Bilattice IS OUT! - The New Evolution of Rule Discovery Games

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  • Опубліковано 2 тра 2024
  • Bilattice Part 2 - This is the next rule discovery, grid-based puzzle game, similar to Taiji or The Witness, with meta twists and new symbols. As a rule discovery puzzle game you have to figure out the meaning of the symbols as its own puzzle.
    In this part, a few more symbols are introduced and shown!
    Part 1: • Bilattice is the Next ...
    Playlist: • Bilattice
    0:00 Intro
    0:22 Numbers (?)
    0:34 Numbers (They count the size of the region)
    4:25 Plus and Minuses (?)
    4:45 Plus and Minuses (One plus and one minus)
    5:10 Mixed Together
    7:09 Arrows (?)
    7:47 The Real Rule (clarifying an interaction with pluses and minuses)
    8:42 Arrow Explanation
    11:26 Diagonals
    13:07 Movable Plus
    13:47 TEASER of Double Arrows
    14:16 Eyes
    15:25 Eyes + Numbers + Plusminuses
    16:11 THE EDGE (New Mechanic: Squares)
    18:25 New Mechanic: The Plot Thickens
    19:24 My Idea Is Incorrect
    20:25 Numbers and Hexagons
    20:52 Eyes and Hexagons
    21:23 Golden Hexagons
    23:28 Jigsaw
    23:38 ALL SQUARES
    24:50 ALL HEXAGONS
    27:02 Arrows Involved Finale
    Feel free to pause when watching in case you want to figure the rules yourself.
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    Site: www.starmapsllc.com/bilattice
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  • @starmapsllc
    @starmapsllc 9 місяців тому +22

    Great video Icely. Really fun to watch you work through this. Seems you're still flying through it, can't wait to see you try the challenge(s).
    (Fyi, if you didn't notice, you can now right click to mark cells as empty.)

  • @Probba
    @Probba 9 місяців тому +48

    Shape: Hexagon
    Level Name: Six Sides
    Icely: "Broken rectangles"

    • @aquaquartz
      @aquaquartz 9 місяців тому +13

      Hex Battle Advanced

    • @JustAnotherCommenter
      @JustAnotherCommenter 9 місяців тому +5

      Well they look like broken rectangles with a cut-off corner but the perimeter of the shape is always 6

    • @Bob-bt4vw
      @Bob-bt4vw 8 місяців тому +1

      @@JustAnotherCommenter 🤓 Umm…. Ackshually, the number of sides is 6, not the perimeter.

  • @crimtaineCUS
    @crimtaineCUS 9 місяців тому +40

    The hexagons seem to require the shape of its area to have exactly 6 sides.

  • @PolishProgrammer
    @PolishProgrammer 9 місяців тому +7

    "It has some very good and cursed mechanics" and I was already sold

  • @lilipines
    @lilipines 9 місяців тому +4

    I love how you're doing the +/- shenanigans while I just associate it with charge and wish I could afford this game (I am actually broke)

  • @drdca8263
    @drdca8263 9 місяців тому +9

    Hypothesis as to the fundamental structure of how it evaluates whether a property is satisfied:
    For each symbol, it determines the set of tiles reachable starting from the symbol on that tile, and then evaluates whether that region satisfies the rule associated with that symbol.
    This seems like it should be very nice internally, like, as far as the code goes.
    Based on what tiles are marked , and the locations of any movable symbols, you compute a directed graph (which is a subgraph of the connectivity graph of the squares)
    Then, for each symbol, compute the region associated with it, from this directed graph we just obtained, using floodfill.
    Then, look up the rule associated with the symbol, and evaluate it on the region (which returns whether or not the rule is satisfied, and for some rules also an indicator number)
    I imagine the code for this game, at least the part for the overall structure of evaluating whether the puzzle is solved, to be very nice.
    Of course, a number of the rules that are to be evaluated are not purely a property of the graph structure, but they don’t need to be in order for this algorithm to work, which, I think is kind of part of the beauty of it?
    It applies the abstraction where the abstraction is fully applicable, but draws the boundary at just where it really needs the abstraction to apply, allowing the “does this computed region satisfy this rule” to completely disregard the digraph structure.

    • @starmapsllc
      @starmapsllc 9 місяців тому +4

      That's about exactly right. Writing the code for symbol checking was my favorite part of development behind level/mechanic design.

    • @Zen-1331
      @Zen-1331 4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think this would work for the pink numbers because they are not based on the current tiles

  • @livek1238
    @livek1238 9 місяців тому +10

    You know Icely make music
    We are waiting for Chess Battle Advanced: The song

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому +3

      Icely Battle Advanced 2

    • @gamerhurley
      @gamerhurley 9 місяців тому

      ​@@teamruddy611hi

  • @dazcar2203
    @dazcar2203 9 місяців тому +5

    Complicated Bilattice Amendments

    • @jerecakes1
      @jerecakes1 9 місяців тому +2

      i love you
      ...r parody of the overly used _______ battle advanced joke

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому +3

      @@jerecakes1 icely battle advanced 5

    • @dazcar2203
      @dazcar2203 9 місяців тому +2

      @@jerecakes1 Cheers, Bona fide Appreciation

    • @gamerhurley
      @gamerhurley 9 місяців тому

      ​@@teamruddy611hi

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому

      @@gamerhurley hi.

  • @faszrider4072
    @faszrider4072 9 місяців тому +1

    24:50 “and, now we have to deal with hexagons” noice

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому +1

      icely battle advanced 4

    • @dabster291
      @dabster291 9 місяців тому

      hexagons are the bestagons

    • @gamerhurley
      @gamerhurley 9 місяців тому

      ​@@teamruddy611hi

  • @GenTheFurredArtist
    @GenTheFurredArtist 8 місяців тому

    Even with all the explanation, I STILL don't understand the arrows. Holy crap, my head hurts.

  • @teamruddy611
    @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому +2

    There are 6 "Icely Battle Advanced" pieces of text around the comment section - go find them and reply here to let me know you found them all.
    (if you get stuck reply here saying which ones you couldn't find)

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому

      Icely Battle Advanced 6

    • @charleswillhite5375
      @charleswillhite5375 9 місяців тому +1

      This is easy when there aren't many comments.

    • @calarquist3617
      @calarquist3617 9 місяців тому

      There sre two 1, just saying

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому

      @@calarquist3617 ??? You missing reply 2???

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому

      @@charleswillhite5375 next time there will be 10 or more!

  • @HoiBro
    @HoiBro 9 місяців тому +4

    Bilattice Battle Advanced

    • @teamruddy611
      @teamruddy611 9 місяців тому +1

      icely battle advanced

    • @gamerhurley
      @gamerhurley 9 місяців тому

      ​@@teamruddy611hi

    • @pvzpokra8602
      @pvzpokra8602 2 місяці тому

      i read "bilattice" as "bilattle"

  • @charleswillhite5375
    @charleswillhite5375 9 місяців тому +2

    This seems like a harder version of Understand.

    • @starmapsllc
      @starmapsllc 9 місяців тому +1

      Having played understand, in my opinion, understand is a good bit harder haha

  • @Khusyasy
    @Khusyasy 9 місяців тому

    1:18 interesting pattern

  • @trungkienvu1126
    @trungkienvu1126 9 місяців тому

    cool

  • @Epsi_Cron
    @Epsi_Cron 9 місяців тому +2

    Dementia Battle Uh Uhm Uh Y’know Uh Uhhhhhhmmmm Uh wait i forgot the battle uh uhm uh…

  • @gdhuvban
    @gdhuvban 9 місяців тому +3

    1:18 that shape is kinda SUS

  • @30IYouTube
    @30IYouTube 9 місяців тому

    Sorry I couldn't make a CBA meme

  • @saltypretzels290
    @saltypretzels290 9 місяців тому

    Broken Rectangle Battle Advanced

  • @mynameisjustt
    @mynameisjustt 9 місяців тому +2

    Two things:
    1. Did you just use a Skeppy meme!1?1?!?!?1?
    2. A broken rectangle is a six sided shape.

    • @IcelyPuzzles
      @IcelyPuzzles  9 місяців тому

      what meme
      Chess Battle Advanced

    • @mynameisjustt
      @mynameisjustt 9 місяців тому +1

      @@IcelyPuzzles Japanese symbol for beginner.

    • @starmapsllc
      @starmapsllc 9 місяців тому +1

      In the code, the hexagons are actually treated as rectangles with missing rectangles at the corner haha.

    • @JustAnotherCommenter
      @JustAnotherCommenter 9 місяців тому +1

      @@starmapsllc The perimeter of the shape with a hexagon symbol in its region is always 6.

    • @JustAnotherCommenter
      @JustAnotherCommenter 9 місяців тому +1

      @@mynameisjustt The Japanese symbol for beginner is also a hexagon so it fits as a meme

  • @geeteevee7667
    @geeteevee7667 9 місяців тому

    Rule Battle Advanced

  • @yourlocalcommenter9948
    @yourlocalcommenter9948 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm not commenting "Hi me in the previous video" because of you. Y o u .

  • @SysFan808
    @SysFan808 9 місяців тому +2

    21:16
    that's actually 8 sides

    • @IcelyPuzzles
      @IcelyPuzzles  9 місяців тому

      you are correct lol

    • @starmapsllc
      @starmapsllc 9 місяців тому +1

      I almost added octagons but at a certain point I had to restrain myself.

    • @IcelyPuzzles
      @IcelyPuzzles  9 місяців тому +2

      @@starmapsllc during this video I was thinking "why don't you have triangles or stars to extend this idea" then thunked a bit more and realized its impossibility (in a square grid anyway) lol

    • @starmapsllc
      @starmapsllc 9 місяців тому

      ​@@IcelyPuzzles i think a star would work in theory. If it has 10 sides you could make a 10-sided shape out of a square grid p sure.

    • @IcelyPuzzles
      @IcelyPuzzles  9 місяців тому +1

      @@starmapsllc I was thinking like a 5 pointed star = 5, although I could see how a star maps to a 10-sided shape
      chess battle advanced

  • @vomitdoll2001
    @vomitdoll2001 9 місяців тому

    lattice battle advanced

  • @crystalfox_gamingtm
    @crystalfox_gamingtm 9 місяців тому +2

    I know its only 5 euro Im still too broke to buy the game like fuck me (im not blaming the devs btw(if it sounds like that)) but if the game came out 2 weeks earlier I could have bought it

  • @nif4345
    @nif4345 9 місяців тому +1

    do you *understand*?

  • @manIhatethisuser
    @manIhatethisuser 9 місяців тому

    1:19 not sayin anything

  • @U20E0
    @U20E0 9 місяців тому

    Decnavda elttab ssehc

    • @IcelyPuzzles
      @IcelyPuzzles  9 місяців тому

      Chess Battle Advanced

    • @U20E0
      @U20E0 9 місяців тому

      @@IcelyPuzzles
      e96--T32++:6LTc5[2/465L