Josh always starts cold, last year the same argument was made and he ended up bein key to the thunder's late season push logging in a near 30pt triple double in the playin. I fully trust that the coaching staff is capable enough to figure it out. He is also not as bad as a shooter as he has been this season, last season he improved a lot under Chip England and this year he is just having a rought start. He'll figure it out
I think if they added a good interior big man as well, it would help there troubles. Giddey needs a big man to be able to dish too I think someone with shades of Karl Malone would be a great fit!
But the Thunder’s problem would then be who gets Malone the hall when Giddey sits? I think they need a player like Kevin Johnson to fill up those minutes
Giddey is a passer not a high volume scorer so im not worried as much. The one thing that must change is sometimes giddey misses layups he has to remove those deficincies especially in the fast break
There's no doubt about his talent for me, his fit is questionable though. SGA is the PG this season and they are using JDub as a second ball-handler more than Giddey so his best asset is not being utilized
He’s a great passer problem is SGA is best with the ball in his hands breaking down the defense with shooters all around and a big rolling to the basket. If he can’t consistently hit a three he hurts Shais ability to get to the rim and or hit the mid range
I think this is a bad take josh will be fine. Might have a cold start this year but i defintely feel like giddy is much better when he is running the offense
Giddy is a lot like Jason Kidd early on in his career a good rebounder, shot creator and defender. He's at his best when he's allowed to run the offense, if OKC isn't going to put the ball in his hands just trade him. They don't need to break this young man's confidence by continuously putting him in position's to fail. The Pistons, Spurs and the Wizards all need a traditional starting level PG
@@D3liveringChaos no they don't they use SGA as the primary ball handler a majority of the time. They'll sometimes stagger his minutes so he's on the court with the second unit, so he can sometimes run the offense unimpeded. But that's not the same thing. Do you think they're letting SGA just go stand in the corner and wait for the ball to come to him? No they don't, I'll never understand why people run their mouths all reckless when they have no idea what they're talking about
Another over analyzing video about how if someone can’t shoot 35% then they need to consider trading this guy or dragging their team down. He’s great at being a glue piece for the team, help set up other team mates, contribute defensively and drive to the basket. He’s active off ball. He needs to get better at shooting and rebounding. But I think he’s a helluva passer and high iq teammate.
He's absolutely right, you can't be a glue piece if you don't play defense (Giddey doesn't) combine that with the clear lack of shooting and it's hard to conceive a way for Giddey to contribute to high level playoff success
So far he shoot 8/26 for 30.8%. Last season he ended up with 32.5% which is not great but not bad either. A long video to talk about a non problem plus Giddey works fine with SGA. His role can very likely be to bring the ball to SGA and that's perfect.
@@kirbythecreatoroftheundyin1237 and what do you consider ok? The league average over the course of the last few year is between 34-35% that mean you only see a difference over at least 50 shots... And that's 1 shot only 🤯 I shouldn't say that because it's comon sense... It's a low sample, if he shot and score the next one, he will be 35%... We agree it's not elite, it's not bad either. It's slightly below average for a negligeable margin.
@@JmssBraendle "he has to go" for whom? What better player there is for this team? This team needs a young PG that organize offense, that is a great passer, good defender (so preferably a tall body), that can shoot above average so at least 36% - oh and SGA is THE man so this PG must NOT BE ball dominant. I'm not sure there are many players like that in the world... But they have Giddey that is at +3% in 3P% to this ideal... And you want to trade him because he must score 3 3P per 100 shots more so you consider him "good". For your information, Giddey shots about 280 3P per season, to become your ideal player, we're talking only 8 3P a season... *_* I would feel dumb if I were you, like real dumb
@@JmssBraendle love how keyboard warriors jump off so quick, he avge 23 at world champs at the point, but is playing the 2 this season with OKC, which isnt his position, I would argue that like most NBA teams that dont perform, ego's control the coaches, SGA wants to be the man, points and assists and unlike this video says, he is simply more athletic, if Giddey had his hops he would be the main man because his court vision is one in a generation. Give him a break and perhaps aim the issue at the coach who it appears is somewhat clueless.
I wonder how much better Giddey would be if he just took 2 steps forward when they leave him that open and shoot a mid range instead of a 3 like a Shaun Livingston sometimes its better to just know your limits i cant shoot 3's im going to take a few steps in for an 18 footer if they leave me wide open...
You’re about 10 years behind the maths on that one lmao. He’d be doing well to be shooting 45% on those types of shots which is 0.9 points per possession. League average points per possession is like 1.18. That’s horrible offence. That’s the same as if he was shooting 30% from three. When he steps further in it’s also easier to close out to him so the spacing is even worse.
I agree with Victor. As a Thunder Fan, he is a great fit for us and matches our timeline. Thunder lead the league in drives to the basket. Counter point, who handles the ball when SGA sits down? JWill is more of a scorer, not a pg. Giddy is the piece that makes everyone else fit. Not vice versa. Micic is good but Josh ceiling higher Also, isn’t OKC one of the best 3 pt shooting teams in the league? Feels like a reach overreacting on shooting imo.
Look, it's not that I don't think that had Giddey shot better from 3, their offense would have been even scarier, BUT - they're currently 6th in team PPG, with almost 120 per game, second in FG% and first (!!!!!) in 3P% by a margin (the only team with more than 40%), so..... IDK, maybe it's not such a problem after all🙂 I believe he's just looking for his place there, now that a dominant force like Holmgren joined, and it's fine. I mean, he's not looking to be the star. He's a team player who looks to do all the "little" things which are the real glue of a team. Those things sometimes go unnoticed. It's good to have players like him. BTW, one last thing - he shoots 30.8% from 3. Last season he shot 32.5% from 3. Wasn't it a problem back then too...? :-)
I found this video, very interesting due to the fact that much of it contained highlights from one of the Golden State games and the other much of the Portland game. We swept Golden State and trounced Portland! Why would we want to get rid of a guy that gets more than seven assist a game and that many rebounds as well???
-- The vid is not explaining that Giddey needs to go -- just that he doesn't fit well. Giddey (today) is better as a 6th man, running the bench OR when SGA rests. IMO, he's a $15-20M/yr kind of player today (for a guy whose only 21 yo). If he can hit 35% plus from 3pt, his value will jump to $25-30M/yr.
Oklahoma City literally shoots the highest percentage in the NBA so far this season. If they have a “Josh Giddey problem” everyone else must have someone else who’s a bigger problem. I don’t necessarily think that right now he’s a perfect fit next to SGA but he has shown improvement through his career as a shooter. The Thunder want everyone on the floor to be able to make plays for themselves and others.
He needs to be a screener more like how the rockets made Sengun a high level reset button if the offense breaks down. Only issue with that is still he lacks even midrange efficiency
Scribbling on the screen doesn't fool me to think you understand basketball, you are cherry picking these plays. Giddey is often the loudest guy on offence because he understands good offence, there are occasions where there is nothing available but Giddey will create something due to his IQ and vision. There is obviously a clash between the roles of SGA and Giddey but the video should start and end with that statement only.
I really like Josh. But considering the whole team can pass the ball and SGA is a great playmaker, I worry for his future on the team. Having a guy who's basically a secondary playmaker and not a very good defender who cant really shoot isn't as valuable as say Cason Wallace who can be an amazing 3 and D guard down the road. He's already an absolute dog on defense and it shooting 62% from the field and 54% from three an all be it 7ppg so not a huge sample size. But I think maybe by his sophomore year we could crank up his minutes and he could be a great defender and 40% three point shooter and it could be time to move on from Giddey.
I totally see everything you are saying... but I think it's too early to hit the panic button yet.. Chip just started tearing his shots down to rebuild him only like a year ago and that stuff takes a little time.. plus.. he's still 21 so he's pliable and willing to learn.. if he's still getting ignored by mid season next year then I'll say I love you Giddy but I don't know that you fit the timeline.. atleast not as a starter.. so we are either gonna need you to run the bench or we are gonna have to move you and bring up Cason Wallace to the Starting line up or Isaiah Joe... although I will say Giddy's D hasn't been as horrible this year as it was last year.... which improved significantly from the year before... he's still not great.. but I like how it's trending upwards.. I do think part of the jolt on his offensive side has been because the team has been trying to figure out how Chet fits in... which I think we've found now.. Mark said that he's been in a little bit of a weird place to start the season.. but that should improve.. and if he can get some more confidence in the stroke Chip is teaching him he'll start nailing more of them.. because I think part of the issue I see with his shot is more to do with him not trusting himself behind the 3point line so he has a hesitation about taking the shot that I think kinda destroys his rhythm.. the games(GSW) where he's been just pulling the trigger no hesitation he went 3 for 3 and then 1 of 2... when I've watched the games(and I've seen all but the Kings game) previously he was passing up wide open 3s about 80% of the time because you could just see it in his face he had no confidence.. and I don't know about you but if you don't do something with confidence it doesn't matter because you've already bricked.. Even if you think you are gonna fail.. do it with conviction...
SGA, Chet, and JW all create good offense and are at least average spacers. Giddey can create but can't shoot. It isn't Harden/Luka style basketball around SGA that they want... it's guys that can create good offense and don't get in the way. Giddey gets in the way.
Our offense doesn’t demand you be a good shooter. This is literally what people said about Lu last year and he was a better shooter. The 21 year old isn’t as valuable spotted up. He has to take them otherwise he’s Ben Simmons. But if I dropped LeBron, a similar 6’9 giant playmaker you wouldn’t spot him up either. He can, but you’d understand there are smarter ways to leverage his size and playmaking weak side. And 2 years have shown that. A cold stretch with precedent doesn’t.
This is a nothingburger. Josh isn't as athletic as some of his teammates, but he's got talent, and smarts, and he's still very young. The team's record this season is suggesting there isn't a problem of any significance.
As a team we're first in FG%, 3pt% , FT% and true shooting% and you're over here worried about throwing josh giddey under the bus lol 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️idk if you know this but 21 yr old 6'8 guards who play unselfishly and have high bball IQ don't grow on trees and I'm glad Josh is in OKC 💯💯the only real problem in OKC right now is rebounding
It's just pre-pace-and-space defense, like 90's or 80's style. All you need is a prime Hakeem, Shaq, or maybe a nice Skyhook from Kareem, and it's all good.
giddey is overrated by okc fans and I’m a okc fan every time someone criticizes giddey it nothing but excuses for his bad play but not realizing he playing bad because of his flaws that he haven’t fix since his rookie year and it doesn’t help that his playstyle doesn’t work with a guy like shai who need the ball and can’t shoot the 3 ball either Not saying Giddey is bad but the reason he playing bad is because of his flaws and this has been a repeating cycle, plus I don’t understand how okc fans think giddey will be in a playoffs setting with his playstyle next to shai it just doesn’t work
I don’t see it as a problem lol. If Josh doesn’t fit then ig there problem is that they move him for assets (seems great!). Thunder have no issues going forward imo because they own bottom teams picks going forward lol
I think maybe he can make Giddey a back up point to run the offense he still really young don't need to trade him or something just need to wait til his shot come along he is good just not at all the player like Luka people try to compare to .
Giddey isn’t a good shooter but he is one of the best pastors in the league and has a very high IQ. He can make some great plays that lead to scores. I definitely get what you’re saying, but there’s a lot of things that get it does do well. We’re also 14 games in the season and we’ve added Chet Holmgren to the mix and there’s going to be some growing pains learning, how to play with each other. it is very likely that Gedis will get his shooting percentages up to at least 33% as the season goes on, so I’m not that worried. Seems as though the thunder are doing pretty good regardless.
Let him handle the ball stop trying to turn him into a catch and shoot player thats not his strengths. He will improve just let the man start with what hes known to do. Same thing happened with simmons. Same thing happened with westbrook. Same thing happened to faulk .all these players can slash an pass with the best of em. You have 4 other players on the floor dude. Not all 5 have to be lights out from 3. Look at jimmy buttler and bron they fire from middy and its effective. Jimmy was first player since Michael Jordan himself to average 40 plus points in the playoff. It still wins games and ppl dont expect it. Curry forced the league to adjust to him. Same can be said bout the midrange again if organizations started utilizing it. Most wont expect it. If they worked on simmons or faulk midrange and let them pass it around. They wouldn't know if they were gonna go up for a mid range jump shot or a lay up but more than not they will be attacking which leaves players on the 3 line open. The issue is not these players are bad. Its simply they are bad at what u want them to be. So many players made a career of the 2 or the dunk. Legends , hall of farmers. And old heads are still leathal with that close to the basket post or mid shots. Dont even get me started on howard mf was a monster on the post and the rebounds. But u give him 4 mins a qrter because he cant shoot 3s? And rob him up top 100. Mf owned the league at one point . So disrespectful and ignorant these coaches . Management needs to be open minded stop wasting potential but saying there isnt any
He was right about them having a Giddey problem, he was jus wrong about what it was 💀
😂 im 💀 rape
Waiting for someone to say it
@@tom_the_giantsfan929he slept with a 10th grader
I had a feeling giddy was sus. But I wasn't expecting child diddler 😂😂
On Thanksgiving too bruh.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now we have another Josh Giddey problem 😭
This aged fast, unlike Giddey’s love interests
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No no. They age the same rate. It just started later than the law would like.
Underrated comment
NOW they really have a Josh Giddey problem💀
Josh Giddey is averaging 12 on and off the court
16*
Oh boy, timing is everything
Giddey got a whole new problem now😅
Josh always starts cold, last year the same argument was made and he ended up bein key to the thunder's late season push logging in a near 30pt triple double in the playin. I fully trust that the coaching staff is capable enough to figure it out. He is also not as bad as a shooter as he has been this season, last season he improved a lot under Chip England and this year he is just having a rought start. He'll figure it out
Most sensible one here so far
@@andrecambridge4474GIVE HIM THYME, GOT DANG ET!
AMIRITE ;)
They lost in the play in. They could easily be a better team without Giddey.
@@EDTheOneable just say you didn't watch the game next time
@@adybalanolometelmao 😂got his ass there
He got a slightly bigger problem than this
oh this aged like a fine wine LMAOOOOOO bro is averaging 15 both on and off the court 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
15?
@@Moon22999he fucked a 15 year old girl either unknowingly or intentionally
Oh he has a big problem now!
I think if they added a good interior big man as well, it would help there troubles. Giddey needs a big man to be able to dish too I think someone with shades of Karl Malone would be a great fit!
shimmy shimmy shimmy
crazy statement considering the news 😭
The timing of this comment is impeccable 💯🤣
He would get along great with a Karl Malone type personal life
But the Thunder’s problem would then be who gets Malone the hall when Giddey sits? I think they need a player like Kevin Johnson to fill up those minutes
THe thunder got a josh giddey problem alright, he on KARL MALONE TIMING💀
Josh Kiddey
U RIGHT BRO
Giddey is a passer not a high volume scorer so im not worried as much. The one thing that must change is sometimes giddey misses layups he has to remove those deficincies especially in the fast break
There's no doubt about his talent for me, his fit is questionable though. SGA is the PG this season and they are using JDub as a second ball-handler more than Giddey so his best asset is not being utilized
In case U didn't realize, they are playing him at the 2 .
He’s a great passer problem is SGA is best with the ball in his hands breaking down the defense with shooters all around and a big rolling to the basket. If he can’t consistently hit a three he hurts Shais ability to get to the rim and or hit the mid range
@@MrTrueCaller619this anit 2k his the one he have always been the one
giddey to the suns, they need a pass first player. bring kd home and make okc win now. win win
A Josh Giddey problem indeed.
Well u don’t have to worry about him
Josh Kiddey signing with the Charlotte Hornets as we speak
great timing
I think this is a bad take josh will be fine. Might have a cold start this year but i defintely feel like giddy is much better when he is running the offense
nahh i think broski is cooked
This aged like milk in the sahara desert
this did NOT age well 😭
It aged TREMENDOUSLY if I may
Welp... technically you were right. He is a problem, just not ON the court.
Don't worry about Josh Giddy he will be just fine
I don’t think he’s going to be fine tbh
You still believe that?
@@Defort-jd8xe I think so
@@jdwilmoth Well, he's a pedophile, so no, he wont be "just fine".
Is some one gunna tell him
Now they have a real Josh Giddey problem LMFAO
This aged horrible
Giddy is a lot like Jason Kidd early on in his career a good rebounder, shot creator and defender. He's at his best when he's allowed to run the offense, if OKC isn't going to put the ball in his hands just trade him. They don't need to break this young man's confidence by continuously putting him in position's to fail. The Pistons, Spurs and the Wizards all need a traditional starting level PG
Love that spurs fit
this is a really bad take lmao. He has the ball in his hands a lot. He has the opportunity to do his thing
Don't forget Bulls. Does Pistons really have room for him? They already doesn't have room for Ivey.
Is Tyus Jones good enough to be a starter for the Thunder?
@@D3liveringChaos no they don't they use SGA as the primary ball handler a majority of the time. They'll sometimes stagger his minutes so he's on the court with the second unit, so he can sometimes run the offense unimpeded. But that's not the same thing. Do you think they're letting SGA just go stand in the corner and wait for the ball to come to him? No they don't, I'll never understand why people run their mouths all reckless when they have no idea what they're talking about
another year, another josh Giddey panic video lmfaoo.
We have a different Josh Giddy problem now…
Another over analyzing video about how if someone can’t shoot 35% then they need to consider trading this guy or dragging their team down.
He’s great at being a glue piece for the team, help set up other team mates, contribute defensively and drive to the basket. He’s active off ball. He needs to get better at shooting and rebounding. But I think he’s a helluva passer and high iq teammate.
Every time I watch okc play. Giddey always seems to be in the right place at the right time
His defense is not good, and he misses way too many easy layups. He is still an all around okay player though that should improve over the years
He's absolutely right, you can't be a glue piece if you don't play defense (Giddey doesn't) combine that with the clear lack of shooting and it's hard to conceive a way for Giddey to contribute to high level playoff success
So far he shoot 8/26 for 30.8%. Last season he ended up with 32.5% which is not great but not bad either.
A long video to talk about a non problem plus Giddey works fine with SGA. His role can very likely be to bring the ball to SGA and that's perfect.
32.5% from 3 is definitely bad
@@kirbythecreatoroftheundyin1237 and what do you consider ok? The league average over the course of the last few year is between 34-35% that mean you only see a difference over at least 50 shots... And that's 1 shot only 🤯
I shouldn't say that because it's comon sense... It's a low sample, if he shot and score the next one, he will be 35%...
We agree it's not elite, it's not bad either. It's slightly below average for a negligeable margin.
@@aubinaps1427below average won’t win games though… if his shooting can’t get up to 35+ in the next year or two he has to go
@@JmssBraendle "he has to go" for whom? What better player there is for this team?
This team needs a young PG that organize offense, that is a great passer, good defender (so preferably a tall body), that can shoot above average so at least 36% - oh and SGA is THE man so this PG must NOT BE ball dominant.
I'm not sure there are many players like that in the world... But they have Giddey that is at +3% in 3P% to this ideal... And you want to trade him because he must score 3 3P per 100 shots more so you consider him "good".
For your information, Giddey shots about 280 3P per season, to become your ideal player, we're talking only 8 3P a season... *_*
I would feel dumb if I were you, like real dumb
@@JmssBraendle love how keyboard warriors jump off so quick, he avge 23 at world champs at the point, but is playing the 2 this season with OKC, which isnt his position, I would argue that like most NBA teams that dont perform, ego's control the coaches, SGA wants to be the man, points and assists and unlike this video says, he is simply more athletic, if Giddey had his hops he would be the main man because his court vision is one in a generation. Give him a break and perhaps aim the issue at the coach who it appears is somewhat clueless.
I wonder how much better Giddey would be if he just took 2 steps forward when they leave him that open and shoot a mid range instead of a 3 like a Shaun Livingston sometimes its better to just know your limits i cant shoot 3's im going to take a few steps in for an 18 footer if they leave me wide open...
You’re about 10 years behind the maths on that one lmao.
He’d be doing well to be shooting 45% on those types of shots which is 0.9 points per possession. League average points per possession is like 1.18. That’s horrible offence. That’s the same as if he was shooting 30% from three. When he steps further in it’s also easier to close out to him so the spacing is even worse.
I dont think he's as bad as you say he is😅 Might be reaching a bit here.
Did you miss the part where I said he is good? It is a fit issue at the moment
I agree with Victor. As a Thunder Fan, he is a great fit for us and matches our timeline. Thunder lead the league in drives to the basket.
Counter point, who handles the ball when SGA sits down? JWill is more of a scorer, not a pg. Giddy is the piece that makes everyone else fit. Not vice versa. Micic is good but Josh ceiling higher
Also, isn’t OKC one of the best 3 pt shooting teams in the league? Feels like a reach overreacting on shooting imo.
@@SLExtra-xc4mvyou literally went on for like 5 minutes how he's dogshit at spreading the floor while ignoring every other aspect of his game.
My only issue is his finishing, rebounds, and athleticism. Dude needs a stat boost
They got more than one problem with him now lol
Looks like he was a little distracted 🙄🙄🙄🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Who let dream in the nba bro 💀
Look, it's not that I don't think that had Giddey shot better from 3, their offense would have been even scarier, BUT - they're currently 6th in team PPG, with almost 120 per game, second in FG% and first (!!!!!) in 3P% by a margin (the only team with more than 40%), so..... IDK, maybe it's not such a problem after all🙂
I believe he's just looking for his place there, now that a dominant force like Holmgren joined, and it's fine. I mean, he's not looking to be the star. He's a team player who looks to do all the "little" things which are the real glue of a team. Those things sometimes go unnoticed. It's good to have players like him. BTW, one last thing - he shoots 30.8% from 3. Last season he shot 32.5% from 3. Wasn't it a problem back then too...? :-)
I found this video, very interesting due to the fact that much of it contained highlights from one of the Golden State games and the other much of the Portland game. We swept Golden State and trounced Portland! Why would we want to get rid of a guy that gets more than seven assist a game and that many rebounds as well???
especially when we are bad on rebounds now.
-- The vid is not explaining that Giddey needs to go -- just that he doesn't fit well.
Giddey (today) is better as a 6th man, running the bench OR when SGA rests. IMO, he's a $15-20M/yr kind of player today (for a guy whose only 21 yo). If he can hit 35% plus from 3pt, his value will jump to $25-30M/yr.
Oklahoma City literally shoots the highest percentage in the NBA so far this season. If they have a “Josh Giddey problem” everyone else must have someone else who’s a bigger problem. I don’t necessarily think that right now he’s a perfect fit next to SGA but he has shown improvement through his career as a shooter. The Thunder want everyone on the floor to be able to make plays for themselves and others.
If anything. I think he's the perfect fit to along with SGA. A scoring guard and a distributor
Big problem 😂😂😂
Same problem with any team that’s gets a new player. There will always be an issue with who’s handling the ball more now.
Giddy got a kiddie problem.
They’ll be aight they have picks they can trade or develop him because they are still a young team
Ain’t worth shit now
He needs to be a screener more like how the rockets made Sengun a high level reset button if the offense breaks down. Only issue with that is still he lacks even midrange efficiency
Unfortunately mid range won’t matter bc all he knows is under.
THEY DO INDEED HAVE A JOSH GIDDEY PROBLEM ‼‼
Aged very well very quick💀😭
Crazy timing bro 💀💀💀
Giddy really is a pg fr not a sg
@fearlessdemxn exactly
Its only a minor issue
Ik sga the main man but wouldn’t the only way to play him is like a pg. he can pass he can drive while his teammates space the floor
Man he knew before we all did!
averaging 15 on and off the court
yeahhh a problem for suee
Wow, didn't know you had this channel too. I really like the approach here, great content man!
Scribbling on the screen doesn't fool me to think you understand basketball, you are cherry picking these plays. Giddey is often the loudest guy on offence because he understands good offence, there are occasions where there is nothing available but Giddey will create something due to his IQ and vision. There is obviously a clash between the roles of SGA and Giddey but the video should start and end with that statement only.
I really like Josh. But considering the whole team can pass the ball and SGA is a great playmaker, I worry for his future on the team. Having a guy who's basically a secondary playmaker and not a very good defender who cant really shoot isn't as valuable as say Cason Wallace who can be an amazing 3 and D guard down the road. He's already an absolute dog on defense and it shooting 62% from the field and 54% from three an all be it 7ppg so not a huge sample size. But I think maybe by his sophomore year we could crank up his minutes and he could be a great defender and 40% three point shooter and it could be time to move on from Giddey.
Aged like milk.
No this is like a fine wine 😂
YES THEY DO
It’s ok Giddey is probably going to jail anyways
A pedo problem
I agree with this video
I totally see everything you are saying... but I think it's too early to hit the panic button yet.. Chip just started tearing his shots down to rebuild him only like a year ago and that stuff takes a little time.. plus.. he's still 21 so he's pliable and willing to learn.. if he's still getting ignored by mid season next year then I'll say I love you Giddy but I don't know that you fit the timeline.. atleast not as a starter.. so we are either gonna need you to run the bench or we are gonna have to move you and bring up Cason Wallace to the Starting line up or Isaiah Joe... although I will say Giddy's D hasn't been as horrible this year as it was last year.... which improved significantly from the year before... he's still not great.. but I like how it's trending upwards.. I do think part of the jolt on his offensive side has been because the team has been trying to figure out how Chet fits in... which I think we've found now.. Mark said that he's been in a little bit of a weird place to start the season.. but that should improve.. and if he can get some more confidence in the stroke Chip is teaching him he'll start nailing more of them.. because I think part of the issue I see with his shot is more to do with him not trusting himself behind the 3point line so he has a hesitation about taking the shot that I think kinda destroys his rhythm.. the games(GSW) where he's been just pulling the trigger no hesitation he went 3 for 3 and then 1 of 2... when I've watched the games(and I've seen all but the Kings game) previously he was passing up wide open 3s about 80% of the time because you could just see it in his face he had no confidence.. and I don't know about you but if you don't do something with confidence it doesn't matter because you've already bricked.. Even if you think you are gonna fail.. do it with conviction...
The game the other night against gsw he was pretty good.
I think I can agree with that..
Josh giddey has 16 problems but only one of them is about the nba 😏☝🏻🤣
This is less than good analysis.
Heliocentric with 4 shooters isn’t the pinnacle of NBA offense and I need not just Tucker but many NBA commentators to get that.
SGA, Chet, and JW all create good offense and are at least average spacers. Giddey can create but can't shoot. It isn't Harden/Luka style basketball around SGA that they want... it's guys that can create good offense and don't get in the way. Giddey gets in the way.
Our offense doesn’t demand you be a good shooter. This is literally what people said about Lu last year and he was a better shooter.
The 21 year old isn’t as valuable spotted up. He has to take them otherwise he’s Ben Simmons. But if I dropped LeBron, a similar 6’9 giant playmaker you wouldn’t spot him up either. He can, but you’d understand there are smarter ways to leverage his size and playmaking weak side.
And 2 years have shown that. A cold stretch with precedent doesn’t.
aussie here. josh giddey about to be banned for a long time. you'll see soon
This video makes me sad
Apparently, if the allegations are true, he needs to also control little Josh. That could be another problem.
Giddey averaging 15 on and off the court.
Give giddy a break he’s not even in his his prime geez guy there are way more things to be positive about him…haters
I think you spoje too soon about Karl Malone 2.0
This is a nothingburger. Josh isn't as athletic as some of his teammates, but he's got talent, and smarts, and he's still very young. The team's record this season is suggesting there isn't a problem of any significance.
Coming here as a ‘you called it’ moment?
Giddey a PG but makes the sacrifice of playing the 2 for the sake of winning. Giddey will break out if he gets traded and becomes the clear PG
As a team we're first in FG%, 3pt% , FT% and true shooting% and you're over here worried about throwing josh giddey under the bus lol 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️idk if you know this but 21 yr old 6'8 guards who play unselfishly and have high bball IQ don't grow on trees and I'm glad Josh is in OKC 💯💯the only real problem in OKC right now is rebounding
The game you’re talking shit bout he actually played good
only whiteboi in OKC we ride with is Chet
we’ve got a bigger josh giddey problem
It's just pre-pace-and-space defense, like 90's or 80's style. All you need is a prime Hakeem, Shaq, or maybe a nice Skyhook from Kareem, and it's all good.
Josh will be fine bro.
Giddey Malone facing some accusations rn…
giddey is overrated by okc fans and I’m a okc fan every time someone criticizes giddey it nothing but excuses for his bad play but not realizing he playing bad because of his flaws that he haven’t fix since his rookie year and it doesn’t help that his playstyle doesn’t work with a guy like shai who need the ball and can’t shoot the 3 ball either
Not saying Giddey is bad but the reason he playing bad is because of his flaws and this has been a repeating cycle, plus I don’t understand how okc fans think giddey will be in a playoffs setting with his playstyle next to shai it just doesn’t work
Josh Giddey has a plus - minus of +38 so far this season.
You're just talking shit as Giddey is a distributor anyway.
does Giddey have any trade value left?
The Jazz were pretty dominant with a chomo on the team could be a smart pickup
Charlotte might be a great team for him
this aged ridiculously 💀😭
I love the Thunder and Giddy. They do need to trade him but they need the right player coming in.
He’s got to come off the bench untill his 3 point shot improves he’s young he can improve a lot in a year or 2.
I think he'll probably be shooting 35% by the end of the season he's been revamping his 3-point shot
@@timeconquersall1789 hope so I like this team they need him to win
Josh Kid-dey
Bro this is the least of their giddy/kiddy problem😂
I think doing a lavine trade would be really cool for both teams. I also think the Grizzlies could benefit from his efforts while theyre in no Ja mode
Wouldn’t make sense especially for Lavine contract cuz u gonna have to pay Chet and Jalen and Isaiah joe and more guys as well
Maybe this in an Australian thing. Ben Simmons too.
And everyone was happy about giddy to 😂
This video aged like fine wine overnight.😭😭😭
I don’t see it as a problem lol. If Josh doesn’t fit then ig there problem is that they move him for assets (seems great!). Thunder have no issues going forward imo because they own bottom teams picks going forward lol
Trippin.
I think maybe he can make Giddey a back up point to run the offense he still really young don't need to trade him or something just need to wait til his shot come along he is good just not at all the player like Luka people try to compare to .
Old school pure point guard
So does oklahoma's pollice office
Na he’s got 15 problems
There’s more problems with coming to light today
Josh Giddey Fiddler
Giddey isn’t a good shooter but he is one of the best pastors in the league and has a very high IQ. He can make some great plays that lead to scores. I definitely get what you’re saying, but there’s a lot of things that get it does do well. We’re also 14 games in the season and we’ve added Chet Holmgren to the mix and there’s going to be some growing pains learning, how to play with each other. it is very likely that Gedis will get his shooting percentages up to at least 33% as the season goes on, so I’m not that worried. Seems as though the thunder are doing pretty good regardless.
Let him handle the ball stop trying to turn him into a catch and shoot player thats not his strengths.
He will improve just let the man start with what hes known to do.
Same thing happened with simmons.
Same thing happened with westbrook. Same thing happened to faulk .all these players can slash an pass with the best of em.
You have 4 other players on the floor dude.
Not all 5 have to be lights out from 3.
Look at jimmy buttler and bron they fire from middy and its effective. Jimmy was first player since Michael Jordan himself to average 40 plus points in the playoff. It still wins games and ppl dont expect it.
Curry forced the league to adjust to him.
Same can be said bout the midrange again if organizations started utilizing it.
Most wont expect it.
If they worked on simmons or faulk midrange and let them pass it around.
They wouldn't know if they were gonna go up for a mid range jump shot or a lay up but more than not they will be attacking which leaves players on the 3 line open.
The issue is not these players are bad.
Its simply they are bad at what u want them to be.
So many players made a career of the 2 or the dunk.
Legends , hall of farmers.
And old heads are still leathal with that close to the basket post or mid shots.
Dont even get me started on howard mf was a monster on the post and the rebounds.
But u give him 4 mins a qrter because he cant shoot 3s? And rob him up top 100.
Mf owned the league at one point .
So disrespectful and ignorant these coaches .
Management needs to be open minded stop wasting potential but saying there isnt any