charge in-front of a cooperating witness, same as they always do.
Essex Police were polite and nice in this video.
***** They were under investigation because they were nice and polite in this video?
This Cop has the art of dialogue
That cop is awesome. I love his attitude and his understanding capacities.
Decent officer, respectful.
That cop doesn’t need any weapon other than his brain and his skills in dialogue. Top bloke.
How to deal with police in US: Don’t talk to the police! Don’t admit to anything! Don’t say anything without a lawyer!
How to deal with police in UK: “I agree. I know we’re trespassing and could have committed a major offence, but we’re just nice guys taking pictures.”
Yeh this is quite a rare video for the uk, these are some nice gents taking some pictures of buildings with nothing to hide, it’s a minor crime, you’re gonna see a different outcome with an actual criminal, you yanks think we just drink tea and get along over here 🤣
That was a cop who was respectful and calm, but if you got a cop who was on a power trip this would of turned out ugly and a lot of them are.
Most police officers are like the guy in this video. But "Police officer does his job correctly" isn't exactly an enticing headline is it.
DrewPeacock69 I know its nice to say most cops are like that, but in my personal experience mostof them are power hungry, but subtle not like ,monsters who beat you, but a total lack of compassion and kindness and a rudeness and a unconscious separation with the citizens they protect. Those are how most of my interaction with cops have been. I have though met very kind professional cops, but I have to say they are in the minority. The problem is we need the training to be totally reformed. You are to serve and protect. The serve part is to be apart of the community not seperate from it. I understand they do a difficult job, but as many cops will tell you they view the fellow cops as "us" and the people not in uniform as "them" That is a fundamental thing that needs to change.
Correct osufand!
Because he was being filmed...no camera then its a free for all!!
@@alanharvey9094 wrong osufand
awesome cop! very reasonable and compromising given the circumstance.
This is how you interact with the police.
at last a smart reasonable cop, well done him we need lots more like him
Here here
A very good and fair policeman!
Decent cops, they realised there wasn't any theft or vandalism intended and had a professional well reasoned response.
that was good interaction, it how we should all communicate.
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Nice...non aggressive, polite and calm. That's the way to do it, well done.
Indeed, the officers voice, manner, stance, way of communicating all invites to just tell the truth and get it over with. Much respect for this officer and many can take his example.
see whats happens when you talk to the police like a regular person? you know without screaming about your rights and this and that and yelling at them to go catch some real criminals? you have a lovely talk and a reasonable one.
This is why i love living in England. Getting stopped by the police turns from a criminal offence to a nice chat 😂.
It was never a criminal offence in the first place though
Good, polite interaction between you and cop.
And this is great policing. Well done officer
That copper was firm but fair and the explorers handled the situation well too
Finally a Cop that knows his job and his oath. If only they were all like him.
When you get stopped by a stoned police officer 🤣
Trespass isn't a criminal offence, it's a common law offence. You only become a trespasser once you have been told to leave and refuse to leave. If you are in the process of leaving or you don't refuse to leave when asked to then the police really can't do anything.
Also, what he said at the start doesn't apply unless you have tools which could be used for criminal damage. Obvious tools such as an hammer, wire cutters, etc. Anything you wouldn't usually carry with you let alone when entering someone's land.
I learnt about trespass as a security guard at WH Smiths. Whenever we caught someone stealing we would ask them for their details and then tell them they are banned from the store. If that same person came back into the store in the future he was a trespasser and we could use force to eject that person from the store if they refuse to leave.
Either security guards learn more about the law than the police or the police know what they are saying is bulls**t
Tzimnewman3 Top stuff. MOST security on these types of sites are up with the law, unfortunately theres still the occasional goon. This particular guard is spot on, and is pretty well respected by our community. If he ever needed us we'd be there for him.
I think trespass of a person can become criminal tho? But trespass of property, no.
You and your 'crew' must be morons then. Why do you have to go around causing damage,even if the buildings are disused !?? You deserve to get nicked every time out ! (and no,I'm not a police lover....quite the opposite.).
"You and your 'crew' must be morons then"
I don't have a "crew" and the only times I've been in empty buildings is when I was employed as a security guard to look after them.
"Why do you have to go around causing damage,even if the buildings are disused !??"
My job was to protect the buildings from damage. If I came across anyone just walking around taking a look I would inform them to leave. If they refused then the police would get involved since it would at that point become tresspass. But if people just left when asked too only a report needs to be filled out and an entry in the Daily Log book.
"You deserve to get nicked every time out ! (and no,I'm not a police lover....quite the opposite.)."
The law doesn't work that way. I've been arrested three times and I got compensation for false arrest because police officers don't seem to understand the law they are employed to uphold.
My comment wasn't aimed at you. I agree with quite a lot of what you say...... It becomes 'criminal trespass' when you are told to leave and you refuse (just for the record.).
Nice to see this kind of civil discussion taking place with no "you cant tell me this or arrest me for that, your harrasing me" blah blah blah blah! The world can be like that if we want, just have respect
Just a quick question to all of the budding lawyers on here quoting laws and statutes, what would you do if there was a stranger walking about in your garden?
Grow up, the copper and the security guy, and for that matter the photographers all handled themselves with dignity and common sense, a non-event stayed just that, no injured parties.
I agree with that 100% - and it was a good way of trying to explain to barrack room lawyers about how the police have to deal with things that aren't necessarily covered by criminal law. Their main duty is to keep the peace and often have to get involved. The photographer handled it perfectly.
Clive Cassidy I'd give him the lawmower and tell him to get cracking!
They'd fill their nappies and call the cops.
Clive Cassidy LEGALLY speaking, that is the same situation as this. But ethically, I'd never go in someones garden!
The only reason the police were called was due to the number of us that were in there at once. Normally the guard just escorts us out after a friendly chat.
Depends. If it was my back garden during the day, I'd say "What the hell are you doing in here!" because virtually all of the time they would have had to climb over a 6 foot fence to get in; I keep all three gates locked unless I am in the garden. In my back garden at night, I think I would just clock them with something, since they can't possibly have innocent intentions, and I feel I would be perfectly justified in defence of my property and my personal safety. Do you disagree?
I love the cop. He seems cool. Really nice guy.
WOW what a completely different attitude in the UK compared to here in the states.
Michelle Sullivan Do you think that's a good attitude, from a US point of view?I know that we pride ourselves on the police and their attitudes, but would be interested to hear someone else's opinion
elliswf36 i think it's a good attitude. nobody got shot...that's a start for us cops, no ?
This is how all of the police encounters have gone around my area for..forever. The stuff I see in the US about police problems in large cities.
They aren't all like that you get plenty worse than tge average US cop
London cops are not so cool, not all of them but in general.
actual good police man. I am surprised. There is hope
This actualy gave me hope.
Hey would you believe it...a top cop well played officer...brings back a wee bit of faith in UK bobbies
Prof, there are great Police Officers out there, that are respectful.. Kudos to him ...
That's the difference between old school coppers and the cocky jumped up youngsters that are in the police force today
This is a good example of how interactions with the UK police often go. No posturing or bravado, just two humans interacting. My only objection is that the PO is using arrest an release as a threat, when it really shouldn't be if justice is to work perfectly, but no one wants the inconvenience of that. I feel the PO knows this and is using it as a tool.
Thank you for sharing good interactions as an antidote to all the self righteous, aggressive videos so often posted by members of the public seeking to glorify themselves by looking for conflict to post it under the guise of protecting our rights!
You sound like you are or were a cop. Most conflict with auditors is provoked by the cops. "Copsplaining" to someone who doesn't want to know is not being helpful, but trying to assert unwarranted authority; that's when auditors get pissed off. "Listen to me! Listen to me!" being shouted when someone else is trying to explain something is just plain rude, and it happens all the time.
@@edeledeledel5490 No, I have not every done the job.
Well done the both of you.
Mutual integrity
This copper is my dad!! Seeing these comments makes me so happy :)
thats a cop doing his job properly and a guy who stayed calm and was honest. no crime and no consequences needed. its called mutual respect.
Final thought from pc plod: runnings for mugs
Never was a truer title than this.
So the guy breaking the law was sincere, honest and calm and so was the copper. This was nice to see actually.
One of the first intelligent how to deal with police videos that I have seen. Side note, I am also a photographer and under stand the draw of old building.
A little explanation would be nice: what is that place? and why do you want to take snaps?
It's great that all of the murderers, rapists, robbers, drug dealers and fraudsters have been arrested and there's only photographers left to deal with.
"Running's for mugs" lol love it
and fair play to the security guard too... you usually see them try to beef up and get all in your face....
but, i will tell fellow urbexers.... that i was at a hostel in Berlin with some guys... they decided to explore the abandoned spreepark.... got stuck on the fair wheel.... it just moved on its own.
MERCIFULLY..... a security guard saw them, called the police. The police and security guard had to MANUALLY wheel it round so the guys could get off.
The German cop was shouting and screaming at them, he didnt speak any English... at the same time.... he was tapping his pistol. The people didnt speak German, they knew they were on private land... and were worried they were going to get a bullet in the head. But the German police arent all bad. Eventually a young German officer turned up, she spoke English fluently.... she had a massive go at them, the urbexers for a 300 euro fine and a stiff lesson....
again, fair play to the cop and guard.
Copper looks like Tom Hardy's Bronson 😂😂😂
Gotta say full respect to all parties involved in this video.
Sometimes, in all matters not just this, it's possible to get an absolute ****-end of a police officer.
On the other hand, on other times its the other party that can act very uppity and obnoxious and get backs up.
This is how a situation being dealt with - and all sides walking away with dignity and treating the other with respect.
They were actually trespassing, and had climbed over the fence into a place they were not supposed to be.
Auditors, on the other hand, usually only go where they are permitted to be to take photographs, and often get all sorts of horrendous shit from cops who like to throw their weight about. Then they tend to get shit back in return, rather than politeness. "Can I help you, mate?", and "Can I ask what you are doing, my friend?" and "Do you have any ID on you?" are challenging and uncivil questions.
Nice to see decent police officers, talking sense for a change , retired lifeboatman.
Fair play to all! That's Michael, the security guard yes? Top bloke actually, he busted us a few years back, absolutely sound he is! Just doing his job, but we went back & saw sevs about a year later, lovely old buildings, absolutely massive! This is how urban explorer's should be dealt with, little talking too, nothing else. Hope you guys managed to get back in & get some pics though? Cheers
For ANYONE not from England that has just watched this.....
Don't kid yourself that this cop's behaviour is typical of all the cops over here.
He is a decent guy and knew that everything was of minor importance and treated it as so.
The camera guy was respectful too and that helped everything chug along nicely and they parted the best of friends.
Am I missing something here did the police officer just say " you can be arrested for not committing any offence" doesn't sound right or legal to me????
Where's the pictures of the place? Any links?
That fed wanted to do more you can tell but he couldn't lol
I was looking forward to the camera turning and facing the building. I myself am an urban explorer. What building is this?
It's Severalls Asylum in the UK
that copper a gangster
1 word: THANKS
A shining example of how the Police should deal with things :)
Perfect example if what happens if you're polite to cops. Over in 3 mins even though a small breach of law was committed. But the officer measured the facts, saw it wasn't in public interest and let them go. Moral of the story - cops are human. If you give them abuse, they will not want to help you much. Treat them nice, they will try to make things easy as possible.
It's a civil offence and that is it. No arrest possible unless evidence of a criminal offence.
Incorrect. You can be arrested on suspicion of anything. Likely case being burglary whilst the officer establishes intent through investigation. If indeed no intent proven then you will be released without charge.
+josh uaa - you can not have suspicion without grounds such as behaviour, words or actions, to justify those suspicions. Otherwise I could arrest your mother on mere suspicion I may have, of her being a terrorist.. which may be just because I saw talking to a Muslim person..
E Patterson the key word is reasonable suspicion. Your example you give would not be reasonable. It's just racist lol.
However it would be reasonable for a police officer to presume that a person found within private premises that is not open to the public by payment or otherwise was there to commit either theft or criminal damage, thus burglary. The officer, providing they could show necessity to arrest; for which one could argue a necessity of needing to prompt an effective investigation by means of interview would suffice, would be well within their rights to arrest in these circumstances. There is no difference between being found here vs being found in your own private dwelling. It all boils down to intent. One could argue if I walk into your house and the police arrive so long as I tell them I'm only there taking photos, they should just let me go. In principal this is true. In reality you'd want me arrested and you'd want them to interview me and investigate to establish my true intent. Hope this makes sense.
I should add here though, I don't actually know where they are as that would impact on things also if it is not a building :) In addition to this, my comment relates only to UK law.
Josh you are factually incorrect on a number of points, and I hope that you're not a police officer otherwise there would be good reason to review any arrests you have made.
Firstly, - People do occupy land or buildings without the owners permission and this is commonly called squatting or trespassing, which is a civil offence not criminal offence.
Second, - You would have to have provable grounds or reasons to show that the person had the mindset, actions or articles to commit a criminal offence. You can't go on a fishing exercise afterwards to try and justify an arrest. (pretty basic stuff really)
Thirdly, - If I left my door open and a person walked in and did NOT steal anything or did NOT cause any criminal damage, then they would be just trespassing which is a civil offence, Unlike burglary which requires both the mindset,actions or articles when entering into private property. So unless you can see evidence of a criminal offence.
I would not want police arresting people just because they suspected that they had committed an offence without any evidence to justify the arrest.
Police officer can question and search a person for evidence of an offence, but you can't just assume and then hope to prove afterwards. Otherwise all the bankers in the city would have been arrested after the last banking crisis ( maybe you weren't on duty that day).
This makes a nice change from all those "pleece get owned lolzzzz" videos where the copper asks for a name and gets accused of brutality.
What are they taking pictures of?
WOW what a fantastic police officer !!! its great to see there are some still about
Police are still human's, just because they are in uniform, does not mean they are monsters, cops like this one, was polite like many other cops.Like you said in the description, give them respect, they will give it back. :)
This is why i respect UK cops. Ok not all are this chilled but that was a good interaction on all parties. They knew they were trespassing. They admitted it. Cop let it go. NO need to escalate the issue to a point of getting shot like they do in the US.
PATPAUL a decent cop who knows his job,well done to all.
Let's be fair he's a pretty good policeman well mannered and came across as they all should do well done mate
Can I ask what building was due for demolishing?
IT was Severalls Lunatic Asylum. Pretty large, 1,800 patients so a fair old size. Mainly demolished now.
I must say that was a tidy police officer
The jobsworth looks at the officer with love in his eyes
SO WHAT DID THE PHOTOGRAPHERS DO ------ THE COP NEVER NEEDED TO BE THERE --- WHY WERE THE OWNERS SO CONCERNED SOMEONE MAY TAKE PHOTOS OF A CONDEMNED BUILDING ----- UNLESS IT IS POSTED NO TRESPASSING ---- JUST LEAVE AND YOU CANNOT BE CHARGED WITH TRESPASS .
What were they taking pictures of
This ladies and gentlemen is how you handle the British police
What were they photographing?
Decent copper
When did john terry get into photography ???
Well done to that PC :-) A very nice attitude to the situation. Respect was given both ways.
The policeman talks like John Lydon from the sex pistols lol
respect to the cop for being human and not over reacting shame they not all cool as him
So funny to see your video on dealing with law enforcement have so many more views than your multitude of DA episodes lol This is important and nice info to have :)
Cheers man. He quickly realised we weren't trouble makers. To be fair he must have had a nightmare of a morning, I think there were 49 of us running round dressed as Santa in there at that point....
Must have been epic!!! :)
A straight up honest and reasonable police officer. Why can’t they all be like this guy!!! 😏
Vast majority of Police i have utmost respect for. They've got a hard job. Most folks have no idea what they have to encounter day in day out.
Give that cop a pay rise!
It's nice to see a video of someone challenging the police without coming across as a raging halfwit. Well played.
where were you taking photos?
JUST A COP TRYING TO LOOK LIKE ---- I CAN DO WHATEVER I LIKE.
Bravo to both parties.
How are they going to 'possibly' arrest you for a civil offence ?
People of the world...that, is how you deal with a situation. Take note!
He seemed like a nice police officer fair play
what building is it ?
Pretty well handled by the policeman to be fair.