I just love how Jim not only says the history of the promotions but I love it when he says the history of the wrestlers even if they were horrible, jobbers or hardly talked about.. Even when they mention the studium/arenas Jim even knows who went there and when.. Dude is a walking wrestling dictionary.. Need to do more documentaries involving Jim (Even if it's good or bad)
I always wanted to get at least one of these right myself, and I guessed the first one the exact same as Jim. I consider that a win no matter what! Thanks for the history and the entertainment!
Leo Burke was my favorite wrestler as a little boy growing up in Nova Scotia. My Mom and my great aunt used to take me to Grand Prix Wrestling and they both would go on and on about how handsome they thought Leo Burke was.
The first program yes Leo Burke was the Maritimes. He was a tag team Champion with a distant relative of mine Big Stephen Petitpas in Grand Prix wrestling run by Emile Dupree, Rene' dad
1:04 Steve Taylor was (still is AFAIK) Dave Taylor's brother. 1:09 Robbie Stewart was/is Frank Chic Cullen from Scotland. British and World Heavy-Middleweight (that's Junior Light Heavyweight to you American fans and Super Middleweight to any boxing fans) champion - briefly beat Rollerball Rocco for the title in the mid 80s and then won it a second time from Robbie Brookside in 1992. Held it for 10 years until his retirement in 2002 then he and Rocco co-curated a tournament for a new champion in 2003 won by The American Dragon (Bryan Danielson). 1:24 Kung Fu *might* be Irish born ex masked wrestler Eddie "Kung Fu" Hammill, although there was also a Luchador in Mexico, Raymundo Cuesto, doing a similar gimmick, still with his mask.
@@Goawaykidyoubotherme He was always billed as Eddie Hamill in the UK, including Northern Ireland for Dave Finlay's dad's promotion in the early 1970s before he came to the mainland got the gimmick and got on TV.
Steve Taylor was in All Star's last TV bout in Bedworth 1988 teaming with Marty Jones to beat Skull Murphy and Johnny South. After that, they did a WWF special , a Joint Promotions show and a clips roundup and that was it.
Angel Acevedo (Cuban Assassin) is Puerto Rican, not Cuban. Angel Peron and Chicky Peron are also Puerto Rican, better known in Puerto Rico as two of the greatest heels in Puerto Rican wrestling history: El Profe and Chicky Starr. El Profe wrestled his last match last weekend and Chicky Starr is surprisingly still active, after having life threatening health issues.
I only found out in the past year that The Cuban Assassin was actually from Puerto Rico, while listening to Rene Dupree's podcast. Cuban was a legend in the Maritimes wrestling scene.
Why? He's just another moron lying in shoot interviews. He gets a lot of business because wrestling fans are a pretty stupid and easily led lot, generally.
That last card featured Mr. Fuji, who was also working in WWWF at the time and was about to win the WWWF tag titles with Professor Toru Tanaka. Jim made a small mistake on that card: The Alaskan was NOT Jay York, it was his tag partner and kayfabe brother Mike York (real last name, I believe, O'Leary) teaming with Frank Monte that night. Jay had taken a sabbatical from wrestling to tour and record with Delaney & Bonnie as a percussionist. He didn't return to wrestling until the band broke up in, I think, 1973.
Haku/Meng is still favorite for toughest But a fight with Prime Billy Jack Haynes would be interesting. Also Prime Dick Slater would be in this group of interesting potential fights.
I can name several wrestlers that wouldn't mess with Slater, but was Billy Jack known as a tough guy or just a nut? I'd add Hercules Hernandez since stories of his strength are legendary.
Any of these guys could have fd meng up...dick slater, harley race, bruno sanmartino, Dr death, John tenta, bradshaw, angle, Bruiser brody, terry Gordy, andre, the warlord, Erik watts, hawk, rick rude, kurt Henning, and i know ive forgotten a few others.
@@a_ya5555 Who in the bloody blue hell is Micah Watts? Some indy guy that no one but you and Mrs. Watts have ever heard of? Outside of Haku, I'd bet on Lesnar.
@@Halbared I mean his stories. I don't mean the audition. I'm well aware they auditioned plenty of people that didn't make sense. Nikita is a Christian man. Christian men can't be trusted, particularly ones who preach "gospel".
I would liken a weapons manufacturing Cornette would be pushed like Doofinshmirtz and everything he created would end with the suffix-ORATOR. He would bring a chainorator, a fireballorator, update the racket to a racketorator…
I dont know when, I don't know where, and I certainly do not know how. But I will, without a doubt, be making good use of the name Dickson Cox in the near future. Thank you for that one, Jim 🤣
I love these segments. Better than any AEW garbage. I feel like a champ when i can at least get the promotion & within 5yrs. I have actually answered a few correctly.
If i remember Heenan telling the story correctly, Guy Hill/Mitchell became a kayfabe Heenan brother in a tag team with Bobby early in his career; still a common practice in wrestling in the mid-to-late '60s.. This was around the beginning when Bobby had to be an Assassin for a night because the other couldnt make it.
The original Cuban assassin u guys are talking about his son went on to carry on and be the Cuban assassin in west Va. I manage him now he's working for apw/nicw they have a streaming platform for the show
Kerry von erich playing Ivan Drago would be really weird can't picture him and Bridgette Nielsen as a couple and imagine him saying the lines if he dies he dies etc
Friday, 1/4/1985 (WCCW) Dallas, Texas: The Sportatorium: MainEvent Kevin & Mike Von Erich vs Dynamic Duo Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams; Billy jack Haynes vs The Missing Link etc.. Around this time Billy jack haynes had his new afro hair style perm & was still maybe name Billy Jack not using his step dad's last name "Haynes"on WCCW TV 📺
When I get a notice that your next "Guess the Program" is added. I stop what I'm watching or listening to. This is my FAVORITE thing to listening to BAR NONE.
Haven't see the footage on UA-cam Rip The Crippler Oliver breaking Mike Von Erich hand in Fort Worth, TX, .and taking out a bloody Billy Jack out of WCCW
It really is a shame the Midnight Express weren't better booked in World Class. After defeating the Fantastics, they could have had a run with Rock & Soul, (even if Jim did think Buck Zumhofe was the shits- he was considered a top LHW around that time), then top it off with Kerry and Kevin after their feud with the Dynamic Duo. Would have been really good.
He's not sick. He's in for some sort of procedure. I'd guess a hip or knee replacement. But yes, prayers for a speedy recovery are called for, although he doesn't seem to be in immediate peril.
@@northofnashira2575 man....or women! When I hear of one of the all time greats and an email buddy of mine in the hospital, it's always usually bad! I am glad to know now that it's not as bad as I thought, but still too much news on the wrestling world losing people.
Nobody can ever say Dory Funk, Jr wasn't a draw. According to Jim he drew 25,000 people to Texas Stadium against Fritz 5 years before the stadium existed.
Texas Stadium opened in 1971, so that's legit. I think you're talking about the Kiniski match. Wikipedia also claims there was a 1961 show at Texas Stadium. More than likely, those two were actually at the Cotton Bowl.
I just love how Jim not only says the history of the promotions but I love it when he says the history of the wrestlers even if they were horrible, jobbers or hardly talked about.. Even when they mention the studium/arenas Jim even knows who went there and when.. Dude is a walking wrestling dictionary.. Need to do more documentaries involving Jim (Even if it's good or bad)
I always wanted to get at least one of these right myself, and I guessed the first one the exact same as Jim. I consider that a win no matter what! Thanks for the history and the entertainment!
That was the first one I ever got right too.
Guess the program is an awesome segment Jim's knowledge of old school wrestling always fascinates me keep these coming thanks guys lol.
Yuppers the highlight of the show... Right up there with Reggie's Corner!!!
@@williammitchell4417I Absolutely Agree
I dunno how he remembers all that shit.
I just cannot retain information like that.
Maybe it’s due to the 5 concussions I’ve suffered?
@@planexshifter knowing history and research pal...
This is the best thing on UA-cam. Thank you guys.
More guess the program! It’s amazing!!
Yes!
Nova Scotia is right Jim, Leo Burke was a fixture here in Halifax for Atlantic Grand Prix Wrestling when I was a kid.
Leo Burke was my favorite wrestler as a little boy growing up in Nova Scotia. My Mom and my great aunt used to take me to Grand Prix Wrestling and they both would go on and on about how handsome they thought Leo Burke was.
Nobody embodies that classic New York attitude better than downtown beautiful Bobby Eaton.
“Heyman,dang’oly,cainty’allseeI’mwalkinherebuddy?”
Cornette as Rocky Balboa and Kerry Von Erich as Ivan Drago from Rocky 4 😂
Best segment going. Thanks, Jim and Brian.
LOL the Rocky 4 thumbnail
This Billy Jack Haynes stuff hits so different 3 months later
Love hearing anything you guys have to say can't get enough of it.
The best segment on the show, without question
ironically, there are actually no questions, so that comment works twice
The first program yes Leo Burke was the Maritimes. He was a tag team Champion with a distant relative of mine Big Stephen Petitpas in Grand Prix wrestling run by Emile Dupree, Rene' dad
Kerry Brown also wrestled here in the Maritimes as Rick Valentine. Kayfabe brother to Greg.
Same here in the Montreal territory
Jeanie clark ( got around ) she was with chris Adams then billy jack then back with chris adams then she married steve austin!!!!
20:43 Scott Hall got into a fight at a night club, the guy lost, pulled a gun, Hall got the gun off of him and shot the guy.
1:04 Steve Taylor was (still is AFAIK) Dave Taylor's brother.
1:09 Robbie Stewart was/is Frank Chic Cullen from Scotland. British and World Heavy-Middleweight (that's Junior Light Heavyweight to you American fans and Super Middleweight to any boxing fans) champion - briefly beat Rollerball Rocco for the title in the mid 80s and then won it a second time from Robbie Brookside in 1992. Held it for 10 years until his retirement in 2002 then he and Rocco co-curated a tournament for a new champion in 2003 won by The American Dragon (Bryan Danielson).
1:24 Kung Fu *might* be Irish born ex masked wrestler Eddie "Kung Fu" Hammill, although there was also a Luchador in Mexico, Raymundo Cuesto, doing a similar gimmick, still with his mask.
It was Mike Hamill. Aka Ed
@@Goawaykidyoubotherme He was always billed as Eddie Hamill in the UK, including Northern Ireland for Dave Finlay's dad's promotion in the early 1970s before he came to the mainland got the gimmick and got on TV.
Steve Taylor was in All Star's last TV bout in Bedworth 1988 teaming with Marty Jones to beat Skull Murphy and Johnny South. After that, they did a WWF special , a Joint Promotions show and a clips roundup and that was it.
Angel Acevedo (Cuban Assassin) is Puerto Rican, not Cuban. Angel Peron and Chicky Peron are also Puerto Rican, better known in Puerto Rico as two of the greatest heels in Puerto Rican wrestling history: El Profe and Chicky Starr. El Profe wrestled his last match last weekend and Chicky Starr is surprisingly still active, after having life threatening health issues.
I only found out in the past year that The Cuban Assassin was actually from Puerto Rico, while listening to Rene Dupree's podcast. Cuban was a legend in the Maritimes wrestling scene.
I love looking at Travis' artwork , then waiting for the part of the video that explains it XD
Billy Jack Haynes... Now there's someone that somebody needs to do a documentary or special on. That guy is an enigma to me.
Why?
He's just another moron lying in shoot interviews. He gets a lot of business because wrestling fans are a pretty stupid and easily led lot, generally.
Guessing Calgary 82 for the first one is probably the only one I’ve gotten both year and location right.
Never mind got Dallas 85 right as well.
I love these history segments so much!
I’d love to hear Jim try to guess an old program from the Vancouver territory.
"It's not Memphis, cause it ain't Memphis." IT WAS MEMPHIS!
Leo Burke was from New Brunswick Canada and wrestle for Atlantic Grand Prix wrestling here in Nova Scotia
My favorite segment, along with Jim’s deep dives.
More of this, and reviewing past matches..
This stuff is so fascinating
That last card featured Mr. Fuji, who was also working in WWWF at the time and was about to win the WWWF tag titles with Professor Toru Tanaka. Jim made a small mistake on that card: The Alaskan was NOT Jay York, it was his tag partner and kayfabe brother Mike York (real last name, I believe, O'Leary) teaming with Frank Monte that night. Jay had taken a sabbatical from wrestling to tour and record with Delaney & Bonnie as a percussionist. He didn't return to wrestling until the band broke up in, I think, 1973.
Haku/Meng is still favorite for toughest
But a fight with Prime Billy Jack Haynes would be interesting.
Also Prime Dick Slater would be in this group of interesting potential fights.
I can name several wrestlers that wouldn't mess with Slater, but was Billy Jack known as a tough guy or just a nut? I'd add Hercules Hernandez since stories of his strength are legendary.
Any of these guys could have fd meng up...dick slater, harley race, bruno sanmartino, Dr death, John tenta, bradshaw, angle, Bruiser brody, terry Gordy, andre, the warlord, Erik watts, hawk, rick rude, kurt Henning, and i know ive forgotten a few others.
@@a_ya5555 Who in the bloody blue hell is Micah Watts? Some indy guy that no one but you and Mrs. Watts have ever heard of? Outside of Haku, I'd bet on Lesnar.
Bradshaw lol Joey Styles says other wise.
Warlord? Even warlord himself said he wouldn't fuck with Meng.
Good troll tho good laugh.
@@richhaney2556 HOW did I forget Styles punching the crap out of JBL?
Nikita Koloff tells such a funny story about Kerry and the audition.
Can he be believed?
@@Rjensen2 There's no reason to disbelieve him, it's no secret Nikita and Kerry were up for the same role.
@@Halbared I mean his stories. I don't mean the audition. I'm well aware they auditioned plenty of people that didn't make sense. Nikita is a Christian man.
Christian men can't be trusted, particularly ones who preach "gospel".
Because Atlantic Grand Prix was a seasonal territory and mostly ran during the summer a lot of the boys would work between here and Stampede.
Actually wonder if Jim has any recollections on the late 1980s Von Erichs Over America Tour.
I don't know many of these people, but i still enjoy listening to these to learn about the history of the wrestling business 🙂.
😂 Dickson Cox!
In all seriousness, i love this segment. Keep doing them.
The knowledge of wrestling these dudes have...crazy man 👍
Guess the Program is so good. Also a great way to mix in a random story or quick bio of a guy we'd never otherwise hear of...
I would liken a weapons manufacturing Cornette would be pushed like Doofinshmirtz and everything he created would end with the suffix-ORATOR. He would bring a chainorator, a fireballorator, update the racket to a racketorator…
My favorite part of the show
Also Angel Acevedo’s son Richie Acevedo has carried the Cuban Assassin flag and passed it on to a new generation.
Leo Burke, I believe, was billed from New Brunswick. Atlantic Grand Prix Wrestling dud there circuit in Nova Scotia, New Brunswick & PEI.
Great history lessons.
I dont know when, I don't know where, and I certainly do not know how. But I will, without a doubt, be making good use of the name Dickson Cox in the near future. Thank you for that one, Jim 🤣
We need another one of these soon.
Ken Mantel...as a rib, we should coordinate our emails. Send Jim questions about all of his least favorite bookers in rapid succession.
I love these segments. Better than any AEW garbage. I feel like a champ when i can at least get the promotion & within 5yrs. I have actually answered a few correctly.
Jim has TDS, you have AEWDS. Why even bring them up?
@@edwells4769 Just like you had your opinion on my comment, I had my own opinion & statement I wanted to make which is why I brought it up. Thanks.
@@dzig228 is AEW in the room with you now?
Get well soon to Dutch Mantell, wonder if jim will mention his health issues
Obviously, he will. 😂
If i remember Heenan telling the story correctly, Guy Hill/Mitchell became a kayfabe Heenan brother in a tag team with Bobby early in his career; still a common practice in wrestling in the mid-to-late '60s..
This was around the beginning when Bobby had to be an Assassin for a night because the other couldnt make it.
How could he not get the one in St. Louis when half the wrestlers were billed from there. lol
The original Cuban assassin u guys are talking about his son went on to carry on and be the Cuban assassin in west Va. I manage him now he's working for apw/nicw they have a streaming platform for the show
Dude, that is badass. You really do have to love generational wrestling.
@@nicholasdunlap2275of course I do. I'm an old school style manager. I'm known for taking Cornette bumps. Lookup Bronco Barnett.
This is my favorite part of anything Jim does. I love peaking at wrestling history.
Kerry von erich playing Ivan Drago would be really weird can't picture him and Bridgette Nielsen as a couple and imagine him saying the lines if he dies he dies etc
Watch the Nikita Koloff interview on this topic.
@@Halbared no that's ok I'd rather not
@@stewartmcrae8007 OK; it's rather funny, and gives an insight as to the casting process. Kerry sounds hilarious.
I was a huge Billy Jack Haynes fan in WWF
These "guess the programs" are sooooo much fun to listen to
I would've guessed that the second last program was in St. Louis since like half the guys in it were from there. 🤷♂️
Honestly Guess the program is my favorite part of the podcast. Do these more often .
Friday, 1/4/1985 (WCCW) Dallas, Texas: The Sportatorium: MainEvent Kevin & Mike Von Erich vs Dynamic Duo Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams; Billy jack Haynes vs The Missing Link etc.. Around this time Billy jack haynes had his new afro hair style perm & was still maybe name Billy Jack not using his step dad's last name "Haynes"on WCCW TV 📺
Could listen to this all day. Its sad but this to me is better then modern wrestling.
Facts 👌✨
When I get a notice that your next "Guess the Program" is added. I stop what I'm watching or listening to. This is my FAVORITE thing to listening to BAR NONE.
Nick Roberts was the promoter in Lubbock, not Amarillo.
It's a shame Mike Shaw is only remembered for WCW and WWE. He was great in Stampede
The only people who even remember the guy are the more knowledgeable ones that would know about Stampede.
Haven't see the footage on UA-cam Rip The Crippler Oliver breaking Mike Von Erich hand in Fort Worth, TX, .and taking out a bloody Billy Jack out of WCCW
There was a guy in another YT comment section named Dixon Cider. Maybe a distant cousin of Dixon Cox.
Dickson Cox! Wtf! 🤣
Jack Kruger WWF Referee ,too !
Jim, your right mind never leaves you wrong
About 3/4 of my knowledge of wrestling history has come from Jim Cornette.
I’m so proud of myself when I get one of these right. And why do I get them right? Cause I paid attention when Jim and Brian talked history.
Was that the same night Michael Hayes played Santa?🎅
Travis is the BEST
BOOM goes the dynamite!
This has to be 1983 stampede Calgary
Fuck I was a year off.
Love these bits, hope you never run out of classic programs I love learning about the territory days.
A coin flip decides the order of the matches?
So Buddy Rogers invented the "strut"?
It really is a shame the Midnight Express weren't better booked in World Class. After defeating the Fantastics, they could have had a run with Rock & Soul, (even if Jim did think Buck Zumhofe was the shits- he was considered a top LHW around that time), then top it off with Kerry and Kevin after their feud with the Dynamic Duo. Would have been really good.
Down goes Cornette in the first round😊 TKO . The winner The Modern Day Warrior Kerry Von Erich ( World Class Boxing HW Champion ) 🥊
Good one
Billy Jack was just arrested after a standoff.... for killing his wife
Black people rarely tip their servers in restaurants.
Jim Cornette is like DJ Khaled with his Awesome Uploads. #AnotherOne. 🔥
All of my fellow cult friends, please send your well wishes to our good friend dutch mantell, he's sick in the hospital. Get well soon dutch!
He's not sick. He's in for some sort of procedure. I'd guess a hip or knee replacement. But yes, prayers for a speedy recovery are called for, although he doesn't seem to be in immediate peril.
@@northofnashira2575 man....or women! When I hear of one of the all time greats and an email buddy of mine in the hospital, it's always usually bad! I am glad to know now that it's not as bad as I thought, but still too much news on the wrestling world losing people.
@GryHen-pg9iy James, his co-host, posted a short video on it a day or 2 ago. Doesn't say what it is exactly, but it was planned.
@@GryHen-pg9iy ua-cam.com/video/07wF0LS0yrg/v-deo.htmlsi=ovMhAaqi2ccXSk0V
@@northofnashira2575 ok, cool I didn't see that. Thanks for the update north.
Scott Hall shot a guy after he took the man's gun away from him
Buck zumhoff for the hall of fame
Good morning!
That thumbnail 😜
Kerry von Erich as Ivan Drago simply wouldn't have worked, he was too naturally amiable to audiences.
Dad?
What about George C. Scott as worst booker Jim work for?
You mean General Turgidson?
this is my favorite part of the program....i try guess but jim is better at it....
I got the first one right myself!
Yeeeeh i love these👊
Wow Jim talking about WCCW in the 80's takes me back to my childhood...good times! Before it all went bad... 😭
Hey, I got the 1st one right! Boom goes the dynamite!!💣(UA-cam doesn't have a dynamite emoji).
Yes please 😊
Jim Cornette for over 40 years the revolutionary force in professional wrestling
🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Nobody can ever say Dory Funk, Jr wasn't a draw. According to Jim he drew 25,000 people to Texas Stadium against Fritz 5 years before the stadium existed.
Texas Stadium opened in 1971, so that's legit. I think you're talking about the Kiniski match. Wikipedia also claims there was a 1961 show at Texas Stadium. More than likely, those two were actually at the Cotton Bowl.
Nobody ever has.
First?
Nobody gives a fuck.
No.
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