It’s hard to understand how an oil and filter change can cost 180, my brothers Triumph was worse last year at 250. In the UK we’re still locked into dealer service for bikes (not cars) to keep the warranty. In my brother’s case two year warranty ends this year and he’ll be doing his own service from now on.
All true I guess. I thought if I did it myself to Royal Enfield spec (I'd video it to prove the case) then I could keep warranty. But dealers says not the case. A bit of a trap if true. But if I keep it I shall definitely do it myself after warranty. Simple enough, kind of the point of having an 'old school' bike. 👍👍
@@CodgerBiker I know it’s the rule but don’t know if they would be very strict with it. It would be a test if you had a big problem that would be repaired under warranty for the dealer or manufacturer to turn round and say no sorry you didn’t have it serviced at a main dealer so the warranty is cancelled. I did watch a bike channel could have been 44 teeth and a specialist barrister talking about it saying something about you’re only option would be to take them to court but that could easily fail and be expensive.
I bought a 2020 ravishing Red Int.at 800 miles it got a velorex sidecar and has had it on since.19,000 miles.Not one single problem other than some contaminted fuel requiring me to remove tank and clean the fuel filter.I have crossed the worst passes in Colorado weighing in at 1100 lbs. I added free flow exhaust and air filter and geared down one tooth .Most reliable bike i have ever owned.
I do like the colour combo dude I bought my 790 about the same time as you got yours and did have a few conversations with you back then on insta are you glad you don’t have it now ? I still have mine and am waiting for for the camshaft of death fairy to flutter in😂 I have just bought a second hand 350 classic which I love and have just done my own service £25 for oil and filter change I should think that’s about the price will be if you keep it long enough ☺keep safe dude
Hello again. Yes I remember. I still love KTMs, no other bikes have the attitude. Was staring longingly at an SMT only yesterday. But I also like simple stuff I can, eventually, service myself, like my 40 year old MZ. Hopefully you'll get a recall and it'll be better than new. If only I had funds and a huge garage, I'd keep the lot! 😉👍👍
Interceptor gearbox is one of the best I've had ! One of the best mods I've done ( out of many ) is the fitting of a Venhill featherlight clutch cable that I replaced the oem with after a year as it had got a bit grouchy . Your bike needs thousand miles on it before it's at its full potential and once you're there your gearbox should be buttery smooth , my bike is 4 years old now and most definitely a keeper , service it my self , only had the first service done at the dealer , kept all the receipts for the work I'd done as I'd deemed myself a competent person . Please ditch those mirrors ! 😂
Ha ha! I like those mirrors. Much cheaper than the RE Touring mirror, which I might get one day. I love the gearbox on the Interceptor. I love riding it. I was just caught out a couple of times in rush hour traffic. Now I’m used to it, no longer an issue. I do expect it’ll improve with more miles and the new oil. My other air cooled bike is a 40 yr old MZ. It does the same when hot. I just didn’t expect it on a 2024 bike, ha ha! But it does get hot at the moment. I’ve every intention of servicing it myself. No doubt a Venhill will be heading my way in due course. Thanks for the tip 👍👍
Good to know re the clutch/ gears. I had a Ducati Scrambler with same problem, also false neutrals. That was the worst gearbox I have ever had. Not good when dropping down the box towards a roundabout and it goes into neutral and have to knock it up into a higher gear again or lock the back wheel. Pulse other issues. That’s gone!!!
It's not been an issue now I know about it. Gearbox is brilliant otherwise, like it says on their slogan, Made Like A Gun. But it did trip me up to begin with and it's important to know - they even state it in the handbook. But no false neutrals I'm glad to report. 👍👍
Hi yer Codger, With my RE dealer GT 650 continental in 2022 recommend first yearly service so tappets etc would bed in etc so first oil change was only £79 including oil and filter then first service was done at a milage of about 1500 mile, but noticed a big difference this year in performance after 2nd service bike had done about 2500 miles, plus I'm running a K&N air filter and S&S end cans with stainless down pipes from Hitchcocks. Regarding gears, the first thing I did was change the clutch cable to one from Venhills much better, a lot of Interceptor owners have fitted the rear sets that on my GT650, brake lever and gear lever apparently the linkage can be sloppy and the feet rest get in the way when you have your feet down 😎
Mine sometimes sticks in 2nd when changing down, you think it’s in first, but it’s not then you try to set off, it really needs a gear indicator, it’s the only thing RE left out.
Ah, sorry about that. My other helmet is set to record DrJ on the bluetooth. So it's only on one side. I meant to set it to both channels, but forgot. Too late now. 👍
My interceptor is going in for the first service next week. When I booked in with the RE dealer they also said that they have been instructed that the valve clearances are no longer required however, they are give customers the choice as they find that around 80% of the bikes they check require adjustment.
Strange observation, I've had this 'problem' on every bike, for as long as I can remember, occasionally. Pull in clutch in neutral, no 1st, release clutch and try again, goes into 1st. Probably not releasing the clutch when stopping seems to be the reason. First service on the new Triumph next Tuesday, hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Yes it's sort of thing I get on my 40 year old MZ. Never happened on any other new bike I've run in. Danger of being rear ended if you don't know, in a city full of lead footed Tesla drivers... 👍
Well that's comparatively cheap then! I just remember when biking was cheap transport. But everything changes, we have to roll with it as some noisy neighbours up the M62 so brilliantly sang. 😉👍👍
Motorcycle gearboxes are mostly non-syncro straight cut gears. When in neutral and the clutch fully disengaged (no clutch drag) both gearbox shafts will be stationary, no gears rotating. In this condition, if the internals are not aligned the gears won't slide into place and need to be rotated slightly to align and slide fully into place. Hence letting the clutch out a bit turns the shafts and allows the gears to engage. It's not a fault, it's an undocumented feature, although partly documented in this case. I've simplified my explanation a little, it's actually the dogs not engaging - I'm guessing you've never taken a motorcycle gearbox apart - no disrespect. I've got a gt650, great bikes 👍
No offence taken. Yes I have, but not since the early 80s. I began riding off road about 1977. And I agree it was common back then. My 40 year old MZ, for instance, often needs a bit of persuading. But I have run in many new bikes over the past few years and it has not happened on any of them, ever. I have virtually every ride on video. So to have this happen in rush hour traffic the first couple of times was not expected. I understand your explanation, cheers for that. And it’s exactly how it feels. But I do not know of any other modern bike where this occurs. I also thought it was worth pointing out the instructions in the handbook, which addresses this. I’ve since been ready at the lights and not had an issue. And yes, I love this bike! 👍👍
I have an Interceptor with 1400 miles on the clock. I have had similar problems with the neutral to first gear especially when the engine is hot. I find that pulling the clutch in letting it out again and then pulling it in again the gearbox is fine.
My 40 year old, 2 stroke, MZ is the same. I was just surprised by a new bike doing it. Also when I saw it in the owners book. Agree it's more likely when hot also. But have adapted now. 👍👍
i have same model ... if it gets hot... probably because its not run in yet... the gearbox gets clunky... like an old 1970's trials bike.... and maybee the indian RE engine oil is low quality..? but its never missed a gear and runs perfect... im not going to panick the cooler weather is almost here in uk...
Totally agree. Now I know about it, it doesn’t bother me. I just thought it worth mentioning, especially as it is noted in the handbook. The gearbox is precise otherwise and the bike a delight to ride. I’m looking forward to seeing how it goes with new oil and miles…👍👍
I don’t know why you don’t service your own bike . They don’t come much easier unless it’s a single, the prices they charge these days for a service is totally taking the piss . A lot of bikes tend to have issues going into neutral especially when hot . All you can do is keep the clutch correctly adjusted not just at the lever end ,some clutches also require adjusting at the push rod actuator end & then the correct amount of play in cable at lever end . Also adjust gear shift into a more comfortable position for positive gear shifts. Changing the oil for a different brand can also help & if the bike has been standing for a week or two , pull the clutch in & out a few times while the bike is ticking over in neutral to free up the clutch . It also helps if you can snick the gear into neutral just before you come to a stop . This saves the rider having to rock the bike forwards & backwards , stomping on the gear shift to find neutral when stationary .
Totally agree on all points. I bought the bike to service myself, even bought filters and oil etc. BUT was told by dealer that I’d invalidate the warranty. So decided to get a first service and see how it went for 12 months. Love the bike and the neutral thing is no issue for me, just unusual on modern bike, but I expect it’ll bed in and I am used to it now. I’ll try a few adjustments and I can check tappets myself - it was normal when I started riding, nobody could afford a garage to service a motorbike. Thanks for watching 👍👍
@@CodgerBiker Same here over 50 years ago ,when I started riding , I was an apprentice joiner & only on low wages , so I had to learn how to service my own bike . Lucky enough I had been spannering my push bikes since about 7 years of age , so was prepared to get hold of a Hynes & Clymer workshop manuals & have a go myself . I gradually got a good set of tools together with the money I saved by not paying out on dealer servicing & repair & been servicing & repairing my bikes & mates bikes ever since . 👍
I too learned on pushbikes. We used to have ten or so rented out to holiday makers in mid-70s. We maintained them ourselves. Moving up to bikes and cars it was fix it yourself, or do without. In a way I think we were lucky. People today daren’t even lift the bonnet without ringing the AA. I’m no expert, but having a go is part of the enjoyment of owning a bike. I like the Enfield because of this in particular. 👍
@@CodgerBiker I prefer the bikes without all the gadgets , easier & cheaper to get your spanner’s into & sort at the side of the road . Half these riders today don’t know how to change a spark plug , or ride a bike without riding modes & slipper & blipper tat or find their way without a sat nav . If they don’t have a go they will never learn, with all the information & tools available today , it’s never been a better time for bikers to start learning to service & maintain their own bikes . The Enfield’s tend to lend themselves to home servicing due to their minimum modern tech , although that new Himalayan 450 has fly by wire throttle & riding mode tat installed ,RE seem to be jumping on the tech bandwagon to attract the tech nerds .
There's a place for all of it. Personally I like to know why things happen. As you say, never been as much info as now. No more going down the library for a Haynes manual. 😉👍
The clutch quirk was quite a revelation after 5 years,good find BTW. It would be really great if you could do a first ride impressions of the BSA 650 Goldstar, would love to hear your thoughts on it compared to the Interceptor.Cheers
It’s hard to understand how an oil and filter change can cost 180, my brothers Triumph was worse last year at 250. In the UK we’re still locked into dealer service for bikes (not cars) to keep the warranty. In my brother’s case two year warranty ends this year and he’ll be doing his own service from now on.
All true I guess. I thought if I did it myself to Royal Enfield spec (I'd video it to prove the case) then I could keep warranty. But dealers says not the case. A bit of a trap if true. But if I keep it I shall definitely do it myself after warranty. Simple enough, kind of the point of having an 'old school' bike. 👍👍
@@CodgerBiker I know it’s the rule but don’t know if they would be very strict with it. It would be a test if you had a big problem that would be repaired under warranty for the dealer or manufacturer to turn round and say no sorry you didn’t have it serviced at a main dealer so the warranty is cancelled. I did watch a bike channel could have been 44 teeth and a specialist barrister talking about it saying something about you’re only option would be to take them to court but that could easily fail and be expensive.
My thoughts exactly. £180 cheaper than a lawyer. It does annoy though. 👍
£180 !.....Were they standing in the doorway?
👍😂
Yup, just had mine done here in France. €195 for an oil change and next service at 7500kms.
Good info, thank you. Reassuring to know. I reckon I will check the tappets myself after 1000 miles in any case. 👍👍
I bought a 2020 ravishing Red Int.at 800 miles it got a velorex sidecar and has had it on since.19,000 miles.Not one single problem other than some contaminted fuel requiring me to remove tank and clean the fuel filter.I have crossed the worst passes in Colorado weighing in at 1100 lbs. I added free flow exhaust and air filter and geared down one tooth .Most reliable bike i have ever owned.
Great to hear. I won't be adding a sidecar, but it's testament to build quality it can pull one and maintain reliability. 👍👍
I do like the colour combo dude I bought my 790 about the same time as you got yours and did have a few conversations with you back then on insta are you glad you don’t have it now ? I still have mine and am waiting for for the camshaft of death fairy to flutter in😂 I have just bought a second hand 350 classic which I love and have just done my own service £25 for oil and filter change I should think that’s about the price will be if you keep it long enough ☺keep safe dude
Hello again. Yes I remember. I still love KTMs, no other bikes have the attitude. Was staring longingly at an SMT only yesterday. But I also like simple stuff I can, eventually, service myself, like my 40 year old MZ. Hopefully you'll get a recall and it'll be better than new. If only I had funds and a huge garage, I'd keep the lot! 😉👍👍
Interceptor gearbox is one of the best I've had ! One of the best mods I've done ( out of many ) is the fitting of a Venhill featherlight clutch cable that I replaced the oem with after a year as it had got a bit grouchy .
Your bike needs thousand miles on it before it's at its full potential and once you're there your gearbox should be buttery smooth , my bike is 4 years old now and most definitely a keeper , service it my self , only had the first service done at the dealer , kept all the receipts for the work I'd done as I'd deemed myself a competent person .
Please ditch those mirrors ! 😂
Ha ha! I like those mirrors. Much cheaper than the RE Touring mirror, which I might get one day. I love the gearbox on the Interceptor. I love riding it. I was just caught out a couple of times in rush hour traffic. Now I’m used to it, no longer an issue. I do expect it’ll improve with more miles and the new oil. My other air cooled bike is a 40 yr old MZ. It does the same when hot. I just didn’t expect it on a 2024 bike, ha ha! But it does get hot at the moment. I’ve every intention of servicing it myself. No doubt a Venhill will be heading my way in due course. Thanks for the tip 👍👍
Good to know re the clutch/ gears. I had a Ducati Scrambler with same problem, also false neutrals. That was the worst gearbox I have ever had. Not good when dropping down the box towards a roundabout and it goes into neutral and have to knock it up into a higher gear again or lock the back wheel. Pulse other issues. That’s gone!!!
It's not been an issue now I know about it. Gearbox is brilliant otherwise, like it says on their slogan, Made Like A Gun. But it did trip me up to begin with and it's important to know - they even state it in the handbook. But no false neutrals I'm glad to report. 👍👍
Hi yer Codger,
With my RE dealer GT 650 continental in 2022 recommend first yearly service so tappets etc would bed in etc so first oil change was only £79 including oil and filter then first service was done at a milage of about 1500 mile, but noticed a big difference this year in performance after 2nd service bike had done about 2500 miles, plus I'm running a K&N air filter and S&S end cans with stainless down pipes from Hitchcocks.
Regarding gears, the first thing I did was change the clutch cable to one from Venhills much better, a lot of Interceptor owners have fitted the rear sets that on my GT650, brake lever and gear lever apparently the linkage can be sloppy and the feet rest get in the way when you have your feet down 😎
One of the things I like about these bikes is the customisation. Good value service that! 👍👍
Just put up something about gears etc 👍@@CodgerBiker
You are 4th person to recommend Venhills cable. I'll be ordering one at some point. 👍👍
Mine sometimes sticks in 2nd when changing down, you think it’s in first, but it’s not then you try to set off, it really needs a gear indicator, it’s the only thing RE left out.
I can live with it now I understand it 😉👍
£180 😲
There's some profit in that!
You went mono half way through. For me, silent, as I only had one ear hole filled 🙂
Ah, sorry about that. My other helmet is set to record DrJ on the bluetooth. So it's only on one side. I meant to set it to both channels, but forgot. Too late now. 👍
Adjust the clutch and shifter lever
Yep! 👍
Plus, check the relays under the left side panel for goose fat on the terminals
All done 👍
My interceptor is going in for the first service next week. When I booked in with the RE dealer they also said that they have been instructed that the valve clearances are no longer required however, they are give customers the choice as they find that around 80% of the bikes they check require adjustment.
Good info, cheers. I fully intend to check it myself soon enough. Just in case. 👍👍
Strange observation, I've had this 'problem' on every bike, for as long as I can remember, occasionally.
Pull in clutch in neutral, no 1st, release clutch and try again, goes into 1st. Probably not releasing the clutch when stopping seems to be the reason.
First service on the new Triumph next Tuesday, hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
Yes it's sort of thing I get on my 40 year old MZ. Never happened on any other new bike I've run in. Danger of being rear ended if you don't know, in a city full of lead footed Tesla drivers... 👍
I have the same bike, same colour, first service £250 I thought that was good my 24000 mile service on my triumph tiger 800 £970 , 😂
Well that's comparatively cheap then! I just remember when biking was cheap transport. But everything changes, we have to roll with it as some noisy neighbours up the M62 so brilliantly sang. 😉👍👍
Wtf 😳😳😳
Motorcycle gearboxes are mostly non-syncro straight cut gears. When in neutral and the clutch fully disengaged (no clutch drag) both gearbox shafts will be stationary, no gears rotating. In this condition, if the internals are not aligned the gears won't slide into place and need to be rotated slightly to align and slide fully into place. Hence letting the clutch out a bit turns the shafts and allows the gears to engage. It's not a fault, it's an undocumented feature, although partly documented in this case.
I've simplified my explanation a little, it's actually the dogs not engaging - I'm guessing you've never taken a motorcycle gearbox apart - no disrespect.
I've got a gt650, great bikes 👍
No offence taken. Yes I have, but not since the early 80s. I began riding off road about 1977. And I agree it was common back then. My 40 year old MZ, for instance, often needs a bit of persuading. But I have run in many new bikes over the past few years and it has not happened on any of them, ever. I have virtually every ride on video. So to have this happen in rush hour traffic the first couple of times was not expected. I understand your explanation, cheers for that. And it’s exactly how it feels. But I do not know of any other modern bike where this occurs. I also thought it was worth pointing out the instructions in the handbook, which addresses this. I’ve since been ready at the lights and not had an issue. And yes, I love this bike! 👍👍
I have an Interceptor with 1400 miles on the clock. I have had similar problems with the neutral to first gear especially when the engine is hot. I find that pulling the clutch in letting it out again and then pulling it in again the gearbox is fine.
My 40 year old, 2 stroke, MZ is the same. I was just surprised by a new bike doing it. Also when I saw it in the owners book. Agree it's more likely when hot also. But have adapted now. 👍👍
I guess you're the first to read the instructions! Like they say, if all else fails read the instructions 🤣😂🤣
Ha ha! Yes I surprised myself with that one. 😂👍👍
Hi, it's the same in all gears
Gearbox is great on the move. 👍
i have same model ... if it gets hot... probably because its not run in yet... the gearbox gets clunky... like an old 1970's trials bike.... and maybee the indian RE engine oil is low quality..? but its never missed a gear and runs perfect... im not going to panick the cooler weather is almost here in uk...
Totally agree. Now I know about it, it doesn’t bother me. I just thought it worth mentioning, especially as it is noted in the handbook. The gearbox is precise otherwise and the bike a delight to ride. I’m looking forward to seeing how it goes with new oil and miles…👍👍
I don’t know why you don’t service your own bike . They don’t come much easier unless it’s a single, the prices they charge these days for a service is totally taking the piss . A lot of bikes tend to have issues going into neutral especially when hot . All you can do is keep the clutch correctly adjusted not just at the lever end ,some clutches also require adjusting at the push rod actuator end & then the correct amount of play in cable at lever end . Also adjust gear shift into a more comfortable position for positive gear shifts. Changing the oil for a different brand can also help & if the bike has been standing for a week or two , pull the clutch in & out a few times while the bike is ticking over in neutral to free up the clutch . It also helps if you can snick the gear into neutral just before you come to a stop . This saves the rider having to rock the bike forwards & backwards , stomping on the gear shift to find neutral when stationary .
Totally agree on all points. I bought the bike to service myself, even bought filters and oil etc. BUT was told by dealer that I’d invalidate the warranty. So decided to get a first service and see how it went for 12 months. Love the bike and the neutral thing is no issue for me, just unusual on modern bike, but I expect it’ll bed in and I am used to it now. I’ll try a few adjustments and I can check tappets myself - it was normal when I started riding, nobody could afford a garage to service a motorbike. Thanks for watching 👍👍
@@CodgerBiker Same here over 50 years ago ,when I started riding , I was an apprentice joiner & only on low wages , so I had to learn how to service my own bike . Lucky enough I had been spannering my push bikes since about 7 years of age , so was prepared to get hold of a Hynes & Clymer workshop manuals & have a go myself . I gradually got a good set of tools together with the money I saved by not paying out on dealer servicing & repair & been servicing & repairing my bikes & mates bikes ever since . 👍
I too learned on pushbikes. We used to have ten or so rented out to holiday makers in mid-70s. We maintained them ourselves. Moving up to bikes and cars it was fix it yourself, or do without. In a way I think we were lucky. People today daren’t even lift the bonnet without ringing the AA. I’m no expert, but having a go is part of the enjoyment of owning a bike. I like the Enfield because of this in particular. 👍
@@CodgerBiker I prefer the bikes without all the gadgets , easier & cheaper to get your spanner’s into & sort at the side of the road . Half these riders today don’t know how to change a spark plug , or ride a bike without riding modes & slipper & blipper tat or find their way without a sat nav . If they don’t have a go they will never learn, with all the information & tools available today , it’s never been a better time for bikers to start learning to service & maintain their own bikes . The Enfield’s tend to lend themselves to home servicing due to their minimum modern tech , although that new Himalayan 450 has fly by wire throttle & riding mode tat installed ,RE seem to be jumping on the tech bandwagon to attract the tech nerds .
There's a place for all of it. Personally I like to know why things happen. As you say, never been as much info as now. No more going down the library for a Haynes manual. 😉👍
Manual for Manuel 😵💫
No! His name is Miguel!!! 😂👍
@@CodgerBiker But Meester Faulty?!! 🤷🏻♂️
The clutch quirk was quite a revelation after 5 years,good find BTW. It would be really great if you could do a first ride impressions of the BSA 650 Goldstar, would love to hear your thoughts on it compared to the Interceptor.Cheers
He's not from Barcelona! 🫨
Hopefully will try the BSA one day. I love the clocks on it, but not having the inner tubes. 👍