Crass- So What (REACTION & REVIEW)
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Song Link: • Crass . So what
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C.R.A.S.S.!! Peace, food, housing and healthcare for ALL!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely love Crass, would love to see you react to them more ! ^^
Anarcho punk! The Sex Pistols sang about anarchy in the UK, Crass lived it.
Drummer Penny Rimbaud had been squatting in Dial House in Essex, doing various art projects, some political of the anarchiet variety.
He had an open door policy (he still has).
Young Steve Ignorant wanted to start a punk band and Penny was the only one he knew with a drum set.
The rest of the band got together over several months in '77.
Over the course of the 7 years this bwnd existed ('77-'84) they were all living in Dial House.
The first song on this album Reality Asylum is a blasphemic poem that was taken off the album by the folks at the (catholic) Irish pressing plant.
The band then setvup their own record label Crass Records to prevent that from happening again.
The original pressing (with Reality Asylum replaced by two minutes of silence, thanks to the pressing plant) had the first song renamed The Sound Of Free Speech.
I'm sure that any copy of those first 5000 (all they could afford to have pressed was 5000 copies, hence the title of the album) will cost a fortune.
@twizzm6869 back in 2001 or around that time.
It was the only way to stay there.
Sex pistols werent really about that life they werent anarcho either
They still have the house. It's in trust. The doc on UA-cam there's no authority of yourself explains it and goes there
communal living. we all headed there.
The sex pistols where just a damn industry plant boy band. Crass where for real. Genuine punk pioneers.
I subbed a while back for your prog reviews. Happy to see your review Crass. They transcend any labels for me and are just one of my favorite all time bands. Crass and Magma. Lol.
Bata Motel from Crass is a must.
Just saw the upload. Fastest I ever clicked. Can't believe you're doing it.
I think that might have been a 'cleaner' version than the one I remember. I'm sure other commenters might put me right.
@@Richard_Jones The song was the original, but JP's read back was to all intents and purposes 'censored'. OOH, censorship, CRASS would certainly have something to say about that :)
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Both my brother and my college roommate were in punk bands so I heard a lot of Crass and grew to love it. It's an acquired taste but the raw energy is infectious if you are open to it. Great drumming.
Justin, you are SO good at this! Anyone who can get me to listen to punk with honest consideration, is a genius in my book!
I honestly learn more from you than any other reactor!
(Disclaimer: That doesn't mean I don't love the other reactors I support, because I wouldn't watch them, much less support them, if I didn't appreciate them and enjoy their reactions!! Just sayin'!)
But you are very special, IMO, in everything about the way you treat your reactions! You pretty much give me everything - EVERYTHING - that I come to a music reaction video for! Frankly, I think that watching your videos is a master class in "how to create an effective reaction vid"
I ended up having an appreciation for this song, and the genre, that I had never been able to develop on my own! I will listen again, even though it will be by force of will, just like it was the firt time I watched! But who knows, with your engaging, interesting and INTERESTED tuition, I could actually become a FAN of punk!
Thank you for all the love and care you put into your reactions!
You're much too kind to me MissAstor! :)
PUNK ROCK (REAL)is pure no bullshit in ya face greatness
@@heathcornbeef Give me a couple of recs for what you consider to be "real" punk rock. I'm open, and trying to give it a chance.
@@MissAstorDancer kia ora hello from aotearoa New Zealand hay I'm going to be biased and give you some kiwi (new Zealand) punk as well as soom over seas band's first up from Auckland Missing Teeth's song (THE PLAGUE) live at New Zealand Punk fest 2007 and The Murder chord from Auckland two piece keyboards and drums songs to check out (Next Year's Gonna Be Better---My Brain's and Me---Fill up the Tin) Dave on keyboards and vocals was the Drummer for Missing Teeth and is the drummer for Roof dog (Ska Punk) song to check Drop the Bomb. Next up THE CITY NEWTON BOMBER'S LIVE AT GALATOS song to check out is LOOKING PRETTY GOOD FOR THE NEW YEAR. AND my favorite New Zealand band and in my top five from anywhere STICKY FILTH songs to check out are (Nadia--- Happy birthday to us) and from the U.S MINOR THREAT'S song SCREAMING AT A WALL!.... BLACK FLAGS song Six Pack..--- Bad Religion song Sorrow... see how you go with that list please let me know what you think GOOD OR BAD. Next year's gonna be better and My brain's and me The Murder chord from Auckland and STICKY FILTHs songs Nadia and Happy birthday to us
@@heathcornbeef Thanks for the list! That's gonna take a while!😄
You should check out Inflammable Material by Stiff Little Fingers. Suspect Device, Alternative Ulster and Johnny Was. A cover of the Bob Marley song.
Definitely a solid contender for if he wanted to go through and listen to a full punk album. Not really a weak track on it, except the final beep beep nonsense.
@@ReubenAotearoa_ Totally agree. Great album but they should have left that last track off.
The song "From The Cradle to the Grave" by the Subhumans (UK anarcho-punk band) might be worth a go. It has various musical styles which could make a surprisingly enjoyable listen.
Not really "real punk". Just one side of punk. Not really my cup of tea but the best thing about punk it made loads of people start playing music. I had a few punkbands. The second one rehearsed a few hours, wrote some songs and played some covers. Next day we played live. It was probably horrible because we couldn't really play but we were proud of what we accomplished despite that. And we loved to play. Still dabbling with music today thanks to punk.
Bro it’s real punk stfu there’s countless subgrenres of punk but it’s all “real” punk just because it’s not for you doesn’t mean it’s real punk. Just cause someone doesn’t like Morbid angel compared to Judas Priest doesn’t make either one less metal than the other so stfu you elitist punk fan no wonder your show sucked cause you suck
Ha ha ha, sounds like my effing uncle!
For a little nicer side of punk with great vocals, check out Poly Styrene and X-Ray Spex - Germ Free Adolescents on live TV. Not all punk is for everyone, some punks not for anyone, this and The Mouth Don't Stop by Fear are two of my favorite punk songs. Thanx for being willing to dive into punk !
Oh bondage, up yours! I would also recommend The Slits song Typical Girls. Or anything from their album Cut. And the cover for it 😅
Poly 👏👏👏 hell yeah 👍
Not again! This a 2nd post. I hope you at least got/get to see the original JP, like last time. I'd thrown in a bit of background on the band, on Penny Rimbaud the lyricist, and a further recommendation, if you can take it :) 'Bloody Revolutions'. A later song, a bit more sophisticated. And kudos on giving them a listen, there's not many reviewer who'll tackle CRASS.
@@Katehowe3010 Nice. I've seen a bunch of interviews with him, he seems an intelligent, quite a soft spoken guy. Sounds like he was the right man, in the right place, re your predicament :)
You're coming with my favorites of my teen's😍
Glad you've been enjoying the choices :)
That was not the song I was thinking of... I had the "Anti Nowhere League" song in mind... completely different :P
Anti-Nowhere League's So What is definitely a song that needs to be heard along with Streets of London
There's alot of this really barebones approach throughout the Crass albums, but as they go along, they start incorporating other musical elements, and their are a number of more experimental pieces as well. I'd like to see your take on Reality Asylum
you should listen to "Punk Is Dead" by Crass. Very good bass and rhythm there. Lyrics also great.
BIG A little a , and BLooDy RevOLutioNS are AnOtHer TWo good CRASS songs
Crass were a big deal in the UK in the early 80's. Their style of music became known as Anarcho-Punk and also included bands like Flux Of Pink Indians, Poison Girls and Subhumans. There was a split between these bands and the more coventional punk bands. They were very attached to the New Age Traveller scene, which I was a part of. Basically with high unemployment, a Tory government and the mood of the times with riots in a lot of cities, people converted old buses or ambulances and travelled around the country to various free festivals. The main one was Stonehenge, with free festival stalwarts like Hawkwind, Here And Now and Man now playing alongside these emerging bands. I saw both Crass and Poison Girls at Stonehenge, unfortunately in Crass's case some Angels who'd been acting like wankers all weekend dragged them off stage and beat them up. Crass's stuff was quite simple to start off with, it was all about the lyrics. They were often derided for being old hippies, and 'middle class' to boot, an even worse crime in this class obsessed country. In truth though they were the only punk band that walked it like they talked it. God knows how they ever earned any money, selling albums at a budget price, a lot of their gigs were Benefits or free. They all lived communally in a place called Dial House near Epping Forest in Essex. They had their own record label, and gave a lot of other bands a helping hand. They had the British government so worried at one stage during the Falklands war that there was an MI5 file on them. Penny Rimbaud (drummer & main lyric writer) and a few others still live at Dial House, offering workshops and living basically as rhey always did. 'There is no authority but yourself'.
Gave me that Ian Dury feel.
You should try Our Favourite Shop by The Style Council. It's one of the best pop albums ever.
Steve is a nice guy meet after a gig 2011 or 2012 ,
Hahaha! Fair play for reacting to this, but I still hate it along with most punk.
Vocalist Steve Ignorant is still out there strutting his stuff, many Crass songs included. As this is 44 years old you should try listening to current punk and Oi bands for a modern perspective.
Some early Punk bands you should listen to: „Stiff Little Fingers“, „The Ruts“, „The Damned“, „The Clash“, „Angelic Upstarts“ „999“ you will find out that there is, nearly on every album, a reggae song 😎🤗
"SHAVED WOMEN COLLABORATORS!!" "SCREAMING BABIES SCREAMING BABIES!!"
I got the CRASS symbol tattoo on my right shoulder on my 18th birthday 1996
Crass is great! If you want to go further into it i would suggest conflict try the ungoverable force or the mighty and superior. Sorry late to the video but it was great
I'm familiar with their Penis Envy album, never heard anything else by them. Always up for new punk though!
" so what if JEEBUS DYED ON THE X SO WHAT ABOUT THE fOOKer I dont give ATosz"
Was never my preferred branch of the punk scene, but thumbs up for even considering doing this!
Try earlier Clash: “Safe European Home”, “Clash City Rockers”, “Remote Control”.
request Dystopia - Stress Builds Character & Nausea - Cybergod
Crass were beyond punk. They hated The Clash and the Sex Pistols. They were the most intelligent band ever to emerge from the UK.
Saw them for the 1st time in "79 when I was a wee kid and managed to 'borrow' one of their banners. I sold it a year, or 2, ago. Aye, capitalist bastard that I am! I kinda regret it but the 2 month holiday in the Philippines I got out of the proceeds makes up for the regret I reckon. It was only a stencilled bedsheet after all. And the interaction I had with one of the bandmembers, when he found out I had it, was fun! 🤔😏
Yeah, there are good punk you can listen. Keep searching. There are tons of bads sounding alike, but the most known have a sound of their own. Being punk all the same.
My recomendation, a different kind of punk (or nor even punk), try Toy Dolls. Track, don't know: anyone can fill the suggestion? :)
Musically, this sounds like second-rate early Clash to me. For some musically interesting early punk try 12XU by Wire.
Skids - into the valley:
Another example of free speech but the lyrics/vocals will confuse/inspire in equal measure. Probably the greatest single ever released. This is the one you need.
This? Raw. Honest. Of and Ahead of it’s time.
The Most High
Human Being
The Machine
Confusion
Lies
Truth
Spirits in the Material World
Great video
Appreciation
Understanding
Got to go n get the cat
They were genuine anarchists not so much punk as basically no one in the band could play their instruments, they didn’t care and that was the point . Penny lives on a commune these days and is still WAY out there 👍🏴
I like this, but " So What" by Mile David is quite a bit better. LOL.
At the time people couldn't believe how tuneless crass were, they sound really melodic compared to thrash metal these days
Every "real punk" I know listened to Crass religiously. Personally, I preferred the Raincoats or Nomeansno. Also, check out Big in Japan, which launched Bill Drummond, Ian Broudie, Holly Johnson and Budgie before the KLF, Lightning Seeds, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Siouxsie and the Banshees. Big in Japan were like the Beatles of punk.
(Budgie, the drummer that is... not the Welsh Legends)
Crass best before is very god album
Didn’t hate it. Did hate some of the dissing lyrics.
Not the song that I was thinking of....
I liked it as well, am probably more used to the punk vocals. And be thankful it wasn't the Anti-Nowhere League song So What that Metallic covered. Half the lyrics are swearing 😅
I've never heard this before but when I saw it my first thought was "oh no it's not the same as the Anti Nowhere League version is it". Dont think it would have gone down as well as this somehow.
I love Crass, but as an adult it's important to remember these were very young people. Their opinions, and experiences hold value, but come from a place of youthful ignorance, and inexperience.
Very late to this party, but I had to correct: Penny Rimbaud and Gee Vaucher were mid 30’s when this came out. Steve Ignorant was a teen, but the rest of the band not so much.
So What? Anti Nowhere League. STOP IT.
The human condition does not care what anyone believes mr whiney lyricist. So What. The song at least brings a cleverness to an over used argument. Points for that.
Punk was about the time I abandoned music radio. Don't like most of it.
Any chance you will be doing music from 1900 - 1950? There's a hole a reactor could fly a 747 through.
Please remember that this was very edgy in era you’d be beaten up for dressing differently it was a volotile time and oliticaly on one swore not in this ring music or literature a very ridged violent Britain in the mid seventies great times we felt free and we had something to say shame no one listened
I hated most punk songs and bands.
They can’t play, can’t sing.
'can't play, can't sing' isn't that from Adam and the Ants, 'Goody Two shoes' :)
Don't want to listen to this stuff, I already have a terrible migraine and don't want it to last. Justin, you should come back to The Damned one of these days...
Nasty. Either 300mg+ of aspirin or a high dose of Magnesium help me with those.
Re The Damned, I'd nominate The Black Album.
I did, but they blocked my video I just did for them🤣
@@JustJP So i think it will end up on patreon...
@@jfergs.3302 The Black Album and Strawberries were The Damned at their peak.
Tosser is the word. Not "guy."
Awful
It has got attitude. Great if you are in the mood for it. Dull if you are not.
I much prefer to something with decent lyrics and a bit more musicality. "Plea from a cat named Virtute", by the Weakerthans, is more my speed
Actually, the lyrics on this aren't bad at all.
Change your genre your coming off poser, punk isn't your thing.
I'm still new to the genre, but im learning and enjoying. I just did a full album listen of Dead Kennedys and it was great!
You're spot on JP, you're understanding Punk. It was a kind of leave me alone, I want to find out my own way and it kind of brings authority under the microscope instead of one's self. Maybe, for a good tonic all round, attitude, content plus music, try X-ray Spex. Plastic bag is a good one, but Oh Bondage, Up Yours is a must.
Try Grind Punk next JP!!!! Sore Throat, Carcass, Extreme Noise Terror,
Yip can't find anything wrong with your statement about JP OR PUNK ROCK MUSIC
COP THAT YANKY 🙃🇬🇧🙃🇬🇧🙃🇬🇧🙃🇬🇧🙃🇬🇧
Authentic punk but this is the later anarcho variety that I was never keen on. Maybe consider The Cortina's 'Fascist Dictator' or Slaughter and the Dogs' 'Cranked Up Really High' from the first wave or The UK Subs 'B1C' or 'I Live in a Car' then you can move on to Scotland's finest - The Exploited.
Ahh! Some proper music at last! Their seminal album Penis Envy says everything that needs saying about the UK in the early eighties (and now).
Saw them live great show to see the star worship andy worhul to see them live is something you will never see a you will like 999 and undertones
My fav band of all time. Try next time Where next Columbus. Having the lyrics to hand helps a great deal.
Very good reaction. Spot on.. I would suggest doing an album review of The Age of Quarrel by Cro Mags.. Its a hardcore punk masterpiece..
should do big a little a . and conflict whichever way you want it , and serenade is dead
Flux of punk indians tube disasters
lolzzzzzzzz
Anrcho syndalisym
The band that changed my life. Bought feeding of the 5000 when it came out in 78 because I liked the cover.
Little did I know they would be that influencial on my life
When you listen to Punk music and then you find Crass you get to the conclusion that Crass is the only real Punk band ! It has the whole pure spirit of Punk ! It is Pure and Inteligent. And their album "Stations of the Crass" is a real jewel of talent snd pureness.
Love this band so much! 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🇬🇧
Not only are crass one of my favourite bands, the singer, Steve ignorant is a really nice man, always happy to chat if you are lucky to see him
I'm so glad you're sticking with your Punk journey.
I would like to add my votes for X-Ray Spex, Anti-Nowhere League and Stiff Little Fingers. Some other suggestions are The Ruts-Babylon is Burning, Sham 69-Borstal Breakout & Angels with Dirty Faces and The Rezillos-Somebody's Gonna get their Head Kicked in Tonight & Top of the Pops.
Try some pop punk next like The Buzzcocks- Ever fallen in Love or The Undertones- Teenage Kicks. One does not listen to punk for more musically, but less musically.
That last statement is a fair and valid point!
I like this well enough, but I would've gone with something more obvious like Do They Owe Us a Living? I love the message though 😆 For most I would think punk vocals are repulsive at first and potentially forever if you don't give them a chance. I'm glad you're getting used to them though because they're great regardless of their lack of/total rejection of conventional appeal. Soon you may even like them instead of just tolerating them! 😂
Awww man , I learned all the words to this back in 1979 even tho I was a bit scared Jesus would be offended .. thank you catholic education !!
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YES!! Crass were amazing and I am glad to see that you are starting to "get" it.... I suggest also Subhumans (the U.K.ones), Citizen Fish and Culture Shock.
Your reaction… haha😂
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Have a listen to the album 'Deathchurch' by the band named Rudimentary Peni.
Here's some of it🙂ua-cam.com/video/xh1qnESUt70/v-deo.html
@@JustJP Their first 2 singles are also exceptional if you are a person that is into the 'Anarcho Punk' genre. For me personally I can't think of a better album. You are too young though to truly appreciate what it was actually like here in the UK 1977 - 1984 (The 7 years of Crass being around and playing live). Still it's good that people still discover these bands even after all this time.
Some favorite punk of mine: “I Love Living in the City” by Fear and “Your Phone’s Off the Hook” or “We’re Desperate” by X
My opinion is that, like rap, the best of punk are the lyrics. Though, musically, punk is not worse.
You should react to some Conflict now that you’ve heard some Crass.
Check out "You Pay" same album
I can't believe you made a reaction to Crass !
Someone had to ;) Ty 33!
For the lyrics, the singing is perfect, I think. Switching between anger and contempt as it goes. I think you made me like it a bit more than I did, right away. (Wasn't hearing all the lyrics. I think I might be going deaf.)
*The Cure* (maybe before they got called "post" punk?) also have a song called *So What* that you might like. (Might be a good bridge between styles to help you on your way to liking at least some punk.) ua-cam.com/video/NSTrE7EDcts/v-deo.html
(The vocals are much more punk than the "Happy Cure" phase music that most fans love them for, though.)
*Cardiacs* don't have a song called So What, but they do have a fairly punk (with perhaps that little bit extra you were looking for) song called *Hopeless* in which instead of anger, they use something more like irritation (?) from the days when they were shitting, sicking babies. (That's what Tim said. I heard it with at least one of my ears, and that was quite likely the good one.)
ua-cam.com/video/sEEw42wrwJY/v-deo.html
(It's a musical shark swimming in the Sea of Punk - a big, ugly shark that you have to kiss - which is an obscure reference you'll hopefully one day feel wasn't excessive, considering I'd already called the song a shark, all hidden away under the water till it bites up with lots of sharp teeth at you.)
*Icky Qualms* is almost exactly punk (right down to the anger - although it's anger about icky qualms, which perhaps dilutes it a bit). Not quite exactly, though. ua-cam.com/video/g2Cam5dH0mo/v-deo.html
(It took me maybe two years to get comfortable - and start to appreciate - Tim Smith's vocals. How? There's that something a bit odd and interesting in a song like Icky Qualms, so I fairly often came to listen to it again. Take a mix of "odd" songs that have some kind of something that you can't find anywhere else - like nowhere else - and a few other songs that are just plain nice - like their hit, Is This the Life (especially the long version) - or Helen and Heaven - and somehow that leads to familiarity, and no contempt.)
Damn! That was epic! I loved every second of it, no question. More please!
@@Katehowe3010 Because Rush are absolutely goddamned awful try-hards who over-stretch themselves and stray (unironically) into self-parody.
@@Katehowe3010 I swear, I only touch your sacred cows when you mention them first, otherwise I've got every reason to leave them alone and let them fester in their own delusions of greatness. Honest!
@@Katehowe3010 😳
@@Katehowe3010 you two don't seem to be getting along is why.
@@Katehowe3010 Jesus lol
Side note on this track was that it was banned from being released by their own record company at the time and when the first pressing of the album was released it was missing. Yep the first 3 minutes of the album was just blank noise. I still have my copy
Not quite. It was (Reality) Asylum that was blanked and later released as a single.
Also, I was under the impression that it was the workers at the pressing plant who refused to press the record if it had the song on it. That's what I recall.
All i know is its missing fom my copy fro Small Wonder
@@PaulfromOregon I agree with that.
@@larrycable1827 So What is on the B side. I got the record directly from Small Wonder the week it was released.
I thought this was total poop.
When punk hit I was the perfect age to be completely pulled in and immersed in the culture. I was not, and to this day I really don't see the appeal. I saw no excitement or interest in the idea of abandoning the lush layers of production of Yes, Queen, ELO, Boston, Rush, etc for a stripped down, angry and simplistic style of music. It's not for me.
If I'd been there and older than a toddler, I'd have agreed with you 100%.
I love this song so much. As someone who is an Anarchist and hates Christianity (and is proudly Jewish) it speaks to me on a deep level. Crass is amazing
The vibrators, the adverts ,the ruts , buzzcocks , just a few to check out ,this is easier on the ears .