Triumph Speed 400 or Scrambler 400 X: Road vs Scrambler

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  • Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
  • So Triumph Speed 400 vs Scrambler 400 X. Sporty naked roadster, rugged light scrambler? I was lucky enough to ride both at the Australian launch and thought I’d share some pros and cons if you’re in a predicament between the two.
    Obvious answer, want a naked sport? Get the Speed 400, want a bit of off-road cred? Just a little bit? Get the Scrambler 400 X. We can do better than that though. Are these two bikes interchangeable? Basically yes, but what are you losing going either way?
    Now these bikes are built off the same platform obviously, but Triumph have differentiated them in a couple of ways, that make then unique enough to be considered different machines in my mind, not just variants. You can’t just change the tyres on the Speed and get a Scrambler X.
    There's also a $1000 AUD difference between the two further complicating the decision-making, with the Speed 400 benefitting there at $8,990 ride-away, while the Scrambler 400 X is $9,990 ride-away.
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    Images and footage courtesy of Triumph Motorcycles Australia, by Images by Dean Walters (photos) and Lee Turner (video)
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  • @martindunleavy798
    @martindunleavy798 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m in the United states I bought a 400 X absolutely love it hit the dirt maybe 10% of my miles wanted to downsize from bigger bikes as I am getting older runs on the highway. I commute back-and-forth to work occasionally on this bike love it on the back roads and it’s great on dirt roads.

  • @howardneely2573
    @howardneely2573 2 місяці тому

    Great comparison Kris.

  • @davidbrayshaw3529
    @davidbrayshaw3529 2 місяці тому +1

    Great review! Both bikes appear to offer exceptional value for the money. I might get carted off to the asylum for suggesting this, but I've got a gut feeling that bikes at this price point and level of performance are going to grow in sales in Australia. They make so much sense for so much of the market, with the way that the market is evolving, here.
    The horsepower wars are run, won and done, and at great expense. In these more austere times, bikes like these should do well.

    • @MotoJournoKris
      @MotoJournoKris  2 місяці тому

      I think you're right, they sit at enough performance that you can have plenty of fun without going over the top. More tech than the old mid-weights and in many cases comparable brakes/suspension if not better, and the buy-in is very reasonable, and on-roads on an ongoing basis will be easier to bear, especially if you've also got a car. They should hold value well, with the LAMS segment keeping up demand.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 2 місяці тому

      @@MotoJournoKris They've obviously got the LAMS segment well and truly covered. I wonder how many will rush to "upgrade" once their license restrictions are up?
      In the "real world", a bike like this or other bikes in the smaller to mid capacity bracket are well suited to a lot of rider's needs. Australia's growing Indian population aren't going to think twice about buying a bike like this, either. I also wonder if bikes like this aren't going to appeal to returning riders with both a budget in mind and the fact that they're no longer 22 years old and the only real experience they've got on a bike was the SR 175 that they rode at uni.

  • @jaypod
    @jaypod 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice one again mate. Would you recommend these over the Honda CL500 or the CB500X? The CL500 is almost the same price but comes with Honda assurance, I reckon! But having ridden both what would you personally buy?

    • @MotoJournoKris
      @MotoJournoKris  2 місяці тому +2

      Probably comes down to where your priorities are on that one. CB500X is the most adventure themed of course, but the Scrambler 400 X is the closest match and benefits from a more modern loadout, so I'd say there's good competition between the two. The CL500 is a bit more relaxed than both, in the scrambler theme and will probably suit someone a little less focused on performance/sportyness. The Speed 400 is a bit of an odd one out, in being a pure road bike, more like the CB500F. Honda naturally have a big advantage in the reliability stakes, with their machines being around for a while and it being a particular brand strength. Obviously we'll have to wait and see how the new Triumph 400s go on that front.

    • @hydrotricine
      @hydrotricine 2 місяці тому +1

      One is lightweight and beautiful the other is a boring Honda that looks like a fat microwave and probably has the reliability of one. For me the choice was obvious , ordered the Triumph 😊

    • @jaypod
      @jaypod 2 місяці тому

      @@MotoJournoKris thanks Kris. Surprised to hear that the Triumph is a closer match to the CB500X. I find the CB500X to be a bit boring. The CL500 does look a a bit relaxed and probably will be a good fit for riding around in the city. Thanks again for the replies.

    • @jaypod
      @jaypod 2 місяці тому

      @@hydrotricine you’re not wrong about the Hondas. I believe the latest Triumphs are quite reliable. But the I’ve been asking around a bit and the owners usually complain about parts not being available and it takes a long time to source them here in Australia! I could be wrong. Also a bit concerned that these two bikes are pretty new from Triumph and aren’t manufactured in their UK factory. I might stick the Honda but will definitely test ride both. :)

    • @MotoJournoKris
      @MotoJournoKris  2 місяці тому +1

      @@jaypod I think that holds true as far as being a bit adventure centric, the CB500X goes the full hog there, where the Scrambler 400 X is a bit more road based, but more similar than the other two comparisons in my mind anyway.

  • @rsan1704
    @rsan1704 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey Kris, Speed 400 or Svartpilen 401 for first time rider?

    • @MotoJournoKris
      @MotoJournoKris  2 місяці тому

      Both are great, I'd consider looks, and of course whether the dual purpose tyres will be useful for you as to the final decision. Either would be amazing to get started on.

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
    @user-sw2lv3zp6o 2 місяці тому +1

    I'd rather have a CL500. I'll doubtless keep my 390, though. Secondhand KTM prices have dropped as the Thai importer has pulled out. Nick

    • @jaypod
      @jaypod 2 місяці тому +1

      I’m hoping to buy one soon. But all depends on the test ride. Hopefully my wife likes being on the pillion seat! Don’t want to get any bigger than a 500!

  • @TheOverlordOfProcrastination
    @TheOverlordOfProcrastination 2 місяці тому +1

    I love the looks of the Speed 400… until someone sits on it.
    Then it looks like a mini bike and anyone around 6ft looks completely ridiculous.
    Shame.