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Decent drummer speaking here. We can’t do what Danny’s doing.
It’s called a talk box used by the guitarist.
Yep - Peter Frampton made it pretty famous with "Do You Feel Like We Do" - but honestly, that was such a gimmick in that song - "making the guitar talk". It can be used so much better as seen here and in songs by Pink Floyd, Alice in Chains and Nazareth.
Wait until you keep listening to these songs! They get better and better each time!!!
Danny Carey shows polyrhythms well on drum cam for pneuma
I always listen to Vicarious and Jambi back to back. They meld together so perfectly
The band members send it to Maynard and he puts lyrics to the music! Ithink
You are right. First instrumental parts written, then Maynard gets them.
Yep
Yes, that is the process.
It's a talk box played by the guitarist, he plays the guitar while shaping his mouth to get those sounds, it's something like
Have been really enjoying your TOOL reactions my dude
While there are polyrythms in this song, a lot of this song is breaking down the number 9 in different ways.
Polyrythms are the same distance between notes, but accented differently. So one drum playing an even amount of notes with no accent and one person counts to 4 while someone else counts to 3. They will not line up until they count to a total of 12.
1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4
1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2
Polymeter is playing a different amount of notes in the same amount of time. So in 1 single bar, they are out of sync, but they both always accent the same big "repeat" beat.
1 2 3 4 1
1 2 3 1
(Hard to type this one out)
What is happening here mostly, is they are counting up to 9. To do so, one might play 4 notes, then play 5 notes. While another instrument plays 3 notes, then 3 notes, then 3 notes. Both add up to 9. I will say, potentially could be argued to be a Polyrythm, but i am not a fan because you do not say that a 3:4 polyrythm is in 12. While this whole breaking down 9 is clearly in 9.
If any theorist wants to correct me to add anything, I welcome learning more.
Also, the effect on the guitar was a talkbox. A device that sends audio through a tube and then gets picked up through a mic. So you hear a guitar, but the tone is being changed by changing the shape of the mouth.
A vocoder changes the notes some other aspecs of the voice to make it overall sound like something else (like turning random audio clips into gangsta's paradise) i am less familiar with thevocoder, but i am familiar with a talkbox.
Fantastic explanation, thank you
Is there a name for what you describe this song to be doing? In counting to 9? Or is that just...counting up to 9? Potentially dumb question, but I've been struggling to search for the different timing of tool songs.
@@DnDPodcastsAnimated "Odd time signatures" is your best bet in terms of a name. I am a bit confused on your question as I am unsure if you specifically mean a name for the oddity that is 9/8 time, or the whole concept of time signatures and that name is what you would have been looking for.
To give a search term for you though, you can search "tool time signatures" and you will get lists. For specific songs, just type in "[song name] time signatures"
its basically a waltz.... lol
Polyrythyms! Each instrument moves between like 9/8 and guitar in 7/8 but they connect at some point when the math and beats catch up to each other. Makes it disorienting and then like coming home with closure. Was here purely for that drop tho my fav drop of all time! Love your reactions
Really enjoy your Tool reactions my man. Keep em coming. Spiral out my friend.
Great song
Jambi was the genie off Pee Wees Play House and Maynard discusses wishes things to go away in this song. About how Maynard didnt want to let his fame change who he was and if it did, he would wish it all away
Jambi was a character on PeeWee’s play house. His mantra was “Mekka Lekka Hi Mekka Hiney Ho” and that mantra is mirrored in the main Guitar riff. One of the members noticed the similarities and there you have it. Jambi, the title to the song and it’s origin story
YES!!!!!😂
"Meka leka hi meka hiney ho!" SUBBED
Yay!!❤ You won't find a bad Tool song Anthony they're all superb at their craft😊 decent drummer? Hell no hes the best alive best believe it!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pushit, Rosetta stoned.
Pee wee's playhouse jambi was the genie in the box.
It's about the birth of his son Devo H Keenan and how it changed his life.
I disagree. But to each his own
@@ubiquinoxxrosiles2766 you would be in the minority
You have to do the Danny Carey drum cam for Pneuma!!!
That Rus Shpion guy is just the best requester ever... 😂
And I agree with Vanessa, Pneuma, the Drum Cam, will blow Anthony's mind 😅
Also Vocoder and Talk Box are different things. A Vocoder is more of a sound effect that is created with the voice and a synthesizer. The voice goes into a microphone and comes out sounding like a keyboard or synth. A Talk Box is a guitar pedal with a plastic tube that is placed in the guitarists mouth. When the pedal is engaged, the sound of the guitar is sent through the tube into the mouth where it is modified by opening and closing and changing the shape of the mouth. You don’t use your mouth to make the notes, only to changes the sound itself. Think of it as a a Wah Wah pedal with your mouth doing what the pedal usually does.
Vocoder and talk box are two different things that CAN give a similar effect. (Technically the vocoder can probably do a lot more different stuff becauae it is a digital effect added to the voice). The talkbox is the one with the tube in the mouth. It works by sending the sounds being played on the guitar from the guitar's amp through the tube into the guitar player's mouth and he/she can "shape" the sounds by changing the shape of the mouth and lips (kind of like different echoes out of different sized caves). The vocoder doesn't use the tube. The singer speaks/sings into the mike and their voice has an effect added digitally. So a vocoder is more like an effects pedal for a singer's voice, not something that makes an instrument sound like a voice.
Adam is using a talk box in this song. Probably one of the most famous early examples in rock music was Peter Frampton, but you are also right that it was used in Livin' on a Prayer by Bon Jovi.
Those opening drums sound like an idling Harley.
I've always said that too 🤣
6:35 it is the change in time signatures. Majority of music is in 4/4 timing. In 4/4, you can easily nod your head to the beat(kick, snare, kick, snare etc.). Tool will syncopate their music by changing between different time signatures. That's why you can be listening and nodding your head to the beat, and then all of sudden you're off and can't find the new pattern, or struggle to pick up on it. It makes the music feel off or something is missing when not done right, but like you said, Tool is one of those bands that makes it work
The device you're referring to is called a Talk Box. Peter Frampton used it back in the 70s on a few songs.
I’m love when you check out Tool! This song was essentially my husbands vows. And it meant everything! He’s a drummer and he is why I know Tool and polyrhythms. Thank you for taking time to listen to the music that some won’t.
I'll never forget - when this album dropped, I ordered the CD, received it via mail, then jumped in my car and drove to town, blasting it on my stereo. On my way home, I took every back road I could find, doubled back and drove in circles until it was finished. My wife was wondering why it took me so long to run to the store - which was normally a fifteen-minute round trip. I was not going to stop until the album was over!
It’s non ordinary time signatures as well. Because they are not just straight 4/4 and sometimes they are doing more then one time signature at a time which creates the syncopation.
Iambic Pentameter. Shakespeare used it in his vocal timing. Iambi - Jambi
Pretty sure syncopation is when two or more patterns that have different time signatures line up to resolve on the same beat. For instance the bass could be playing in 4/4 and the drums in 3/4. They will line up on the 12th beat. Ie Bass will count 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 (4) and the drums will count 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 12(3). The bracketed number is the 12th beat and the pattern end on the same beat.
You hit the nail on the head with the Bon Jovi song, that’s exactly what it is
tool=goat
It’s the electric guitar running through a tube into his mouth. He plays the notes in the guitar and uses his mouth to modify the sound.
Peter Frampton from the album Frampton Comes Alive, song name Do You Feel Like I Do for possibly the best use of the talk box
He's not descent. He's the best in the world
Ow, Jamby is one of my favorites!!!
Man Anthony…it’s both syncopation and polyrhythms depending on the section and the song..in Tool and especially in the case of Danny Carey’s drumming he uses “syncopated polyrhythms” it’s why some parts of the drums line up perfectly with the guitar while the bass and say the kick drum are doing something different. Great analysis and much love from an Alaskan viewer 😊
Now I will clarify that poly-rhythms and syncopation aren’t the same. Syncopation is a disturbance to the flow of rhythm that accents the up beats whereas Polyrhythms are two rhythms being played simultaneously and distinctly. You can have syncopation in your poly-rhythms. Another person who I think super exemplifies this which is someone you’ve reacted to is Estepario Siberiano.
I find it's like a new evolution on radio stations, whereby the old DJ who pretended he liked this song or that. The reactor on the contrary, reveals their real instantaneous thoughts, shows their authentic body language, experiences true epiphanies, with which the viewers emote and interact. Or at least the better reactors facilitate said scenario.
The name you're looking for is "talkbox"😎, and you were great because you immediately guessed what tool it was. Even many musicians didn't understand this.... And Jambi was a king
With Danny Carey, it's almost always polyrhythms. The sound you're talking about is a "talk box," It's connected to the guitar, Adam Jones is making that sound.
Also like to add that voice box deal was initially brought to mainstream light by Peter Frampton "Show me the way" or "Do you feel like we do?" Usually it does accompany a guitar though. Not entirely sure as far as tool if they did that as well but wouldn't be surprised if they at least put a guitar pedal on the voice box/mouth wawa/ Heil talk box.
first track in tool albums lay the stage and instruction. "let go" ...fall to the music. let the words get you there, but then go beyond even that. there is no "that". there is no spoon. all description is metaphor. watch "things" die. "the map is not the territory" - R.A.W.
"the uni(ONE)verse is hostile(CHAOS), so impersonal(EGOLESS!)" from vicarious = "omniscient omnipresent omnipotent, without judgement" from merkaba = "judith marie, unconditional ONE". jambi represents the "gap", the "grand canyon", the "parabola", the potential to understand "COINCIDENTIA OPPOSITORUM" ("union of opposites", alchemical wisdom) - that everything occurs in the pressence of its opposite.
"all is war" - hericlitus.
"panta rhea" - also hericlitus.
"learn to swim" - tool.
this is why maynard's autobiography is entitled: "a perfect union of contrary things". "fall to gravity and the unknown" - gravity, apc. "don't know, won't know, don't know, won't know!" - rosetta stoned. "what incantation, psalm, mantra: I DON'T KNOW!" "lie (ego)dead beneath the undertow, there doesn't seem (to be) no other way out of the undertow - eu - phor - i - a!"
Shine on forever Shine on benevolent sun
Shine down upon the BROKEN (EGO)
(44&2, disharmonic consciousness, LEAD)
Shine until the two become ONE (EGOLESS)
(46&2, unity/christ consciousness, GOLD)
"til one and one are one, eleven (ZERO-POINT SYNCHRONICITY)" - jimmy
"take care not to make ME(46&2) enter,
'cause if i do, we BOTH(44&2) may disappear" - pushit
"is this your brain on toooool???"
- jello biafra (dead kennedys),
parabola m/v dvd dual commentary
(A: yes.)
see: hemisphere biLATERALIZation
anyone interested in learning more re where tool's coming from,
i would recommend terence mckenna's lecture:
"empowering hope in dark times"
Keep on the Tool journey - they are so amazing! Happy you finally got to them! Now, I sooo hope that you also get back to Nightswish. There's a ton of stuff there for you, all different. I also think you might enjoy a full band play through of Awakening by Unleash The Archers....hope to see either of these soon!
Great choice of song, I clicked so fast when I saw the thumbnail
Thank You😊🍀💚
There are a lot of tool songs where the drums. Guitar parts and vocals are all playing different time signatures that just meet up at certain points. You picked it up correctly but chat was right, it is polyrhythms.
This one is not about syncopation exactly. Each instrument is playing in a different time signature, that's why it feels weird, but they all sync.
At the time of your pause on 5:50, the song is on those three time signatures:
Guitars = 9/8
Bass = 6/8
Drums = 3/4
time signatures and Polyrythyms is what it's called I believe. when it doesn't fit but fits. It's amazing how they do it like it's nothing.
There will be times that the drummer will be playing in a different time sig as the guitarist or the bassist. After a certain number of measures, they'll all meet back up on the beginning beat again. The beginning of "Invincible" is a good example, the guitarist, Adam, is playing a cool intricate piece, and then the drummer, Danny, jumps in playing a simple one note pattern that initially sounds in sync with the guitar, goes out of sync, and then back in at the end. It's like revolving time signatures that add up to a cool sound. Math is fun....
The guitarist used to use a talk box on the break down part obviously during the recording and then again live, but switched over to a wah pedal about 5-7 years ago.
That "stank" face at 7:22! 😆
Talk box is running the sound through a tube into his mouth, which he can manipulate, and then through the microphone 😎🌀
And the interesting thing is that it can actually be dangerous! I bought one to mess around with once and they actually warned in the package that the vibrations can damage your teeth if you turn it up too high! I had no idea how it worked and didn't realize I couldn't use the thing anyway (you have to run the guitar sound to your mouth and then shape your mouth into a mic - which I didn't have) and sold it. My teeth are messed up enough without me sending amplified vibrations through my head! 🤣
This is one of those songs where they each are in a different time signature from each other - it can be disconcerting for new listeners
Not really... For the most part they all play in 9/8, but the groupings differ per instrument. So 3/8, 3/8, 3/8 for drums 4/4, 5/4 for bass.. just as a example
A Perfect Circle Anthony...................... its waiting for you and so are we.......
Must check our Danny Carey drum can performing pneuma !🌀🤘
Jambi is the name of the genie in Peewee's Playhouse
Funny story. I am a big Tool fan. Aenima and Lateralus, ill defend these albums till death. Never connect with 10000 days after few listens but this album hit me hard in 2021, like i'm finally understanding all the artwork of it, a decade later. Never give up on music album of band that you like. Sometime, it take time to understand the meaning of it 🤟
When you referred to syncopation you were correct. In parts of the tune there they will have some instruments playing in for examples sake 4/4 standard time signatures while another is staying in time signatures while essentially playing dotted quarter notes as their new meter. That's more or less one way to look at it. Almost playing poly time signatures or poly rhythms even while someone plays 8th notes and someone plays triplets separately and it played 8th note 2 16ths 8th. 2 parts to one puzzle but are essential to making it work. Just look up polyrythems and you can expand from some of those examples :) carry on and spiral out!
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@Anthonyrayreacts What platform do you do your livestreams from?
Usually UA-cam. Sometimes Twitch if UA-cam ends my streams due to copyright issues.
It may be too early in your journey, but if you want to hear Maynard spit some “fast rap” check out Rosetta Stoned… but pull up the lyrics and read quick… oh and hold on tight for the ride! lol!
I really think you should do a reaction of 46 and 2 from spotify, the real tool song. However great and awesome the kids cover of it is, It would be nice to see you get the experience of the original. that is if you haven't already got it on a playlist and have heard it a million times already.
Great reaction video :-) Jambi can't be listened to loud enough,; believe, I've tried
Talk box I believe
Jambi was the genie guy on Peewee’s Playhouse back in the 80’s
Continue down the rabbit hole and Spiral Out...
Lost keys/Rosetta stoned Next please.
So there is a lot going on here: syncopation is not necessarily a weird time signature (7/8 for example). But accents on the off beats or making it seem off. Polyrhythms are different time signatures played at the same time that usually line up after so many many measures. This is song is 9/8 and 6/4. The example you gave of polyrhythm by a drummer is not a polyrhythm because you just gave an example of a drummer doing something different with the bass or toms and then playing something on the cymbals that isn't the same. But that's what drumming is. You can hit the high hat every beat but then do double bass hits every beat. If you take your own example and count 1..2.. 3.. 4 both rhythms you gave are in 4/4 time. This song has a weird time signature, syncopation, and polyrhythms.
Adam Jones uses a talk box in the song but there can be various other effects on top of it.
It is polyrhythms and Danny can do 4 different rhythms at a time
I’ve heard he can do five if he wasn’t wearing his pants 😂
Mekkah Lekkah High Mekkah Hiney Ho
he is using a vos and a wah together.
This song is dedicated to Maynards son :)
Called a VOX for short or voice box
I know you've heard this man before but welcome to tool if you have it but I know you have like I said to me rejoice while out, here we go....
It should make you think of Peter Frampton 😂 duh
Do Crawl Away. Early and HAF!!
Used to be called a fuzbox.
Danny Carey is arguebly the best drummer alive, since Neil from Rush died.
When you can finally do some boomers and just listen to a couple of albums cover to cover how they are meant to be heard you will really appreciate them 👍
Talk box is what you’re hearing in the solo. It’s the guitarist. Slash does it pretty much better than anyone you should check it out
Jamaica was peewee Herman's genie on the show o
peewees playhouse. thus the wishing. your interpretation was sourced by a zoomer hippie
jambi
Heil talk box.. from bob heil ///
Audiovox is a cheap brand of audio equipment
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