Just made a 8”x10” blurb trade book for my daughter’s 18 birthday. About 20 photos (i.e. 20 pages) per year, turned out to be a book of 396 pages. I had a total of about 12000 photos of her over 18 years, first edited it down to about 350 per year and then down to 20 per year. I had to kill plenty of darlings. Anyway, the result is marvelous and a trade book with color photos looks great (and costs, only, $64).
Dan I finished my first book on Blurb in 2022 and my first Zine earlier this year after taking a class with Jennifer Spellman at SFW. Since then I have been focused much more on projects rather than just the individual great image. I still do some of that but what motivates me with my photography is working on projects and doing something with them. Your content from your site and that on Blurb has been very helpful to me. I appreciate all the wonderful ideas and the examples you showed of your own work here were very beneficial.
Definitely on the personal history book. It’s gonna take at least 4 for me. I’m currently working on a book that chronicles my work history going back to high school. Sketches and Stuff.
Loved every piece of advice in this video, especially COLLABORATION which really resonated with what I had in my mind! Great to be having the longer duration of videos. Thank you for creating!
If W Eugene Smith were alive today he'd be making his own magazines via Blurb! Thanks Dan another great inspiring video! I tried mags after watching another vid and people LOVE them! I am off to boot up BookWright RIGHT NOW!
When I found your channel through AYP a few months ago it was right around the time I decided I would be a 35mm Film photographer and that would be my M.O. I got a nice scanner, and was scanning my own film when I found a bunch of old negatives from my family’s photo albums. So I decided to practice sequencing and editing, that I would make a magazine on those film scans! It’s good practice
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Glad to hear it. I've been bingeing your videos this week and have been inspired to make a book. I have a longer term vision for a project, but plenty of family archive to get started on as practice. 2 birds. 1 stone.
Just ordered a swatch and downloaded Bookwright. Can’t wait to bring my frankenphoto creation to life. I was calling for the deuce, but you brought the heater. Love the videos, keep them coming!
Brilliant and having a few books made at Blurb in the past I’m going to try a project I have had on the go for a while in magazine form - will let you know how it works out.
You are the ONLY person from UT I've communicated with since 1992. I find it hilarious. Wait, I did give a talk once, for Eli Reed, but that was probably 20 years ago. I wonder if the PJ program is still alive?
@@DANIELMILNOR505 the Journalism programs are still alive. Eli Reed still around. I teach in Architecture, also a creative endeavor and I find your work and content ad hoc for our students. Keep up the good work and stop by if you ever get back to Austin!
@@ibarrabenjamin1 Wow. Had no idea. Amazing to me that I managed to avoid all coms from the school dating back to 1992. And I'm a fairly public guy. I must have really burned that bridge. I get back from time to time as I have fam in TX.
Thoughts and prayers for your X-T2. I hope it (and your neck) recovers. If it doesn't, you may enjoy playing with temperature in B&W photo and video with an X-T3.
Just ordered a 120 page b&w trade book, using Bookwright. Finally beat the inertia! Broke the eggs. Didn’t like the line spacing though, so dropped all text and just made a photo book. The page management and fluidity of the application is great (I’ve been using inDesign for years but Bookwright is fun, if that’s the right word).
You know how if photographers talk at all about the gear they used to take a particular photo, or even talk about gear at all, then they’re amateurs? Well, if people go out to ride a bike, and they take the perfectly good peddles off their cranks and replace them with these contraptions that clip into special, over-priced shoes, and, even though these things clip in, they call them clipless, then they’re kind of amateur bike riders. I mean, just throw your leg over the bar and ride the bike! If you push down with one foot and don’t fight that gesture with the other foot, then things will just keep spinning. I know, this is some tough love and I hope you can take it. I think you can! I believe in you, Dan!
All fine and dandy until you ride major mountains. I live at 7000 feet and routinely ride to over 10,000 feet. Climbing is where the clip is worth its weight in gold. Efficiency and consistency of power. Also, rides of over forty miles are also where I see a difference. Around town, short rides, flat, etc. Flat pedals all the way. I do know a lot of mountain bikers who have switched in recent years but with mountain biking it makes perfect sense.
Quick tip. Use one of those mirrors that our girls have o the bathroom for makeup... you know the ones that magnify the reflection? Put one of those behind the camera facing you and BAHM... instant "external monitor" ;)
I came across you through a podcast here in the UK a few weeks ago and have spent the last couple of days watching some of your videos. You've given me so much to think about - probably best done lying down in a darkened room! But I need to get some of my work off the hard drive into print - just for me - and hadn't thought of the magazine format, so thanks for that. And your long term project videos.... Sorry to see you have Lyme's - ticks are a massive problem here in the Scottish Highlands and we're all very aware of the consequences of a tick bite. Unfortunately, not all infected bites give the bull's eye rash and doctors won't routinely test for Lyme's if you've had a bite, you have to wait for symptoms to present. I had PVFS many years ago so have an inkling of what you are experiencing, especially the invisible illness bit. You look ok so you must be ok!
Lynn, good to know. I have not yet been to Scotland but it's on my list. ONce symptoms arrive, typically, it's almost too late. That Lyme bacteria will be fully entrenched. Docs do the same here, sometimes worse. Magazine is the sleeper format. You will enjoy it.
I print some of my photos but after watching a couple of your videos I decided to make a photo book. I received the book today in the mail with the AG23 zine I ordered a couple of days ago.
I remember spending entire nights editing shots for my first client and finally upon asking him what he thought of the editing he said, “oh, did you edit them...” I think we as photographers get too hung up on this sometimes.
Hi, I'm interested in improve my sequencing skills. Are there any resources for learning and improving that? Maybe uncle Dan could help us with some tips, books, websites , etc. I also have a growing interest in learning something about graphic design to improve my skill in book design. 😊 Thanks Dan and Merry Christmas
Graphic design books are numerous. Sequencing books...much more difficult to find. Elena and I are building an online class that will touch on the sequencing quite a lot. But I'll start building a list of resources.
awesome video!! make one talking about how to biuld an infrastructure to publish books!! huge fan! hope you read this! sincerely, Guilherme, from Brazil
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Yes! From getting Contacts to publish your work to doing it on your own. Because here we dont have blurb, etc to make it easier, so how can we build this Little publishing empire? just though it would be a nice video... sincerely, Guilherme, from Brazil
Hi Dan! Really enjoyed this. I've made a bunch of test publications from Blurb these past few months inspired by your films. Btw, is the "Journal" you mentioned was made using the "Notebook" option with Blurb?
Hey Sarah with an "H." Yes, it sure is. Notebooks are AWESOME. I'm working on mine now right before my next conference call. It does with my everywhere and has held up incredibly well.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 - Haha. I can actually *hear* you say that having listened to all your podcast and watched all your films. Your voice is in my head often. The "Notebook" is a lovely idea and it gives us lots of options to be creative. Thanks Dan! If Blurb can add on their website a few samples of each type of publication and show us what possibilities there are in creating them ... that would be awesome. I keep wanting to see samples of each type of publication ... I'm so visual!
I use both Blurb journals and a range of other offerings. The fountain pen works with most of these. The Moleskine are probably the worst for bleed but still love them. And I'm using a ball point now......believe it or not. But, for a variety of reasons.
hey Dan! You've made videos saying it is not worth being a long term documentary photography project because of the market, however you made other video saying that travel photography works! So with one is it? is it worth being a documentary photographer nowadays or not ? sincerely, Guilherme, from Brazil
Guilherme, I'm not sure how anyone makes a living with photography these days outside of my older friends who work in advertising. But, plenty of people are. I think travel and documentary have to be two of the hardest genres. Me personally, I'd rather do something else for a living and enjoy photography on my own, something I've done for over a decade.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Thanks for the tips Dan, Im starting to get more and more in this world, your videos are inspiring. Could spend the whole day talking about this! I admire your work and your thoughts, hope one Day I'll make it and we can chat more about this world of photography... Sincerely, Guilherme, from Brazil
Can you tell us again the name of the designer for your book Magic City #2? I have listened to the video a dozen times and can't quite get her name. Chloey Ferris???
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I have a vital ethic doubt, I just realised I can cheat by applying a b/w filter to my photos, many will look better, increasing power to elements that didn't actually had it. So, is b/w photos cheating? Am I distorting what really happened in the image? I can't find videos about this topic. Thanks
Hello Daniel, Im cheking videos like yours to help me define my project, could you tell me the audience for your book about Albania? Me myself went to Kosovo (Albanian) and they were so happy to tell their story they asked me to spread it so i plan to put photos and explain what I saw and heared, so in your book, without much text, a reader only gets subjective visual information and leaves doubts, for example: Who is the man's statue? a bad or a good guy, a hero? a tyrant? So my question is why to release 5% of the info with those photos and not explain with text? You seem to be exited telling the stories so I think you do it in purpose, but why, to what audience?
There is no audience for this book, and this "book" isn't a book. I was only in Albania for two weeks, so nowhere near enough time to say anything about a country I had never experienced before. This is a small, informal, portfolio at best. Were I to try to do a book about Albania I would need a lot more time and access. And I would need to speak the language or have a full time translator.
Could you see any reason for an amateur photographer to make a book other then his or her vacation photos? I'm not being a troll here. I am an amateur and I just can't think of any reason. I do print the photos I like.
@@DevonMiniFlicks As a pro and you want to show case your work I can see that. But as an amateur I often wonder if that’s the equivalent of showing home movies and your friends Stop coming over because they would be afraid you will show them more. I do want to try and make one and Danial gives plenty of examples on ones he made. His are all great photos and I can see why he does them.
Making a book makes any photographer, amateur or pro, apply critical thought to their work, very unlike moving images around in the digital space. Making a book also forces you to learn things like editing, sequencing and page design, not to mention things like typography and materials. So yes, there are numerous reasons to make books, Zines, etc. And its fun!
@@DANIELMILNOR505 A great answer to the question I asked. I'll Do it!! I got to say I've watched a lot of your films as you call them and you Sir. are very informative. I love the no gear and all photography style. Keep these films coming.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Yeah I have a book "Ansel Adams 400 Photographs" and I think that he would not like that book. On the other hand it's cool to see that even masters have "some" not that good images (sorry for bad english)
Just made a 8”x10” blurb trade book for my daughter’s 18 birthday. About 20 photos (i.e. 20 pages) per year, turned out to be a book of 396 pages. I had a total of about 12000 photos of her over 18 years, first edited it down to about 350 per year and then down to 20 per year. I had to kill plenty of darlings. Anyway, the result is marvelous and a trade book with color photos looks great (and costs, only, $64).
Fons, you are my hero. That is one major edit. Congratulations, not an easy task. Wow. Well done.
so helpful. so good. taking notes + binge watching over here...
I LOVE making books on Blurb, even for just myself. There is a tangible gratification from seeing a project come to life in print. Cheers!
Me too. Heck, I'd be printing on napkins if I had to.
As a hobbyist, I'm stoked to have found a mentor finally. Lovin' the knowledge bombs !
Cool. That hobbyist badge is a good thing.
You offer the best advice I have found. Thanks again!
Dan I finished my first book on Blurb in 2022 and my first Zine earlier this year after taking a class with Jennifer Spellman at SFW. Since then I have been focused much more on projects rather than just the individual great image. I still do some of that but what motivates me with my photography is working on projects and doing something with them. Your content from your site and that on Blurb has been very helpful to me. I appreciate all the wonderful ideas and the examples you showed of your own work here were very beneficial.
You've finally convinced me to create a test book and I'm glad I did. It's been years since I've printed anything.
Good. Just know it's a skill like anything else. Requires knowledge and practice so be easy on yourself.
Good talk man great ideas!
well said , well done , well made ...
I'll keep it short Dan: P-R-I-C-E-L-E-S-S
Thanks Sergio. Just grinding it out over here in smokey New Mexico.
Made may day, and possibly my future creative life :) Thank you!
If I can make a day I'll take it.
Definitely on the personal history book. It’s gonna take at least 4 for me. I’m currently working on a book that chronicles my work history going back to high school. Sketches and Stuff.
Wow that was intense, but yes I get where you are going. Now I need to go and finish a print project. Thanks.
Loved every piece of advice in this video, especially COLLABORATION which really resonated with what I had in my mind! Great to be having the longer duration of videos. Thank you for creating!
Collaboration is the best. And I've only scratched the surface.
I want that Wanishing Speed so bad! Great content, as always
If W Eugene Smith were alive today he'd be making his own magazines via Blurb! Thanks Dan another great inspiring video! I tried mags after watching another vid and people LOVE them! I am off to boot up BookWright RIGHT NOW!
Man, if he were alive I would be total fanboy. I'd be outside his house with a sign and my face painted. And I'd buy his Blurb mags!
When I found your channel through AYP a few months ago it was right around the time I decided I would be a 35mm Film photographer and that would be my M.O. I got a nice scanner, and was scanning my own film when I found a bunch of old negatives from my family’s photo albums. So I decided to practice sequencing and editing, that I would make a magazine on those film scans! It’s good practice
The family archive is one of the best things you can use as fodder. I do the same and it feels endless.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Glad to hear it. I've been bingeing your videos this week and have been inspired to make a book. I have a longer term vision for a project, but plenty of family archive to get started on as practice. 2 birds. 1 stone.
Just ordered a swatch and downloaded Bookwright. Can’t wait to bring my frankenphoto creation to life. I was calling for the deuce, but you brought the heater. Love the videos, keep them coming!
I want to announce my presence with authority.........
Brilliant as usual!…
Brilliant and having a few books made at Blurb in the past I’m going to try a project I have had on the go for a while in magazine form - will let you know how it works out.
Awesome Daniel! Great video, very inspirational!. Greetings from UT Austin.
You are the ONLY person from UT I've communicated with since 1992. I find it hilarious. Wait, I did give a talk once, for Eli Reed, but that was probably 20 years ago. I wonder if the PJ program is still alive?
@@DANIELMILNOR505 the Journalism programs are still alive. Eli Reed still around. I teach in Architecture, also a creative endeavor and I find your work and content ad hoc for our students. Keep up the good work and stop by if you ever get back to Austin!
@@ibarrabenjamin1 Wow. Had no idea. Amazing to me that I managed to avoid all coms from the school dating back to 1992. And I'm a fairly public guy. I must have really burned that bridge. I get back from time to time as I have fam in TX.
Thoughts and prayers for your X-T2. I hope it (and your neck) recovers.
If it doesn't, you may enjoy playing with temperature in B&W photo and video with an X-T3.
Nope. Someone has a new camera on the way. Not Fuji. But will probably end up with XT4 at some point.
Just ordered a 120 page b&w trade book, using Bookwright. Finally beat the inertia! Broke the eggs. Didn’t like the line spacing though, so dropped all text and just made a photo book. The page management and fluidity of the application is great (I’ve been using inDesign for years but Bookwright is fun, if that’s the right word).
Colin, good to hear. Glad you gave it a go.
Received my trade book a couple of days ago. Super-impressed by it. Clearing some shelf space for some more. Thanks for the inspiration!
You know how if photographers talk at all about the gear they used to take a particular photo, or even talk about gear at all, then they’re amateurs? Well, if people go out to ride a bike, and they take the perfectly good peddles off their cranks and replace them with these contraptions that clip into special, over-priced shoes, and, even though these things clip in, they call them clipless, then they’re kind of amateur bike riders. I mean, just throw your leg over the bar and ride the bike! If you push down with one foot and don’t fight that gesture with the other foot, then things will just keep spinning. I know, this is some tough love and I hope you can take it. I think you can! I believe in you, Dan!
All fine and dandy until you ride major mountains. I live at 7000 feet and routinely ride to over 10,000 feet. Climbing is where the clip is worth its weight in gold. Efficiency and consistency of power. Also, rides of over forty miles are also where I see a difference. Around town, short rides, flat, etc. Flat pedals all the way. I do know a lot of mountain bikers who have switched in recent years but with mountain biking it makes perfect sense.
Quick tip. Use one of those mirrors that our girls have o the bathroom for makeup... you know the ones that magnify the reflection? Put one of those behind the camera facing you and BAHM... instant "external monitor" ;)
Shazam!
Dude, you are getting pro youtuber 8) great, got inspired, got idea, and blurb is all the way in states inspite of EU.. that's a bummer..
We print out of Europe too. We have global print ops so got you covered. Don't forget about MagCloud too.
I came across you through a podcast here in the UK a few weeks ago and have spent the last couple of days watching some of your videos. You've given me so much to think about - probably best done lying down in a darkened room! But I need to get some of my work off the hard drive into print - just for me - and hadn't thought of the magazine format, so thanks for that. And your long term project videos....
Sorry to see you have Lyme's - ticks are a massive problem here in the Scottish Highlands and we're all very aware of the consequences of a tick bite. Unfortunately, not all infected bites give the bull's eye rash and doctors won't routinely test for Lyme's if you've had a bite, you have to wait for symptoms to present. I had PVFS many years ago so have an inkling of what you are experiencing, especially the invisible illness bit. You look ok so you must be ok!
Lynn, good to know. I have not yet been to Scotland but it's on my list. ONce symptoms arrive, typically, it's almost too late. That Lyme bacteria will be fully entrenched. Docs do the same here, sometimes worse. Magazine is the sleeper format. You will enjoy it.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 thanks will look up the sleeper format. And btw, I would do a workshop with you so will look out for word on Albania next year :)
I did my first zine.
I print some of my photos but after watching a couple of your videos I decided to make a photo book. I received the book today in the mail with the AG23 zine I ordered a couple of days ago.
Alright! Two good things.
I remember spending entire nights editing shots for my first client and finally upon asking him what he thought of the editing he said, “oh, did you edit them...” I think we as photographers get too hung up on this sometimes.
And clients aren't often skilled in the process or skilled at knowing what is good.
Hi, I'm interested in improve my sequencing skills. Are there any resources for learning and improving that? Maybe uncle Dan could help us with some tips, books, websites , etc. I also have a growing interest in learning something about graphic design to improve my skill in book design. 😊
Thanks Dan and Merry Christmas
Graphic design books are numerous. Sequencing books...much more difficult to find. Elena and I are building an online class that will touch on the sequencing quite a lot. But I'll start building a list of resources.
awesome video!! make one talking about how to biuld an infrastructure to publish books!!
huge fan! hope you read this!
sincerely,
Guilherme, from Brazil
Hey Brazil, you mean how to create your own little publishing empire?
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Yes! From getting Contacts to publish your work to doing it on your own. Because here we dont have blurb, etc to make it easier, so how can we build this Little publishing empire?
just though it would be a nice video...
sincerely,
Guilherme, from Brazil
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Hi Dan! Really enjoyed this. I've made a bunch of test publications from Blurb these past few months inspired by your films. Btw, is the "Journal" you mentioned was made using the "Notebook" option with Blurb?
Hey Sarah with an "H." Yes, it sure is. Notebooks are AWESOME. I'm working on mine now right before my next conference call. It does with my everywhere and has held up incredibly well.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 - Haha. I can actually *hear* you say that having listened to all your podcast and watched all your films. Your voice is in my head often. The "Notebook" is a lovely idea and it gives us lots of options to be creative. Thanks Dan! If Blurb can add on their website a few samples of each type of publication and show us what possibilities there are in creating them ... that would be awesome. I keep wanting to see samples of each type of publication ... I'm so visual!
This may sound very elemental... I like a medium format look but is it overkill for a magazine?
Nope. That looks transfers to any kind of print. Even small 4x6's.
now let's all stop taking pictures for a moment and start editing!
As the crowd grows quiet.......
hi daniel, just wondering if theres a particular type of paper that your journals in 32:00 that is fountain pen friendly i.e. wont bleed
I use both Blurb journals and a range of other offerings. The fountain pen works with most of these. The Moleskine are probably the worst for bleed but still love them. And I'm using a ball point now......believe it or not. But, for a variety of reasons.
Will there later on be possible to buy, AG23 magazines outside US ?
Yes, eventually. Right now the postal service is in total disarray. And expensive and other issues like distribution are also being impacted by Covid.
hey Dan! You've made videos saying it is not worth being a long term documentary photography project because of the market, however you made other video saying that travel photography works! So with one is it? is it worth being a documentary photographer nowadays or not ?
sincerely,
Guilherme, from Brazil
Guilherme, I'm not sure how anyone makes a living with photography these days outside of my older friends who work in advertising. But, plenty of people are. I think travel and documentary have to be two of the hardest genres. Me personally, I'd rather do something else for a living and enjoy photography on my own, something I've done for over a decade.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Thanks for the tips Dan, Im starting to get more and more in this world, your videos are inspiring. Could spend the whole day talking about this!
I admire your work and your thoughts, hope one Day I'll make it and we can chat more about this world of photography...
Sincerely,
Guilherme, from Brazil
If Blurb doesn't work out (kidding) stand-up comedy might be something to pursue!
You never know....
Can you tell us again the name of the designer for your book Magic City #2? I have listened to the video a dozen times and can't quite get her name. Chloey Ferris???
Yep. www.chloeferres.com.au/ Do not think she is accepting commissions any longer. But, study her work. She is unique.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Thanks a lot. That is exactly what I have on my mind.
11:05 "do you really need to see them in color"? YES, real human see in color, so yes, please use color :) btw thanks for your videos
You never know.....
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I have a vital ethic doubt, I just realised I can cheat by applying a b/w filter to my photos, many will look better, increasing power to elements that didn't actually had it. So, is b/w photos cheating? Am I distorting what really happened in the image? I can't find videos about this topic. Thanks
Hello Daniel, Im cheking videos like yours to help me define my project, could you tell me the audience for your book about Albania? Me myself went to Kosovo (Albanian) and they were so happy to tell their story they asked me to spread it so i plan to put photos and explain what I saw and heared, so in your book, without much text, a reader only gets subjective visual information and leaves doubts, for example: Who is the man's statue? a bad or a good guy, a hero? a tyrant? So my question is why to release 5% of the info with those photos and not explain with text? You seem to be exited telling the stories so I think you do it in purpose, but why, to what audience?
There is no audience for this book, and this "book" isn't a book. I was only in Albania for two weeks, so nowhere near enough time to say anything about a country I had never experienced before. This is a small, informal, portfolio at best. Were I to try to do a book about Albania I would need a lot more time and access. And I would need to speak the language or have a full time translator.
What glasses are those?
Oakley
Could you see any reason for an amateur photographer to make a book other then his or her vacation photos? I'm not being a troll here. I am an amateur and I just can't think of any reason.
I do print the photos I like.
@@DevonMiniFlicks As a pro and you want to show case your work I can see that.
But as an amateur I often wonder if that’s the equivalent of showing home movies and your friends
Stop coming over because they would be afraid you will show them more.
I do want to try and make one and Danial gives plenty of examples on ones he made.
His are all great photos and I can see why he does them.
Making a book makes any photographer, amateur or pro, apply critical thought to their work, very unlike moving images around in the digital space. Making a book also forces you to learn things like editing, sequencing and page design, not to mention things like typography and materials. So yes, there are numerous reasons to make books, Zines, etc. And its fun!
@@DANIELMILNOR505 A great answer to the question I asked. I'll Do it!!
I got to say I've watched a lot of your films as you call them and you Sir. are very informative.
I love the no gear and all photography style. Keep these films coming.
LOL 400 pages book, I need to put some not that good images to make 20 pages book :P
400-pages is a tall order for anyone.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Yeah I have a book "Ansel Adams 400 Photographs" and I think that he would not like that book. On the other hand it's cool to see that even masters have "some" not that good images (sorry for bad english)