I still think this should have been a draw, but oh well hade's end was done amazingly. I can't help myself but love how humble Hades was and accepted his defeat.
I would be more ok if the author actually did something with Hades' character. I mean he was barely the protagonist in his own backstory that lasted half a chapter while Qin got 2 backstories one of which was 50 something pages long. Also Hades' attacks were boring compared to Qin's techniques. I wish the fight was more balanced when it comes to the attention the fighters got during the story
I mean, Qin is great and all but Hades was done dirty here with his backstory. I can't believe they didn't even include Persephone. Besides, the favoritism for Qin is quite obvious.
I'm a bit disappointed. I really like the idea of the King of the Underworld using his own spilled blood as a buff, it's a cool idea having him get stronger the closer he comes to death. But it sucks that they barely made use of the idea. I don't mind Huang winning, but they did Hades dirty.
@@achillesrage9547 ngl zeus got smacked too during his fight, Adam just toyed with him to embarrass him and give the humans a morale boost. If adams doesn’t get zeus blood in his eye he likely wins
@True Terror actually adam eyes was overheating he was I quote dodging attack that was impossible to dodge The blood only speed up the inevitable outcome
Qin using tactics as his main advantage is not surprising since it was reported that one of Emperor Qin Shi Huang's main military advisors/chief generals was Sun Tzu the guy who wrote the book on warfare and tactics via The Art of War.
Huang was fighting to be the greatest king, Hades was fighting for his younger brother... The main point of this round is King vs King so Qin won since Hades wasn't fighting as a King but as a Elder Brother
I think the manga did a good job of showing just how ridiculous and unlikely it was that soemone like Hades lost, even the stoic Hermes seemed blown away that Qin won at the end. This helps justify it being an 'asspull' because I'm sure the characters of the same series would agree
not just to an ordinary human, but the first emperor of the world, Qin Shi Huang Di.. and Qin Shi Huang's empire is the longest reigning empire in existence, its called CHINA... Also Qin Shi Huang was believe to drank the elixer of the heavenly gods and stole godhood himself.
Overall, this is a fun fight. This last chapter was an amazing strategy by Qin to finish Hades in an amazing way. I didn't care who would win this fight, but I wished Hades had more abilities and backstory to be more even to Qin. So top 4 compared to other fights is where I put this fight too.
I always see Qin's battle as a redemption for Adam's defeat. He and Jack somehow inherited the eye powers. When Qin saw how big and bright the star (Hades' Ki) he saw in front of him was already my hint that he's gonna have his best strike ever. His final attack is meaningful. His defense and tactics is fit against Hades but it is also what makes their fight a bit underwhelming. hades' power and abilities has to be simple but powerful (so Brunhild was right to choose a king to up against him) but we already get the hunch from Beel that he's gonna lose in some way. I bet the title where he was last seen foreshadows him to be the next king of the netherworld 🦗😈🎮
The single reason Hades lost is because he imbued his spear with his blood and turned it into a living chi point that could be targeted by the air bubbles.
@@achillesrage9547 he has more durability, He has more HP bar than Hades.... Simply as that He is taking damage from what he see entire life, his body used to it
@@shenzhendrake2429 True, but it would be a fun few pages or chapter, with Hades perhaps getting a few glancing shots in that turns out to be Qin simply luring him closer to strike, and revealing "I could see you the whole time."
Qin’s Valkyrie power comes from her abilities she turns into armor, sword, bow and the other styles that match his fighting style. Same with hrist, hrists name is two meanings that’s why she can turn into two swords. Plus a Valkyrie turns into the weapon most well Suited for their fighter. In Qun case he is skilled in five weapon styles
Im inclined to think that this whole thing was a ploy by Odin to get a bunch of Greek gods killed. We know he's up to something and the main lovers have been the Greek gods
I'm actually glad to have argument. Here's my take on this fight. The odds were heavily put in quin shi's favour, to the point that I'd even call this biased. The fight tells me that hades has all these great achievements, that he has accumulated tons of experience in his long long life... but all that isn't even shown to us. Quin shi used several different techniques to win this fight but hades did the same thing over and over again. Thrust, thrust, swing, twirl, thrust. That's all he did in this fight besides the blood usage. He didn't even try to use the arena to his advantage. Tell me what's quin shi's breath technique supposed to do when there's a dust cloud obscuring his vision... heck if he had used the simple technique of I'm going to move around and attack you in quick succession, this fight wouldn't have had the same result. They told us hades is strong, that he took on the titans by himself, but the fight shows us that this is false. They gave us a brief look at hades but dedicated several chapters to quin shi please tell how that isn't biased. It's supposed to be show don't tell,
I think Qin is the 3rd strongest human behind maybe Sasaki Kojiro. I think Qin can defeat any god we’ve seen so far besides Zeus himself and any human we’ve seen so far besides Adam and Kojiro.
@@danshido3536 well we don't really know Nostradamus and how will we scale him since he hasn't Fight yet... But I'm really excited to see how strong he'll be since he's pretty hype by Brunhilde for being Humanity's Joker card.
@@danshido3536 I don't think he's gonna be in round 8... I think he'll be saved for much later fights, probably somewhere near the end or even the ending fight.
To me, it wasn't an asspull at all, it made sense that Huang could have different weapons since his martial art has different forms and Brunhild had chosen his Valkyrie because it would complement his abilities.
I think a lot of people just don't understand that Sasaki's Valkyrie's uniqueness isn't the ability to re-volund but rather to have 2 independent volunds since Hrist had 2 personalities. It is totally different with Alvitr who had the sacrifice a sleeve of the Almighty Spaulder to create the sword.
@@minius8514 volunds as a whole are kinda weird and up to interpretation, jack also had 2 gloves while hlokk's ability was to turn random stuff into divine weapons
How is it an ass pull to have a re-Volund into a sword when we’ve seen re-volund before and we knew that there was a sword form of Chi-you? Wasn’t it initially speculated by the community that his volund would have multiple forms when it was first revealed that there’s multiple points for his style? Why are pretending this wasn’t set up before being used?
We’ve seen re-volund with hrist. Which set up that she had 2 personalities. So 2 different volunds. Yes we knew there was a sword form. But people are forgetting the fact that Chi you is martial arts. None the other forms involved weapons. Like the halberd or spear. Not saying it’s a complete Ass pull but in gonna sit and say it was setup. He kinda just volunds again not a big deal though.
Thor had his secret about Mjolnir, Zeus had his head twist and Adamas form, Sasaki gets a second Volundr, Jack had his schemes, Shiva is pure badassery, and Buddha gets help from Zero. Qin may have his air bubbles, but that takes precision and skill. Try blowing a bubble so strong, it weakens a pressure point on someone.
Zeus a known shapeshifter and strongest greek god arguably the strongest god. Yeah ofc his head being backwards wouldn’t kill him. You can’t put human logic in gods especially in a anime. It’s just annoying that hades only ability was his blood making his attacks stronger.He is the eldest brother king of the underworld. Respected by everyone. To only have really 1 ability and that ability be pretty basic.Zeus thor herc zero and Buddha even shiva had several cool abilities they used.
@@johngona5929 Buddah is the one who makes the volund possible. So him turning Zero into a volund makes a lot of sense. Without Buddha We would have no record of ragnarok..... I think Buddha is so fat Top 3 strongest Hajun vs Hades? Hajun was way more impressive.
That’s only because he was a pretty hard counter for Buddha for a while there. His prowess is not on the level of any of the three brother of Olympus. A solid Persephone: titan and Hajun is cleaved in two. Poseidon does the 40 day flood move and it’s over. One time surpassing punch and hajun is done.
this was an incredible winning strategy by qin if we think about it. Qin realized that he couldn't defeat hades by one martial art form, so he used a strategy that utilizes a three-hit kill combo: armor technique to neutralize his opponents attack for a moment, sword technique to disable his support, and spear technique to break his defense therefore leaving himself vulnerable.
TBH, my favourite fight was Jack Vs Hercules. Still mystified as to why Hercules was fighting for the Gods. Doesn't fit with the legends or that of this particular Hercules, they should've used Gilgamesh (invincible Sumerian king, born of living Gods (Demi while alive, full Gods after death)).
I know im late, but it was hinted from almost the start of the fight that Huang would get a sword. That 5 point star that showed up behind him the 1st few times he used the heavenly defense had a different fighting weapon at each point of the star. Armor, bow, spear, sword, halberd
As a Huang fan here’s how I would rank the humans in terms of power (Buddha doesn’t count his a god Adam scales to his opponent so it’s weird to rank him) 1. Prep time Kojiro 2. Lu Bu 3. Qin shi huang (Interchangeable honestly) 4. No prep time kojiro 5. Raiden 5. Jack Ze Ripper Honourable mention: Nikola (not enough data currently) The reason I placed Raiden so low was bc I was basing this off of no volund Volund massively buffs raiden by giving him perfect control over his muscles
I generally think, Record of Ragnarok often isn't as clever or as cunning as it likes to think it is as, broadly speaking, it is a series of 1v1 fights with a lot of handwavium as to what is or isn't possible as a divine weapon. It doesn't benefit from extended character arcs, as once the character has fought once, they are unlikely to be revisited again without a major change in the status quo. So yeah, by its very premise, it is limited to what they can do, as even Jack's antics wouldn't have been possible without Hercules expressly agreeing to it. Its main strength, however, is telling a long story about a character in a condensed period. The battle is arguably their greatest triumph or tragedy and explains everything leading up to that point. As a series of short stories featuring characters in history? It's solid. Haung is a man who is incredibly resourceful and determined and shows that, despite being completely overpowered by Hades using his life force, he could also directly target that life force to completely overwhelm Hades for a second. Makes sense, it was a moment being built up throughout the fight by targeting Hade's ki points, thus when he invested his lifeforce into his weapon there was a path available that only Huang could follow. What I really want to see at some point is, one way or another, for a God or Human to get completely crushed. At the moment, the series has stuck to it's formula thus far without any major upsets.
There will definitely be upsets as the end of Ragnarok nears and things get more desperate. Fights are already getting progressively crazier. The Tesla/Belzeebub fight is such a fight. Buddha changing sides. And Siegfried will probably enter the roster.
I really am curious about some of the future fights, Odin's fight is definitely going to be crazy , while at the same time rasputin , Nostradamus, simo hayha and okita are what jm also excited for
Lol Poseidon got done worse......He literally didn't even have any special moves..... And he's the God of the seas..... And they were surrounded by water......
Really good fight but yeah I think it should've been the first draw. But ngl the Greek Brothers have been pretty underwhelming. Zeus didn't use any lightning powers, Poseidon didn't control the water at all, and Hades claps an army of giants in his backstory but has a weak power up. (Even tho it's a dope concept and it looked cool af)
To be fair, Poseidon thought that a human - _any_ human - was unworthy of his true power, and Zeus' whole lightning theme was portrayed more metaphorically (being as fast as lightning and such), but I getcha.
Ikr, I can get behind Poseidon losing because of his arrogance but, Zues has to win even without his Divine weapon and to add to that he got transformation and time stop punch and shizz. IMO they did Hades dirty. His power is to buff his weapon which still got destroyed which is lame.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 none of the God's have really used too much magic anyway, it's mainly straight up skill combined with some supernatural aspects in this manga
IMO they also kind of do Ares dirty by portraying the God of War as some relatively weak Jock. Though I'm taking this manga as second degree so that's fine. And also, the Greeks themselves did not like Ares very much and he was constantly humbled by the other Gods in Greek mythos. One major very powerful Greek God that we haven't seen in the manga is Apollo, who is one of the most important Gods in the pantheon and the most worshipped one along with Athena (also missing).
Qin likely won against hades and he could deflect the energy of attack, and also had a huge brain. While hades couldn’t deflect attacks energy back at the opponent and best stat is strength, which Qin could easily deflect back with one shot. Edit: If you don’t understand how Qin made ares fly is because when ares hit Qin, Qin deflected the attack back, making Ares fly
If I'm being completely honest... I somehow feel that god of highschool is more believable then this, with it's depiction of deities. Their arrival left the entire world in ruins. The people of that world had borrowed power from several different mythologies and folklore such as jack ripper, Hercules, thor, etc... I'm just saying that God of highschool is more believable then this. This epic, but major asspulls like this leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
@@ultrastormvalentine5483 I don't think it's "asspull" but how else would you be able to make humanity win against the gods? Of course the gods have to be weaker than they are in mythology or else it wouldn't even be an entertaining series. I think the way they justify humanity standing up to the gods is cool with Valkyries lending them their power.
Meh. I think if you consider Qin's pitiful background, his ability to take on the pain of others, and as such his technique is wholly defensive.. then "the best defense is a strong offense" transition to a sword makes since as it still implies a defensive posturing in-line with the character. However I think it could have been illustrated differently to show the armour transform to cover less of his body.
Ok but like the fact hades beat all the titans in Tartarus compared to qin beating 1 demon? Like those were all the big bads besides chronos he took em down single handedly not saying he shouldave won but it really made it seem like that was gonna be the outcome in my opin
@@Shicomogs I'm not talking about that spoiler moment. I'm talking when Odin confront Beelzebub and then Beelzebub was like intrigued. We basically know that Hades and the Greek gods are gonna lose.
Best fight so far for me, both characters have lovable personalities, both are really good looking characters, both aren't about talking stupid unnecessary things and both respect eachother the more the fight went on. I can see why half or so of people wanted Hades to win but humanity is obviously the choice, couple of good gods aren't enough to overweigh the amount of ego gods the show has.
To be perfectly fair, qin looking hades dead in the eyes before killing him should've killed him as well The man literally took all of hades attacks and his own attacks as well so double the damage and just survived due to sheer will (which is a very lazy way to win a fight by playing the "well guess he had more will in him!" card)
I mean, bro was legitimately about to collapse but he stabbed the sword into the ground to stabilize himself. He has an insanely high pain tolerance like pretty much everyone we’ve seen fight. Lu Bu didn’t show any signs of pain after losing his arms, Adam literally fights even after death, Zeus just shrugged off his head turning 180 degrees, Jack impaled himself on purpose, then ripped the damn thing out, not to mention taking the hit straight to the face by the god who put Ares on the back burner so much Zeus came to save him, Sasaki was impaled by Poseidon’s trident, who also lost both his arms, shiva lost three arms brutally, Raiden endured his muscles erupting and contorting until Thrud shaped him up again, Buddha, after losing an eye, being pierced several times by Hajun’s arm-blades, was still able to stroke a victory pose and walk off the arena by himself before getting treatment.
For me, it can be anyone to win. As long as the story is balanced, and give them both equally screen times, dialogs, and longer fight scenes. Which sadly, is not the case for the 7th round. They can just make the fight longer after that last clash and do everything as good as Round 5. have all the backup character cheer for them, Qin has already had enough, so just have Chun Yan cheering on top of her lungs for Qin to notice it, and give him the will to fight, and that's good enough. Have Hades look at his his bident remind him of Poseidon, Have a one page flashback of his shock reaction about the news of Poseidon's death. Have Zeus and Adamas do the " Don't you dare lose, You are our big brother. " dialog. And make up a new powerful move or use Poseidon's move in respect of Poseidon. And this fight will be perfect
Idek the second I saw Qin’s Design I instantly wanted him to win and him so badly but I do agree with keeping the outcome the same I wish Hades had more unique attacks because it felt like a similar Poseidon which I understand that’s why he’s fighting but I still feel like he could’ve had a more unique style
I personally think that is going to come down to 6 to 6 on both sides and come down to the last two fighters, so we can see all 13 on both sides and I think the gods are going to win that final match but end up deciding to let humanity live after being impressed by humanity's resolve, strength and potential
@@fatebags Shiva Tandava Karma can burn Divine Weapon. Here's what i mean: When Raiden punch Tandava Karma Shiva his Arm literally melt off. Keep in mind Raiden whole body is his Divine Weapon. I can't see anyway that Adam can counter againt's that
Well I don't get it anymore. They really do hate the Greek Gods like I haven't seen Poseidon, Zeus and Hades using their real powers. Is this downgrade intentional? When I saw the 2nd episode I knew that I should drop this. Probably humans will be winning at the end with plot armors
@@pylone2550 You were right the first time. You used the word "almost" which immediately indicates even to someone who hasn't heard of, read or watched RoR that there are some Greek gods who have won their matches (in this case Zeus).
I honestly was happy that Qin won i just think Hades was a better written Poseidon but that was it. Nothing against those who like Hades i just liked Qin better.
I feel like the Valkyrie turn to do a sword and that’s just fine because he’s able to use a sword I think all of them might have disability it’s just why would they use it it’s not like Lu Bu also uses a different type of weapon know he’s best at using that specific weapon the thing that was strange was that The swordsman guy turned his one Valkyrie into two swords edit I also think with Rasputin versus Anubis that one’s going to be a draw as Rasputin will make the fight last something like a day so they’ll go like this is taking too long fight over no one wins
tbh i honestly wanted Hades to win the fight hes s intresting to all of the other gods and i liked him more than probably anyone in the series excpt for buddha he was so cool
Strength doesn’t mean anything when it comes to technique. Qin was basically the underdog in every category. Gods didn’t think his technique was important underestimated it and was very critical in his win. And your explaining his win wrong. He caught it with the sword because the sword amplified his technique which hints offense is the best defense and he didn’t hit hades with his air bubble he hit hades divine Weapon’s “star” which severally weakened the weapon not hades the weapon that’s why the he was able to split hades divine weapon. However hades pierced his divine armor because of his blood and brute strength. Before his blood was in the fray hades was getting beat By just defense.
Bruh the Greek gods stay getting hoed. They have lost alot of their boys so far in the tournament. They lost Posiden to Kojiro who decided to divide his body up and subtract his soul from the population. Hercules got murked by Jack by getting his chest speard. Now they lost Hades to Qin.....the gods need to step it up
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6/10
10/10 i love this fight
5.5/10
6/10. Both fighters seemed mid and the fight wasn’t very entertaining. Shiva negs both fighters
10/10 my Favorit fight. And Favorit Human fighter
“Magnificent! NOTHING LESS….! From a King”
Mate, gotta love Hades, most graceful death in anime history
A really great contrast to Poseidon, and even Zeus honestly.
I still think this should have been a draw, but oh well hade's end was done amazingly. I can't help myself but love how humble Hades was and accepted his defeat.
@@peterkap5338 wtf
All hades wanted was the avenge Poseidon. Which was sad tbh. Zeus did get mad but Hades is clearly super salty about it
I also thought it was gonna end in a draw as well
@@zenitsuthunder3946 Zeus' anger was more because that Poseidon's loss made the gods look weaker
I’m part of the minority that’s glad Qin won this
I don't think it's a minority, more like a 50/50 split in the community
Same here
I would be more ok if the author actually did something with Hades' character. I mean he was barely the protagonist in his own backstory that lasted half a chapter while Qin got 2 backstories one of which was 50 something pages long. Also Hades' attacks were boring compared to Qin's techniques. I wish the fight was more balanced when it comes to the attention the fighters got during the story
Same here
Same here
I mean, Qin is great and all but Hades was done dirty here with his backstory. I can't believe they didn't even include Persephone. Besides, the favoritism for Qin is quite obvious.
I'm a bit disappointed. I really like the idea of the King of the Underworld using his own spilled blood as a buff, it's a cool idea having him get stronger the closer he comes to death. But it sucks that they barely made use of the idea. I don't mind Huang winning, but they did Hades dirty.
Poseidon deserve lose but Hades ma i really like his char suck he lose but we move on cz almost every gods & humans is interesting
@@konosuba350 man Zeus back must be hurting for carrying the entire Greek Pantheon
@@konosuba350 I hope I get to fight in Ragnarok
@@achillesrage9547 ngl zeus got smacked too during his fight, Adam just toyed with him to embarrass him and give the humans a morale boost. If adams doesn’t get zeus blood in his eye he likely wins
@True Terror actually adam eyes was overheating he was I quote dodging attack that was impossible to dodge
The blood only speed up the inevitable outcome
Qin using tactics as his main advantage is not surprising since it was reported that one of Emperor Qin Shi Huang's main military advisors/chief generals was Sun Tzu the guy who wrote the book on warfare and tactics via The Art of War.
Better King energy that’s how
YES
Huang was fighting to be the greatest king, Hades was fighting for his younger brother... The main point of this round is King vs King so Qin won since Hades wasn't fighting as a King but as a Elder Brother
I think the manga did a good job of showing just how ridiculous and unlikely it was that soemone like Hades lost, even the stoic Hermes seemed blown away that Qin won at the end. This helps justify it being an 'asspull' because I'm sure the characters of the same series would agree
Damn. Hades tank the titan attack by himself just to lose to a human
Sadly....
A very strong human at that lol
@@diamond920
No it’s a ass pull
not just to an ordinary human, but the first emperor of the world, Qin Shi Huang Di.. and Qin Shi Huang's empire is the longest reigning empire in existence, its called CHINA...
Also Qin Shi Huang was believe to drank the elixer of the heavenly gods and stole godhood himself.
If Qin was the one that held back the titans, he would probably also win. He fought one for days and desecrated it with his bare hands. BARE. HANDS.
Overall, this is a fun fight. This last chapter was an amazing strategy by Qin to finish Hades in an amazing way.
I didn't care who would win this fight, but I wished Hades had more abilities and backstory to be more even to Qin. So top 4 compared to other fights is where I put this fight too.
I feel like Hades was a more powerful version of Poseidon, with very similar fighting to his brother.
@@Bahamut998similar yet different since iirc hades goes for power while Poseidon goes for speed
I always see Qin's battle as a redemption for Adam's defeat. He and Jack somehow inherited the eye powers. When Qin saw how big and bright the star (Hades' Ki) he saw in front of him was already my hint that he's gonna have his best strike ever. His final attack is meaningful. His defense and tactics is fit against Hades but it is also what makes their fight a bit underwhelming. hades' power and abilities has to be simple but powerful (so Brunhild was right to choose a king to up against him) but we already get the hunch from Beel that he's gonna lose in some way. I bet the title where he was last seen foreshadows him to be the next king of the netherworld 🦗😈🎮
True
The single reason Hades lost is because he imbued his spear with his blood and turned it into a living chi point that could be targeted by the air bubbles.
Not to be rude but should qin lose because he take recoil when attacking why didn't the final attack also killed him
That the real question
@@achillesrage9547 he has more durability,
He has more HP bar than Hades....
Simply as that
He is taking damage from what he see entire life, his body used to it
@@edwin7788 that’s not even durability that is just buttfuck insane pain tolerance
@@edwin7788 with the blindfold,he cant see the suffering of people,quin blinded himself to not feel his pain
They should’ve gave hades his helmet of invisibility. It’s the helmet he lends to perseus to kill medusa in mythology.
Qin Shi Huang can still see Hades's ki energy and force attack.. Qin Shi Huang will just redirect back Hades offense at hin
@@shenzhendrake2429 yes but it would have been cool to see that hack and then to see that huang can see hades ki no matter what
@@shenzhendrake2429 True, but it would be a fun few pages or chapter, with Hades perhaps getting a few glancing shots in that turns out to be Qin simply luring him closer to strike, and revealing "I could see you the whole time."
@@shenzhendrake2429 the problems is The author did the Greek pantheon dirty 😆😆😆
Qin’s Valkyrie power comes from her abilities she turns into armor, sword, bow and the other styles that match his fighting style.
Same with hrist, hrists name is two meanings that’s why she can turn into two swords.
Plus a Valkyrie turns into the weapon most well Suited for their fighter. In Qun case he is skilled in five weapon styles
Im inclined to think that this whole thing was a ploy by Odin to get a bunch of Greek gods killed. We know he's up to something and the main lovers have been the Greek gods
Agreed I just watched season 2 he up to something 🤣
Great fight tho I'm team qin still big respect for hades for being such a good brother and great warrior
Make a video on how everyone that lost could have won.
I love how since Zeus killed Adam, humanity just decided collectively, that the Greek gods needed to have their shit rocked
Ain't nobody hurtin' daddy.
@@jackb.207 yep but there’s another way of hurting daddy killing his family
Both older bothers dead
His favorite son dead
They did Hades dirty, but i’m glad Qin won. But they definitely did Hades dirty in this match.
Despite hades lack luster powers hes still strong tho
Hades overpowered qin over and over
The same was for Poseidon,Susanoo,Zeus,etc.
Qin Shi Huang's fight was amazing through and through. Definitely my favorite fight so far.
I'm actually glad to have argument.
Here's my take on this fight.
The odds were heavily put in quin shi's favour, to the point that I'd even call this biased.
The fight tells me that hades has all these great achievements, that he has accumulated tons of experience in his long long life... but all that isn't even shown to us. Quin shi used several different techniques to win this fight but hades did the same thing over and over again.
Thrust, thrust, swing, twirl, thrust. That's all he did in this fight besides the blood usage. He didn't even try to use the arena to his advantage. Tell me what's quin shi's breath technique supposed to do when there's a dust cloud obscuring his vision... heck if he had used the simple technique of I'm going to move around and attack you in quick succession, this fight wouldn't have had the same result.
They told us hades is strong, that he took on the titans by himself, but the fight shows us that this is false. They gave us a brief look at hades but dedicated several chapters to quin shi please tell how that isn't biased.
It's supposed to be show don't tell,
Qin used the ultimate move of plot armor
I think Qin is the 3rd strongest human behind maybe Sasaki Kojiro.
I think Qin can defeat any god we’ve seen so far besides Zeus himself and any human we’ve seen so far besides Adam and Kojiro.
We forgetting about Nostradamus feat huh
@@danshido3536 well we don't really know Nostradamus and how will we scale him since he hasn't Fight yet... But I'm really excited to see how strong he'll be since he's pretty hype by Brunhilde for being Humanity's Joker card.
@@lelouchvibritannia1662 Nostradamus will probally be the strongest human fighter and he's gonna fight in round 8 i think
@@danshido3536 I don't think he's gonna be in round 8... I think he'll be saved for much later fights, probably somewhere near the end or even the ending fight.
@@lelouchvibritannia1662 Sticking with the anime ending theory tbh
To me, it wasn't an asspull at all, it made sense that Huang could have different weapons since his martial art has different forms and Brunhild had chosen his Valkyrie because it would complement his abilities.
He sounds butthurt that his theory of a tie didn’t pan out.
I think a lot of people just don't understand that Sasaki's Valkyrie's uniqueness isn't the ability to re-volund but rather to have 2 independent volunds since Hrist had 2 personalities.
It is totally different with Alvitr who had the sacrifice a sleeve of the Almighty Spaulder to create the sword.
@@minius8514 volunds as a whole are kinda weird and up to interpretation, jack also had 2 gloves while hlokk's ability was to turn random stuff into divine weapons
How is it an ass pull to have a re-Volund into a sword when we’ve seen re-volund before and we knew that there was a sword form of Chi-you? Wasn’t it initially speculated by the community that his volund would have multiple forms when it was first revealed that there’s multiple points for his style? Why are pretending this wasn’t set up before being used?
@Choir of Bababooeys Well, then Quins Volund is just stronger in nature. Not all Volunds are the same in strength.
We’ve seen re-volund with hrist. Which set up that she had 2 personalities. So 2 different volunds.
Yes we knew there was a sword form. But people are forgetting the fact that Chi you is martial arts. None the other forms involved weapons. Like the halberd or spear.
Not saying it’s a complete Ass pull but in gonna sit and say it was setup. He kinda just volunds again not a big deal though.
@@choirofbababooeys6861 no it wasn’t. That Valkyrie (Hrist) had the ability to use her two personalities at once, not to reforge.
You forgot to mention that he was able to use the air buble ability on the spear cuz hades reinforced it with this life energy aka Chi
I mean if we gonna talk cheat or cheap are we not gonna remember when Zeus head was literally backwards and he just twisted it like nothing
Thor had his secret about Mjolnir, Zeus had his head twist and Adamas form, Sasaki gets a second Volundr, Jack had his schemes, Shiva is pure badassery, and Buddha gets help from Zero. Qin may have his air bubbles, but that takes precision and skill. Try blowing a bubble so strong, it weakens a pressure point on someone.
Zeus a known shapeshifter and strongest greek god arguably the strongest god. Yeah ofc his head being backwards wouldn’t kill him. You can’t put human logic in gods especially in a anime. It’s just annoying that hades only ability was his blood making his attacks stronger.He is the eldest brother king of the underworld. Respected by everyone. To only have really 1 ability and that ability be pretty basic.Zeus thor herc zero and Buddha even shiva had several cool abilities they used.
@@johngona5929 Buddah is the one who makes the volund possible. So him turning Zero into a volund makes a lot of sense.
Without Buddha
We would have no record of ragnarok.....
I think Buddha is so fat Top 3 strongest
Hajun vs Hades?
Hajun was way more impressive.
That’s only because he was a pretty hard counter for Buddha for a while there. His prowess is not on the level of any of the three brother of Olympus. A solid Persephone: titan and Hajun is cleaved in two. Poseidon does the 40 day flood move and it’s over. One time surpassing punch and hajun is done.
@@INSIDIUS44 in the Manga Hades is not impressed by Hajun at all and people put Hades above Hajun. Hades is definitely stronger than Hajun
Well,it was obvious that author favoured qin. So he gave qin everything and gave hades almost nothing.
I think Hades had to lose look his making all the greek gods lose and i bet all the Norse gods will win Odin will over take Zues who has been weaken
@@williamlaney7208 I mean. Maybe. But we've only seen one Norse god fight atm
I don't know about u but I don't wanna die
They don't want the Chinese people hating on the show, y'know. 🐧
@@ashliana1357 Taiwan.
I'm sorry, SPARE MY FAMILY AAAA-
Qin Shi won because his divine weapon got a pride month buff
Fucking dead🤣💀bro I’m just waiting for the next round knoe and who is gonna fight mad hype for this🥵🥶
this was an incredible winning strategy by qin if we think about it. Qin realized that he couldn't defeat hades by one martial art form, so he used a strategy that utilizes a three-hit kill combo: armor technique to neutralize his opponents attack for a moment, sword technique to disable his support, and spear technique to break his defense therefore leaving himself vulnerable.
Qin Shi Huang's introduction was badass
Hitting Desmos with the air bullet is quite unexpected in the first read and that killed hades off..
Nice !!
Zeus: Apollo get in there in win one for us (kick him like a football in the ring)
Apollo is one of the most powerful Greek Gods besides Hades, I think he will be brought in and kill a human.
So glad scrolling through UA-cam and taht was just in the thumbnail was very exited for this fught
TBH, my favourite fight was Jack Vs Hercules.
Still mystified as to why Hercules was fighting for the Gods. Doesn't fit with the legends or that of this particular Hercules, they should've used Gilgamesh (invincible Sumerian king, born of living Gods (Demi while alive, full Gods after death)).
I know im late, but it was hinted from almost the start of the fight that Huang would get a sword. That 5 point star that showed up behind him the 1st few times he used the heavenly defense had a different fighting weapon at each point of the star. Armor, bow, spear, sword, halberd
I guess we’ll have to wait and see
As a Huang fan here’s how I would rank the humans in terms of power
(Buddha doesn’t count his a god
Adam scales to his opponent so it’s weird to rank him)
1. Prep time Kojiro
2. Lu Bu
3. Qin shi huang
(Interchangeable honestly)
4. No prep time kojiro
5. Raiden
5. Jack Ze Ripper
Honourable mention: Nikola (not enough data currently)
The reason I placed Raiden so low was bc I was basing this off of no volund
Volund massively buffs raiden by giving him perfect control over his muscles
The Fight was 5/10. Completely one sided and Hades wasnt even the focus of his own backstory.
I generally think, Record of Ragnarok often isn't as clever or as cunning as it likes to think it is as, broadly speaking, it is a series of 1v1 fights with a lot of handwavium as to what is or isn't possible as a divine weapon. It doesn't benefit from extended character arcs, as once the character has fought once, they are unlikely to be revisited again without a major change in the status quo. So yeah, by its very premise, it is limited to what they can do, as even Jack's antics wouldn't have been possible without Hercules expressly agreeing to it.
Its main strength, however, is telling a long story about a character in a condensed period. The battle is arguably their greatest triumph or tragedy and explains everything leading up to that point. As a series of short stories featuring characters in history? It's solid. Haung is a man who is incredibly resourceful and determined and shows that, despite being completely overpowered by Hades using his life force, he could also directly target that life force to completely overwhelm Hades for a second. Makes sense, it was a moment being built up throughout the fight by targeting Hade's ki points, thus when he invested his lifeforce into his weapon there was a path available that only Huang could follow.
What I really want to see at some point is, one way or another, for a God or Human to get completely crushed. At the moment, the series has stuck to it's formula thus far without any major upsets.
There will definitely be upsets as the end of Ragnarok nears and things get more desperate.
Fights are already getting progressively crazier. The Tesla/Belzeebub fight is such a fight.
Buddha changing sides. And Siegfried will probably enter the roster.
I really am curious about some of the future fights, Odin's fight is definitely going to be crazy , while at the same time rasputin , Nostradamus, simo hayha and okita are what jm also excited for
Lol Poseidon got done worse......He literally didn't even have any special moves.....
And he's the God of the seas.....
And they were surrounded by water......
Fax. I love RoR but I always thought Poseidon and Zeus could've done more with their elemental abilities. They did the Greek bros dirty.
this is probably the only fight where both human and god contender are chad as hell.
wtf you talking about "only"
Lu Bu vs Thor
Raiden vs Shiva
Favorite fight at the moment
They did hades way too dirty
Really good fight but yeah I think it should've been the first draw. But ngl the Greek Brothers have been pretty underwhelming. Zeus didn't use any lightning powers, Poseidon didn't control the water at all, and Hades claps an army of giants in his backstory but has a weak power up. (Even tho it's a dope concept and it looked cool af)
To be fair, Poseidon thought that a human - _any_ human - was unworthy of his true power, and Zeus' whole lightning theme was portrayed more metaphorically (being as fast as lightning and such), but I getcha.
Ikr, I can get behind Poseidon losing because of his arrogance but, Zues has to win even without his Divine weapon and to add to that he got transformation and time stop punch and shizz. IMO they did Hades dirty. His power is to buff his weapon which still got destroyed which is lame.
bruh did you literally forget about his entrance to the arena
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 none of the God's have really used too much magic anyway, it's mainly straight up skill combined with some supernatural aspects in this manga
IMO they also kind of do Ares dirty by portraying the God of War as some relatively weak Jock.
Though I'm taking this manga as second degree so that's fine.
And also, the Greeks themselves did not like Ares very much and he was constantly humbled by the other Gods in Greek mythos.
One major very powerful Greek God that we haven't seen in the manga is Apollo, who is one of the most important Gods in the pantheon and the most worshipped one along with Athena (also missing).
Qin likely won against hades and he could deflect the energy of attack, and also had a huge brain. While hades couldn’t deflect attacks energy back at the opponent and best stat is strength, which Qin could easily deflect back with one shot. Edit: If you don’t understand how Qin made ares fly is because when ares hit Qin, Qin deflected the attack back, making Ares fly
If I'm being completely honest... I somehow feel that god of highschool is more believable then this, with it's depiction of deities.
Their arrival left the entire world in ruins. The people of that world had borrowed power from several different mythologies and folklore such as jack ripper, Hercules, thor, etc...
I'm just saying that God of highschool is more believable then this. This epic, but major asspulls like this leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
@@ultrastormvalentine5483 I don't think it's "asspull" but how else would you be able to make humanity win against the gods? Of course the gods have to be weaker than they are in mythology or else it wouldn't even be an entertaining series. I think the way they justify humanity standing up to the gods is cool with Valkyries lending them their power.
Hades was really done dirty
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15/10 2nd best fight of the whole manga🐐
I like how they got the first emperor of China Qin Shi Huang looking like hes from a rock boy band lol
i have a feeling that one of the fight will be a 2v2 i dont know who will take part but if i had to guess it would be tesla&simo vs apollo&susano'o
Interesting theory
He just defeated the God of underworld
Meh. I think if you consider Qin's pitiful background, his ability to take on the pain of others, and as such his technique is wholly defensive.. then "the best defense is a strong offense" transition to a sword makes since as it still implies a defensive posturing in-line with the character. However I think it could have been illustrated differently to show the armour transform to cover less of his body.
Ok but like the fact hades beat all the titans in Tartarus compared to qin beating 1 demon? Like those were all the big bads besides chronos he took em down single handedly not saying he shouldave won but it really made it seem like that was gonna be the outcome in my opin
Qin the chad emperor
This fight was crazy ima give it a 9
i wanted qin to win because it was too obv for hades to win
Nah its actually obv that Qin is going to win because of the Odin and Beelzebub panel and Odin plan
@@danshido3536 that was a mistranslation
beelzebub said hades will win
@@Shicomogs I'm not talking about that spoiler moment. I'm talking when Odin confront Beelzebub and then Beelzebub was like intrigued. We basically know that Hades and the Greek gods are gonna lose.
+ Loki was dissapointed when Adam flowed first meaning that ragnarok is all apart of Nordic god plan
@@danshido3536
Hades is stronger is basically every way
10/10 the fight was amazing. I don't care about the whole "sword out of nowhere" it was badass.
Best fight so far for me, both characters have lovable personalities, both are really good looking characters, both aren't about talking stupid unnecessary things and both respect eachother the more the fight went on. I can see why half or so of people wanted Hades to win but humanity is obviously the choice, couple of good gods aren't enough to overweigh the amount of ego gods the show has.
I can’t wait to see the next fight. Maybe it will be a sniper vs a sniper fight.
I knew it Qin Shi Huang will have the Volund Goujian Sword to Defeat Heades.
About Qin Shi Huang:his real name is Ying Zheng.
To be perfectly fair, qin looking hades dead in the eyes before killing him should've killed him as well
The man literally took all of hades attacks and his own attacks as well so double the damage and just survived due to sheer will (which is a very lazy way to win a fight by playing the "well guess he had more will in him!" card)
I mean, bro was legitimately about to collapse but he stabbed the sword into the ground to stabilize himself. He has an insanely high pain tolerance like pretty much everyone we’ve seen fight. Lu Bu didn’t show any signs of pain after losing his arms, Adam literally fights even after death, Zeus just shrugged off his head turning 180 degrees, Jack impaled himself on purpose, then ripped the damn thing out, not to mention taking the hit straight to the face by the god who put Ares on the back burner so much Zeus came to save him, Sasaki was impaled by Poseidon’s trident, who also lost both his arms, shiva lost three arms brutally, Raiden endured his muscles erupting and contorting until Thrud shaped him up again, Buddha, after losing an eye, being pierced several times by Hajun’s arm-blades, was still able to stroke a victory pose and walk off the arena by himself before getting treatment.
Team Qin all the way. 10/10
For me, it can be anyone to win.
As long as the story is balanced, and give them both equally screen times, dialogs, and longer fight scenes.
Which sadly, is not the case for the 7th round.
They can just make the fight longer after that last clash and do everything as good as Round 5.
have all the backup character cheer for them, Qin has already had enough, so just have Chun Yan cheering on top of her lungs for Qin to notice it, and give him the will to fight, and that's good enough.
Have Hades look at his his bident remind him of Poseidon, Have a one page flashback of his shock reaction about the news of Poseidon's death.
Have Zeus and Adamas do the " Don't you dare lose, You are our big brother. " dialog.
And make up a new powerful move or use Poseidon's move in respect of Poseidon.
And this fight will be perfect
My second favourite fight personally
Idek the second I saw Qin’s Design I instantly wanted him to win and him so badly but I do agree with keeping the outcome the same I wish Hades had more unique attacks because it felt like a similar Poseidon which I understand that’s why he’s fighting but I still feel like he could’ve had a more unique style
We knew from the beginning a sword was a mode for Qin so idk where the bullshit line is from
Qin won mostly because of his hax and tbh the author went all out for Qin but Hades got no shine whatsoever
we have a 3rd fight where the fight was won on humans side via a sword being suddenly summoned
Notice how all the Greek gods are dying, but none of the Norse. Odin is up to something
Loki vs Nostradamus sounds crazy but i'll pay money for it.
He actually shot his air bubble at Hades spear because Hades blood brought his divine weapon to life so it worked on the weapon
I personally think that is going to come down to 6 to 6 on both sides and come down to the last two fighters, so we can see all 13 on both sides and I think the gods are going to win that final match but end up deciding to let humanity live after being impressed by humanity's resolve, strength and potential
This should have had 2 different endings
Since Persephone didn't appear obviously hades would lose
Jokes aside this probably my second-third favorite
I wonder what Persephone would look like in this manga. But then again, we haven’t seen Hera either. I think only Shiva’s wives were shown.
Persephone is locked in Hell according to Mythos lol.
Offense being called the best defense is literally said in basketball all the time
The lord of the underworld Hades vs the Black Knight Guts!
Spoiler title thanks man
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Because I am love Hedes I think this should of been a draw
hades should of won
Aries is still the strongest
Adam:am I a joke to u🗿
Still trash, got bodied three times in a single chapter.
@@shadagoat4500 Adam lose to Shiva if they fought
@@danshido3536 not true
@@fatebags Shiva Tandava Karma can burn Divine Weapon.
Here's what i mean: When Raiden punch Tandava Karma Shiva his Arm literally melt off. Keep in mind Raiden whole body is his Divine Weapon. I can't see anyway that Adam can counter againt's that
It’s just crazy all three brothers who are kings loss. Not trying to be that person but broooooo.
Well I don't get it anymore. They really do hate the Greek Gods like I haven't seen Poseidon, Zeus and Hades using their real powers. Is this downgrade intentional? When I saw the 2nd episode I knew that I should drop this. Probably humans will be winning at the end with plot armors
Till now almost every Greek God hast lost, I get the feeling they're not the authors favorite pantheon
Not zeus
@@mysteriousweeb oh yeah my bad, totally forgot him
@@pylone2550 You were right the first time. You used the word "almost" which immediately indicates even to someone who hasn't heard of, read or watched RoR that there are some Greek gods who have won their matches (in this case Zeus).
I think last Greek God on the roster is Apollo, which we haven't seen yet.
He used niko style demons bane
I honestly was happy that Qin won i just think Hades was a better written Poseidon but that was it. Nothing against those who like Hades i just liked Qin better.
I feel like the Valkyrie turn to do a sword and that’s just fine because he’s able to use a sword I think all of them might have disability it’s just why would they use it it’s not like Lu Bu also uses a different type of weapon know he’s best at using that specific weapon the thing that was strange was that The swordsman guy turned his one Valkyrie into two swords edit I also think with Rasputin versus Anubis that one’s going to be a draw as Rasputin will make the fight last something like a day so they’ll go like this is taking too long fight over no one wins
Didn’t Lu Bu lose his arms when his weapon was broken?
@@ExcuseMyWeebRudeness yes but that’s Not important
Im almost certain the final battle will be leonidas vs odin
@@abrahamsilfen9763 it probably will be because if the He gets 2 Valkyries then that’ll probably be the main two
tbh i honestly wanted Hades to win the fight hes s intresting to all of the other gods and i liked him more than probably anyone in the series excpt for buddha he was so cool
The weird part about this chapter is Loki is in some room we can't tell what room he's in.. what if he did something to buddha
He is the God of trickery so what if he can use the bodies of his foes in some ways
I’m still can’t believe it
7 matches gods lost 4 and 3 are greek gods?
Poseidon never used anything water related during the fight, nor did Zeus with his lightning, and Hades needs to use his blood for a power up... Lol
Hades lost because the writer wrote it
Battle of the gigachads
Strength doesn’t mean anything when it comes to technique. Qin was basically the underdog in every category. Gods didn’t think his technique was important underestimated it and was very critical in his win. And your explaining his win wrong. He caught it with the sword because the sword amplified his technique which hints offense is the best defense and he didn’t hit hades with his air bubble he hit hades divine Weapon’s “star” which severally weakened the weapon not hades the weapon that’s why the he was able to split hades divine weapon. However hades pierced his divine armor because of his blood and brute strength. Before his blood was in the fray hades was getting beat By just defense.
Bruh the Greek gods stay getting hoed. They have lost alot of their boys so far in the tournament. They lost Posiden to Kojiro who decided to divide his body up and subtract his soul from the population. Hercules got murked by Jack by getting his chest speard. Now they lost Hades to Qin.....the gods need to step it up
the best fight in the serie no cap