When you said the fuel valve broke, because it was cheap, reminded me of how sthil product is maid today. Crazy, two two giant companies in the high end world gone to crud.
I bought one of these in March 2018 after losing power during blizzards. Haven't had a chance to use it, yet. But I wanted to run it for an hour or so to break it in and make sure it's all good. The first thing that broke on me while testing it was the fuel shutoff valve. Very cheap. Other than that, it seems like a nice unit.
Nice vid what to expect when you get one of these like I just did. Thanks for the after-market oil filter number in other comments here. One thing on mine is I've run it longer than an hour for break-in so far and the led meter for total time still says 0000, so that's a bummer. All other led meter functions work correctly. Don't forget to float the neutral when you hookup to your house per NEC 702 code. Something CAT doesn't disclose, whereas some other Gen makers i was considering do in their owners manual and show you how.
Question about the bonded neutral...Is it necessary to float, disconnect the jumper, if connecting to electrical service panel through a generator interlock?
@@jdgreenpa Yes float (non separately derived system). Your service panel is already set up inside or perhaps even prior to that panel with a separate disconnect after Utility feed as a Separately Derived System (bonded). You're still connecting a ground and a neutral from Generator feed to your panel ground bar and neutral bar along with your new interlock breaker. You're not suppose to connect two bonded systems together. Just remember if you're ever going to use your port gen not to power your existing bonded system, you must convert it from float back to bonded as it came from manufacture and ground Gen frame with a ground rod to prevent possible shock hazard.
Here are the generator safety tips: This is just a safety reminder 1) Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3) 🔥generators cause fire hazards too. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) generator operation; make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. It’s always important to follow all the generator safety rules whenever you use your generator. Hope this helps
Did you notice the fuel tank isn't 13.2 gallons as advertised by Caterpillar? I emailed Cat about this after I bought it and told them I couldn't even get 9 gallons in the tank. Cat's response was I was wrong. Why? Because the specs clearly state it's a 13+ gallon tank! So that was that.
Here are the generator safety tips: This is just a safety reminder 1) Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3) 🔥generators cause fire hazards too. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) generator operation; make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. It’s always important to follow all the generator safety rules whenever you use your generator. Hope this helps
@@jonbonjovi7547the type of motor doesn't matter. It's the frequency that you're required to change oil (and the volume) for these generators that makes it irrelevant. It makes some guys feel better though.
Please stop talking when you don’t know what your saying. The filter on that motor is the same OEM filter used on certain Japanese cars. Look up the specs on the GX630 it needs a filter
@@jonbonjovi7547 I wasn't going to be rude, but you literally have no idea what you're talking about. An oil filter on engines in this application with changes this frequent is IRRELEVANT. Stop spreading nonsense moneysink bs about needing a filter to suck up extra oil and get gummed up, to replace every 1-2 days with a running generator. The only reason this engine has a filter is because its running a pressurized oil system- its stupid and a waste. Its overbuilt to make nancies feel better, as if the engine is ever going to fail due from oil in the first place. Sit down.
How is it running after almost 2 years? Have you used it a lot? I still have only 1 hour on my RP12000 because we haven't lost power since I bought it.
@@chrisharper3259 Here are the generator safety tips: This is just a safety reminder 1) Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards. 2) Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house. 3) 🔥generators cause fire hazards too. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules. 4) generator operation; make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords. ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. It’s always important to follow all the generator safety rules whenever you use your generator. Hope this helps
Yeah I had a hard time finding an after-market one also. The Fram that is on there is a ph4967. I have run mine for one gallon of gas every three months since I've had it and have had no issues with that filter
Is this true? or is that a joke inside of a joke??? Ive seen vids and read that the predators from HF are a HONDA REMAKE ( even tho its a ripoff honda gx series)
According to CAT the engine is Caterpillar designed and manufactured by them. They said it was not a rebranded Honda clone. Aka a rebranded predator. This is the information that Caterpillar themselves published.
@@chrisparker9886 I don't believe that for a second. It has to be the same Chinese Honda clone 670cc engine branded as Predator. Toro/Exmark does the same thing in the mower business, they market a 708cc engine in their mowers that is the same as a Predator 708cc.
@@ironmatic1 Maybe the Predator is now a copy of the Caterpillar design. Although many Chinese products are low quality, many are high quality, too, depending on the company.
When you said the fuel valve broke, because it was cheap, reminded me of how sthil product is maid today. Crazy, two two giant companies in the high end world gone to crud.
I bought one of these in March 2018 after losing power during blizzards. Haven't had a chance to use it, yet. But I wanted to run it for an hour or so to break it in and make sure it's all good. The first thing that broke on me while testing it was the fuel shutoff valve. Very cheap. Other than that, it seems like a nice unit.
Dang I will be careful turning it!!!
Nice vid what to expect when you get one of these like I just did. Thanks for the after-market oil filter number in other comments here. One thing on mine is I've run it longer than an hour for break-in so far and the led meter for total time still says 0000, so that's a bummer. All other led meter functions work correctly. Don't forget to float the neutral when you hookup to your house per NEC 702 code. Something CAT doesn't disclose, whereas some other Gen makers i was considering do in their owners manual and show you how.
Question about the bonded neutral...Is it necessary to float, disconnect the jumper, if connecting to electrical service panel through a generator interlock?
@@jdgreenpa Yes float (non separately derived system). Your service panel is already set up inside or perhaps even prior to that panel with a separate disconnect after Utility feed as a Separately Derived System (bonded). You're still connecting a ground and a neutral from Generator feed to your panel ground bar and neutral bar along with your new interlock breaker. You're not suppose to connect two bonded systems together. Just remember if you're ever going to use your port gen not to power your existing bonded system, you must convert it from float back to bonded as it came from manufacture and ground Gen frame with a ground rod to prevent possible shock hazard.
Here are the generator safety tips:
This is just a safety reminder
1) Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3) 🔥generators cause fire hazards too. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) generator operation; make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. It’s always important to follow all the generator safety rules whenever you use your generator.
Hope this helps
Did you notice the fuel tank isn't 13.2 gallons as advertised by Caterpillar?
I emailed Cat about this after I bought it and told them I couldn't even get 9 gallons in the tank. Cat's response was I was wrong. Why? Because the specs clearly state it's a 13+ gallon tank! So that was that.
Here are the generator safety tips:
This is just a safety reminder
1) Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3) 🔥generators cause fire hazards too. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) generator operation; make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. It’s always important to follow all the generator safety rules whenever you use your generator.
Hope this helps
LOVE THIS Love this, large and stable.
You for got to say how much it cost.
Damn you bought from the highest place on earth
I did a lot of research. That was the cheapest price on a 12000 that I could find. Maybe the highest that I didn't have any issues.
How's the generator working now for you, would you buy it again?
Works great. Been starting every 3 months.
Hi, nice video of the caterpillar, can you please tell me the number of the oil filter ?
The after market one?
Yes
@@CRJ02 Fram ph4967
@@CRJ02 fram ph4967
Thanks man
Oil filter is just going to catch/waste more oil... there's no need for an oil filter on this engine. I do like the convenience of the drain though.
Yes it does it’s a V-twin motor
@@jonbonjovi7547the type of motor doesn't matter. It's the frequency that you're required to change oil (and the volume) for these generators that makes it irrelevant. It makes some guys feel better though.
Please stop talking when you don’t know what your saying. The filter on that motor is the same OEM filter used on certain Japanese cars. Look up the specs on the GX630 it needs a filter
@@jonbonjovi7547 I wasn't going to be rude, but you literally have no idea what you're talking about. An oil filter on engines in this application with changes this frequent is IRRELEVANT. Stop spreading nonsense moneysink bs about needing a filter to suck up extra oil and get gummed up, to replace every 1-2 days with a running generator. The only reason this engine has a filter is because its running a pressurized oil system- its stupid and a waste. Its overbuilt to make nancies feel better, as if the engine is ever going to fail due from oil in the first place. Sit down.
Is that a Honda engine, or who makes it?
How is it running after almost 2 years? Have you used it a lot? I still have only 1 hour on my RP12000 because we haven't lost power since I bought it.
I only run it every 3 months right now. We haven't had another storm event. But it cranks right up after two years
@@chrisharper3259 Okay, that's great to hear. Thanks.
@@chrisharper3259 Here are the generator safety tips:
This is just a safety reminder
1) Please do not allow an unqualified person or your children to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals don’t say that doesn’t mean it’s safe. That is important against the generator safety rules. We also need to be keeping an eye on our children too. You need to make sure that your children are not playing near the portable generator especially when it’s running so they won’t get electrocuted. Generators pose electrical risks and they can be hot during an operation. Please keep your children away from the portable generator at all times. It is important to keep our children safe especially our little ones. Be aware of all the hazards.
2) Some people use their portable generators indoors which increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. It’s important to have a carbon monoxide if you have a gas generator. Never ever use your generator indoors even if your doors and windows are open and even in the garage is not safe to use a portable generator. Not even at your porch and your deck. It is never safe to use your generator indoors and in enclosed areas of your home. Your generator needs to be 15-20 feet away from your house.
3) 🔥generators cause fire hazards too. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. You need to let your generator cool off before refueling it and before storing your generator. Never overload your generator too. Never ever back feed your generator. You should never plug your generator into a wall outlet. Also never store propane tanks indoors. Please keep flammable things away from the generator as well and please don’t smoke cigarettes near the generator. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important against the generator safety rules.
4) generator operation; make sure your hands are dry before touching the generator. Never use your generator in wet conditions. Don’t let your generator get wet. You need a generator tent if you need to use your generator during wet weather. Please don’t wear loose clothes when operating the generator. Turn on your generator before plugging in appliances. Use the right cord for your generator. Please do not use worn out cords.
ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. It’s always important to follow all the generator safety rules whenever you use your generator.
Hope this helps
50 amps to running your power house
I noticed a Fram Filter your using . What one is it ? I’m having a hard time finding oil filters for this unit .
Yeah I had a hard time finding an after-market one also. The Fram that is on there is a ph4967. I have run mine for one gallon of gas every three months since I've had it and have had no issues with that filter
Chris Harper Thanks 🙏
Don’t use Fram. Go with Wix or NAPA. Much better. If the unit has Torch spark plugs change them out to NGK
joseph puchel Do you have the part #’s for those Filters ?
Thanks
Check number on fram and cross reference.
Where is it made?
Lol this has a CAT branded Harbor Freight Predator 670cc by Loncin Industries out of Chongqing, China
Well looks like now I know what i'll be replacing the engine with lol
Is this true? or is that a joke inside of a joke??? Ive seen vids and read that the predators from HF are a HONDA REMAKE ( even tho its a ripoff honda gx series)
According to CAT the engine is Caterpillar designed and manufactured by them. They said it was not a rebranded Honda clone. Aka a rebranded predator. This is the information that Caterpillar themselves published.
@@chrisparker9886 I don't believe that for a second. It has to be the same Chinese Honda clone 670cc engine branded as Predator. Toro/Exmark does the same thing in the mower business, they market a 708cc engine in their mowers that is the same as a Predator 708cc.
@@ironmatic1 Maybe the Predator is now a copy of the Caterpillar design. Although many Chinese products are low quality, many are high quality, too, depending on the company.
It is very loud
Kinda loud.....