Honda's $7300 N-Van EV - what happens if they sell it in the US?
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- Honda's $7300 N-Van EV - what happens if they sell it in the US?
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When I have traveled in Japan, I have always marveled and been fascinated by all of the small, functional mini work trucks and vans that are produced. I have thought, despite our love affair with huge vehicles, that vehicles like this, and now this Honda electric work van, have possibilities world wide. Cool! I want one!
I was thinking along similar lines. I was thinking if Honda could electrify the FIT alot of people would want it but it but this is better. I love the folding seat idea as my daughter and I love to Kayak and this fits the bill. This would cause a meltdown with other cars.
My perfect second car, easy to park, and a good load area.
Honda Australia, yes please. Great concept.
Question: if you're taller than 5'8", can you FIT in one of these? Remember that the Japanese make their vehicles based around THEIR average population, not that of WESTERN countries. In the west, the average height is now around 6 feet.
@user-ig8lg9yo2g Might want to check your numbers. The average has gone up a bit since the turn of the millennium.
@user-ig8lg9yo2g Well, since I can't find the site I initially used, and wiki agrees with you, we'll have to go with that.
However, the point is the same. These vehicles are designed around a far shorter average height range. It's one of the reasons many Japanese manufacturers redesigned many of their cars and motorcycle models for the American market.
I'd buy one tomorrow if they had them for sale. Actually, I'd buy one this afternoon.
Fantastic concept, straight forward and useful, probably never see it in America, Honda dealers are too used to selling $40K CRV's.
That car looks like a fun car to have. 120 miles is plenty of range for daily use. IMO, the US $7500 credit should only be for cars that are less than $30K. It would incentivize manufacturers to make more affordable EVs.
Also, really glad to see Tesla cut some prices.
That would imply the government is helping poor people, we all know the tac cuts should go to Exxon.
As someone who drives a first gen Scion XB ....I approve of this vehicle ! I would be willing to pay up to 12,000 usd for this.
tax credit be 7,500 , cost 7,300 ,lol
Honda needs to bring this to the US and make a mini truck version too!!!
@Sir Plants-a-lot. Mitsubishi has one too!
Thank you for covering vehicles like these Sam. Its my feeling that converting to electric vehicles will only really happen when the masses can afford one. Its really great how you can fold the front seat down as well. Really spacious that way.
I don't know about other countries, but in Romania the incentives for purchasing a new EV cover at most 50% of the vehicle's price (if the price is more than 20k €, you get 10k; if it's 19k, you get 9.5k etc). You can't get your car for free.
They’ll never sell them in the U.S. EU, or similar markets, but really, there’d be a pretty significant market for them. It’s a pretty perfect city vehicle. Hauls people or a ton of stuff. Many people would buy this as their only vehicle - one vehicle for everything. People in cities with public transportation and bike infrastructure don’t need to drive all the time, and it’s not worth spending much money on a vehicle. Maybe after the rest of the market collapses they’ll finally sell it to western markets.
They are being sold in the UK,but not direct from Honda.
This car would sell like hotcakes here in Hawaii: The highest speed limit on O'ahu Island is 55 mph, and that is for only a 7 mile stretch on the newest of 3 freeways... every where else on O'ahu and the other islands the maximum highway speed is between 45-50 mph. The State of Hawaii has a goal to be an "all electric auto vehicle state" by 2035. Right now there are a lot of stock Japanese K-Trucks, and K-Cargo Vans being driven around Honolulu and throughout the islands so... if Honda produced a limited run of maybe 4,0000 left hand steering versions for the Hawaii market, they would probably all be sold in a relatively short time. I would be one of the buyers, as well.
This is a brilliant little car. I would buy one to drive to work for 8 months out of the year and leave my suv at home. I could actually afford both.
This would progress EV adoption. The Suv could be used in winter and on long trips or people hauling.
I hope it can DC fast charge. I am sure it would not take long to recharge. I could probably plug it in at work and get enough power to get back home and finish overnight.
This looks like the next original leaf.
I would love to see this little van on big city highways with road racing speeds, constant road construction, potholes, and snow.
I hope they sell them in the states and business owners take them out to be evicerated by city traffic.
@Byrnc To me it would be like the little mini trucks used on golf courses, orchards and other similar businesses.
I agree that a little bigger diameter tires would be a benefit. These kind of remind of the old Le Car we used to see running around.
My friend had one in high school. We could parallel park that thing anywhere.
Someone was being a jerk one night and boxed us in.
4 of us just picked the back end up and spun it a 1/4 turn and we drove it away.
Great analysis! I would write the check today if it was sold in the US. On another topic...Sam, consider covering Formula E racing. There are lots of EV innovations coming in Formula E that will translate to commercial EV tech. FIA has allowed the teams to develop their own Inverters and motors, etc.
I had a Kei car for years and loved it. Have been waiting for an electric one. As soon as these or something similar from the other Kei car manufacturers get to England, I’ll get one.
Running Kei vehicles,for forty years,and will keep on doing so.
I have been wanting the Kei cars to come to Australia for years. If this did, and was under $15k I would buy it immediately
I would buy one today for my business its perfect.
I would love to have something like this in the US as long as it can go highway speeds but I know that is unlikely. However, I have been to the Philippines, Thailand, India and they desperately need vehicles like this. They are strangled by pollution and gas is proportionally so much more expensive there. Bring it Honda!
Honda car ranked the third in Thailand after Toyota and Isuzu.
Honda motorcycle ranked the first.
This model can be successful in Thailand if it has the right prices, plus Thailand is a right-hand drive country as same as Japan.
Japanese highway speed limit is 120km/h (75mph) on some of the newer sections, and these Kei cars can usually do about 140km/h (85mph) I would be surprised if the electric models can't do that too.
They don't need more cars they need more effective public transportation systems.
Most people in here seem to forget that you do not have to drive 120 miles in a day. In cold weather, in rain or with a load inside(it is a van) or at highway speeds and not in the slow lane, you are going to use up that range in far less miles. Their testing is probably not epa which means that the range will be much less. That boxy body is going to do horribly on the highway at high speed.
@Ari P. Mitsubishi has been selling one for awhile. All that worry for no reason.
$7000 ??? Dude this is one of your most unbelievable video. ...litterally do not believe it.
When I lived in Japan I had a Honda Street Van. The model before this one. Most fun car I ever had and I didn't know it at the time.
Thanks Sam. 🙂 I'll believe it if it ever goes on sale. It has the aerodynamics of a brick, which will limit range seriously. And if it's anything like the Honda E, then the claimed range will be unrealistic..
@RWBHere. You'll never get to drive one so, too bad! Hehe!
Got to remember what it is built for. If you look at Japan massive congestion low speeds even thier highways are only 80km/h from memory. But as a city run around or let's say your a electrican or similar this would make an excellent inner city car. Yep useless for big drives but around the city aerodynamics is not that important.
This reminds me of the discontinued Honda Element we used to have here in the USA. Great vehicle, boxy looking, kind of 'short' compared to SUVs, but it had plenty of space inside and was priced below a similar size SUV. I would have got one if they hadn't discontinued making them around 2012. Just bring back the Element in ICE and electric versions and I'm sure it would sell quite well in the Honda line-up here in the USA. FYI: I think they sell a version of this in Singapore(?) and a few other places with a 1.2L turbo gasoline engine, so it has plenty of power for highway driving if you don't overload it.
They forgot the bread slots at the top ... so, when can I buy one?
LOL. Love it.
One of these in base form, landed in Australia for around $20K drive away would sell. About 140km real world range allowing for battery degradation. I reckon the CATL batteries that Honda have contracted to purchase, will be going into these vehicles.
there are more companies coming out with small evs.
gm coming with a small pickup.
US crash safety might be too high for this. Tiny vehicles often are low selling in the US. Many tiny vehicles have tried over the past thirty years, but little success. I can only imagine how they feel going sixty on a freeway when a large truck passes it or just strong winds blowing it around. Looks cool to me, but Smart did not sell well here, nor the Toyota Scion iQ.
I would buy this ASAP in North America. don't even really care about the range, we have plenty of free level 2 community chargers
I want one - when will it come to Australia?
Yes, I would. I fear that once shipped to North America, it's price would double (for no real added value).
This would be a perfect application for a BEV. 👍
this car does not have a rack, it transforms into a three person tent, it can be used as a show car to sell anything. this car will definitely find its buyer. I ordered this car for myself in Russia for $18,500, although I could have taken a much more fancy car. But I love travel and fancy cars)
1. it will never pass us crash standards.
2. They can't make money at that price
3. Won't be freeway worthy.
4. Americans don't want cracker box cards that kill you.
💯
I'd buy one tomorrow if it was available in Canada.
Just for future videos, it's spelt Kei but when you say it just say K.
I live in Japan and have this vehicle, an absolutely amazing little vehicle.
Also that $7300 price tag is for the base model N-Van which has very little accessories, as it's base model is geared at companies that don't need all the extra options.
I've got the higher end model with a few extra options on top and that cost me just under $13,000.
worth 13k take off 7,500 usd credit =5,500 cost plus tax.
Imagine last mile delivery drivers using these things and charging at lunch and after work. There would be so much money saved.
Honda still holds the design award for the best space management in card- The Honda Jazz, which featured innovative tumbledown rear seats Nice to see its successor go one better. Can't wait to buy one - despite the fact it's an EV.
nice shopping trolley.Wonder how much in OZ and will it pass the certification?
Well, in the U.S., a big hood is desired for safety reasons. But for that price, an exception can be made.
Hondas first four wheeler vehicle was a pick up.I used to drive Acty vans,until Honda stopped selling them in the UK,and used ones all but disappeared.Bring these Ns to the UK,please!
Awesome, I like the 2023 Nissan Sakura EV Kei Car too, but will we see any of these affordable, compact kei cars on our congested overcrowded old city roads in the UK. Doubt it, they want us to spend 50k+ on massive SUV's with millions of cameras, self driving AI and loads of other stuff we don't need and too take out massive loans, pay loads of tax and conjestion charges to use them.
They make more profit on the monsters.
I know it'll never happen, but it would be amazing if they brought this to Canada
What a brilliant awesome interior design. Nice to see Honda waking up from the dead, again.
@david brayshaw. They weren't dead. It's just that electric Viking finally made a good video on them.
@@mrgurulittle7000 If they weren't dead, their automotive product catalogue
was certainly giving a very good impression that they were.
@david brayshaw. If you call the new Pilot, CR-V, Accord, Civic/Civic TypeR, Integra, etc.. dead.
@@mrgurulittle7000 I was mistaken. Honda USA has a bundle of vehicles that we don't get in Australia. Honda's just about dead here. They've only got about 4 vehicles in the catalogue and they've moved from the dealer model
to the agency model with no discounting on their products. Sales have tanked as a consequence.
@david brayshaw. Oh, I see! Lol.
This is what the USPS should have bought for their new mail trucks. Nice and tiny, maneuverable. Sadly, we will never see any Kei cars in the USA due to our excessive regulations.
I would buy this in a minute!!
I would have one tomorrow. It even looks cool.
I WAAAANT ONE!!! Actually I want two, one here in the US, and one in Greece where I go for the summer. For Greece it would be my main vehicle and it would be perfect!
It’s a credit, not a cash handout. The net effect would be like you purchased the car for 1/3 (or 2/3?) of the purchase price because it would be treated as an itemized deduction in your tax return.
Not a deduction… a “credit”. You take it off the taxes you owe. So if you owe 7500… you pay no tax that year.
@@niceguyrides If the credit is greater than the tax owed, do you get a refund?
@@joegim7680 Nope. If you only owe 3600$ in taxes, that’s how much you get. Unlike a deduction which would only give you a percentage of the 7500$ off your tax bill. That would be based on your income bracket.
The EV credit is called a non-refundable tax credit. As long as you have 7500$ in income tax liabilities, you’ll get it all.
I'm in NJ. Where can I send a check? I'm ready for one NOW!!
The kei car is in their DNA. Here in Aus their last great seller was the Jazz which uses a fattened kei configuration. Get back to kei basics Honda and you’ll reap the rewards
I had a Jazz it was awesome. I wish they'd make a ev version of that.
I would absolutely buy one of these.
I think it would make a great vehicle for Amazon Flex deliveries.
@-theelectricviking21-- Don't use telegram, not into social media.
Good city delivery Van. Will it meet safety standards? Will it be limited to 60 km/HR? Good idea! 🇨🇦
No, almost certainly can’t.
yes it would be perfect for carting my stuff around.
In a large metro area the range is just too short for a service business like appliance repair.
Likely in the US it would either have to have features added increasing price. That or restrictions on where you can drive it making it less of a deal.
Looks like an electric Element. I would probably buy one since I don't have to drive much.
I have a 2009 Honda Element, a Kei minivan is much smaller but its seats are more configurable than the Element since they go into the floor. At that price with a 200km range, even if it goes to only 100km in the winter, I'd sell my Element and buy this minivan immediately.
Element interior scion Xb exterior
I really like it. People out here are even importing RHD kei cars from Japan. So much nicer than the same-old, same-old bloated, heavy rubbish they usually sell in the dealerships here.
Mitsubishi has one too. The Mitsubishi Minicab EV.
I simply love this, where can I get one?
Love it, just wish the range was longer. But am interested in buying one if it comparable to Scion xB.
first gen get alot better in tech as years goes on .
If Honda can start making it, it is likely to be a game-changer for EVs and the salvation for Honda. It would appear that Honda have not bought the Toyota story about customers not wanting EVs, and have started thinking for themselves and looking for the biggest market opportunities. As several other commenters have noted, the market for these in SE Asia (and now Africa) is HUGE and will run into 100s of millions if they can keep the price really low. Replicate their early successes in the motorcycle market in the 50s and 60s. I doubt they will even try to sell it in Australia, North America or even in Europe.
@David Inkster. Toyota came out with an EV Hilux, Rav4, and CH-R. They don't believe in 100% EV, but they do believe in EV.
Yes. That will be the 1st Electric Car I will buy if they are available in Australia.
Yes sign me up. But it would be my first car. I have an old leaf with no range. Still love it but it's getting difficult to deal with less than 40 miles of range.
i rented a honda n box, i would really want one in the uk, small size plus big interior.
The US Mail needs to buy about 100, 000 of these. RHD.
Let’s take a step back to the 2005 to 2015. We had Toyota and Nissan selling little box cars in the USA. The Scion XB Kia Soul and the Nissan Cube. The Scion XB was a bit of a hit, and the Kia Soul was a huge success. The Nissan Cube flopped. The only one still around is the Kia Soul. And it’s grown bigger, fatter and more expensive. I really liked my 2010 Cube.
It's looks intriguing but by the time it reaches the UK, there'd be a huge mark up in price. Look what happened with the Ora Cat, cheaper in China but in the UK it's £32k!
I want one. Heck I want 2. One for me, one for another. For how much I drive my tiny car, this would be more than enough! 120ish miles per charge? I don't go more than 50 miles a day, so as long as I can charge overnight, it's perfect! How do they make a battery that large (for miles traveled) for that little (total cost of car $8000) you'd think the battery alone would be that! I don't even care about the tax incentives or write offs, just practicality and affordable, not to mention, going greener than gasoline guzzlers.
They need to increase the range for me to use it. That range wouldn't get me to work and back, let alone any side trips during the day. I need at least 175 a mile range. That is a real range not a claimed range. The way it is, it would only be good to taking short trips to the local stores and back. I live in Texas some 55 miles from the nearest big city.
Yes, very practical. But supposedly longer for that price. $7K is too high.
A fun speculation, thanks.
Hopefully, Honda sells them directly - no dealerships involved.
I'd buy one for $7,000 - a car to ONLY run around the city and go to the airport.
When can I order one?
Where do I sign?
I would love to see them in South Africa!
Very good car for the US market. Fold down flat seats make the car especially attractive considering the rental market where people are converting cars into mini RVs to live in. Yeah, Australia seems to be going through the same thing in the most empty continent in the world. Something wrong with market incentives here.
More like $17,000 US. (It’s selling for ¥2,700,000 in Japan.)
I’d LOVE one of those!❤
Unfortunately they’ll never pass North American security road tests…
Finally an ev that might fly for the masses,even the tiny petrol would be pretty harmless in the big scheme of things
India (Tata and Mahindra) also launched few more SUV EVs just this week/month in their Auto Expo, a few good concept cars too, Just saying if you might wanna cover that,
IMO, most of them looks really good, although, I am not sure if they sell them internationally.
The USPS United States postal service needs these.
Dual motor version would be AWESOME!
I will absolutely buy this.
Show the safety testing results. The major one is highway speed as it needs to not be a road hazard.
I would love one.
I do not think they can sell this in the US because it probably will not meet safety regulations. Like the Wulong Mini ev, which can not be sold here. I doubt they can make a car that cheap that will meet those regs. This thing would be a death trap. I would never buy any such car for a second car even. Our second ev, would have to do long range as well. We will take out model 3 and our to be model y on trips both.
If they were for sale in the United States I would buy one tomorrow come on on to start selling these vehicles here
I personally have no use for one but I could see it being a first car for a high schooler, that is if robo taxis don't come to pass.
I sure wish they would bring this vehicle to the US But, I don’t think it will pass any safety requirements.
Those seats look a little stiff, I'm curious how comfortable they'll be for work commutes.
It's July 2024 and the specs and price have been released. Looks like it'll be about ¥2,500,000 (a little over $15,000 USD). 245km range. What do you think?
Thank you Sam for the info. I love to buy one of these, but it would not qualify under my life insurance policy and car insurance policy.... And most importantly, is it safe for road rage in California.??...
Kei cars can’t pass US crash test requirements.
A car like this, and the decade old Kia Ray EV are sorely needed.
It irks me how dealerships and executives think they know what customers want in western markets - they're the ones who create the mindset through advertising to us.
Japanese and Korean brands are too similar in competition with western examples. Eventually, the excessive expensive crossovers and no affordable and electric cars will be the weak underbelly for Chinese brands to take advantage of. And that's disappointing because of the greater variety that exists in domestic Asian markets.
Wish Honda would make the Honda E cheaper. Its an awesome looking little car.
Yes... This would sell in India... I'd buy one...
I’d buy one if they were available in the UK.
Japan pretty much forces carmakers to make tiny vans. City streets are crazy narrow.
Small awesome ev! To the masses!
Heck at $7300 I'd greymarket a right hand drive one into the US, tarriff, fees, taxes and all. Even if the government won't cut me a tax break, it's still competitive. I don't want or need an oversized murican truck.
I doubt this would sell in the US. The wheels are tiny and not fit for many US roads. You would have to parked it around the corner away from view. Range anxiety, no, let's talk imagine anxiety. Joking apart, what is the NCAP/EURCAP etc safety rating. It looks more like a UK postman Pat van.
Having driven a lot of miles in 20 states in the US whilst touring, one thing of note is interstate and highway speeds. People drive fast and this little car, I would never want to take it on those roads. Local neighboured perhaps as the US generally are very safety and speed conscious. Min speeds on interstates are likely the top speed of this little thing.
I can see it telling well in India though.
Lovely idea but I would bet my house that this wouldn’t be less than $25k outside China, apart from it wouldn’t pass any safety tests etc etc etc.
Look at the price of the Honda-e if you want any comparison!
If Honda were to sell they kei cars, there would have to be modifications such as the height to the ground and the width of the wheels. If it achieves that, it could compete with the compact Chinese electric cars such as Wuling or Geely, they dominate the kei car segment.
Wait a minute, a fully electric Honda Kei minivan? At that price? I sure hope they make it for other countries where we drive on the right, such as Canada, U.S.A., etc.