WHY ARE MY LOW LIGHT FUJI FILES SO TERRIBLE?

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  • WHY THE HECK ARE MY LOW LIGHT FUJI JPEGS SO WAXY?
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 278

  • @miguellee3
    @miguellee3 5 років тому +34

    Yes, -4 NR all the way! I found this has made a huge impact on on my jpegs. Rather have noise and natural look than wax statues :D

    • @akfisher7138
      @akfisher7138 3 роки тому

      Hi do you keep all your setting on NR -4? I take jpeg and raw, but use jpeg as my starting point for processing, and like to avoid processing (rather shoot)

  • @richardharvey1732
    @richardharvey1732 5 років тому +108

    Hi Omar, much the same applies to Fujifilm raw files in as much as the noise levels appear rather bad in areas of low exposure, this is due to the signal to noise ratio being a fixed property of the sensor and only those parts of the picture having maximum exposure will enjoy the best signal to noise ratio. This means that you have to adjust the exposure of the shot to maximise the levels on the parts of the shot that you want to see, this might mean that some parts of the shot could be over-exposed, bright areas and sky, I am finding that setting my exposure compensation to plus 1 stop, or more will give me much less noise in shadow areas, the histogram on the viewfinder will show blinkies on the Jpeg thumbnail but no blown highlights on the raw file, the is the practice know as ETTR, expose to the right, and is particularly appropriate to Fujifilm cameras. Cheers, Richard.

    • @유도마-v2r
      @유도마-v2r 5 років тому +19

      This comment is the correct answer to the problem raised and how come no one is responding? I thank you for the great tip!

    • @ShootsDenBrah
      @ShootsDenBrah 4 роки тому +2

      thanks so much will try this

    • @carlosdias1940
      @carlosdias1940 3 роки тому

      Highly appreciated. If I just knew this last week!.. Had a tennis tournament where half of the court was in really deep shadow! JPEGs were like.... yes that bad!
      On top I need SS no lower than 2000, I think this type of condition really pushes the XT3 envelope...or assume that there is no 'suits everything camera' and find another (more expensive) solution!
      Thanks Omar for bringing in the subject and Richard for the follow up. The best solution at the time was just to spot metering instead of average. Changing to the other side of the court the camera would go like crazy because of pretty sunny!!! What an experience! Cheers

    • @richardharvey1732
      @richardharvey1732 3 роки тому +2

      @@carlosdias1940 Hi Carlos Dias, So glad to be helpful!, I think spot metering will help you but the system reacts very strongly, one more stable option is the set the exposure compensation dial two thirds to one stop high!, if you combine this with 'blinkies' where over-exposed areas light up as long as those areas have nothing you really want to be seen in the image slight movements of the camera while shooting won't have such a dramatic effect on exposure. These techniques take quite a long time to learn and develop to your satisfaction but basically what you are looking for is images that you want to dial down the exposure slightly in post, that will then give the darker areas the exposure you want with the improved SN ratio!. Cheers, Richard.

    • @carlosdias1940
      @carlosdias1940 3 роки тому

      @@richardharvey1732 Thank you Richard for a swift and thorough reply! Yes! Noticed how 'sensitive' the spot metering reacts on the field! I think I got the picture and that is really appreciated, just by pointing me the direction. Actually I was doing the opposite. Stopping down to work after on post. For sure that I will give it a go.
      Just a thought: I shoot in manual, meaning front dial in C, Set 5, SS2500 above for tennis. So far as I tried Exposure compensation is only available when in Aperture priority...agree? I stop (up or down) using ISO as the first priority to toggle down asap for the obvious reasons.
      I always get that weird look from a couple of friends, why I'm shooting sports with FUJI, when other brands nail every shot. I don't know about that, however, what I do is not to blame on the gear and usually if focus fails (specially after V4 update) is because I have the wrong settings!!!
      Cheers and your help is really appreciated. Willing to follow on IG if you would be able to share. Cheers

  • @RoLLerHel
    @RoLLerHel 5 років тому +23

    feels like we all need default noise reduction to -2 at least... as it doesn't really hurt with lower ISO. thanks for the tips! will play with it.

  • @wojtekw6040
    @wojtekw6040 5 років тому +13

    Who's that guy next to Omar? Oh, it's Superman

  • @raphaeldekadt3427
    @raphaeldekadt3427 5 років тому +19

    Thanks! As a longtime Fujifilm XT shooter (XT-1, XT-2, XT-3) I've also found that two other factors play a role with skin tone in very low light. First, of course, is using the fast prime lenses such as the 56mm f1.2 or 35mm f1.4 wide open. Second, the choice of film simulation can make a significant difference. Both Pro Neg Hi and Pro Neg Std improve IQ over Provia or (worse here!) Velvia. Thanks for sharing your useful tip!

    • @budthecyborg4575
      @budthecyborg4575 3 роки тому

      I've heard multiple people say they prefer Pro-Neg now. Good advice.

  • @Krekkertje
    @Krekkertje 5 років тому +6

    What about the sharpness setting Omar? I tend to keep that at -4 as well, but I have no clue if that does anything to improve the jpeg, since I always use raw files.

  • @strawzinthewind
    @strawzinthewind 5 років тому +22

    Shoot raw and call it a day?

    • @taz24787
      @taz24787 5 років тому

      Yeap, at least when you want to recover info from shadows.

  • @qin1992
    @qin1992 5 років тому +8

    My girlfriend gonna love the +1 NR +1 Sharp JPG, saves the time on editing her skin LOL. BTW, is that Laowa 15mm F/4 on the table? That blue ring really catches my eye.

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +1

      Thomas Qin haha. Just melt her pixels. Yes. Fun lens. I need to start using it more. It’s being neglected

  • @simondc9772
    @simondc9772 5 років тому +4

    Hey Omar! I see you got yourself a copy of Capture One :), Fuji RAWs + C1 = Magic

  • @EEEEMMMMKKKK
    @EEEEMMMMKKKK 5 років тому +5

    I would like to see a how yours Mark 3 or 4 do in situations you just showed. Everybody talking about full frame low light performance but it would be nice to see how much better it is compared to X-T20. I know it's a stupid comparison but anyway :D

  • @-grey
    @-grey 5 років тому +48

    1: stay below 2500 ISO.
    2: manual white balance.
    3: manual shutter speed, don’t trust A.
    4: embrace the shadows, let things get cinematic.

    • @josecolon8143
      @josecolon8143 5 років тому +1

      のぢGrey I totally agree

    • @ferhispano
      @ferhispano 5 років тому +5

      Manual white balance for jpegs, but if raw manual white balance could be optional if that slows down your shooting, sometimes there is jus not time to do all manual

    • @CptSnakeshit
      @CptSnakeshit 5 років тому +4

      Dunno about JPEG: but ISO6400 is fine for RAW with X-T2 IMO as long as it's exposed correctly. I usually use auto-ISO with minimum shutter 1/60-1/500 speed depending on lens / situation

    • @nerwin
      @nerwin 5 років тому +3

      I've got usable shots at ISO 12800, in RAW of course. I'd rather get a noisy image instead of none at all.

    • @chasescooper
      @chasescooper 5 років тому +1

      Yeah agree with all these points I do the same, especially keeping iso as low as possible since it’s just ambient light. I also expose to the highlights and let the darks be dark, then bring up shadows and such later, way more detail that way.

  • @Pir8Pete99
    @Pir8Pete99 5 років тому +4

    Nice tip Omar and I have turned mine to -4 too now....

  • @StarOasis26
    @StarOasis26 4 роки тому +4

    @ 4:09 "Omg look at my egghead." Lol!

  • @nickgoogle4525
    @nickgoogle4525 5 років тому +35

    So with a lower ISO you get better image quality -- not that surprising ;-)

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +6

      Nick Google sometimes you can’t go low. Like when your subjects are people. That move. Lol. 😉

  • @sandrolosi7921
    @sandrolosi7921 5 років тому +2

    Hi Omar! Thanks for the video!
    The ‐4 NR setting applies also for new bodies (xt3/30)? It seems to me that latest processor is more gentle with the noise reduction, so -2 or -3 NR should be ok ... i will appreciate yr feedback in this regard
    Have a niXe day!

  • @bpetrikovics
    @bpetrikovics 5 років тому +5

    So far I've found I don't really want to go anywhere above ISO 1600 on my X-T3 because it just looks awful :(

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому

      That's sad. It may not be a high ISO problem, though. Keep in mind that bad light will ruin even a Iow ISO image. Try the by the window trick I used at 6400. Should be good. Let us know!!

    • @bpetrikovics
      @bpetrikovics 5 років тому

      Well I definitely need to learn a lot about how to shoot in low light. Working on it :)

    • @PatrickOSullivanAUS
      @PatrickOSullivanAUS 5 років тому

      Is that for jpeg or raw, or does not matter?

    • @kevinw7044
      @kevinw7044 5 років тому

      p b g I shoot regularly at high iso on an xt2 with a fast lens and it’s pretty decent.

    • @Murphy252000
      @Murphy252000 5 років тому +2

      @@kevinw7044 snap, never had issues at 1600 or 3200 on xe1, xt1 or xt3 :/

  • @AMomentInTimeProductions
    @AMomentInTimeProductions 3 роки тому +1

    HERE IS A TIP don't shoot in jpeg mode, shoot raw i mean you paid good money for the camera why not get the most out of it.

  • @peter_shadow7559
    @peter_shadow7559 3 роки тому +1

    If you need noise in your life just grab any APSC sensor from Canon.

  • @-grey
    @-grey 5 років тому +3

    My A7II peaked at iso 640 before terrible colour noise set in. It’s why I sold it and got the X-T2. Full frame had a stop advantage of gain noise, and pooped its pants three steps into the race.

    • @elbanaag9355
      @elbanaag9355 5 років тому

      のぢGrey sensor isnt good.. try a73 that's the real deal :) instead of xt3

    • @-grey
      @-grey 5 років тому

      eL banaag I would... but I have been bitten by hype before and I feel a little betrayed by Sony at this point. It was my fault, because I didn’t know better, but ever since I got the X-T2 it became my new standard of quality. Maybe by the a7sIII I’ll see a purpose for Sony again.

    • @elbanaag9355
      @elbanaag9355 5 років тому

      @@-grey a7-2 isnt that great.. sensor is almost the same as the first gen camera. so i wouldn't be surprised.. a72 isnt even a BSI sensor.. a73 is! thats why it can retain so much details even on high iso.. but if you are waiting for a7s3 then that's a real deal.. or you might want to keep an eye to the incoming pansonic lumix FF camera :) 4k60p 10bit recording, probably fully articulated screen which is common to lumix cameras :)

  • @GavinSeim
    @GavinSeim 5 років тому +10

    I rarely shoot only JPEG but for low light heck no. If you allow NR in camera is also makes it harder to do any serious post process as artifacts are worse.
    In truth when I really want low light I grab by Sony FF. But I just got the XT3 and it is looking pretty good.

    • @gooeytv1184
      @gooeytv1184 4 роки тому

      Yeah. Because fujifilm aps-c cameras are really bad in low light.

    • @karlwalters3763
      @karlwalters3763 4 роки тому +4

      @@gooeytv1184 Noob comment.

    • @theplanespotterguy
      @theplanespotterguy 3 роки тому

      @@gooeytv1184 Check "A6300 vs XT30" low light on youtube

  • @mecrodrigues
    @mecrodrigues 3 роки тому +1

    Great video!! Does anyone have an insight on sharpness setting? Since it kind of makes a pair with NR, I would like to have some advices!

  • @Khoiboy
    @Khoiboy 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Omar... I have this problem! Couldn’t figure it out, but you clarified. UGH. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @ogonzilla
    @ogonzilla  5 років тому +5

    Share your TERRIBLE JPEGS stories or advice in the comments below! Thanks guys!

    • @josecolon8143
      @josecolon8143 5 років тому +1

      Omar Gonzalez Photography few years back I meet with my wife for shooting a dance performance at Bellas Artes Santurce PR. I was at another location with my Fuji XT2 and she supposed to bring the Canons 1DX mkii for the performance. Then she showed up with her sister (😩). I got to my reserved area, took my equipment and when I do the check up..... Only 1/3 of power on the cameras. My wife and her sister had used them and didn’t charged it, and to make things worst she forgot the extra 2 batteries at home and left them charging. So I used my Canons until they died and the Fuji when I ran out of juice, (keep in mind that was the Fuji with old firmware). I had to shoot between 3200 and 6400 raw of course, but it was the most horrible red back lit stage!!!! Horror, mate, I’m still hurting; my rate with the Fuji under those conditions were 4-10 a nightmare!!!! Lol my wife felt soooo bad, she still feels bad about it.

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +1

      julio hernandez oh MAN!! I’ve been there with the hopeless single bar of battery. Thanks for sharing Julio.

  • @mortenthorpe
    @mortenthorpe 5 років тому +2

    So basically,, if you expose incorrectly, then you get bad results? Isn’t that logical? What about using the DR-setting (dynamic range) at 400? That will only make a difference in jpg, and should help you... because it looks and sounds to be a dynamic range issue.

    • @RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari
      @RiccardoGabarriniKazeatari 5 років тому

      DR400 (which is available only with iso 800 and above, just saying) affects raw files too. There's a video on youtube that tested this

    • @mortenthorpe
      @mortenthorpe 5 років тому +1

      Riccardo Gabarrini ok! Thanks for clarifying this... I suspected as much, but assumed on the side of DR only affecting jpg... so, proper lighting is as always the right choice!

  • @SKELLZ_
    @SKELLZ_ 5 років тому +14

    Now do the same test with the Canon.

    • @sexysilversurfer
      @sexysilversurfer 4 роки тому

      Skelley 😂😂😂😂 Canon have lots of red dots at high iso. Very difficult to get rid off.

  • @leonaimene7283
    @leonaimene7283 4 місяці тому

    Ik this is like 5 years later, but what about raw files? Are they soft and smeared also in low light?

  • @jamesr.9239
    @jamesr.9239 5 років тому +1

    Realizing that Fuji cameras are intended for a different user , they seem to be a bit weak on their flash offerings compared to Nikon and Canon. For example they don't seem to have wireless or sync cable options in their flash lineup (maybe I'm wrong ) and their guide numbers are on the smaller side by comparison. Flash sync for shutter is only average for these consumer grade cameras . The "big two" have provided numerous wireless and cabled options on some very powerful speed lights and I'm a bit surprised at fuji is all I'm saying.

    • @stu-ax
      @stu-ax Рік тому

      You're probably aware of this 4 years on....There are decent third-party options for flash with FujiFilm. Godox produce decent units - triggers, speedlites and Strobes - which make the results a lot better.

  • @carlantaki3250
    @carlantaki3250 5 років тому +1

    Omar you bring an interesting thanks, I notice you have red RAWs using Capture one. I'm also having the same issue with my XT-2 and Capture One 11, did you find an easy way to fix the red, sometimes playing with White Balance and Tint is not enough

  • @martee4
    @martee4 5 років тому +2

    Does this apply to RAWs too?

  • @kristinas1280
    @kristinas1280 5 років тому +2

    Omar, you are the best! I want more videos. 😍

  • @artsmodelstation9396
    @artsmodelstation9396 2 роки тому

    Should of never sold my Nikon D850 😠

  • @chrisjames1924
    @chrisjames1924 4 роки тому

    My decade old sub $100 Nikon D3100 with 35mm f/1.8 shoots better indoors than my XT3 with 35 1.4. The XT3 has been horrible to use. We shouldn't be having to mess around so much in post. I've just bought the 10-24 and again it's useless in almost all conditions. Impossible to use indoors without flash, always blurry and always with huge amounts of distortion. Standard DSLR's are better at everything - and proven. Fuji mirrorless cameras are utter shite. It's cost me a fortune finding this out. All syle over substance. Fuji have had a fantastic PR campaign. Giving popular youtubers free gear in return for positive video reviews has paid dividends. I'll definitely be going back to Nikon whose lenses and sensors are able to expose image's without having to crank ISO.

  • @2020-k8v
    @2020-k8v 5 років тому +1

    Strictly the same problem with my X-E3 jpeg. With good outdoor light the jpeg are great or fantastic especially with Kodachrome, Meyerowitz, Eggelston, Portra400, etc simulations. But with low light I really need to use Raw because noise reduction is really ugly. For me this is the most and maybe my only important problem with my Fujifilm.

    • @samsstreets8684
      @samsstreets8684 5 років тому +2

      Emmanuel Christiny what are those simulations you’re on about there then?!

  • @sabretooth717
    @sabretooth717 4 роки тому +1

    Dude laughs at himself...funny

  • @frankartale1026
    @frankartale1026 2 роки тому

    Because its an xtrans ii or iii or iv.
    The original does not do this.
    Put that camera under your tire and do a burnout

    • @tonygarrett7214
      @tonygarrett7214 Рік тому

      Hilarious comment! Am still laughing!! I have 2 Fujifilm cameras and love them. Just an enthusiast and having fun with them.

  • @brucekraft744
    @brucekraft744 5 років тому +2

    Good demo, Omar! Thanks for these insights.

  • @stephengatley8144
    @stephengatley8144 5 років тому +1

    Nik Dfine 2 is the best noise reduction software I have found!

  • @mtbhub2090
    @mtbhub2090 5 років тому +2

    Why would anyone shoot jpeg in low light? Further more why shoot in jpeg unless for back up? Spending money on great equipment and not use it to its maximum potential doesn't make sense to me.

    • @leanne6308
      @leanne6308 5 років тому

      Because Fuji is known for its nice jpegs. Just not in low light...

  • @lawlaw9176
    @lawlaw9176 3 роки тому

    The +4 NR function I will only use it when shooting portrait for ladies....they love it....

  • @maxutkurmangaziyev8328
    @maxutkurmangaziyev8328 2 роки тому

    What better for video and photos canon 6d old camera or fujifilm x-t30? Or Sony 6300?

  • @anoophcl
    @anoophcl 5 років тому

    End of the story, fuji is apsc and wont perform well in low light. Hence proved full frame are better in any condition. Understand this, how many times we go out and shoot in sunlight, bet u most ofnthe times we shoot indoor pics of our family and kids and need full frame

  • @BIMLounge
    @BIMLounge 2 роки тому

    Thanks, -4 it is. Yes Sony FF can produce some noisy images too. On the other hand I was surprised about how well the NR works on a camera like the Sony A7c so I tend to keep that on. On the XT-30 I set the max ISO at 6400 and that covers 99% of my scenario especially using aperture to compensate. What I like about Fuji is that I noticed that I don't pay as much attention to the noise as I am with the Sony so I guess it's a more carefree/plesant shooting experience.

  • @JohnJHPark
    @JohnJHPark 2 роки тому

    Great Job done! I found many Fuji recipes with NR=-4 and couldn't find out the reason beforehand. This is a great answer :)

  • @undercoverbearmusic
    @undercoverbearmusic 5 років тому +1

    This is not portrait photography 101?

  • @TheGardnaaa
    @TheGardnaaa 5 років тому +1

    Omar you are the greatest! Thank you for all your content! Happy holidays my friend!

  • @asoshkin
    @asoshkin 5 років тому +5

    Moral of the story is don't take photos in bad light.

    • @curiousobserver5332
      @curiousobserver5332 4 роки тому

      At a wedding where you're not allowed to shoot with flash, in very dim light, dark day with dark stain glass windows....sometimes you have to shoot in bad light.

  • @GerhardReus
    @GerhardReus 4 роки тому

    Is this Alan Watts on the third example picture at the beginning? I thought he was long gone.

  • @starvingrtist8714
    @starvingrtist8714 5 років тому +1

    I'm learning Capture One too!

  • @silencenhikes6692
    @silencenhikes6692 4 роки тому

    What about turning off NR completely? Seems to be fine for me.

  • @lollandz
    @lollandz 4 роки тому

    It's funny that fuji is known for its super nice jpgs..
    Yet they also have the worst jpgs in the business

  • @amitk1187
    @amitk1187 4 роки тому

    Hi, fuji xt2 with the 18-135 or fuji xh1 with the 15-45, only fop photography

  • @SuperLisandro86
    @SuperLisandro86 5 років тому

    Every jpeg in every camera looks bad in difficult light conditions, at least noisy or washed up, Fuji just adds a weird waxy texture, but still not a problem unless you print large pictures.

  • @georgek.5491
    @georgek.5491 5 років тому

    Because xtrans technology is pointless.If you see sensors like the D500(3 years old) or D7500 you can understand that the xtrans doesn't have any benefit.

    • @leanne6308
      @leanne6308 5 років тому

      Smaller, lighter camera's are a benefit.

  • @michaelreynolds6543
    @michaelreynolds6543 4 роки тому

    surely by utilising a technique such as ETTR would go some way to curing this problem of noise I have a canon 5DMk2 and i use that technique all the time i don't get a lot of noise I've just bought a 2nd hand xt1 with a 50mm f2 lens and I'm looking forward to applying it on that camera too

    • @karlwalters3763
      @karlwalters3763 4 роки тому

      Yes! ETTR can be a little tricky to get your head around but works well. I have an XT1 as well and use it for a lot of product and fashion shoots. I love the grainy film look this camera has when things get a little noisy. I'm not sure why so many people have such issues with noise.

  • @z10n0v4
    @z10n0v4 5 років тому +2

    I turn off NR on any camera I use. If I want to reduce noise, I'll do that in post.
    Also, if you can shoot RAW why would you shoot JPEG? 100% of the time, its better to shoot in RAW.
    The folks saying to buy a FF camera instead crack me up. Of course a bigger sensor is gonna have greater low light performance...

  • @tomislavmiletic_
    @tomislavmiletic_ 5 років тому +2

    Use fast glass in low light to keep ISO levels down. The good old way we old horses used on a film back in the day, which still works...

    • @JC-fj7oo
      @JC-fj7oo 4 роки тому

      There's a limit. Glass can only get so fast. Also, the wider aperture change the depth of field which could ruin an image much more than a little noise.

    • @tomislavmiletic_
      @tomislavmiletic_ 4 роки тому

      @@JC-fj7oo That's true but you always have to know what you want to accomplish and how to get there. If that means you need to use flash you do it. If that's not possible I'll rather live with shallow DOF than no picture. And that DOF thing is strongly dependant of which lens do you use - you'll still get enough DOF even at f/1,4 (Fuji) if you are shooting with the 16mm lens. Not so much with the 56mm do...
      At the end of the day, we are working to the best of our abilities in a certain moment of time. 30 or something years ago when I started to do professional photography ISO 3200 was the upper limit, and those pictures looked atrocious. If they were shot in colour, it was even worse...

    • @77oregano77
      @77oregano77 2 роки тому

      I don't think this will solve the problem, I just did a shoot in somewhat low light with the 35mm 1.4 shooting wide open and at 640 iso. The shadows on the face render horribly, it's like a bad joke. I've been a huge Fuji fanboy but as I do more portraits I'm realizing there are some serious problems with their x-trans sensors.

    • @tomislavmiletic_
      @tomislavmiletic_ 2 роки тому

      @@77oregano77 Have you tried to process your files in C1 ?

    • @77oregano77
      @77oregano77 2 роки тому

      @@tomislavmiletic_No, I tried x-transformer and Lightroom enhance details neither of which helped much and I intend to try silkypix. I've since learned that this is probably a dynamic range issue, when the subject is backlit by very bright lights, the range of bright and dark areas ie. contrast falls outside the limits of what the sensor can capture at that particular iso. I will also try using the histogram to set my exposure.

  • @alexandrosstefaneskou9655
    @alexandrosstefaneskou9655 4 роки тому

    Thank's Omar for the tips you are the man! Can we have a video with what settings to use in light conditions like winter in Norway (little to no light faded cold and Summer in Greece ( blindingly sunny clear sky?) We need more videos bro!

  • @Dudemeister
    @Dudemeister Рік тому

    Very Zoolander on the last one

  • @W4rcrafter
    @W4rcrafter 5 років тому +5

    You are sharing missinformation. Just because something turned out 'not like you expected it to' it is not right to blame the camera for it. Fuji has many options that affect jpeg and raws, you first need to read the manual of the camera, IF your purpose is to master the camera. Your title is so wrong it insults, Fuji & and their BSI sensors lead the way as far as low light noise goes..

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +1

      Aris G Uhh... Gotcha. 👍🏼👍🏼

    • @W4rcrafter
      @W4rcrafter 5 років тому +1

      @@ogonzilla Excuse my aggressive comment, i came from watching many other videos and commented on yours. You are not sharing missinformation, as i said but just some thin areas need clarification. New bsi Fuji sensors can 'show' higher than normal noise as low as iso 800, but that comes naturally, skin, dark areas or foliage is greatly affected. But other companies use hidden software for different photographic situations and tbh it looks awesome, but for me its pre editing raw files.. For instance Nikon is unbeatable when taking shots with the sun, the software realises you are shooting against the sun and applies selective edits on the sun itself turning it from a blown out circle to a yellow sphere that gives a 3d effect, beautiful..

    • @andrewrussell2845
      @andrewrussell2845 5 років тому

      @@W4rcrafter all of the above corresponds in no way to my experience with my XT20.

  • @NicoManansala
    @NicoManansala 4 роки тому

    This one also apply in video right looks plastic

  • @balivlogreview
    @balivlogreview 5 років тому

    Wow at the end of the vid, you showed xt3 and a7iii in iso 51200. And i found that xt3 has more noise than sony in that iso 🤭

  • @tonyjames5444
    @tonyjames5444 5 років тому +3

    I've always felt Fuji cameras overprocess their images.

  • @MrDailos81
    @MrDailos81 5 років тому

    Love Fuji but I think I’ve given up I can’t afford to move away from lightroom where I have everything organised and I don’t want to use a different software just to get the best out of the raf files, anyhow most of my system is sold now, I have kept the xe3 with the 23mm for the odd street and travel days.

    • @hejakma4682
      @hejakma4682 5 років тому

      No need to go away from LR. Just get Irident and you're done.

  • @jaredlindsay5823
    @jaredlindsay5823 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for producing this video. Very helpful information

  • @davidbanks4735
    @davidbanks4735 4 роки тому

    Noooooo Not SAD FACE! My wife watches that all the time.

  • @RedSamurai1000
    @RedSamurai1000 5 років тому

    Wow this is terible... I looked for a new camera and I think I go for Sony again... wait is see you shot the photos in 12800? of course the image are crab.

  • @Ricciobz
    @Ricciobz 5 років тому

    And don't forget that you can always use the NR later from the PC if you really need!

  • @sumanmaroju5085
    @sumanmaroju5085 3 роки тому

    u r the best!

  • @leanne6308
    @leanne6308 5 років тому

    Thanks so much for this video. The low light jpegs were irking me so much, glad there is a fix.

  • @deanrobertnoble138
    @deanrobertnoble138 5 років тому

    Is there a level where NR kicks in or is just not perceived with lower iso?

  • @peregrinacarlos
    @peregrinacarlos 4 роки тому

    I just tried a Samyang 35 f1.2 and is way sharper and detailed than my 23mm f2, even at wide open.
    I didnt have to change anything in the camera.

    • @MottiWolkenbruch
      @MottiWolkenbruch Рік тому

      The 23mm is not really sharp. I had it twice and sold it twice. I really disliked it.

  • @PauloParreira
    @PauloParreira 5 років тому

    You look like Zoolander at the candle photo with duck face 😁

  • @JeremyGalloway
    @JeremyGalloway 5 років тому

    If you use -4 NR all the time yourJPEGs will look super sharp, but you’ll have tons of crazy shadow noise, even at 200 ISO

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому

      Really? Gotta test dat. Thanks..

    • @JeremyGalloway
      @JeremyGalloway 5 років тому

      @@ogonzilla I shoot with my shadows set to -1 or -2, so maybe that's why? I just remember shooting some shots at the beach in very harsh lighting with NR -4 and sharpness at +2, and the images were bitingly sharp, but in an unnatural way, and I got some shadow noise in the extreme shadows. You'll have to pixel peep to see it at ISO 200 but I was surprised

  • @kian8382
    @kian8382 5 років тому +2

    One thing camera manufacturers never changed, and I mean never changed ever since I had my first 320*240 resolution "camera", is smearing the photos by default. You can buy a 24MP or 42MP camera but what you'll get is more pixels of smears.

  • @semurrrrrr
    @semurrrrrr 4 роки тому

    please video about fuji low light action :D

  • @luisdent
    @luisdent 5 років тому

    Is that your zoolander blue steel face?

  • @jan-martinulvag1953
    @jan-martinulvag1953 3 роки тому

    What is noise seduction ?

  • @nellatrab
    @nellatrab 5 років тому

    Love your humor Omar! I'm still trying to love the XT-20. It's just so finicky...ha BTW your website is great!

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому

      Thanks! Let me know if I can help it be less finicky...

  • @curiousobserver5332
    @curiousobserver5332 4 роки тому

    Thank you! Your videos are SO relevant & helpful!

  • @cloud9photography126
    @cloud9photography126 4 роки тому

    is it just as bad when shooting raws???

  • @00_Ryan_00
    @00_Ryan_00 5 років тому +7

    Sensor saturation /KenWheeler

    • @shifteleven
      @shifteleven 5 років тому +1

      Can you elaborate on Sensor Saturation? And why I would divide it by KenWheeler?

    • @00_Ryan_00
      @00_Ryan_00 5 років тому +1

      @@shifteleven lol...Well...the "/" is a way to reference something at the end of a statement. So...I'm stating that the UA-camr Ken Wheeler preaches sensor saturation for better image quality, (sharpness, color, clarity, Dynamic Range...etc...).

    • @shifteleven
      @shifteleven 5 років тому +1

      @@00_Ryan_00 OK. So basically exposing to the right (without clipping) as a way to give the sensor the most amount of data to work with? Which usually I find doesn't work great for JPEGs, but fine for RAW files since you can play with exposure, shadows, highlights with more fidelity. Or is it something else?
      And I totally got the "/" - just had to make my joke. I was going to say you shouldn't divide by a 0, but I didn't want to be too rude (math slam!) :)

    • @00_Ryan_00
      @00_Ryan_00 5 років тому +1

      @@shifteleven Sounds about right. Personally, I bracket, but I shoot static subjects, not people.

    • @veritiasvosliberabit9132
      @veritiasvosliberabit9132 5 років тому +7

      Be careful taking advice from that guy, he is NOT a working professional photographer. He may have a bit of technical information but he lacks any kind of real world experience in such matters.

  • @jimtrull683
    @jimtrull683 5 років тому +1

    I have shot as high as 12,800 with my XT-2 and created a great 16X20 print of the image. I have had no such problem at high ISO with the XT-2 but I have seen much greater noise in the XT-3 starting at much lower ISO’s. Perhaps the problem that many others are speaking about here is based upon how they sharpen Fuji images in LR. I would not be concerned about high ISO’s in the XT-2 personally. I have done a lot of hand held street shooting at night with the 2 and they may be a little noisy but still work well for me.

  • @madhatter42o
    @madhatter42o 4 роки тому

    Haha..He's got the Blue Steel look going on.

  • @kylegoodall310
    @kylegoodall310 4 роки тому

    I dont know but what about flash?

  • @magicrider7738
    @magicrider7738 4 роки тому

    Hello) Is it works in video mode?

  • @ascherithgrey2094
    @ascherithgrey2094 5 років тому

    switch to sony a6500 it solved the problems lol.
    just kidding.
    2 questions, is the fuji xt1,xt2 or xt20 far worst than the sony's apsc & full frame at low light performance??
    im confuse between the xt series, a6xxx or a7 the original or g85.
    i only shot jewellery, model kits and some videos for the products inside my room.
    i never saw professional photographer using fuji apsc & panasonic mft for product photography. i hope you can help me. thanks.

    • @elbanaag9355
      @elbanaag9355 5 років тому +1

      ascherith ubel blatt fullframe will always give you better iso handling and more details.

    • @ascherithgrey2094
      @ascherithgrey2094 5 років тому +1

      @@elbanaag9355 ah i see. i narrow down to xt2 & a7ii right now because the price drop.
      but if the full frame really better in details i probably go for the a7ii.
      I've been 2 months comparing many cameras and still can't make up my mind lol. it's very hard to find the 1st camera just like choosing women for a wife lol.
      the things i hate about a7ii are no 4k,1080p 120fps & silent shutter but the xt2 got no IBIS and i haven't found photographers that use fuji for jewellery product photography.
      btw thanks for your reply.

    • @elbanaag9355
      @elbanaag9355 5 років тому

      @@ascherithgrey2094 however let me warn you that a72 is very close to a6500 in iso handling.. the sensor in a72 is not BSI sensor.. a73 is BSI.. a6500 aswell has BSI sensor.. so the iso handling between a72 and a73 is huge starting on 6400 and up..

    • @tomislavmiletic_
      @tomislavmiletic_ 5 років тому

      If you learn how to use flashes, even those on a second hand market for just few $ (jewellery is small and close so no problems with that), you'll stop worrying about all this crap and be able to make a beautiful picture even with 10 years old camera. And you didn't said do you need photos for online media or for billboards. What's important in product photography is a good lens, flashes powerful enough for what you do and camera comes in the fourth place, right after your ability to do the job...

    • @elbanaag9355
      @elbanaag9355 5 років тому

      Tomislav Miletić yes that's correct but he's basically asking lowlight performance wherein maybe he will need it in some scenarios.. then the answer is fullframe ofcourse.. when doing product its a common sense to use lights.. i wont ask where he needs lowlight performance.. its up to him.. but there you go :)

  • @venvilhenrydsilva8354
    @venvilhenrydsilva8354 4 роки тому

    get a super low aperture lens... lol

  • @tdalton854
    @tdalton854 5 років тому

    Thank you Omar. Negative 4 it is then!

  • @volkerarminhafner8530
    @volkerarminhafner8530 4 роки тому

    You are so funny and also a genius.

  • @RobShootPhotos
    @RobShootPhotos 5 років тому

    Lex Luther: "Now let's look at a picture of me...that's not me, that's sups, I always get us confused" hmm...does your wife know your not Superman?
    Yes...we want noise reduction to make stubble look like gray makeup. Nice video and explanation.

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +1

      Oh she reminds me I'm not superman. often...lol...

  • @TheIkaika777
    @TheIkaika777 5 років тому

    I shoot my Fuji cameras in low light the majority of the time and never have I ever got “waxy skin” or the “ watercolor effect“. And I’ve shot above 6400 many times.

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +1

      TheIkaika777 Tell is your secret man!!!

    • @TheIkaika777
      @TheIkaika777 5 років тому

      Omar Gonzalez Photography, no secret. I do have my NR always at -4 but other than that no secret. The waxy skin and watercolor effect was a problem with the first generation X camera’s but the X-Trans CMOS 3 and X-Processor Pro fixed those problems. I’ve seen those problems only with the X-Pro1/X-10/X-T1. I’ve never experienced or seen those problems with the X-Pro2/X100F/X-T2/X-T3. A lot of the problem was also due to the user jacking up the NR and sharpness.

    • @TheIkaika777
      @TheIkaika777 5 років тому

      Миссис Клювдия, nope.
      “No, X-Trans is not responsible for waxy skin tones. It’s the processor, and to be more precise, waxy skin tones are caused by the noise reduction that Fujifilm applies to the JPEG images (the probem does not exist with RAW files).
      In the Fuji world, the X-A line (Bayer sensor) gives way more waxy results than any X-Trans camera, as you can see clearly here. This is so, because Fuji wants it this way. The X-A line is very popular amongst Asian women, and Fuji’s imaging engine is adapted to meet their taste.
      Back to X-Trans… Fujifilm has listened to feedback and has fine tuned noise reduction as well as given customers more range to adjust it in-camera with X-Trans III cameras like the Fujifilm X-T2. Waxy skin tones are now better controlled.”
      www.fujirumors.com/debunking-fujifilm-x-trans-myths-purple-flare-wormy-artifacts-high-iso-cheating-waxy-skin-tones/

    • @TheIkaika777
      @TheIkaika777 5 років тому

      Миссис Клювдия, and again,
      “The X Pro 1 is truly an incredible camera. Many write about the shortcomings of the aging X pro 1. ***Those complaints include waxy skin at high ISO, dynamic range issues in high contrast situations, slow autofocus, in-accurate autofocus, poor RAW file handling and the “Fuji” look/color management.
      While all that stuff is true at times, when you hit with a Fuji camera and get it right the results are simply incredible.”
      imaginegnat.com/2016/01/04/5-years-with-fuji-x-cameras/

  • @CVCC
    @CVCC 5 років тому

    thank you for making this video, great tip!

  • @muatao9943
    @muatao9943 5 років тому +1

    I didn't know until now that I had disgusting JPEGs. It's like when you find out about bed bugs for the first time. Sad face : ( Thanks as always for the great tips!

  • @NicholasLeicht
    @NicholasLeicht 5 років тому

    This is very helpful Omar! Thank you :)
    Do you know if this problem persists in RAW files too?

    • @ogonzilla
      @ogonzilla  5 років тому +4

      Higher noise in the Raws since no noise reduction has been applied. Once you do apply noise reduction in post, you may see some waxiness. But this will happen with most high iso raws from any camera.

    • @NicholasLeicht
      @NicholasLeicht 5 років тому

      @@ogonzilla This is good to know, thank you! 😀

  • @kauaiphotography
    @kauaiphotography 5 років тому +1

    Great job at comparing the various settings and ISO's. I like to just shoot only jpgs, although just for insurance I shoot jpg+raw all the time just for these conditions and also because I see the same smearing with mostly green areas (foliage, grass) at any ISO, including the base. Any thoughts on this? I have tried various noise reduction settings as well as sharpness, but can't seem to control it or find a happy medium. If it wasn't for this, I would go all Fuji! Keep up the great work and posting great content. Happy holidays from Hawaii.

  • @zedgraphics00
    @zedgraphics00 5 років тому

    Ahahaha. Love your humour Sups :)

  • @diego_perez
    @diego_perez 5 років тому +1

    damn the last seconds are the best! Also, I just remembered the question that you answered to me some weeks ago and is this exactly thing! this was very usefull plus your help before, I'm going to -4 NR from now, and the best advice is use the raw files. Enjoyed the video, usefull and easy to understand! :D

  • @PatrickOSullivanAUS
    @PatrickOSullivanAUS 5 років тому

    Is that for jpeg or raw, or does not matter?

  • @simonwilliams2109
    @simonwilliams2109 5 років тому

    Thanks Omar, great tips.

  • @MrKemKemal
    @MrKemKemal 5 років тому +4

    Why shot JPEG? Is the XT3 at par with sony and leica q, etc, at low light, ISO3200 with RAW files?

    • @elbanaag9355
      @elbanaag9355 5 років тому +2

      answer is clear.. it is a NO.. Sony's got great lowlight performance.. a7S2, a73 and incoming a7s3.. all 3 doesn't have an issue even with 6400-12800 iso.. fullframe benefits iso performance.. it's physics..

    • @MrKemKemal
      @MrKemKemal 5 років тому

      eL banaag yes!