1:14:10 I live in the area and I can confirm that other native americans called those people the Attawandaron, and even that was an unflattering nickname
Thanks, there is a lot more on the actual podcast page that has not been uploaded here yet! podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-states-of-america-history-podcast/id1507224670
I can understand now why he was let go from his teaching job.The above map is not correct and appears to be doctor.Some one has use three different (Leroy) and free STYLE, he shows "Car.place" and also Car.place to Canada ?The People Of The Long House Map(1720) Shows "TE-Car-Hohs" a TRIBE IN THE territory of "NUN-DA-WAN-O-NO- GA"?? Please be carful with this ex-teacher.He is not very well in formed .
Hey I know I’m here late but relatively long time subscriber have you heard of the UA-camr Malcom P.L I think… he covers alot of Iroquoian related stuff, maybe it’d be a good idea for a collab?? Much love
It has been absolutely wonderful to meet the Haudenosaunee, such entrepreneurs and cunning businesspeople. Every episode of this series has me fascinated!
I mention them in these Iroquois episodes, there is so little on them, but they were an Iroquoian speaking people absorbed by the Haudenosaunee, i would assume culturally they were very similar, but i'll leave it up to you to make that podcast, lol.
@@Larry-perkins that's a great question, I don't see references to horses among the Haudenosaunee until the 18th century, with the birch bark canoe and the landscape horses were slow to be introduced, but certainly by the colonial wars of the 1700s the iroquois are using horses.
Again another amazing episode! This really helps me to understand what I am seeing in my chart. We have members who were captives and who were killed by the Natives around Orange. The person where there is no explanation somebody is listed as Indian but part of my Dutch family. On my mothers side we were in Jamestown as early as 1607. So many died there in the beginning people married each other if they lived. Lots of Native Americans down there in the family line. In those times it was brutal with disease and starvation
@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 To say a 90% loss is decimating doesn't make sense. Moreover, asking someone to pretend they're in the 19th century and kill "baby Hitler" sounds ignorant. How old is your audience?
@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 News to me. Must be from a contemporary reference. FYI deci= Latin for tens or tenth. Besides, there are more colorful descriptors such as blasted or scourged. Further, why the faux hand purportedly petting the image of a dog in an old painting? It's superfluous, pandering and childish. I'm not watching to learn your feelings toward pets.
This podcast is misleading. There were times when the French viciously invaded Iroquois territory, such as the Denonville Expedition in 1687, which had orders from King Louis XIV to lay waste to their settlements and destroy their foodstuffs. There were also times when Iroquois tribes were allied with the British, such as in the 1690s. Your podcast has oversimplified the situation and creates a false narrative. You should re-make this video with the added complexity of the reality of those times.
1:14:10 I live in the area and I can confirm that other native americans called those people the Attawandaron, and even that was an unflattering nickname
This channel is so underrated it kills me. Look forward to more stuff!
Thanks, there is a lot more on the actual podcast page that has not been uploaded here yet! podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-other-states-of-america-history-podcast/id1507224670
I can understand now why he was let go from his teaching job.The above map is not correct and appears to be doctor.Some one has use three different (Leroy) and free STYLE, he shows "Car.place" and also Car.place to Canada ?The People Of The Long House Map(1720) Shows "TE-Car-Hohs" a TRIBE IN THE territory of "NUN-DA-WAN-O-NO- GA"?? Please be carful with this ex-teacher.He is not very well in formed .
Hey I know I’m here late but relatively long time subscriber have you heard of the UA-camr Malcom P.L I think… he covers alot of Iroquoian related stuff, maybe it’d be a good idea for a collab?? Much love
@@IReallyLikeTreessmileyface never heard of him will look him up
The true native empire that was born out of the beaver wars was the Anishinaabeg who defeated the Iroquois and Dakota
I haven't seen all your videos yet, but do you have any plans to cover the Susquehannock in detail?
@@WilliamHaich season 5 unfortunately, as I am now wrapping up season 3.
I still cringe when I remember my 4th grade teacher insisting "Iroquois" was pronounced "iroh-queues"
Listening from Neutral Nation territory, land of the Attawandaron.
This series is so amazing, so much work must go into it, glad I found it.
It has been absolutely wonderful to meet the Haudenosaunee, such entrepreneurs and cunning businesspeople. Every episode of this series has me fascinated!
41:57 From then until eminem and yelawolf today, this holds true
im hoping im wrong, but if the jesuit was french, the surname might have been pronounced "Joke"
@@jakegarvin7634 yeah I keep using a Germanic y sound for the j, you are right 👍
Make a video on the Erie people that just vanished
I mention them in these Iroquois episodes, there is so little on them, but they were an Iroquoian speaking people absorbed by the Haudenosaunee, i would assume culturally they were very similar, but i'll leave it up to you to make that podcast, lol.
Was this disease population drop really so fast: 10 years span?
Make one about the great peacemaker
Should be in the first couple episodes of the podcast, Iroquois Myths and Legends Podcast is great source for Haudenosaunee History also.
Did the Iroquois or their neighbours have horses in these days?
@@Larry-perkins that's a great question, I don't see references to horses among the Haudenosaunee until the 18th century, with the birch bark canoe and the landscape horses were slow to be introduced, but certainly by the colonial wars of the 1700s the iroquois are using horses.
@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 thanks
Enjoyed this. Really nuanced video that delves into the primary sources. Looking forward to seeing the rest of what you've made!
Again another amazing episode! This really helps me to understand what I am seeing in my chart. We have members who were captives and who were killed by the Natives around Orange. The person where there is no explanation somebody is listed as Indian but part of my Dutch family. On my mothers side we were in Jamestown as early as 1607. So many died there in the beginning people married each other if they lived. Lots of Native Americans down there in the family line. In those times it was brutal with disease and starvation
anyone know the name of the jesuit who was promoted to iroquoi leader?
Thank you for making these!
Decimation means to reduce by 10 percent. Therefore, losing 75 - 90 % of a population is much more DEVISTATING.
This is no longer the primary definition despite what Dectective Monk might say to the magazine editor, however it is the historical definition.
@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 To say a 90% loss is decimating doesn't make sense. Moreover, asking someone to pretend they're in the 19th century and kill "baby Hitler" sounds ignorant. How old is your audience?
@@timothymooney4466 de·ci·ma·tion
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the killing or destruction of a large proportion of a group or species.
@@theotherstatesofamericahis5212 News to me. Must be from a contemporary reference. FYI deci= Latin for tens or tenth. Besides, there are more colorful descriptors such as blasted or scourged. Further, why the faux hand purportedly petting the image of a dog in an old painting? It's superfluous, pandering and childish. I'm not watching to learn your feelings toward pets.
@@timothymooney4466 Painting?
Hi
This podcast is misleading. There were times when the French viciously invaded Iroquois territory, such as the Denonville Expedition in 1687, which had orders from King Louis XIV to lay waste to their settlements and destroy their foodstuffs. There were also times when Iroquois tribes were allied with the British, such as in the 1690s. Your podcast has oversimplified the situation and creates a false narrative. You should re-make this video with the added complexity of the reality of those times.
@@ericduchess8647 this season only goes until 1664, i have the episodes that will cover these later events slotted in for season 5.
6 tribes jack
@@larrybulthouse455 during the time covered in this episode they were still the 5 nations