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Metal Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater Comparison To Metal Gear Solid V Phantom Pain

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  • Опубліковано 25 жов 2023
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  • @fedfed96
    @fedfed96 Місяць тому +59

    MGSV controls feel so good

    • @Toudreyte6501
      @Toudreyte6501 15 днів тому

      Are you insane?

    • @fedfed96
      @fedfed96 15 днів тому +6

      @@Toudreyte6501 are you?

    • @sprayender2002
      @sprayender2002 5 днів тому

      ​@@Toudreyte6501he isn't the controls are "prerty good" in my opnion, when you get the hang of it,

  • @rotschimmel
    @rotschimmel Місяць тому +21

    The Phantom Pain achieved gameplay perfection already 9 years ago.

  • @Molduking
    @Molduking 9 місяців тому +210

    I’m glad it’s so similar, I just want more mgsv. Tho I know it wont have what that game had

    • @Spiderdoom-hg3iy
      @Spiderdoom-hg3iy 9 місяців тому +22

      its mgs3 i hope they slow it down mgsv is just too smoothe it'd make mgs3's areas braindead easy

    • @khangvinh4656
      @khangvinh4656 9 місяців тому +34

      @@Spiderdoom-hg3iyi don’t think they was talking about how fast snake is moving but rather the features that was in mgsv. That game was packed with interesting mechanics that wasn’t present in older games.

    • @PureRando
      @PureRando 7 місяців тому +11

      ​@khangvinh4656 imo, I don't think the sprint or quick dive will make it over, but the roll will most likely return in it's place.

    • @Mad_Luv85
      @Mad_Luv85 6 місяців тому +4

      id prefer that to be honest. i also hope they get of the skeletal system with spotting enemy , although i loved mgs5 i could do without that crap, i prefer the older games.@@PureRando

    • @PureRando
      @PureRando 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Mad_Luv85 They will most likely remove that since there isn't Binoculars with iDroid tech in MGS3/D and return to the old spotting system for enemies where it's dependant on difficulty and the camo index %.

  • @DeathCS
    @DeathCS Місяць тому +59

    I love the smoothness of all the new animations..

    • @Loquacious_Jackson
      @Loquacious_Jackson Місяць тому +2

      they look worse, especially the crouch walking

    • @miguelangeljaja4293
      @miguelangeljaja4293 Місяць тому +2

      @@Loquacious_Jackson how is the crouch looking worse?

    • @FMJ1400
      @FMJ1400 Місяць тому +3

      @@Loquacious_Jackson They look great, and If you look at the original MGS3 its clear Konami is trying to keep the original style the animations had back then

  • @BasedSherpa
    @BasedSherpa 9 місяців тому +83

    I just want Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 remakes in that engine. Solid Snake vs Venom and Big Boss in 3D

    • @gergelyboros8138
      @gergelyboros8138 Місяць тому +4

      THIS

    • @alexdeghost2729
      @alexdeghost2729 Місяць тому +2

      They’d mess up the story tho

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie Місяць тому +4

      These are 2 different engines just to be clear.
      MGS3 is unreal and MGSV was Fox engine

    • @ErenTheWarcriminal
      @ErenTheWarcriminal Місяць тому +3

      @@RusticRonnie Delta is made in UE5, so they can use the basis of that for 1 and 2 I'd reckon.

    • @SlowWinterNuts
      @SlowWinterNuts Місяць тому

      @@alexdeghost2729
      I feel like they'd make it better considering how simple the story and writing of those two games were.

  • @beatyoudown234
    @beatyoudown234 9 місяців тому +36

    Glad I'm not the only one that noticed this

  • @gergelyboros8138
    @gergelyboros8138 Місяць тому +13

    MGSVs gampley is superior, but the story... it left me with a phantom pain...:(

  • @jme-james
    @jme-james 9 місяців тому +34

    Say what you will about 5, but 5 was best gameplay of all the metal gear games. It was a nice blend of Peace Walker and 4 which made it so fun to play.
    Of course the story is bad but I find myself replaying 5 because it's fun to do stuff in it than every other metal gear.

    • @spicydong317
      @spicydong317 9 місяців тому +9

      The problem I had with MGS5 was the open world, it's just too much hustle between boring outposts and empty corridors (Afghan) or fields (Africa)
      Proper enemy bases were so much fun, because of good gameplay mechanics and level layouts, but it's just not enough to make me replay that game again
      I find myself replaying Ground Zeroes more, lol
      MGS3 with slower MGS5 gameplay sounds amazing

    • @jme-james
      @jme-james 9 місяців тому +5

      @@spicydong317 true.
      I forgot which UA-camr it was but they said such a great and perfect statement about Mgs5 when compared to the open world of GTA5. They said something along the lines this:
      "When you turn off GTA5, it feels like the open world is still going with or without you. When turn off Metal Gear solid 5, it feels like they all stop and wait for snake to log back on and do nothing."

    • @ToshisGarden
      @ToshisGarden 9 місяців тому

      I personally say the more unorthodox content of Peace Walker (the Monster Hunter fights, the date missions, the Cocoon fight, the Pooyan missions, etc) combined with the 2-4 player co-op make Peace Walker the more fun experience. Braking out of prison in co-op as well as fighting the final boss and fighting all the super bosses were always highlights for my friends and I.
      I respect your opinion, though, and I willing to acknowledge that MGSV has both the best controls as well as the best accessibility out of all the games! I hope to someday see Peace Walker and Portable Ops both come to modern consoles (as well as PO+) so that some of the best fights in the series have a chance to shine once more! Gene is still one of my favorite villains in the franchise and has one of my favorite themes, lol.

    • @mrSlippinidiot
      @mrSlippinidiot Місяць тому

      Fuckin loved the story, it was unfinished for me.

  • @Sp33ddialz
    @Sp33ddialz 29 днів тому +7

    The fact that they made a whole engine called "fox" for MGSV and decided "nah, lets just use unreal engine for the snake eater remake" haha

  • @sootierlamb3223
    @sootierlamb3223 Місяць тому +8

    I hope that it only takes some things from MGSV I still want it to be snake eater just with a couple things from V

  • @junjung2975
    @junjung2975 Місяць тому +1

    Yeah but
    Mgs v could run at 50 fps on my ancient non gaming laptop from 2012
    What an amazing engine that fox engine was

  • @notmegaming9038
    @notmegaming9038 Місяць тому +5

    nice to see mg5 engine "remastered"
    It didnt get nearly enough use

    • @Gray_Box
      @Gray_Box Місяць тому +9

      It's Unreal not Fox engine. It's just mimicking MGSV's mechanics.

  • @user-vc8rf3my7g
    @user-vc8rf3my7g Місяць тому +1

    MGS5 gameplay for MGS3, i cant wait ong

  • @Mohi_H03
    @Mohi_H03 22 дні тому +1

    mgsv had the best gameplay. so happy to see the same on the new game

  • @Spiderdoom-hg3iy
    @Spiderdoom-hg3iy 9 місяців тому +39

    i hope this is just cuz its in pre alpha cuz mgs3 needs to be way slower than 5

    • @ToshisGarden
      @ToshisGarden 9 місяців тому +24

      Snake having more capablities doesn't necessarily mean it will be any faster paced of a game. If anything, it very well also means the enemies could be a lot more capable, able to plan/react/coordinate better and pick up on things better than they were able to before. There's all of that, plus you have to consider how the survival elements will control the pace of the game, assuming they're bringing those back and maybe even building on them. If anything, this has potential to be more tactically involved than the initial version, Subsistence, and even MGS3D.

    • @duolingosbigbrother532
      @duolingosbigbrother532 5 місяців тому +3

      @@ToshisGardenthank you, and if anything, snake being more like this is better cause I’m assuming they’re 100% gonna add new challenges and mechanics

    • @chrisroberts6797
      @chrisroberts6797 Місяць тому

      Don’t worry we’ll still have the ladder section 😂

    • @RusticRonnie
      @RusticRonnie Місяць тому

      @@duolingosbigbrother532no they said the level layout will be the same so the game will probably just be alot shorter

  • @CrowJam
    @CrowJam 9 місяців тому +14

    id like if they used phatom pain engine, it was very well done

    • @muller3524
      @muller3524 9 місяців тому +12

      TPP and GZ were both built on the Fox Engine, which they retired around 2019 I think or something like that. Delta is made with Unreal Engine 5, but they probably recycled some of the motion capture from MGSV cus its cheaper.

    • @agentl3r
      @agentl3r 9 місяців тому +9

      UE5 is better than FOX. FOX is pretty overrated, plus most the developers have moved over to KJP as an independent studio anyway.

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 6 місяців тому +4

      @@agentl3r it's cause they never updated fox, just left it to rot not to mention the original devs and coders for it left, konami just hired unreal devs cause it's cheaper then actually commiting to an inhouse engine

    • @nicklem9846
      @nicklem9846 2 місяці тому +5

      Its a Shame! MgsV could run perfectly with entry level Gpus like gtx750 ,gt1030 etc without even initializing 1gb of vram, Now with UE5 everyones gonna need an RTX to have a decent experience with almost the same result as 10 years ago :/ Budget pc gaming is officialy dead!

    • @holidaytrout5174
      @holidaytrout5174 Місяць тому +5

      Fox engine is crazy optimized

  • @hel1140
    @hel1140 Місяць тому +1

    Crazy Flasher soundtrack holy shit

  • @nerotheyoung864
    @nerotheyoung864 Місяць тому +1

    It would be cool to have triple comparisons with the original.

  • @Rad-Dude63andathird
    @Rad-Dude63andathird Місяць тому

    The V duology had some really solid gameplay, I do not mind having that smoothness put into the greatest game of all time. Here's hopin' this game will have little touches of its own, because Snake Eater was just such a special game...

  • @takauchinishika4701
    @takauchinishika4701 Місяць тому +2

    Marmarmarmarmarmarmarmarmarmarker placed

  • @kaleviHekonen9527
    @kaleviHekonen9527 27 днів тому

    I hope they make the enemies more aggressive to balance the increased movement.

  • @revolutions88
    @revolutions88 9 місяців тому +7

    Well that explains it

  • @gooneybird808
    @gooneybird808 28 днів тому

    I really just want the world to be bigger in delta than the original. It was awesome then but the story is very linear compared to modern games. The foliage, movement, etc. looks great but will that be enough to regain my appreciation for the game. I know it by heart basically…please give me something new

  • @user-ze4hy2po5i
    @user-ze4hy2po5i Місяць тому +3

    Fox engine beats unreal engine 5❤

    • @axelquintana2000
      @axelquintana2000 Місяць тому +2

      It doesn't, but art direction was really good for the most part.

  • @Indigo_1001
    @Indigo_1001 Місяць тому

    I think it’s the exact same animation, which is good imo.

  • @YoloTub3
    @YoloTub3 2 місяці тому

    Imagine the fps optimization difference between these engines

    • @axelquintana2000
      @axelquintana2000 Місяць тому +1

      That depends how well its done, mgsv breaks when running above 60fps and doesn't have full gpu utilization.

  • @jonathaningram8157
    @jonathaningram8157 21 день тому

    For some reason I think mgsv looks better. It's a cleaner look.

  • @SethWulfstone
    @SethWulfstone Місяць тому

    I like the idea, but the way MGS3 is laid out I worry about the effects the updated aiming, controls, and movement will cause for the gameplay itself. MGS1 was a great game, why not remake it with the same engine they used for MGS2? So they did. Then the game was.. Significantly easier. You had a first person now and the means to shoot guards from far lengths across the room, which worked for MGS2 since there was a lot of environment to break up and complicate your shots. I don't think the changes will be as drastic as MGS1 compared to MGS2, but we'll see.

  • @TBrizzle01
    @TBrizzle01 Місяць тому

    I hope some of the animations are different or it's going to bug me after playing so much MGSV.

    • @axelquintana2000
      @axelquintana2000 Місяць тому

      They are actually, mgsv has better animations from what we've seen.

  • @saulthetaxidriver6100
    @saulthetaxidriver6100 16 днів тому

    What if its all mgsv but modded

  • @trendyfinger7408
    @trendyfinger7408 Місяць тому

    I wish it was fox engine !

    • @axelquintana2000
      @axelquintana2000 Місяць тому +1

      @@trendyfinger7408 optimization, budget and modern tools are the reason. Also fox engine already required a full rework back then to fully utilize gpu's on pc and next gen consoles, something that never happened.

  • @anomallity
    @anomallity Місяць тому

    норм игра будет, скорее бы вышла

  • @none0403
    @none0403 Місяць тому

    i hope its same mgs5

  • @jay_ds4800
    @jay_ds4800 7 місяців тому +12

    Crazy how the fox engine still looks better than unreal 5

    • @killcount6534
      @killcount6534 Місяць тому +5

      No it doesn't, you just dont want to like the remake. You could go texture for texture, color for color, shadow for shadow, model for model, and Delta looks better in EVERY way.

    • @hylianro
      @hylianro Місяць тому +2

      Not true at all but I will say Fox engine is probably way more optimized than unreal 5

    • @axelquintana2000
      @axelquintana2000 Місяць тому

      ​@@hylianrothat really depends on how well its done, fox wasn't that good, it couldn't go above 60fps and had a very limited texture pool.

    • @hylianro
      @hylianro Місяць тому

      @@axelquintana2000 I must be misremembering then it has been...9 years

  • @jay_ds4800
    @jay_ds4800 Місяць тому +1

    Just copy the MGSV snake! The game is almost 10 years old!!!

  • @BigLadGreen
    @BigLadGreen 9 місяців тому +16

    I'm not convinced. The snake eater animations look kind of jerky.

    • @dopydj56
      @dopydj56 9 місяців тому +13

      give it a year, its still early

    • @CandidaRosa889
      @CandidaRosa889 9 місяців тому +3

      Its not bad but the ultra fidelity graphics make it go into uncanny valley range

    • @Goaheadandstaymad21332
      @Goaheadandstaymad21332 9 місяців тому

      It's legit pre alpha

    • @MGrey-qb5xz
      @MGrey-qb5xz 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Goaheadandstaymad21332 the game is done, this is what you gonna get

    • @killcount6534
      @killcount6534 Місяць тому

      bruh stfu lol, its the exact same thing, and UE5 has INCREDIBLE support for motion matching animations. it'll be smoother than it is already

  • @curiousfox4463
    @curiousfox4463 Місяць тому

    Unreal Engine 5 vs Fox Engine

    • @lordvampair8553
      @lordvampair8553 Місяць тому +1

      *"Unreal Engine 5 updated at the last version" VS "2013 Fox Engine builded to work on cross gen console"

  • @jamesclubberlang233
    @jamesclubberlang233 Місяць тому

    Delta looks like a fan unreal engine remake lmao

  • @mboss4
    @mboss4 24 дні тому

    Recycled animations

  • @nathanlibero1899
    @nathanlibero1899 Місяць тому +3

    Mgs5 is better

    • @hylianro
      @hylianro Місяць тому +1

      >pre alpha footage

  • @wai786500
    @wai786500 Місяць тому +3

    MGS delta is just an android, copying all that kojima did in the past days, it just dont have the soul that given by his creator, fuck konami. And do you guys know, most of the cg comes from the goddman japan gambling machine pachinko, fucking konami just use some resources they made for other purpose to make delta, so they dont have to do it from zero, and they knew someone will pay for this shit just because it's mgs

    • @killcount6534
      @killcount6534 Місяць тому +2

      shut up lol

    • @morsecode980
      @morsecode980 Місяць тому

      It’s literally the same as MGS3 just with new graphics and MGSV mechanics, stfu.

    • @user-vi7dm2wy8f
      @user-vi7dm2wy8f Місяць тому +3

      I swear to god fans like you that always say that remakes "don't have soul" are insufferable

    • @jamesclubberlang233
      @jamesclubberlang233 Місяць тому

      You truly love metal gear Solid bro

  • @IndividualQuestion
    @IndividualQuestion 4 місяці тому +3

    Literally the same game with not even guard patrol routes changed and stolen animations from MGSV. What a "remake"

    • @FeeIRG
      @FeeIRG 3 місяці тому +3

      Its pre alpha footage bro its gonna change

    • @IndividualQuestion
      @IndividualQuestion 3 місяці тому

      @@FeeIRG No it's not going to? They stated it's 1:1 with literally nothing changed. Do your research before trying to be a smartass on the internet.

    • @James-no5gw
      @James-no5gw 2 місяці тому +3

      Yeah that's the point of a remake? Real fans want it to be mgs3 with modern game mechanics like shown. Why would you want it different unless you were playing on like a new game +? You're logic doesn't make sense too me

    • @Titan13335
      @Titan13335 Місяць тому +4

      Stealing from their own series? What a shock O_o
      Mgsv had peak animations anyways
      Also it's supposed to be a remake, wtf you think a remake is?

    • @axelquintana2000
      @axelquintana2000 Місяць тому

      Animations are not recycled, but they're worst.

  • @xotai3139
    @xotai3139 Місяць тому

    Copy and paste, Konami is truly a trash company.

  • @Nakedsnake36
    @Nakedsnake36 28 днів тому

    Interesting…

  • @mrSlippinidiot
    @mrSlippinidiot Місяць тому

    Welp shit, i like the Fox engine more