Oddworld Lore: The Three Weirdos
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Oddworld Lore: The Three Weirdos is a video on Oddworld lore by pupbenny that takes a closer look at the Mudokon ghostly spirits known as The Three Weirdos, also known as Those Dudes Now Dead, from Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus who ask for the help of Abe as the saviour of the Mudokons to put a stop to the Glukkons mining operations and shut down SoulStorm Brewery.
Oddworld was created by Lorne Lanning who founded Oddworld Inhabitants which has produced many games, Including Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus, Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee, Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath and Oddworld: Soulstorm. I find the Oddworld lore fascination and hope to bring the Oddworld universe to life by telling the story of it and it's characters, creatures and locations so that they can be explained and theorised about by delving into Oddworld theory and the lore of the universe of the Oddworld games!
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I've just realised they said 'Spirit Powers' Not 'Scary Powers'. Whoops. Always sounded like 'Scary Powers' to me. XD Maybe the out-of-placeness of 'scary powers' is why I found that line so funny. Now I know why it seemed so out-of-place: HE DOESN'T SAY IT! lol.
It's so weird, I keep replaying it back now and can't unhear 'Spirit Powers' LOL. It's completely changed my perception of this line LMAO.
Abe already has scary powers if you think about it. He basically gave the slig survivors from the meat factory PTSD.
I always remembered it as scary powers from playing when I was younger.
I always thought it was scary powers! It must be the accent they have.
I feel ya, I remember watching the M.O.M News in Exoddus and thinking that Phleg said "And it's all that blue bastard F***!"
Took me a couple years to realize he said "fault"
Love that big face nearly kills abe right after saving him and holding his hand up for the crowd.
Yeah, then I guess he'd have to put another guy through the trials lol.
It would be hilarious if abe died after falling, it would mean big face killed the guy who passed both trials, and shut down rupture farms (in one day or 2?) oh how guilty he would feel ;P
@@badsie1wouldn't he be able to bring him back to life? He did it once, and he could do it twice
@@pupbenny Only abe could do it though? He's a symbol of a saviour. The chosen one.
The Three Weirdos are characters that have such a unique personality among the mentor figures of Oddworld. They're unique situation, motivations and humour certainly make them distinct and really likeable. Plus they can give Abe SCA-A-A-R-Y POW-WAHS!!!!
I remeber that in Soulstorm abe got the recipe for the brew antidote from a sick mudokon rather then coming up with it himself.
I think that entire antidoe mechanic whould have worked better if they kept the idea of Feeco being the hub for the rest of the game. Let me explain: The first few levels in the game were probably intended to be tutorial levels ( Monsaic Lines, Gorge, Sorrow Valley, Phat Station) that would lead up the Feeco Deepot. Feeco would have been a hub world that abe could have used to access the other factories (Slig Baracks, Bonewerkz, Necrum) via the hijacked train. Then abe whoud have to venture all of these levels before ending at Sousltorm Brewery. Prior to this Abe would have had collected ingredients from different levels in the game and ( like exoddus) would have to return to certain areas to go back and save sick muds. I think this because I remember there being a shot in Soulstorm that shows different locations on the map with pictures that represent different ingreedients.
abe should have asked for every power they can give him
@@goblinden6380 That would've been really good if they'd implemented the hub idea. Would've been totally different and I think would've worked better. The thing about Abe getting the recipe from sick Mudokons is it shows that any other Mudokon could've come up with it, which kinda baffles me as to why it took Abe to do it instead.
@@badsie1 Yeah that would've been really helpful haha.
I mean for the spirits of mudokons, they pretty much act like Mudokons. Most of their species act like self righteous assholes who are selfish, but do have a slight sense of care for each other. It makes Abe pretty much look like their Jesus who can do no wrong (unless you get the bad ending lol).
Yeah that's true lol.
9:56 I remembered that during the Vietnam War, the United States forces played tapes of Vietnamese wandering souls that were meant to scare the Viet Cong and make them defect. The usage of lost spirits who warn about respecting the dead works for the Weirdos but most importantly it parallels the Shrinks
Yeah, it's interesting to see examples of this kind of thing happening. Would be fascinating if it was direct inspiration for Oddworld Inhabitants with the Shrinks too.
4:15 Taking into account that the Meeches were going to have their own temple in Abe's Oddysee before being cut from the game, I feel like the third one representing a Fleech might be either a retcon or a typo in the artbook. It doesn't make much sense for Fleeches to be as sacred as Scrabs and Paramites since we know that their current form is a product of experimentation by Vykkers, and they are only present in Necrum because young Glukkons usually throw them into the sewers when they start growing.
Yeah that's a really good point I hadn't thought about. It would certainly have made way more sense if it was meant to be the Meeches.
Abe did get hints on what could help make the Mudokens feel better from what the survivors said, so although it is unlikely, it still makes sense on how you figured it out.
if the cartel knows about ghosts, you KNOW the Vykers are making ghostbuster equiptment and selling "ghost-be-gone" deodorant
LOL Vykker Ghostbusters! That'd be a fun concept for them to explore.
Man I can never get enough of your oddworld content, I love how you keep these games alive and well after all those years!
I wonder why Abe never straight-up never used the Shrykull again in the old quintology, my man had the scars to summon and use the power of an unholy demigod of destruction and just uses it to shut down Rupturefarms.
He used it a couple of times in Exoddus, but just in gameplay iirc, it's not like a main story event in that one for some reason, which is weird because, as you said, it'd be so much simpler to just destroy everything lol. It's complete absence in Munch's Oddysee is REALLY weird.
I always felt bad for the blind mudokons in this game
See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil
I don't know why, but I could never get into Soulstorm. I rescued every Mudokon in Oddysee, Exoddus and New'N'Tasty, but I couldn't even finish Necrum in Soulstorm.
I did love the weirdos. It always felt like they were being just a little mean to Abe.
Soulstorm's certainly very different and definitely not to everyone's tastes, understandably.
Yeah, I always found it funny and just interesting the weird way the weirdos treated Abe!
Oddworld holds a special place in my heart, so it always makes me happy to see how much life you bring to it's world. Always a joy to see a new video, even when I think I already know so much about the topic you really do the deep dives to go beyond. Love the videos and appreciate the work you do for them.
Nice to see you post again been waiting for new content from you!
Thank you, I hope I can provide some good new stuff for you! :)
@@pupbenny Definitely man, You deserve a lot more subs than what you have and I hope one day you get to actually obtain an interview with the creator, I can imagine youd have some great questions for him.
While I was a bit bummed these guys didn't show up in Soulstorm, I think the two priestess characters we got in the opening and during the Necrum segment managed to keep the otherworldly coolness of these guys while fitting the darker, less on the nose tone that Soulstorm took compared to Exoddus.
Keep the content coming, your vids have renewed my interest in this franchise after flying under my radar for a long time.
Thank you, I'll do my best! :) It's a shame they weren't in Soulstorm, but I agree the, I guess, alternative characters to them were really mysterious and intriguing, and at least it was a new concept that we hadn't really seen before too!
@@pupbenny The catacomb of all the elders who had come before really leant weight to the idea that the Mudokens have been under the yolk for a LONG time, especially how deep in Necrum they were located.
9:50 what you said about industrial forces using superstition to scare local peoples reminded me of when the U.S would try to scare away the Vietnamese by playing audio that consisted of fallen Vietnamese soldiers warning their living soldiers from beyond the grave.
I think there should've been another mudokon that acted as the scientist constructing cures
Yeah, that would've made more sense to me!
The last one maybe is not representing fleeches, but maybe Meeches, since they would had been the third trial for Abe originally
They could have made the sick mudokkans give hints about the cure ingredients by saying things like "i felt better after eating this plant", "i stopped feeling so bad when I was in a cave full of sleeches". I think that may have been a good way of making it less jarring.
Pupb you are an absolute beast!
Another excellent, entertaining video. Thank you for the work you put into this channel. I grew up playing Oddworld, and I love it even more now that I found you!
One of the best channels i know
Thank you very much! That means a lot, I'm really happy you feel that way! :)
Easily.
I've always thought that the three weirdos are the spirits of the warriors of the Mudomo and Mudanchee tribes, I wonder if the fact that they don't have all their body parts is because the Glukkons took their bones or because when they died they lost some arms or legs or the whole torso... I think the first, because the spirits trapped in ghost traps are just green lights, yet they are the same spirits, so I assume that those are spirits whose body has been deprived of all bones and therefore he was left with only the soul. (I probably explained myself badly). I don't think that industrialists don't believe in the existence of Mudokon spirits, or simply those who don't believe it are those Glukkons who don't work there directly, (Like Aslik, Dripik, Phleg, Mullock...) If all industrialists don't they believed there would be no sense in ghost traps placed in the necrum to keep the spirits at bay while the Glukkon desecrate their bones. Have you noticed that there are ghost traps in the Feeco depot as well? Strange right? I think they are there because perhaps some mudokon spirit tried to enter the Glukkon factories to take revenge, but they got stuck here. By the way, I never understood what those green "crystals" were that we see when we set off a trap, perhaps a type of gem that has the power to hold back spirits or a kind of altar decoration that other mudokons create for their deceased where the traps were then built. All in all, I think the weirdos are a good presence, but also aggressive if they want, let's remember that they were still warriors! (or shamans) I love those three!
Yeah, I was thinking while making this whether to talk about the spirit locks and their potential connection to the three weirdos but decided that'd be a good video of itself. I suppose they were mainly a gameplay interpretation of the ghosts but I really want to dive more in-depth in information about them. :)
I always thought they said scary powers aswell lol
it's a relief that I'm not the only one lol.
🤔👻💀 Interesting trully very interesting details View. Is kinda off but i belive the Shamman could have teaching something and gifted the bag too. Also Toby saw those Strange Lights , Is nice the reference More abstract and how Will they role in the New Soulstorm secual
I remember those 3 in Oddworld Abe's Exoddus. But it's really sad they are not in Oddworld Soulstorm
This is kinda pet peeve to me. The name "soulstorm" implies something wrong or powerfull about souls, I thought there was gonna be more focus on the tormented souls and more spirit powers.
I know it's the name of the drink but it being the title of the game I just thought it was gonna carry more meaning.
Yeah, it would've been intriguing to see what they would've done with the Weirdos had they reinterpreted them into Soulstorm.
wow you put amazing amount effort for for the littlest detail.
Does anyone think that the name "Weirdos" is a reference to the Weird Sisters from MacBeth?
The only reason why I think maybe not is because they play a rather different role as mentors, rather than prophets.
I hope to see more of the Glukkons and the Vykkers also I realized that Nolybab is Babylon backwards
Yeah I'd love to see more of them too! I hope to do a video about Nolybab soon. :)
Great video! I think if the weirdos gave him the power to possess farts it would have been less underwhelming than just the power to heal them. I thought it made sense regarding the timeline for this to be true but I looked into it and found nothing, so I don’t think this was the case.
I think the connection of the Mudokon spirits to the material world is based around ancient egypt after life, because the field of reeds it's a mirror world of our reality but perfect, and they need foods, amulets, etc to the journey, and if someone stole something of the tomb, the Pharaoh or any other person will lose it in the field of reeds.
That's a really good point, I hadn't thought of that! I used to be really interested in ancient egypt when I was younger, I should start looking into it again. I bet it's served as great inspiration to Oddworld Inhabitants.
This is fitting, since people used to eat mummies, thinking they had some sort of healing properties
I love the weirdos but why weren’t they included in the soulstorm remake?
It would have provided some much needed levity within an otherwise quite depressing game.
On the other hand if ghosts exist within the lore of OddWorld, I wonder what the spirits of Gabbits, Grubs,
And Steef are like.
Yeah it would've been interesting to see a reimagining of their characters on soulstorm. I bet Gabbit ghosts, at least, would be pretty weird looking haha.
Maybe the healing power is called “ Scary powers”, is that Abe is channeling spiritual energies to Cleanse the spirits of sick mudokons.
When you talked about how the Three Weirdos' Headdresses were related to the Sacred Animals at about 4:20 and further, I must disagree with you on what Headdress resembled what animal. I feel that One-Arm's five fingered Headdress resembles the Paramites five upper face finger things, and while One-Leg and Floaty's Headdresses are similar I think Floaty's is the Scrab one as the side-view reminded me of the upper jaw of the Scrabania cutscene's Scrab lifting it's head while howling. Before I started writing this comment I scrolled down to see if anyone also felt the same way as I didn't just want to make a duplicate comment but I didn't see any other comment about it, though I may have just missed it, but I did see the comments about how the third should be the extinct Meeches instead of Fleeches as Fleeches are an artificial creature and so I looked up what the Meeches might look like and from what I saw I think the tusk like things on One-Leg's Headdress might be the side jaw things of a Meech. I could be wrong though.
TLDR My thoughts are:
One-Arm = Paramite
One-Leg = Meech?
Floaty = Scrab
I'd have no idea if it really was Fleeches instead of Meeches.
No soulstorm weirdo's was a bit of a disappointment
Yeah it would've been nice if they'd been in it.
@@pupbenny could have been them that taught Abe about the sleech guano suppositories
I find it hard to believe that an ancient mudokon ghost would have any connections to fleeches. An artificially designed creature made by immoral industrialists.
That's a really good point! Someone above suggested it might be a retroactive change, maybe the other Weirdo was meant to represent Meeches but it was changed for some reason? It's really weird because it doesn't make that much sense for it to be Fleeches like the book says.
Love how much into the lore of this universe u r. I love oddworld so much I even helped pay towards the Kickstarter for soulstorm which ironically has made me miss exodus alot more with the final product that was soulstorm. But I love oddworlds sound and astetic
Can you make video about portal birds? I have no idea what is a case with them.
Yeah, that's a really interesting topic! :)
Another great video, giving odd world love
Thank you very much! :)
On one side I don't think they weren't needed in Soulstorm!
So makes sense them not bein' there...
Still the scene where Abe receives 'is chest tattoo in Soulstorm was the perfect scene to show 'em in the new universe... maybe as sufferin' Mud Spirits or somethin'
To be fair, he didn't Mac'Gyver the ingredients, more just trial and error from the other Mudoken's. He didn't know it would work like and even then, just smashing ingredients together for a cure, I'm willing to gamble there are some Mudoken's out there that haven't taken to the cure correctly. Though we'll never know.
I think the glowing eyes are interesting- they share those with the glukkons, and sektor when he possessed the body of the old steef. and interestingly, I don’t think sektors eyes had a comparable glow when he swam away. though that scene was in daylight so maybe that was what made the difference.
since I don‘t believe the weirdos are secret industrialists, the eyes may just be an artistic choice to make them creepy. But they may indicate the use of some spiritual power- and that could mean that glukkons and oktigi are constantly using that type of power. We know they used to be shamanic races and are still into witchcraft
I think the 3 wierdos are pretty cool 💪🏻
So do I. :)
I wonder what Ghost Gabbits might look like.
That would be intensely creepy I bet!
How can an ancient Mudokan (I've never actually played the games so I don't know how it's spelled) know about fleches if that animal was genetically engineered by industrialist vykkers?
Fleeches must've been around a long long time
That's a really good point I've never considered before! That does seem really weird that the Art of Oddworld Inhabitants book both says the Fleeches are made by the Vykkers, yet had something to do with ancient Mudokons.... I guess Fleeches must truly have been a really old creation.
@@pupbenny maybe they were made with magic?
after finally playing soulstorm I can definitely say exodus was better
A lot of people agree!
Random thing but I know there's a belief, or was I guess, among the native folk in my country that whatever happens to the body after death affects the spirit. So if your body is cremated or cannibalised it'll prevent you from experiencing an afterlife, so it's kinda cool to see a belief like that given to the Mudokens.
I always thought it was scaary powers too.
I'm glad I'm not the only one lol.
The intro scene used to freak me out so much as a kid
15:52 with graphics like that, I'd be scared too.
I think ... I remember putting in the disc for exodus (with the three weirdos on it) and a cutscene started; telling me, i have to go through the first game in order to play exodus - The cutscene features the three weirdos, floating around.. On Ps1 back then - After i had a save on my memory card from the first game played through, i could play exodus.
Native Americans believe in sacred burial a lot of modern haunting are connected to disturbed burial sites
4k60 lets go
Sligs believe in ghosts and trap them in locks in exodus :=
I don't care if they don't want to be disturbed, if digging up and crushing their bones makes me money im fine with it
its kinda messed up how desecrating the corpses also messed up the ghosts
brah imagine of old canon soulstorm brew was made out of eyeballs or organs or something messed up
Yeah, it's a really grim concept lol.
Weren't the fleeces made by the voters? Seems strange the mudokons would worship them
I thought they said spirit powers
OH, wait you're right! OOPS. Thank you for pointing this out!! Somehow I always heard it as 'Scary Powers'. XD It's so weird, I keep replaying it back and now I can't unhear 'Spirit Powers' LOL.
I didn't want a review of a game I wanted lore
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Dude, I feel bad. Because I really want to like soulstorm, but every time I see something new about it, it makes me glad I didn't buy it.