Golden Axe | SEGA 32X | How good is it?
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- I'm Scott Galaxy and today I've got another fun unrealesed game to show you. It's GOLDEN AXE for the SEGA 32X! I'll also do a SIDE-BY-SIDE comparison with the original Genesis release (from the SEGA CLASSICS game on SEGA CD). Is it that much better? Is it worth the $50-$60 price tag? Let's take a look!
*Captured straight from my Sega 32X and Sega CD systems
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Golden Axe Sega CD; Bad guy dies.His last word? "OW!"
This always made me laugh as a kid and I never understood why they made this change from the cart's death screams.
@@BlownMacTruckthe arcades death screams are the best though.
How I sound when taking a huge, painful dump. 👀😄
😂 even when I was a little kid I could tell they were all on drugs at SEGA
Plus they made it only for one player for no apparent reason...
Fantastic! I will have to pick this up for my 32X. For me, this was what the 32X should have been and that is a home for Sega's 32-bit arcade games. Looks like fans are doing what Sega did not. Thanks again.
dude, you need to have the 6-pak cart. it has 6 games on it. Streets of rage, sonic, golden axe, Super hang on, columns, and Revenge of Shinobi. So easy to recommend!
When I first got my genesis a couple years ago it was a ton of fun, especially super hang on
I have that one too! Great game pack
It does look much better than the cd version, but it feels like it’s a mod that use arcade backgrounds and genesis/Megadrive sprites.
Having the sprites to keep the arcade palettes colors should be priority.
I shelled out $229 for the Sega CD addon and never saw the 12-13 games with actual 3D superscalar making use of the ASIC DSP. I never knew that SoJ had withheld documentation and had so few development tools for their machines. There wasn't really a need for the 32X when the criminally underused Sega CD could do as well or sometimes better (60fps instead of 30fps).
Thanks for this great video, though. It brings back some great memories of one of the best console games ever.
I totally agree. While I still have very fond memories of my SEGA CD (and play it a lot even to this day), it was incredibly underutilized.
@@TheLaymanVideoGamer Al Nilsen, Tom Kalinske, and others at SoA wanted to focus on the marginally successful Sega CD and the just completed $49.95 SVP LockOn cart. Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racer, Daytona USA, and Star Wars Arcade had been made for that machine already.
@@MaxAbramson3 I remember all the bad blood that existed between SoA and SoJ at that time. It was the start of the downfall. I never did see a LockOn cart. That would have been cool. I do remember the special Virtua games that got the special (and expensive) SVP chips in them. Would love to see the lockon though!
The 32X added 32,768 on-screen colours to games. Whereas the Mega-CD was still limited to the Mega Drive's colour pallette.
@@ulysses2162 While that's true on paper, the reality is that the Genesis/MD can draw 320x448i as with Sonic 2 and a few others. It can also use S/H Mode for 3,375 colors and can draw 256 onscreen ay one time. So the increase in colors want really necessary with the 550MB CD format. The Sega CD's arcade quality scaling, rotation, and 4,000 textured, shaded quads per second made the 32X unnecessary... and for many games, the Saturn.
The issue with the Sega CD and the 32X is that they were separated adapters. They should have made 1 single adapter called the Sega 32x CD and then merge it quickly into one console with 6 button joysticks. It also came too late on the market. If Sega had released it in 1992 as a single unit, with many arcade hits and games from Capcom, Konami etc, it would have been a monster hit
I want a new Golden axe😮
i think everybody does... a side scroller one
There will be one but not 2D unfortunately. It's currently in development
Every time they try it just gets worse and worse :(
You have a new Golden Axe. It's called Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder, it came out on the Arcades and it's an awesome game. Golden Axe II is the console sequel to the original but it's just the same graphics with new stages and different magic animations. Golden Axe III should be burned at the stake for disgracing the Golden Axe name.
@@wettuga2762 What's so bad with Golden Axe 3?
Just watching this for a bit makes me want to break it out and play it. Great Sega game
The bump in color palette does wonders for the feeling of depth of the backgrounds. They also added so mucho more detail. I wish they would have added more frames of animation to the carachters. All in all, it's pretty cool.
I agree! In a perfect world that would be awesome, but I'm also just happy someone decided to go back and do anything at all. 👍🏻
I'm thinking the 32X could have done a perfect emulation of the Arcade. Yes it looks better than the Sega CD and Genesis ports, but not by that much
Absolutely, IF it was something other then a lazy hack of the existing Genesis version. They didn't get the colors right, didn't get the sound effects right... Didn't really do much of anything beyond what the OG port did! So why even bother? IDK... Maybe worse, this guy made a video about it singing its praises. I disliked the video, and no way in hell I'd ever subscribe to such a channel. Shits lame bro, shit is lame.
@@JasonBaker1978 Definitely looked like the same shovel ware crap that the Sega CD got during its day
Emulation?
Both versions were a waste of hardware, specially the Mega-CD (btw, is an official release and deserves more criticism) that could (as the other three games on the pack) at least received a CD quality soundtrack and better voices. I believe that even the stand-alone Mega Drive, with a bigger cartridge could have delivered these changes and can't really understand why the 32X is needed.
Anyway... The most important thing was the gameplay and overall content, and SEGA aced it even if with some limitations.
Thank you for the video. Cheers!
Golden Axe 3 on the Genesis is by far my favorite in the franchise and maybe my favorite Sega game. The graphics, the option to take different paths, and especially the enemy A-I is much smarter. The first 2 games were classics but just too easy. The magic isnt as impressive in part 3 but why it wasnt released in the US is crazy to me.
Fun fact: I have never played Golden Axe 3. Now I'm going to have to find a copy
@@TheLaymanVideoGamer you won't be disappointed. As I mentioned the enemy AI is much smarter making the game more fun opposed to repeated attack patterns and luring enemies off cliffs in the first 2 game (which I still enjoy too). My guess is Sega of Japan and Sega of America were beefing (as usual) so North America got screwed out of this classic. I don't know why else they wouldn't release this gem in 1993 peak Genesis years 🤔🤯
I generally don't end up too pleased with ROM hacks, but this one opens a can of worms I hope slippery slopes all the way to its logical end. Existing Genesis games with Arcade Backgrounds is a brilliant idea. The inclusion of the missing level segments and the Red Dragon in Turtle Village II is my favorite part of this one, even beyond the background details.
I also hope this 32X iteration gets the Arcade voice sample treatment other Genesis version ROM hacks have had.
God...the 32x and arcade version were the best versions. I love the textures and details across the backgrounds.
Me too! I agree
Enemy death in Sega CD version"Eff! 😳"
Golden Axe 3 is when the game play gets fun. It was so long ago I don't remember but something about playing as the cat guy made the game more fun, less like double dragon and more like a game where skill matters.
There was never a GA3. There was 1,2 and revenge of death adder
@@codenamecod2931 you better do a UA-cam search on
(" Golden axe 3 no damage")
And let all those people who made videos that they are wrong.
😜
It really needs those arcade voices
yep
I played this game in the arcade when it first came out…the Sega genesis version was and is the best home console version…no home version has been able to replicate the complete animation and most importantly the sound effects of the arcade original…this goes the same for the Revenge of Death Adder…
Splatterhouse 3 was my joint on Sega.
This is a nice comparison, but I think we need to take into contacts that the Genesis version of Golden ax wasn’t early title for the system and the 32X version is an unofficial port with a clear knowledge of the system gathered over 3 5 years of the Genesis and it’s add on I think the Sega CD had the better audio, it was using the arcade soundtrack but it used the sound effects from the Genesis version Wilder 32X virgin is clearly the audio from the genesis version.
Cancelled 32x games came to mind like Xmen COTA, Daytona USA and although not cancelled games Virtua Fighter 2 and some more Super Scaler ports.
Would love to see the potential of the 32x as quite some high profile games were scheduled to release on it at the time.
I would definitely get my hands on those if those were ever released (completed or not). I already have a half-dozen or so that I've got in my collection. I just love seeing the potential.
This is a cool idea and it's awesome someone programmed this to a 32x cart with proper packaging. I wouldn't buy this though as Golden Axe isn't worth $50 to me. Fun game but it's short and has limited replay value.
Even back in 1995 it would be tough to plunker down $50 for a six year old game that was available in numerous releases by that point (Genesis cart, 6 Pack cart, Sega CD pack-in). By this point we wanted games that had more depth and replay value. It wouldn't surprise me if Sega tried to re-release this for the 32x back in the day, they absolutely loved reissuing old games.
Anyway cool video, I can see this being a must-own for Golden Axe die hards
The Sega CD version seems just a little off from the original Genesis. The colors weren’t quite as muted on the OG cart, but definitely the 32x version still is a dramatic improvement.
They should have modded it to where the bad guys don't disappear when defeated but fall and turn to stone like in arcade.
I would love that too.
I've always had this disagreement with GameBoy Challenger on UA-cam who missed out Golden Axe from his video called "All Game Boy Advance Arcade Ports". He said that the version on GBA Sega Smash Pack wasn't an arcade port but instead a port of the Megadrive/Genesis version? But surely a port of a port of an arcade game (either the GBA version or this 32X version) is still classed as an arcade conversion in it's own right?
Adding shadow under character would make a huge difference 😊
That's an incredible version! At 50 bucks, mostly only collectors will buy it. If it was priced at 30 or less, it would definitely be on many people's to buy list, since it's one of the most beloved Genesis / Mega Drive games of all time.
"Many people's buy list" ?? LOL are you serious? "Many people" don't own a 32X 😂
@@mugsofmirth8101 Many people with a 32x, OBVIOUSLY! I don't have one, so I alternate between my arcade or the 16-bit version for nostalgia.
I could tell not even one minute into this video that I would want to subscribe to your channel-And I did! You're got a really cool style and format. Keep it up!
Oh thank you! 🙏🏻 I appreciate it.
that game is so great , thanks to the author of 32x version
The 32x was surprisingly capable. Lot of great games were planned and then canceled because sega never could seem to get their consoles in order.
I remember the cartridge version for the Mega Drive, before the change to Mega CD.
The new voice clips for the CD version were a huge downgrade, so it's great to hear the Mega Drive versions on the 32X edition.
Observation: Those "enemy killed" sound effects in level 1 of the Sega CD version are WAY different from the NTSC cart. They're awful! Just sounds like a guy saying "ow!" The original NTSC cart sfx sound like the 32X and arcade version, just lower quality.
Better graphics on 32X but the music is better on Sega CD.
Agreed!
My only complaint. I want the Conan aaaaargh scream in cd quality from the movie
I think they should have included the last level from the Genesis version, Golden Axe is a great game but a little too short. This version does look much closer to the arcade version and thats really nice and I just knew you were gonna buy this game!
I'm a sucker for any unreleased, canceled or games like this that never existed. I do love this version, but agree the game is too short.
I played this when it first came out, funnily enough it's a Genesis rom so I don't think you need a 32x to play it on actual hardware. Very nicely done, and more closer to the arcade for sure. However I prefer the Genesis/MD port as the best coz you got stage 7 making it the better game.
You do need the 32X to be able to play the 32X hack
Found myself with a few dead c64s so coming to yt for motivation 😅
Using the Sega CD version as a comparison is a bad idea. There are OBVIOUS audio enhancements done to the CD version. Why not just source the cartridge version or use a ROM? And as far as $50-$60 dollars for the 32x version... I just downloaded the patch and patched it myself to the game I already own. FOR FREE.
It looks like the 32X uses the background from the Arcade and.Sprites from the Mega Drive version.
people wouldn't have bought it back then because the market was completely different. People didn't care for remakes, they wanted the hot new thing, always
Did you forget about Virtua racing Deluxe and Mortal kombat for the Sega CD, and Mortal Kombat 2 for the 32X, and Nba Jam TE for the 32X, and Corpes Killer on the Sega 32X CD, and Primal rage on 32X, and Pitfall the Mayan adventure on the 32X, and WWF WrestleMania arcade on the 32X, as well as many others including yet a third version of NBA Jam on the Sega CD? 🤔
@@MobileDecay I'm talking about remakes of older titles here. Months apart is very different than years apart, especially back in those days where the technology, technique and design was improving at a crazy speed. I don't recall Space Harrier or After Burner flying off the shelves or being "hot" new titles when they released on 32X. Same thing would have happened to Golden Axe because by then, it was "very old"
Looks like only the backgrounds were taken care of. Sprites seem to be 1:1 with the 16bit version.
Awwan!!! I actually remember playing this at the PIZZA HUT 🍕, when it was still a sit down restaurant, w the salad bar, and jukebox along w 2 arcades....Golden Axe was one!.....man this brings back so many memories,..the smell o the inside restaurant, soomething aboutbPizza hut always smelled so goood and inviting, and while my mom n dad sat at the booth my brothees n i would play some GOLDEN AXE,...
I remember having either the axe or the sword...regardless it was so cool.....wow!!!! Bring me back to when i wasnlike 10/12 yrs old...thanks guys GOLDEN AAAAXE!!!!!! 😅😅😅. 🛡️ 🪓 ⚔️ 🗡️ 🪙 🪙 💀
I played this so much on Sega genius...
Can you imagine if PS5 and seriesX were programmed in C and Assembly? They would run games at 500 fps.
Games would also take 500 years to be made. Coding is a thing of the past for the most part.
@@Jolly-Green-Steve They would actually take less time to develop. I know from experience. There is a difference between what we all think and the reality. In therory you would be right, but in reality it is not like that for many reasons. I am not saying that we should replace the scripting in the game with c, but the engine below.
@@MarquisDeSang what are you talking about? all video game engines are made from code then those engines are used to then make the game. this is how it's been done since the 90s whether it was a companies own in-house made engine or another's like unreal.
@@Jolly-Green-Steve These clown have no idea how a cpu actually works or how their C++ code actually compile to. C++ allowed shitty programmers to get a job at a lower price. Real white men use only c and asm... and maybe holy-c if they are demi-god
I miss my sega CD, even tho that 32X Side by side comparison is easily the superior version
I'll always have a soft spot for my SEGA CD version
Is it impossible to create a version with the corpses remaining and scaling sprites at the character select screen?
not impossible
That would be cool
I think it would be totally possible even only for Genesis if it were launched around 95
Fun fact: The death sounds and the grunts are ripped from Rambo First Blood.
Is that true? That would be cool.
@TheLaymanVideoGamer yeah dude: ua-cam.com/video/QuUBsp1kjBs/v-deo.htmlsi=coc69PbUZI4yYK1F
well I didn't know this existed, neat
This trearment is what aMaru is doing with Ghouls n ghosts. Not a 32x version tho. Check it out.
Graphically, the 32X version made by the programmer is clearly a step-ahead; however, to my ears, it didn't solve my biggest issue with the original Mega Drive sound: the sudden interruption of the soundtrack in order to have the digitized voice while the enemy dies. That's the only nag I have about it.
The Genesis version was pretty good already there's no need to upgrade, the real question why didn't anyone port the Arcade version of Golden Axe 2?
I'd play that for sure!
the 32x game looks great and it is only missing the arcade voices from the golden axe plus hack. but anything is better than hearing OW
Can never understand why Sega could never produce a system that can produce the arcade games at home. The Genesis certainly wasn't that.
The Sega CD Version sounds Different than the Standard Genesis version... mostly in the enemy death cries.
Instead of AAAhhhaaaaa it's just... oww
Weird
Where's the parallax scrolling from the arcade?
No scaling on the magics is very disappointing
This is actually quiet nice, however i don't own a 32x i mean i was but, not anymore these days, however i'd love to try it on a decent emulator if the rom would be available
The ROM is definitely available ou there.
What is the background music from?
I like the Sega CD colors more.
Sega confused us soo much I just stuck to my Genesis. Then went straight to PS1 not dealing with the bs of even the Saturn marketing or lack of.
They did confuse us. No doubt. I went straight from Sega CD to PS1 myself. Didn't buy the Saturn until much much later (within last few years). I also have the 32X NOW, but I used my friends 32X back in the day. Definitely not worth it back in the day, but I do enjoy it now.
This game should've been made for the 32X when it was out
33X?
Agreed!
@@MaxAbramson333 minus 1 X?
I need it
Is this pushing the 32X? It seems the biggest limit for those early MD games was just the ROM chip. This is a smaller jump than Streets of Rage was from the sequel, and all that was just a ROM 4x the size. The art seems more detailed and using more tiles. Not really that much more colorful.
I was hoping to have the scaling from the character selection implemented, and be more arcade perfect.
Though this is clearly an upgrade, It's not pushing the 32X by any means. To me that's where Sega missed the boat. If you're going to create a 32-bit add-on, then there better be a lot more games (than we actually got) that show off that power.
@@TheLaymanVideoGamer to be fair back in it’s day in its limited library half the games did do things the mega drive couldn’t. Virtua racing was a visible step up from the svp chip powered original port. As underwhelming Doom was it played at the proper frame rate, so for all its faults like small window, crap sound, enemies facing one direction, missing levels, it plays fine, a homebrew port shows what it could have been though. While the snes beats it in many ways, the choppy frame rate basically cancels out all those things and renders it unplayable. Using the Jaguar maps would have given it a better frame rate.
Virtua fighter on it showed what you can do. The polygon count was lower, but with less flickering and smooth frame rate it was a better experience than the original Saturn game.
As a former owner of the 32X, I have a soft spot for it. It did feel like it was a step up for the Mega Drive, but not big enough considering the Saturn and PlayStation were literally just months away.
I would have hoped with the 32x power they would have either ported the sequel return of death adder, or just add massive improvement. What they did here they didn’t really need a 32x. A 16mbit rom chip would have done these improvements.
alright - I mean I feel like I didn't miss anything playing the original Genesis version.
IT's a nice upgrade, but yeah... I agree.
That ow sound on the Sega CD version is pretty annoying lol. Wish they would have put in the intro like in the arcade though.
Looks like a rom hack mix of arcade and megadrive. The Sega cd version has better quality music and speech than the arcade and has all the little jingles in the background on the boss stage's and you will get that in some emulation device's.
Sega cd version has different sound FX from the genesis version
Now let's get a strider 32x along with vector man and clone wars and a sonic with more colors wouldn't hurt.,..oh and eternal champions 1&2😂
I would be ALL IN!
32x has a 30 fps frame limit...... ftw!!!!
I’m not sure why you wouldn’t go with a 32x cd version of the game tbh
That would have been amazing!
I want one... where I get this?
I got it off Etsy, but the ROM is available for free somewhere.
What happened to "oh gaaaaad!!"?
not a fan of the 32x, just did the rom patch and added it to launchbox. If you already own the entire collection for 32x i guess why not . I dont see it worth the investment
I would say this is CLEARLY for those who are either collectors or big Golden Axe fans. Totally agree.
Golden Axe is a good start, but it still needs more hacking!!!!
Now who's waiting for ALTERED BEAST 32X!?
Sign me up!
I want the rom 😊
Fast load on 32x )))
looks fantastic too bad is single player, but perhaps it can be implemented some day
I'm very hopeful 🙏🏻
@@TheLaymanVideoGamer why would they make it only one player thats what made the sega cd one not too good back in the 90's
@@JunkerDC it’s still possible they may go back and do that. I’m hopeful. But yeah, wish this was a 2-player co-op
Glad you made a video about it. I love the fact that molders are familiar with the 32x and can update older games to benefit from the 32x. I'd love to see a more robust Eternal Champs or Outrun. That might make me crack.
@@samfrito I would get either of those in a heartbeat!
32x version very close to the arcade; not arcade perfect but very close.. it missing speech; the " Oh God" taken from David Caruso in first blood.
If its 2 players, then we can just burn the cd version
You can jump up the rock platform at the start not half way through
Hard Pass, i might download the rom someday......!!!
If Sega had made this back in the day, I never would have sold off my 32X.
First of all my friend you need show the Sega CD version on a Real Sega CD HARDWARE to make it Fair the Comparison between the two games👍 !!! Cause it seems clearly that you are using an Emulator with the > 2x SAI FILTER on the Sega CD version😬 !!!!
It was real hardware. I don't do emulators.
@@TheLaymanVideoGamer NOPE !!! you are using an Emulator with the > 2x SAI FILTER on the Sega CD version >> I GOT THE SEGA CD VERSION AND I KNOW HOW IT REALLY LOOKS ON A TV !!!
@@mode7perspective27 incorrect.
@@TheLaymanVideoGamer you are using an Emulator with the > 2x SAI FILTER on the Sega CD version !!!! PERIOD !!!
@@mode7perspective27 if that makes you feel better then by all means.
Audio is different on the Mega Drive compared to the Mega CD, Mega CD has arcade audio. Mega CD version is one player only.
You need to compare the OG arcade version to the 32x.
And the dead enemies do not disappear on the arcade version.
32x version has only one real difference (the background)
Honestly a pointless conversion.
Low framerate capture makes both of them appear not so great.
Something is seriously wrong with your setup. Whenever sprites move, they kinda bounce around and distort the area around them.
Huge fail, HUGE... Always wondered about the fact that no version NEVER FUCKING ACTUALLY HAD A GOLDEN AXE?!?!?
Gillus' axe still isnt golden. Missed opportunity.
Only 5 player. The sega genesis had 2 players at the same time.
Too dark.... Pyron's color hack looks better.
doesn't look that much different to me seems like a waste of time
The programmers used the 32x color palette but neglected to use its audio and better sprites. I do not like that! The programmers used Genesis sprites and sound and used just some of 32x colors! Lazy ass programming! I rate this 3 thumbs down because the programmers are using Genesis chips only and slapping the name 32x for hype! 32x is far superior then Genesis hardware specs in every way!!! They can't fool a person that really knows how 32x operates!
It’s literally the same game as the original game…
You should be comparing this to the arcade version. If you absolutely must draw a Genesis comparison use the cart version, the CD version removes many sound effects to fit into RAM. Anyway, next to the arcade... Yea this version is pure trash bro! I mean for F's sake Gillis Thunderhead hasn't even got a "gold" colored axe. How hard is it to recolor a damn spright? Far as I'm concerned arcade was first, so arcade is the original definitive version. This might be better than the original port, but its clearly NOT like the arcade version (Jesus just look at them side-by-side)... So any effort involved (and whatever you paid for that abomination) was all for NOTHING.
Pah Wonderswan is better
This port is so pointless it's not even funny, the 32x version could've been done on a base genesis.
Especially looks easy if you can't count to 61. Or even a tiny bit beyond half that.
I wouldn’t say it’s pointless. I rather enjoyed it, they did a great job of bringing it closer to the arcade game.
No offense. But WHAT IS THE POINT of being a 32x nerd? We have emulation. Unless your intention is to document tech history at the hardware level, these games are available without messing with obsolete hardware.
Not sure I qualify as a 32X nerd, but thank you. I'll take it. I'm a big nostalgia guy and I just prefer playing on the hardware. Nothing against emulation. I just like the feel of the original hardware, the original controllers, etc. That's what I grew up with.
Not even close to arcade perfect.
Still crap. Why bother with this compromised version when you can quite easily play the actual arcade rom, the real deal?
Sega 32X was crap sega didn't need it because we already had the Sega Genesis