@@onetiredgal5388One of Miquella’s goals is to use the Eclipse to create an unalloyed gold that will return Godwyn’s soul to his body, so he may have done the same for the rest of the soulless Demi gods.
I think Messmer is the boss at the end of the legacy dungeon shown in the trailer. I believe there will be a legacy dungeon at the foot of the Erdtree where we will fight Miquella and Godwyn.
Do you know how many people change names in Elden Ring??? Mesmer is definitely a version of Miquella they focus on Miquella's arm in the egg, then focus on Mesmer's long arm looking just like Miquella.
@@eror404acountnotfound9 now you mentioned it, i just realised what i hate the most is Miquella in the second phase because those fxxcking light attacks 😮💨
@@jeremiahrodriguez937 Could you all help me with something? If I start a second journey while playing the dlc, will I lose my progress? And how can I upgrade my weapons to levels above 10? I don't see people talking about it.
No. Messmer is not miquella. Miquella is always depicted with blond hair while his sister Melania has red hair. It's more likely it's a completely new demi god or maybe even empyrean of a different outer god than rot or the greater will. My current theory is that this character is the empyrean for the blood flame god which is called the formless mother. He does say "mother" in the trailer perhaps referring to the formless mother.
I think “mother” refers to queen marika because he is a child of queen marika along with melinia and miquella (notice how his name also starts with an M).
The final boss will be Godwyn look: The **Elden Ring** DLC, titled **"Shadow of the Erdtree,"** is highly anticipated by fans. We had the opportunity to speak with the game's director, **Hidetaka Miyazaki**, and here are some details about this expansion: 1. **Setting and Theme**: - **Shadow of the Erdtree** takes place in a **completely new land**, separate from the Mid-Lands. - This region is shrouded in the **particular Shadow of the Erdtree**, contrasting with the Erdtree in the Mid-Lands. - Players will journey to this Shadow of the Erdtree land, following the footsteps of **Miquella**, a key character in the story. - Additionally, **Queen Marika** plays a significant role in the plot, and her connection to the Shadow Land is a mystery to be explored. 2. **World Structure**: - The DLC will be structured similarly to the base game. - There will be **open-field maps**, **large dungeons**, and **smaller dungeons**. - Players can expect a similar experience to what they had in the main game. 3. **Central Antagonist**: - **Godwyn** is the central antagonist of the DLC. - His presence beneath the **Erdtree** is responsible for spreading darkness and **Deathroots**. In summary, **Shadow of the Erdtree** promises to expand the **Elden Ring** universe, introducing new locations, characters, and challenges for players to explore .
Miquella feels like a Ranni-type. He discarded his flesh, now existing as a spirit, and we will basically be carrying out one epic quest for him in the DLC
Maybe, the Messmer looks to have red hair, and the Radagon has red hair too. Also Marika and Miquela have blond hair. Maybe when they change, it will also change their hair. But the Miquela is at the end of the trailer, that looks like he wants to save the Erdtree (if it is the Erdtree)
@@tinystudio_games Messmer has a line in the trailer when he referred to a mother and a lord. Maybe he's mocking us and Marika about us being Elden lords. The line where he mentioned mother is what made me think he is Miquella.
@@tinystudio_games I don't think Marika and Radagon had the same objectives. Maybe Miquella's alter ego is evil, and the plot twist is about revealing Messmer real identity.
“All those abandoned by the Grace of Gold shall meet death, in the embrace of Messmer’s flame.” So it sounds like he is at least somewhat a follower of the Golden Order. Also, he has draconian eyes that you get from dragon communion, which connects him at least somewhat to Godwyn, though he doesn’t seem to use lightning incantations. Snakes of course connect to him to Rykard, though that could be a second link to dragons(serpents,big reptiles, yk) he also has red hair, like Malenia and the other children of Radagon. Also, along with this, he speaks to his mother about lordship in a land bereft of light, which could easily be aimed towards Marika since according to the website the land of shadow, where Messmer supposedly rules based on the cover art, it is the first place Marika set foot in the lands between. As a last little thing, his name could be following the scheme of the children or Radagon/Marika; Malenia, Miquella, Messmer( and possibly Melina) though his name doesn’t end with an A, so who knows.
I watched some lore vids and they mention SNAKES as traitors so i hope i give some xplanition why messmer is NOT miquella Have fun until DLC comes out fellow Tarnished's
“Yeah so uh, I walked into the room and I saw her sleeping, and she immediately woke up, announced herself as your sword, and tried to kill me so In short your sisters dead”
I think miquella has a quest line like ranni, you'll find out more about the game while helping him achieve his goal and even perhaps courting him lol 😎.
It's most likely the first demi god dlc boss fight the player will encounter. The reason i'm saying this is because for the base game trailer they revealed the first demi god but not much else so the dlc trailer is probably doing something similar.
They are selling this guy as a figurine same as Malenia though, Which makes me expect him to be atleast someone of notable prominence, rather than just an introductory boss.
@jondoe7036 But I'll say this From Soft has a history of presenting characters as the big bad, and then turning out to be relatively minor in the story and game as a whole. Yes I know about how they said mesmer and his flame but It would be unlike from soft to show the big bad main guy in the trailer. They would prefer the player to discover that big bad, main boss final boss whatever you want to call it, on their own.
I found Mesmer surprisingly early into my DLC play through. He’s sort of a difficult Godrick in the way the map opens up just beyond him. Took 9 tries, he tracks panic rolling very well. I beat him after chilling out. Roll into the multistab combo then roll away when he lands and jump backwards to avoid getting impaled.
He most prominently resembles Rykard imo, hes got the snakes, a similar looking flame, and the end of his spear looks similar to the blasphemous blade.
no, there are paintings of rykard in volcano manor. Also, this takes place in the present. Most popular theory is that he is the third sibling of malenia and miquella.
I feel like the thing ranni did to cast away her flesh was done tons of times and that will be revealed in the dlc that any champions that didn’t respect the golden order were discarded of their flesh and cursed to live in a realm close but so far away at the same time
I think he ll be one of the first Bosses from Software trailers normally reveal the first big Boss. They are Trolling us. I think The final Boss is miquella, godwynn Marika Herself, or an outer god.
Don’t think so he/she might be a before the final boss commitment in order to reach the soul boss of the blood fire (ie like the elden god creature after radagon will be a 2 or 4 stage boss fight with minimal assets/grace) so keen!!!! (Same as Godfrey to Radagon to Elden creature kind of vibe) - hopefully because that was the pinnacle of difficulty for me so far lol
I’m pumping out as many theory in my head so that I can look like a prophet after and one of them is a bit of a stretch I know but I also think it’s a possibility Which is their gonna pull a radagon and Marika, where Mesmer is revealed to be Miquella, Messmer is most likely a child of marika and radagon but miqulla does play a some what big role in this, I think k their gonna show that marika’s split personality thing might be hereditary and that miqulla has it.
Idk, I don't think the final bosses are usually the ones they have focused on in previous trailers. I'm thinking this will be one an earlier but cooler boss like Ludwig or Artorias.
I think this guy will be one of the last bosses in the dlc, maybe second to last, but definitely one of the biggest highlights. The large screen time he got in the newest trailer indicates that he will play a big important role
I’m kinda hoping for a Marika boss fight. We only fought an empty husk, controlled by the Elden Beast. Who knows, their souls/consciousness might be in the Realm Shadow.
I think what happens is that you touch the arm and get transported to the past when the arm was well kinda human forgot the name but anyway you go to the past and have to set in place the event of the game or hes like another child of the gods or vessels of gods idk
I think Mesmer might be miquella and mohgs kid, because think about it mohg is sleeping with miquella every day lmao, so when he says mother he probably means miquella
In an Japanese IGN interview, Miyazaki said Mesmer is an unmentioned child of Marika and we will learn in the dlc why he was not mentioned in the original game. Sorry but that theory is a bUllsh!t
In an Japanese IGN interview, Miyazaki said Mesmer is an unmentioned child of Marika and we will learn in the dlc why he was not mentioned in the original game.
In an Japanese IGN interview, Miyazaki said Mesmer is an unmentioned child of Marika and we will learn in the dlc why he was not mentioned in the original game.
I think Mesmer the Impaler is one of the dead Demi gods resting at the Mausoleums
Why is that?😊
I didn't mean to put that emoji there
I’m thinking it’s another Radagon and Merika child
Hmm but they're supposed to be soulless and don't have their own runes so that can't be possible
@@onetiredgal5388One of Miquella’s goals is to use the Eclipse to create an unalloyed gold that will return Godwyn’s soul to his body, so he may have done the same for the rest of the soulless Demi gods.
If miquella is the final boss they won’t show it but Messemer here is probably second to last boss fight
@@lawz0 Probably mandatory they did highlight him. That vicar Amelia looking boss could be Godwyn but I doubt it.
I think Messmer is the boss at the end of the legacy dungeon shown in the trailer. I believe there will be a legacy dungeon at the foot of the Erdtree where we will fight Miquella and Godwyn.
Do you know how many people change names in Elden Ring??? Mesmer is definitely a version of Miquella they focus on Miquella's arm in the egg, then focus on Mesmer's long arm looking just like Miquella.
Or it just looks similar, you have no actual proof of that.@@ShiftyShifts
@@DeathsjesterKMNPyeah
You were half right about miquella being last boss
If you think about it phase 2 is a tag team with miquella acting as support
@@eror404acountnotfound9 now you mentioned it, i just realised what i hate the most is Miquella in the second phase because those fxxcking light attacks 😮💨
@@jeremiahrodriguez937 Could you all help me with something? If I start a second journey while playing the dlc, will I lose my progress? And how can I upgrade my weapons to levels above 10? I don't see people talking about it.
It is Messmer the Impaler, not Miquella
just like st Trina being a different person
@@ethannelson975 welp, st. Trina IS Miquella.
Miquella actually was in trailer, and he was in white dress with his hairstyle
How did you guys know the name already? Was he mentioned in the based game?
@@RK-jt4yc He was named in the trailer as the boss figurine that comes with the collector's edition.
@@RK-jt4yc from a Miyazaki interview
No. Messmer is not miquella. Miquella is always depicted with blond hair while his sister Melania has red hair. It's more likely it's a completely new demi god or maybe even empyrean of a different outer god than rot or the greater will. My current theory is that this character is the empyrean for the blood flame god which is called the formless mother. He does say "mother" in the trailer perhaps referring to the formless mother.
I think “mother” refers to queen marika because he is a child of queen marika along with melinia and miquella (notice how his name also starts with an M).
@@Alpaca4711 Melina never stated that Marika is her mother.
Ah yes, melania
This aged well
They never showed the final boss in the trailer
Based on the cover art, Messmer seems to be very important if not the final boss of the DLC
@@LordOfAllThatIsGoldenMelania was also used as the main cover art, Mesmer is probably one of the biggest highlights but not THE highlight
The final boss will be Godwyn look:
The **Elden Ring** DLC, titled **"Shadow of the Erdtree,"** is highly anticipated by fans. We had the opportunity to speak with the game's director, **Hidetaka Miyazaki**, and here are some details about this expansion:
1. **Setting and Theme**:
- **Shadow of the Erdtree** takes place in a **completely new land**, separate from the Mid-Lands.
- This region is shrouded in the **particular Shadow of the Erdtree**, contrasting with the Erdtree in the Mid-Lands.
- Players will journey to this Shadow of the Erdtree land, following the footsteps of **Miquella**, a key character in the story.
- Additionally, **Queen Marika** plays a significant role in the plot, and her connection to the Shadow Land is a mystery to be explored.
2. **World Structure**:
- The DLC will be structured similarly to the base game.
- There will be **open-field maps**, **large dungeons**, and **smaller dungeons**.
- Players can expect a similar experience to what they had in the main game.
3. **Central Antagonist**:
- **Godwyn** is the central antagonist of the DLC.
- His presence beneath the **Erdtree** is responsible for spreading darkness and **Deathroots**.
In summary, **Shadow of the Erdtree** promises to expand the **Elden Ring** universe, introducing new locations, characters, and challenges for players to explore .
@@felpeezzxd6272 where is this from? Im not saying youre lying or anything id just like to read whatever article it is
@@LordOfAllThatIsGolden Eurogamer had an exclusive interview with Miyazaki
You can see miquella in the end. After The elden Ring title
I want to believe it’s a Marika boss fight
@@ethannelson975 50/50 tbh.
Whoever it is, it looks like it’s trying to save the erdtree
@@lawz0 Or replace it😉
@@ethannelson975 Radagon is Marika, we killed him
Miquella feels like a Ranni-type. He discarded his flesh, now existing as a spirit, and we will basically be carrying out one epic quest for him in the DLC
@@KuraSourTakanHour this aged like milk 😭
@@knightslanding8137 yep I was proven very wrong, but I got to take my rage out on Miquella 👱🏻♀️💥🤛
@@KuraSourTakanHour i didnt wanna have to hurt the walmart femboy 😔🙏
I think Messmer is Miquella's alter ego, just like Radagon is Marika's 🔥
Maybe, the Messmer looks to have red hair, and the Radagon has red hair too. Also Marika and Miquela have blond hair.
Maybe when they change, it will also change their hair. But the Miquela is at the end of the trailer, that looks like he wants to save the Erdtree (if it is the Erdtree)
Saint trina is Miquella's alrer ego so i don't think so unless he has 2 alter egos
@@tinystudio_games Messmer has a line in the trailer when he referred to a mother and a lord. Maybe he's mocking us and Marika about us being Elden lords. The line where he mentioned mother is what made me think he is Miquella.
@@tinystudio_games I don't think Marika and Radagon had the same objectives. Maybe Miquella's alter ego is evil, and the plot twist is about revealing Messmer real identity.
@@mattynator911 St Trina is more like a disguise than Miquella's alter ego. Or just about how people referred to Miquella.
You know the Tarnished died after he pulled out those wings lol
Oh 100% I’m sure Aspects of the crucible:wings does not give you I-frames
miquella is the glowing one at the end of trailer
duh, and the one talking right before that.
@@tarantulamadness6191 duh, duh... really?
duh, duh, duh indeed@@piercenewby2406
?@@SangSaner
He even says his name, mesmer lol
Dfhk
“All those abandoned by the Grace of Gold shall meet death, in the embrace of Messmer’s flame.” So it sounds like he is at least somewhat a follower of the Golden Order.
Also, he has draconian eyes that you get from dragon communion, which connects him at least somewhat to Godwyn, though he doesn’t seem to use lightning incantations.
Snakes of course connect to him to Rykard, though that could be a second link to dragons(serpents,big reptiles, yk) he also has red hair, like Malenia and the other children of Radagon. Also, along with this, he speaks to his mother about lordship in a land bereft of light, which could easily be aimed towards Marika since according to the website the land of shadow, where Messmer supposedly rules based on the cover art, it is the first place Marika set foot in the lands between.
As a last little thing, his name could be following the scheme of the children or Radagon/Marika; Malenia, Miquella, Messmer( and possibly Melina) though his name doesn’t end with an A, so who knows.
Dragon comunion is not the same as dragon cult, godwyn does have no relation to the dragon comunion.
Bro dropped the most detailed analyses the said who knows , iconic .
Very clever bro, your theory might be right
When I saw that they showed Miquella at Moghwyns palace I was confused until I realised Miquella is probably the biggest part of shadow of the erdtree
I watched some lore vids and they mention SNAKES as traitors so i hope i give some xplanition why messmer is NOT miquella
Have fun until DLC comes out fellow Tarnished's
Im from the future and this dlc is very hard
My theory is Mesmer is another side of Miquella just how Marika could turn into Radagon
Mark my words, he is the 9th demigod child
miquella and radahn is like guts and griffith
Miquella is our friend in this DLC
Gael is our friend in DS3 but at the end... :)
@@coconuts5792 ha. I agree.
“Yeah so uh, I walked into the room and I saw her sleeping, and she immediately woke up, announced herself as your sword, and tried to kill me so In short your sisters dead”
Nope
I think miquella has a quest line like ranni, you'll find out more about the game while helping him achieve his goal and even perhaps courting him lol 😎.
It's most likely the first demi god dlc boss fight the player will encounter. The reason i'm saying this is because for the base game trailer they revealed the first demi god but not much else so the dlc trailer is probably doing something similar.
They are selling this guy as a figurine same as Malenia though, Which makes me expect him to be atleast someone of notable prominence, rather than just an introductory boss.
Ya, that's a good point. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
@jondoe7036 But I'll say this From Soft has a history of presenting characters as the big bad, and then turning out to be relatively minor in the story and game as a whole. Yes I know about how they said mesmer and his flame but It would be unlike from soft to show the big bad main guy in the trailer. They would prefer the player to discover that big bad, main boss final boss whatever you want to call it, on their own.
@@biggestchungus4203 Fair enough, I wouldn't expect this guy to be the final boss of the DLC either.
The snake is veiwed as a traitor to the tree .......item description on gear u get from hammer guys by collesuems
The chaos flame has returned
Where? I cant see
I've said for a long time now. There's gonna be a HUGE twist... and there was
It wasn’t a very good twist sadly 😔
I found Mesmer surprisingly early into my DLC play through. He’s sort of a difficult Godrick in the way the map opens up just beyond him. Took 9 tries, he tracks panic rolling very well. I beat him after chilling out. Roll into the multistab combo then roll away when he lands and jump backwards to avoid getting impaled.
Ain't no way bro compared the strongest demigod of the time to godrick
This was surprisingly accurate on the final boss it was just a few words and a name short
It's miquella and radahn as the last fight
Messmer is the third sibling of malenia and miquella. multiple reasons as to why. He was also mentioned in the dungeon of the Impaler.
Most likey, because i don't think fromsoft would just spoil the final boss like that
He looks incredible hard. And amazing at the same time
they never show the final boss
and we are fucked..
He most prominently resembles Rykard imo, hes got the snakes, a similar looking flame, and the end of his spear looks similar to the blasphemous blade.
Godwyn and Miquella-duo fight
Cmon guys that’s gotta be pre-snake Rykard
This makes the most sense!
no, there are paintings of rykard in volcano manor. Also, this takes place in the present. Most popular theory is that he is the third sibling of malenia and miquella.
Messmer will probably be fought mid-way throught the dlc like lady maria and artorias were in their respective dlc
Malenia, Miquella, Mesmer. I think we now know who the Smouldering Butterfly actually represents.
I feel like the thing ranni did to cast away her flesh was done tons of times and that will be revealed in the dlc that any champions that didn’t respect the golden order were discarded of their flesh and cursed to live in a realm close but so far away at the same time
Hoping that miquella makes a Femto move after hearing about what we did the Mohg
I think he ll be one of the first Bosses from Software trailers normally reveal the first big Boss. They are Trolling us. I think The final Boss is miquella, godwynn Marika Herself, or an outer god.
This lanky man with the spear is called mesmer the impaler he will be the final boss
I really want his spear and armour they look so cool
Not been confirmed but sicne you get there through miquella likely he is the final boss if anything
@@sacredwarrior2681 true
Nah, from software never show final boss in their trailers.
I think there is easily room for another dlc with so much more content
I think messmer is the first half and the last half is beating Godwin and miquella
Don’t think so he/she might be a before the final boss commitment in order to reach the soul boss of the blood fire (ie like the elden god creature after radagon will be a 2 or 4 stage boss fight with minimal assets/grace) so keen!!!! (Same as Godfrey to Radagon to Elden creature kind of vibe) - hopefully because that was the pinnacle of difficulty for me so far lol
Wait so im at mesmer after killing 2 bosses ?
I’m pumping out as many theory in my head so that I can look like a prophet after and one of them is a bit of a stretch I know but I also think it’s a possibility Which is their gonna pull a radagon and Marika, where Mesmer is revealed to be Miquella, Messmer is most likely a child of marika and radagon but miqulla does play a some what big role in this, I think k their gonna show that marika’s split personality thing might be hereditary and that miqulla has it.
I just saw the LEAKS and idk if y'all would be upset or surprise (one thing I can say is he's him)
Play attention to the last few seconds of the actaul dlc video. Miquella is much different looking.
From software dlc's never shows final bosses on them cover
Thats Messmer lmfao
Miq is either gonna be a secret or get the blue doll treatment. god help us if they do another nameless king wait.
Maybe it is new demigod
In DS3, Gael was the one who started and finished the dlc, and we know how much Miyazaki loves to repeat certain elements in his games
Here from the future. Nice try but its Radhn featuring Miquella
Idk, I don't think the final bosses are usually the ones they have focused on in previous trailers. I'm thinking this will be one an earlier but cooler boss like Ludwig or Artorias.
But even if it is the last boss, they look really good.
I think this guy will be one of the last bosses in the dlc, maybe second to last, but definitely one of the biggest highlights. The large screen time he got in the newest trailer indicates that he will play a big important role
Yeah Mesmer is the second last Boss fight plus my brother always plays this game
Ragebait
I’m kinda hoping for a Marika boss fight. We only fought an empty husk, controlled by the Elden Beast. Who knows, their souls/consciousness might be in the Realm Shadow.
Wouldn’t Miquella’s incantations be golden instead of blackish red?
I think what happens is that you touch the arm and get transported to the past when the arm was well kinda human forgot the name but anyway you go to the past and have to set in place the event of the game or hes like another child of the gods or vessels of gods idk
The answer to the question is yes, the boss shown here (messmer) however, is the halfway point of the dlc.
Here’s hoping it’s a halberd and not a spear. The great spears feel so clunky on trades sometimes.
As a berserk fan iam waiting for Messmer's second phase. He will transform into a dragon
Remember how they showed godrick in the first elden ring trailer ? They hyped him a lot like he was the main boss or something
Before the dlc i thought messemer is miquella that hacthed from the egg but i didn't do any specaliton on it
Either were gonna see
Messmer is miquella.
Or
Miquella will be our millicent of thos.
Or miquellas a optional boss
I think Messmer is the son of Radagon and The Glom Eyed Queen
It’s possible he’s a child of Marika and a fire giant
Messmer = Miquella abilty to manipulate blood and fire, similiar to mohg, miquella got buffed and a new name, Messmer
If he was the final boss, they wouldn't have revealed in the trailer
Bro thats just the side boss that hypes up the main boss
So he is Miquela the big brother of melinea
So I guess we killing kabuto(in Naruto the other sage mode guy)
I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO OLLACILE AS ARTORIAS DURING THE FRENZIED FLAME ENDING AS A SEPARATE SERVER TO PLAY ONLINE!!!!
Radahn is the last boss but it shows miquella too
I think Mesmer might be miquella and mohgs kid, because think about it mohg is sleeping with miquella every day lmao, so when he says mother he probably means miquella
In an Japanese IGN interview, Miyazaki said Mesmer is an unmentioned child of Marika and we will learn in the dlc why he was not mentioned in the original game. Sorry but that theory is a bUllsh!t
What if its Godwyn? Hope so
In an Japanese IGN interview, Miyazaki said Mesmer is an unmentioned child of Marika and we will learn in the dlc why he was not mentioned in the original game.
Oh how right you are…
Oh boy do I have something to tell you
Knowing fromsoft, that's probably the second to last boss.
This one here is mesmer, so we havent truly seen miquella, therefore he could be the final boss
Miquella better be a boss I've been waiting for 2years to put my great sword through his head
This boss is probably second to last boss fight. And definitely marikas son
I thought maybe this was a younger rykard
Leak shows Radahn is the final boss...probably explains why you have to defeat him to start DLC
Imagne a live action series of elden ring
The final boss, is three people moshed together
I doubt it. In the Elden Ring trailer they showed manly Godrick and we all know how that turned out. I doubt that he will be the final boss.
Well... Miquella isn't *TECHNICALLY* the final boss... ish...
This could not be the last boss. The last time I had that thought was guessing wrong about Astel being the last boss.
no miquella not a boss he will gide you like melina i think he not evil he is kindness
I doubt it. They never show the final
Boss in their trailers
Messmar being the center of attention in all the trailers. :radahn is the final boss
I hope so
Maybe Messmer is to Miquella as Femto is to Griffith...
In an Japanese IGN interview, Miyazaki said Mesmer is an unmentioned child of Marika and we will learn in the dlc why he was not mentioned in the original game.
That’s messmer and either 2nd to last or first phase last boss him then Miquela
the fact that this mf wasn’t the last boss threw me off like 3 bosses in run in to him cry and retry 82 times
I mean he was kinda right
The final boss is radahan he comes back. I didn’t play it but my friend told me and it’s a way stronger version way way stronger.
He’s got a second form, no way a guy like that has one form…
It’s actually not messmer 😂😂😂😂 it’s consort Rodon