I Tried No Cleaning Fees for my Airbnb. Heres what i learned
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2022
- Airbnb's cleaning fees are insane lately. So I gave away housekeeping with my airbnb reservations for free. Here is what you can learn from my experience. This will give SOME of you a really powerful opportunity, the rest of you... you'll know why you need to be selling your strengths instead of your cleaning fee.
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I’ve been in the cleaning business since 1994. Started with a small office but within 10 years was managing 1 million+ sqft. Eventually switched to completely medical/lab cleaning. Then I started an Airbnb business. My properties are immaculate.
Paying by the hour is as relevant as blood letting. My cleaners are well trained, work hard, and make $1000 per week. We work as teams, My Team Leader makes $1200 per week. Then we have a year end profit share bonus. I want each person to take ownership.
@seans videos are so well put together and professional. Nobody is as good as Sean. I stand by his content
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Snap of the figure 12:22 Love it. thanks for this. I think this was so timely as I am looking for a building in the hood but hope it will be a comeback area. Thanks - This makes me do more research in area I'm thinking about
You mean Gentrification.
You are part of the problem.
I’m watching this from my home in Banff Canada with a view of Sulphur Mountain where you bought your Tshirt. A little zen moment happening. We have an Air BnB in Banff and We’ve learned so much from your videos. Thanks.
You are in such a beautiful part of the world. I'll be visiting again soon.
@@AirbnbAutomated It's a special place and being an Air Bnb hosts has been so positive, people are just so happy to be here. Lots of good vibes.
Thanks bro! Way bigger than a hotel. More comfort fasure! Everything at your hands. Your the best
Again a great video with tremendous insight thanks Sean
Glad you enjoyed it
You're really the goat! Idk why you don't have 1 million plus subscribers👏🏾
This is really a tiny niche. I would need to talk to a larger audience. But I’m happy here in this corner of UA-cam. And thanks!
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You are so welcome!
What’s the FB group called?
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Hey @Sean you have been such a huge help as I've gotten my Airbnb off the ground. I was hoping to see a video from you about the newest Airbnb updates that came out 11/16/22. They removed the pre-message and ALL criteria for instant booking from both my listings without notifying me in any way - no email, alert in the app or message in my account, or even a mention of this happening in their "10 changes" video! Therefore, I didn't notice this until a new booking came through with a guest who is brand new to Airbnb, no reviews, etc. I've turned on their new, minimal version of guest screening for instant booking, but I know you've recommended that before only with the use of this pre-booking message. Now that it's gone, what do you advise??
We are doing Mio multiple update videos through the end of the year
So what do you actually pay your cleaners? Because it looks like you only pay $12 an hour by time they have done the mini deep cleaning? Can you find good cleaners for $12 hr? If they have to supply all consumables then they are working for free. You must have the labor fining you constantly?
There's good and bad with hotels and Airbnbs. Just stayed at a hotel in the mountains, ( off season), and got a good rate with a good breakfast without grocery shopping or cooking. The bad, I had people beside me that came in late and were up making noise till three in the morning.
Oh man im definitely joining that group!!!
Great video topic. Whoever thought of this topic is a genius
Thank you 😊
The question I am still asking is can I drop the cleaning fee and adequately make up for it by raising my base rates?
Agreed. He never answered that
I have been selling on ebay since 1997, thus is EXACTLY what happened with eBay on shipping fees when the platform was new. Airbnb adjusted the "banner" price in order to better communicate how total fees will be reflected, but I am currently experimenting with "no cleaning fee" in the title of the listing, haven't noticed any uptick in bookings, just slob guests... As a host in a mountain area there simply aren't any name brand hotels and trying to compete like a hotel for me has been unsuccessful. Further I don't want a "hotel" guest I'm looking for guests that value the property, hotel price matchers aren't in my experience those folks.
Did that, but far too many other problems w Airbnb, VRBO, etc. First of all hotels get paid up front, where Airbnb holds money then puts both parties on a judge and jury and the time it takes to play that game is too costly.
You are a very intelligent man.
You said here’s what I learned, and didn’t say shit lol 😂
Does this video have the correct title? What did you learn Sean? Found it very hard to extract what the video title promises.
I've never had a cleaning fee, I do clean my one cabin myself (professional skills).....High end one bedroom with killer view in the smokies, rents for $400ish/nt for 2 people, no pets or kids. I'm able to advertise mine higher priced than others who have high end with a cleaning fee but I'm actually slightly less when the cleaning fee is added to theirs. I feel I'm being honest in advertising the "actual" price. I want the guests who look for "the best" rather than guests looking for "best deal". $111,000 gross income each of the last 2 years. (I think a mid priced str, family looking for deal accommodations, would suffer without a cleaning fee, right now. Making your advertised price above the rest who, are actually the same price, in the end)
I also think cleaning fees should be included in the price and never seen by guest. You don't share what all the other costs with guests, why cleaning??? I'm old school, 37 years of "vacation destination" str's & the guest is #1 in any property decisions. Never saw "cleaning fees" unitl 10 years ago. Site fee & taxes, total of 25% ($100/night) are added to my advertised price and that's crazy enough, ha!
I also believe cleaning fee was introduced as a way to advertise lower price and get the click and now that everyone is doing it, it don't work the same! ......just my opinion based on years of hosting :)
Well said.
Problem with adding your cleaning fee to the night,y rate, your nightly rate will be higher at first glance to people that have separate cleaning fees. So you might not even get looked at because they assume a cleaning fee will be added to your "already high" nightly rate. Until airbnb forces every host to void cleaning fees, I wont
My concern is competing with other properties, with built in cleaning fee, they may not click on me to see no cleaning fee. If I do this, should I say no cleaning fee in title or tile in my hero photos saying no cleaning fee?
You could make a "bubble". like the superhost one. but have it say "NO CLEANING FEE". put it on your hero photo.
I just want to say Thank you for creating this channel, and sharing..!
I'm in Dallas, looking forward to meeting you and thanking you in person.. I'm picking up Everything you put down.💪🏽🎯📈
Happy to help!
Have never charged a cleaning fee, it has always been included in my booking fee.
As it should be! Thank you
We decided to generally allow 1-2 hour early or late checkins for free. We were asking for $20, but probably 90% of people declined so we felt it would be better to earn good will, then a few $$
A manager wanted to charge us 100 to checkin 2 hours earlier. Made her seem greedy and renting from her feel gross
Would’ve rather just her said no
@@up518 exactly lol made you feel gross for even renting from (supporting) her 😅
Everybody is pushing monthly rentals. I don't think they make sense in a lot of areas.
One way they can completely make $EN$E is for locations that have really slow shoulder seasons
Can we talk about extra guest fee. What exactly that means? Should I charge extra guest fee after 1 guest or after max occupancy? Au
Families will use kitchens especially if they have small children. It keeps the cost down and if it’s more than a few days they’ll want to keep the kids in a dinner/bedtime routine. Eating out is expensive so of course they’ll use the kitchen (unless they are very wealthy!) Everyone saying the kitchen won’t get used are wrong in my opinion.
That's problem with short term rentals, they don't expect you use anything in the rental.
I was actually considering doing the same thing
When you say you are going to give content and instead give a commercial, it's a Bait & Switch.
What are your thoughts on Historic Stays? We own a significant historic house in our city that we are getting ready to list. How do we get listed under the historic category on Airbnb?
I also have 2 historic homes in a very historic town in the midwest. When Airbnb launched categories I asked when they'd have a historic home category. They are rolling out new categories all the time. I need to check again. In the meantime, I insert it in the description. Our houses were owned by a General so I bring out that story and even branded it General's Quarters (with a logo). Then I sell t-shirts and stuff with the logo in the unit.
In Michigan, is prohibited to turn the historic home into an Airbnb, you would get hit with crazy fines and they will shut you down! they want to keep the historical area as they are historical
Good video
sometimes i don't get you guys in Africa cleaning is free on Airbnb but to you guys is new
My city is putting in by laws that you need to register with them and on top of normal tax they want to charge a 4% extra tax, they say you have to sign up with them, and that they will force air bnb and vrbo, to send them data every every short term host information so they know, I think the government is lieing and trying to scare you into signing up with them, what should I do, the place is Halifax Nova Scotia Canada
as frequent Air B and B user I don't mind paying a reasonable cleaning fee but then don't ask me to put dishes away and rip sheets of the bed.. it's .either or.
Was the video about cleaning fees, or some free facebook group? Can't tell - the title says cleaning, the video says facebook group...
I’m asking genuinely and curiously, how is the Mastermind filling up? And are folks who are making 1mil on STR really benefitting from and interested in help courses? Strikes me as a contradictory vision/market.
You know Sean is a great communicator and passionate person. I wonder if he uses his ability and skill to help people with their personal lives--for the greater good? I bet he does.
Please write an Airbnb book 📚
I can't sort out why Airbnb doesn't just let hosts set cleaning fees per stay, then bake that into the price without showing the guests.
There is a game to it if you change them. High fees can encourage longer stays etc, but Ultimately it's a nightly rate. The cleaning fee is an owner's expense, it's almost like Airbnb thinks we're all to dumb to budget.
The option, I’m more fond of, is to include something in the rules how to qualify for waived cleaning fee. Explicitly statin in rules that if the home isn’t left in a particular state, the fee will be charged. Seems like this could increase admin workload to charge after in Aircover. Also, we are using VRBO & direct bookings, seems this strategy would be more combative when not automated through Airbnb systems
"Rules". This is exactly why hosts are getting bad publicity. You treat your guests like children and it feels like their is an overbearing parent watching you during a stay. I won't stay at an airbnb anymore.
@@PSCA1988 yes Shama, Rules, just like at every hotel, motel or rv park there is.
@@PSCA1988 not really a rule but an option. If you clean it yourself you don't pay for them to do it.. makes sense to me.
Airbnb needs to make the cleaning fee a separate line item within the payout system, I have to collect at check in so get the full fee, I'm a property manager so I have splits to deal with and with the split and aidbnb fees, airbnb and the home owner get 80% of the fee and I'm left paying out of pocket up front. Then I have to find out how to bill airbnb and the home owner for the cost of the fee......
This is more about how you do your math with your owner. As the professional this is on you.
@@AirbnbAutomated the platform we use to advertise the listing should not be profiting from the users cleaning fee. Is all I'm saying.
Then you could charge $10 a night and have a $1000 cleaning fee and a 10 night minimum stay. That’s how you would game that system
@@AirbnbAutomated if airbnb takes the total night stay and the cleaning fee as 1 number to pull their 7% then sends it through the split pay out of 20-80% how am I getting a 1000.00 cleaning fee?
What I am saying is that if they decided not to charge their fees on the revenue generated from a cleaning fee, you could then make your cleaning fee the entirety of your caused an advertiser place at an insanely low price. This would bypass airbnb collecting anything of substance on your nightly rate
Old City* not old town 😏
I love what you teach. I would like it if you didn’t speak so fast. I loose my desire to focus when you go so fast.
Have you tried the playback speed in settings? Can set to 0.75x speed or lower.
I have already tried no cleaning fee
And?????
And????
Worked out well over a year now cleaning fee @@AttitudeCharter
Video summary: lower your housekeeping costs if you have to have hourly paid housekeeping or get rid of the cost and build it into your booking price.
Sean,
No shade, you should consider disguising your sales tactics more. Most of this video felt like you pitching your other courses or coaching products or sales funnels. I understand this video is part of your sales funnel but it’s SUPER salesy for a UA-cam video. This type of video might work better on Facebook or on a live.
Not sure what your click through rates are, but if you’re seeing a sharp drop off you should change. As a watcher, this video felt like a long MLM or get rich quick pitch.
Side note: you have very good thumbnails and titles. Plus your editing style is attention grabbing.
Huge compliment. Thank you!
It’s the most that I’ve casually plugged my coaching. For a newer viewer it’s absolutely a bit much. 90% of my videos I barely mention my free facebook group let alone my coaching. This topic is one of the ones I do paywall some Info though
do hotels and motels charge a "cleaning fee" ????
David didn't watch the video
@@LeroyGrider no-- will do..
welcome to the video David. Hope you enjoy it.
Do hotels offer 3,000 square feet of living space ?
@@sean4060 Yes. They are called penthouses or presidential suites, and those don't have cleaning fees.
Ahh problems of the problem creators.
Can't wait for the AirBnBust, these videos will change to people explaining how to get rid of property without losing your shirt.
When society collapses, I hope they come for your properties. LOL
They aren’t even mine. LOL
Nice marketing spiel! 🤮
Hotels dont have to compete with your fully furnished kitchen…Nobody NEEDS “full size” fridge or stove etc while staying anywhere short term, thats just silly, not a selling point. Unless they coming to cook specifically…so less than 1%.
what would be the length of stay where a full size kitchen starts to matter?
As a hotelier of over 10 years
That’s ridiculous to suggest it’s only 1% of guests that care about larger kitchens or any kitchens
There is certainly a line here between opinion and experience. Run on experience. Let those with opinions do their thing
All depends on the area and if you are traveling to area with families in mind yes kitchens do matter
Forget the kitchens. The amount of space is a superior feature. To have a hotel room Match the size of an Airbnb apartment, you’d need to rent a presidential suite which is very expensive