@@totallyluketehcheese3835 It's a metaphor, It's just another way to say "guy", also, If you're still in your teens, you're basically still a kid, as soon as you start making it in your 20's, now you're fully considered a grown up, the highest age for these kind of leagues is about 18 or 19, In conclusion, he is basically still a kid
Thanks, Jay. I've been in broadcasting my whole life (since I was 16). www.RandyBrownVO.com And I used to do play-by-play (of golf) for a living. So I guess I bring a somewhat different skill set to the task of "coaching." But in the end, it's not about the voice. It's about whether a person can communicate. These videos are about celebrating junior bowling and elevating junior bowlers. If somewhere along the way I can sprinkle in a few coaching tips along the way, then these videos serve a useful purpose (in addition to being entertaining, I hope). And if my voice helps this project reach a few more kids (and grown-ups, for that matter), so much the better. I appreciate your kind words more than you know. :-)
dahur - I can't thank you enough for your kind remarks. I'll keep crankin' out these videos as long as our kids keep staying after league to bowl, and as long as the videos keep finding an interested audience. As for my own bowling, I'm always pretty sore and stiff on Saturdays after a short night's sleep. Being a nite owl by nature, I never seem to get a full night's sleep before getting up early on Saturday mornings to coach. Plus, as I mentioned in the video, I'm coming off a bad injury and have only recently started up bowling again after being sidelined for a few months.
BrownswickBowling I love watching these videos I'm a former bowler you and Logan are very good bowlers keep on bowling but I bowl in Pennsylvania I have made it to states 3 times
I know I love bowling like a sickness when I’m watching 3 kids and an old guy shoe up and thoroughly enjoy it. Great video, coach. Love the commentary!
Thanks for posting Coach Randy. You've got some talented young folks there. I love the commercials you put in too, and that Mary Lou Retton commercial is CLASSIC!!
klwhitacre The commercials are a nice add as well....really makes it feel more realistically televised but I like that they are placed in between matches, before / after rather than in the middle of a match.
I have to tell my coach to start making videos like yours for our league so I can stay caught up, as I'm in Megan's shoes- watching these makes me want to be able to routinely bowl again.
Hi Coach Randy, It was really great watching you play finally. And it's funny the way you were talking about yourself. You are very light-hearted and the kids must be enjoying learning from you. I hope they'll get the same attitude as yours when they grow up and become pro. I stumbled up on one of your prodigy tour videos two days back and that's how I met you all. Since then, I'm addicted to you people playing and I kept on coming back to see your games. Sad that I can't meet you in person but I'll be checking out your videos. All the very best to all the kids.
BrownswickBowling did you realise that 7 that spun around actually have you the 9 on the scoreboard instead of saying you got 8 but big deal it should of fell anyway
The Legendary E - Frankly I'm surprised I haven't made more mistakes in generating the on-screen score graphics. It's a lot of repetitive, tedious work. Fortunately, in this case, it didn't matter in the score since I was working on a strike and didn't lose any count since I made the spare. No harm, no foul.
BrownswickBowling ya I know I just wanted to know if you saw it but it should have fell anyway and I'm sure if you guys could get some shootouts you would have so many subscribers this is a great channel I subd and watch all the videos good luck for the future thanks for the reply
Ask the mechanic if you can get there before he leaves ( they usually work days. ) and ask him to check the transfer height of the pit board on lane 40. If as I suspect it's a mite lower it would slow the pins into the pinwheel thereby delaying the ball from reaching the ball lift rods. Quite often when that type of issue arises it traps the ball so occasionally the ball cushion comes down on top of the ball giving you an uncalled for 1'st ball cycle.
I enjoyed this telecast especially watching you bowl Randy even though Megan stole the show. Surprised you didn’t bowl a three game set.
7 років тому+2
Randy., you are doing a great job with the kids and these vids.. As someone who has also dealt with knee and ankle issues, I recommend obviou,sly losing weight and getting into the pool at a local club or gym. It works wonders for weight loss and takes the stress off your joints and ligaments when rehabbing and working out. I just started this month and have already lost 10lbs and this is without major diet change. Best of luck to you and the kids and I hope you stay healthy so you can continue to bowl and make great bowling vids! Cheers.
The kid who was practicing to our left hasn't yet bowled on our little webcast. Eventually we'll get him to stay and bowl with us. This kid has incredible up side potential. But he's a bit like a wild stallion right now. His swing is almost vertical at the top, which causes him all kinds of accuracy problems. Plus, he puts more hand on the ball even than Logan; so much so, that he has a hard time playing a lot of lanes because he hooks it too much. I'm trying to get him to dial down his axis rotation some so he can gain some consistency. Has the most natural release of any kid in our program. He just doesn't know which zip code the ball will end up in at the end of the lane. We're working with him. I think he has unlimited potential if he ever makes bowling a priority. (Right now, his thing is baseball. He has serious potential as a pitcher.) But he's smart, so I know he can get it if he decides to listen.
I bowled YABA with a kid who was a pitcher. He was a heck of a bowler. One of the most talented bowlers I have bowled with. He actually pitched in college.
The best bowling tour in the world today! The PBA decided to use an overhead camera angle from the ceiling for this past weeks World Series championship giving viewers no POV that they ever will use in any bowling alley on the planet.
TraumaER - I actually love the high camera angle. However, sometimes the ESPN cameramen zoom so fast, they zoom in past the ball and you lose sight of the ball. These are trained professionals who should know that the first rule of televising sports is "keep your eye (camera) on the ball."
BrownswickBowling agree. However I like your camera angle where it shows the ball reaction as regular bowlers see it during their leagues. I really hate the angle ESPN used for years in the late 1990s where they have a camera in the gutter or something and showing the ball spinning towards the pins. Can't really see what's going on. I like how the PBA50 tour films their shows. Just 2 cameras with the main one behind the bowlers near the seated areas. Keep up the videos!
TraumaER - Yes, the ESPN guttercam is useless. We're already talking about getting some other folks to let us use their cameras for our end-of-season Tournament of Champions in May. I can promise, if we put a camera on the cover of the ball return, it will be pointed at the pins, not the bowler. However if you want to see a 'cast with some interesting angles, check out our webcast of Charlie and Logan from 10/22. That was the first show I shot with my iPhone, and the whole thing was shot hand-held.
My take on the 4. Christian has a high ceiling but needs a lot of work on consistent speed/form.Megan is ok but seems not so interested.Logan needs to read the line better and seems the ball is too heavy for him.Randy ..well ,haha,he has to hit flush because has very little ball,meaning he won't get the carry unless high flush but he plays simple and within his realm.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Christian is being held back by hi unwillingness to make fundamental changes to his game that would (a.) fix his timing, and (b.) make him more consistent. He's also not the best at reading ball reaction and adjusting on sport shots, a necessity nowadays. Megan is now off at college and is a valuable asset to her bowling team. I have no idea what, if any, aspirations she has as far as becoming a professional bowler is concerned. I suspect she has other plans for her life. So being a more than competent female recreational bowler going forward in her life is not such a bad thing. She'll beat most of the women bowlers in Atlanta. Logan is this close to being a champion bowler. Certainly he has won numerous area tournaments, but no biggies...yet. But he will. He's been right there, in contention to win one for the past several years, and he's due. As for me, my best playing days are behind me. I just turned 66 (I was 64 when this was shot). As recently as the last couple of years (when this was shot), I had won a total 13 tournaments. Thirteen. Not PBA tournaments of course. And not super big tournaments. But every one of them had some quality players in the field, and in some cases, had some of the top amateur tournament bowlers and/or top collegiate bowlers in the area in the field. So I make no apoligies for my game. It is (and it was) was it is/was. I'm physically not what I used to be. But I carry plenty of off-hits, so to say I need to hit high flush is simply inaccurate. But today, two years after this video was shot, I haven't bowled much in the past two years, ever since I blew out my ankle (which happened just a few months before this video was shot). I was lucky, at the time, to be able to WALK, let alone bowl. So again, I make no apologies. The one thing I always could do was strike in the 10th when I needed one. I suspect if I went out and practiced to get my game back in shape, I'd still be able to do it...because that's less a physical skill than a mental one. Thanks for your assessment. Wish you could come bowl PRODIGY with us. I'd love to see you take on the kids I see bowl in these things every week. Something tells me they'd wind your clock.
In hindsight, I think I had the wrong ball. I was throwing my IQ Tour Nano, which is sort of my benchmark ball. But the back ends weren't quite finishing enough for that ball. It has a nice smooth motion, but given how little I've bowled in the last few months, I'm just not throwing it all that great. I probably should have been throwing my Lock or my Crux Pearl. Something that gives me a little more kick on the back. Oh well.
Dragon Fire67 - You would have to ask him. He's 13, so I don't think he has to decide right away. Although I would say he certainly has the talent to turn pro some day should he decide to pursue that.
When you have a 180 on a machine tell Logan that pressing the reset button won't do anything but possibly lock up the pinsetter if it starts moving. When I had my own center as a head mechanic is used a liquid mercury switch to lock out the reset push button to prevent bowler induced 180's. I went from an average of 30 plus bowler 180's in open bowling to eliminating the problem. Randy you should send in an video tape to CBS just to see if they like your voice for professional bowling, You might get surprised what do you have to lose?
Hope my 7 year old son Nathan Mosqueda Ian this good in a few years! He’s only taken up the sport about 7 months ago and averages about a 135. I have a few videos of him up.
Believe it or not, the city I live in does not have any junior bowling leagues, so I am in a doubles league with another junior bowler as my teammate and we are the only junior bowlers in our league
YES!! I am soo happy there is another video out! This one is just as great, I love the doubles format and love the pairing done this week. Great job, keep up the great work. Also love the commentary had me literally laughing out loud the other week when you made the "crunch." comment. Does Megan do collegiate bowling?
BrownswickBowling Awesome! Hope they all keep at it. I am really enjoying this channel and watching the Prodigy Tour. I look forward to seeing Megan back again, and hope to see the bowler from lane 38 on the videos soon.
I think I know why lane 40 is cycling, it’s because the ball is stuck down there and it’s stuck where the ball hits the cushion and when the sweep rises the ball triggers the cushion causing the sweep to go down. I know that because the ball has not made it to the bowl return.
Nick was bowling out of his mind that day. I looked up at the scoreboard above his head and saw that he bowled 250 or 260 something one of the games he shot while bowling next to us. Frankly, I'd never seen him bowl that well. He's got tons of potential, but as I told someone else, he has a backswing that is almost vertical (and on some swings, almost goes past vertical). He can't control it. No one can control that. (And why would they want to?) But he's a bright young man, so it's been something of a conundrum for me to figure out how to break through to him. He's a bona fide talent on the pitcher's mound in baseball, so I know he's well aware that there are certain fundamentals that apply in every sport. So my inability to get through to him about his bowling has been a bit of a head scratcher. But on this particular day, he seemed to show that a light may have gone on above his head. I think that's why he decided to stay after league and practice. And sure enough, he got some great results, which you see on lane 38. Now, the question is: Will he stay with the changes he made when we return to bowl again on January 7th? Or will he have forgotten all about it and revert back to his vertical swing? We'll see. Hopefully he'll remember the success he had (and maybe read some of these positive comments he's receiving from people like you) and be motivated to stay with the adjustments he made. I hope so. I like this kid a lot, and I think he could be really good.
Logan, I can tell you're very young and have a lot of talent! Congrats on the 300 at White Sands!!! I do have a tip for you though.. If you wanted to work on something I would try getting the ball into the swing earlier so you don't have to 'wait' on the ball so much. Getting the ball earlier into the swing will allow your legs to help put more speed on the ball... hope this helps! Enjoy watching these videos!!!
That Pit Curtain in the back of Lane 38 was loose. I wonder how Nick’s ball got returned cause if a Pit Curtain is loose, then balls would get stuck in the back.
Hey Randy, Just wanted to say I love the broadcast. They're really entertaining and the production value is great. I really hope they keep going for many years to come. Also kudos to the youth bowlers you have on they're all incredibly talented (and with many decades of bowling ahead of them). Ending on a quick question: I've noticed you advise bowlers on the broadcast to throw a spare ball at the 7 pin. I was always advised to throw a hooking ball in to it and have had success with that. I can't argue with your advice as it seems to work for the kids you coach but just wondering the reasoning behind advising a spare ball to pick up the 7 pin. Happy holidays and thanks for all your hard work putting these broadcasts out.
cnn7 - It's a great question. For years, I chose not to throw a spare ball, opting instead to throw my strike ball and just flatten out my shot at right side spares and throwing my normal hook at left side spares. Then at my Bronze Coaching Certification class, my instructor, USBC Hall of Famer John Gaines explained to me his method of spare shooting. Spare ball at everything (and always using the 4th arrow) except double wood or spares in the middle of the lane (5 pins, 1-2 combinations) where you can throw your strike ball off your strike target at the arrows. What finally convinced me that using a spare ball and the 4th arrow for most spares is the way to go is that the spare ball tends to take the lane conditions out of play, and the most oil on the lane is typically in the middle of the lane. So your alignment for spares shouldn't change much, if at all, from house to house and from lane condition to lane condition. This method works equally well on house shots and sport shots. But if you throw your strike ball at spares, you might have to make huge adjustments on where you stand depending on the lane conditions you're bowling on. Using a spare ball over the 4th arrow, you're taking the lane conditions almost entirely out of play. The results will be much more predictable, day to day, lane to lane, house to house, pattern to pattern.
Cody Nelson - It takes a little getting used to. But if you bowl on sport patterns, or if you bowl in tournaments or at multiple houses, I think you'll find it's worth the investment of time to practice this system enough to get used to it.
Paintballer27 - I was born and grew up in the Greater Kansas City area. Haven't lived there since graduating high school in 1970 and "leaving the nest."
I can't really hook my ball very much. I have a tropical storm ball and I might throw it to fast. Some times 15 or 16 miles per hour. When I first got my ball it would hook alot but now I can't seem to make it move. It still goes through the pins but I feel like I'm throwing it straight. How can I fix this.
For starters, the Tropical Storm is not one of Storm's more aggressive balls. Throw it on lanes with fresh oil and you can expect it to hydroplane most of the way down the lane. It's more for when lanes have started to dry out...or your ball speed is pretty slow. Second, ALL reactive resin bowling balls (and the Tropical Storm is one such ball) will lose their hook power after a while. That's because at a microscopic level, the cover stock of these reactive resin balls are very porous. If you were to look at the surface of the ball with a microscope, you'd see that it's like a mountain range, with lots of little peaks and valleys. (Not obvious to the naked eye or to the human touch.) As a result, whenever you roll the ball down the lane, conditioner (oil) from the lane's surface will be picked up off the lane (that's why you see those oil rings around the ball after you throw it), and some of that oil will soak down into the pores on the ball's surface. Over time, enough of that oil becomes absorbed into the ball and the ball simply becomes too slippery on its surface (because it's covered in oil) to be able to generate much friction on the lane (which is what causes hook). All ball manufacturers recommend cleaning the ball with ball cleaning solution after every bowling session. That's not just a gimmick to get you to buy cleaning solution (you can make your own--look around online for the better recipes); it's to enable you to extend the life of your bowling ball. But even with regular cleaning, all reactive resin balls require that you occasionally get them "deep cleaned," or as I call it, "de-oilled." The easiest (though most expensive) way to do this is to take the ball to your pro shop. They'll keep it overnight and put it in an oven or a solution of hot, soapy water. Or you can leave it in your trunk all day on a hot, summer day, and when you come out, the ball will be covered in oily goop. Wipe it off with an alcohol-based solution of some kind and that'll solve part of the problem. But realistically, the best way to fix this problem is to (a.) get a ball spinner and take the surface of the ball down to about 360 or 500 grit to open up the pores on the surface of the ball, (b.) depending on the ball manufacturer's recommendation, either soak the ball in hot, soapy (Dawn dish soap is ideal for this) water (Storm recommends this on their bowling balls) OR leave it in a low-heat oven MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR BOWLING BALLS (don't put your ball in the dishwasher or kitchen oven as it'll sit too close to a heating element and could crack). (Brunswick recommends the hot, dry oven method on their balls.) Then, (c.) after it's been through the cleaning step, put the ball back on the ball spinner and return the surface to either its factory specs or your desired grit level. This is the most effective method of restoring a ball to as close to its original "hookability" as is possible. I have a ball spinner and know how to do this on my own equipment, so I do it all the time. But if you don't have a ball spinner or are just not comfortable making such changes to your equipment, I strongly recommend taking it into your pro shop and letting them do it. Tell 'em you want the ball completely resurfaced, deep cleaned, and restored to its original factory specs and you'll see a discernible difference in the ball's performance.
You'll have to ask your pro shop what they charge, and specifically what they do for that amount. But I would guess it might run somewhere in the $35 range.
BrownswickBowling I'm sorry that i am asking so many questions But is there a ball that would last longer. Like have a good performance for a longer amount of time.
There really isn't. Reactive resin bowling balls all require this kind of treatment to extract the oil from the pores of the cover stock. Depending on how much you bowl, once a year might be enough (if you only bowl, say 3 games every week or two) or you might need to do it once every couple of months (if you bowl 50-100 games each week like some of us have been known to do). It all depends on your habits. That said, you could always go to throwing a straight urethane ball (like the Storm Pitch Black, Pitch Blue or the Hammer Black Urethane). The problem with these urethane balls is that unless you have a pretty high rev rate, you're not going to get a lot of ball motion out of them. That's what makes reactive balls so special. Urethane doesn't have the same pores that soak up oil the way reactive balls do. But regardless, you'll decrease the number of times per year you need to take the ball in to have it deep cleaned if you'll just get into the habit of wiping the oil rings off EVERY SINGLE TIME you get up to bowl, and clean the ball with a cleaning solution after EVERY SINGLE TIME you finish bowling and head home from the bowling center. (Better to do it with one of these shammys they now sell instead of a towel. The shammys seem to do a better job of lifting the oil off the ball.) The more diligent you are about maintaining your equipment, the longer it will maintain its performance characteristics. That said, all bowling balls tend to get something called "ball shine" after, really, just a few games out of the box. "Ball shine" is where a dull ball will start to gain a bit of shininess to its cover. That can be easily fixed with an abralon pad. (And abralon pads are cheap. I buy 'em 5 or 6 to a box...in all grits...for about $17 on eBay.) But I would recommend consulting with a pro shop operator before you start sanding your bowling balls. You first kinda want to know what you're doing. (And remember, you can't do it in the middle of competition -- that's against USBC rules.)
As mind boggling as it may be, "the old guy" actually *was* PBA for about five years back in the late '70s/early '80s, and I don't mind saying had a pretty good record at cashing (over half the events I bowled in). But they were few in number. Bowling on the pro tour was never a career option for me, as I already had a successful career in broadcasting. Bowling was more of an outlet for me to satisfy my competitive jones. It was fun while it lasted. In recent years, after I got back into it (albeit at a decidedly less professional status), I won 13 tournaments (small ones, but each one had some good players in it) over about a two-year period before I blew out my ankle.
Your voice seemed really familiar your doing a wonderful job these kids are going to look back with some wonderful loving memories. This is something to really b proud of. I remember the guy that helped me when I was younger Tom brown he threw a lefty ball with right hand I think he only used a Brunswick Xs was white he’d always gimme his keys to his truck I’d go get his big old checks and just marvel. Those big checks didn’t have to say much the power can b all in the size! I’d have been great if I’d not fell victim to a national epidemic. That’s all I have to say about that!
Yes, that's what I thought, too. But when Megan showed up unexpectedly this past Saturday (home from college for the holidays) and bowled as a pacer with some of our juniors, and then wanted to stay and bowl with us afterwards (she's been watching these Prodigy Bowlers Tour shows), well, we just had to bowl with her. And I wouldn't have even thought of doing so without filming it. Megan grew up in our junior leagues, and it was great to see her again. As you will see, she put on quite a show.
Are there any two handed prodigy bowlers I can watch? My one handed two finger hook sucks and am trying to improve my two hands since I get much more speed and revs with it.
Christian needs to slow down his ball on those 7 pins. I'm left handed so for me it's be ten pins, but what I do is move to the middle (i stand 10-15 boards right usually) and i throw my ball to the second arrow, very slowly but with the same amount of revs. Works magic. Ball goes straight through every pin on the right 3, 6, 9 and 10. Never miss a right side spare with it.
@Brandon P. - The problem with the method you've described is that you may have to make significant adjustments to where you stand and where you throw it at the arrows when you're bowling on certain sport patterns. You can't count on your strike ball behaving the same way when throwing cross lane from one pattern to the next. That's why I strongly urge players to use a spare ball (plastic or urethane) and use the 4th arrow, thereby playing down the center of the lane where the most oil typically sits. You're far less likely to have to adjust more than maybe a board from house to house and pattern to pattern on your spares using this method. I know where to stand to shoot a 7 pin playing it off the 4th arrow, and it won't matter if I'm bowling on a house shot or most any oil pattern you can throw at me, and the angles will be the same regardless. With a strike ball, you might have to move to a whole different part of the approach (or the lane) to play the same spare on different patterns.
BrownswickBowling I definitely feel you there. I only use my method on house patterns because I can easily adjust for the movement of my ball. On sport patterns it's not as reliable. So I'll throw the old trusty T-Zone.
I'm not a big fan of shooting spares one way on a house shot and another way on sport shots. The whole reason for building your spare game around using a spare ball (or figuring out how to throw your strike ball straight) is to take the lane conditions completely out of play, so that your lines and angles used for shooting varioius spares will travel well, and you won't have to recalibrate with every pattern, in every house. It's durable, and will work everywhere. So switching back and forth between the two methods only reduces the number of repetitions a player gets in working on his game. I say, do it one way, and do it the same way every time. The one exception I make is when a spare has a sleeper (double wood), like the 3-6-9 or 2-4-5-8. Then I want to hook into the pins to carry out the back one. But other than that, (and perhaps spares around the 5 pin area, or something like the 1-2-4 where all I need is to throw a Brooklyn strike ball and can just move my feet a few boards right and throw my normal strike ball), those would be exceptions to my "spare ball over the 4th arrow" method -- the one that I teach.
C'mon man even great bowlers can have sub-par games(Even though I don't think any of them had bad games). Christian had a 299 a while back, that's a really talented bowler.
Blake Fries heck I had a string of weeks where I would shoot at least a 170 average and one 200 weekly and in between those I averaged 140. We all have bad weeks- I might not be as talented as these kids but I still have good and bad weeks relative to my average.
That guy on lane 38 was having a good day
guy on lane 38 was tearing it up!
Carl Vandenberg that is nick
Carl Vandenberg says no one🤣
Lmao I was about to comment that
I know
That kid on 38 is throwing a gorgeous ball
Joshua Johnson I don't think it's a kid
@@totallyluketehcheese3835 It's a metaphor, It's just another way to say "guy", also, If you're still in your teens, you're basically still a kid, as soon as you start making it in your 20's, now you're fully considered a grown up, the highest age for these kind of leagues is about 18 or 19, In conclusion, he is basically still a kid
Typo Turner - dude we're not in English class
Lol
I think that’s a man not a kid
You know what, Randy you have a great announcer voice. I love this series. Everyone should watch.
Thanks, Jay. I've been in broadcasting my whole life (since I was 16). www.RandyBrownVO.com And I used to do play-by-play (of golf) for a living. So I guess I bring a somewhat different skill set to the task of "coaching." But in the end, it's not about the voice. It's about whether a person can communicate. These videos are about celebrating junior bowling and elevating junior bowlers. If somewhere along the way I can sprinkle in a few coaching tips along the way, then these videos serve a useful purpose (in addition to being entertaining, I hope). And if my voice helps this project reach a few more kids (and grown-ups, for that matter), so much the better. I appreciate your kind words more than you know. :-)
i gave out a loud laugh when i saw the name "lady and the shrimp", that was a good one!
I'm addicted to these Prodigy videos...keep them coming. Randy, you're the man, you still got it..! Great show.
dahur - I can't thank you enough for your kind remarks. I'll keep crankin' out these videos as long as our kids keep staying after league to bowl, and as long as the videos keep finding an interested audience. As for my own bowling, I'm always pretty sore and stiff on Saturdays after a short night's sleep. Being a nite owl by nature, I never seem to get a full night's sleep before getting up early on Saturday mornings to coach. Plus, as I mentioned in the video, I'm coming off a bad injury and have only recently started up bowling again after being sidelined for a few months.
You did great..!
BrownswickBowling I love watching these videos I'm a former bowler you and Logan are very good bowlers keep on bowling but I bowl in Pennsylvania I have made it to states 3 times
I know I love bowling like a sickness when I’m watching 3 kids and an old guy shoe up and thoroughly enjoy it. Great video, coach. Love the commentary!
3:15 kid on lane 38 gets that messenger
“Through the grace of God” 😂
Thanks for posting Coach Randy. You've got some talented young folks there. I love the commercials you put in too, and that Mary Lou Retton commercial is CLASSIC!!
klwhitacre - The commercials are part of the fun. :-)
klwhitacre The commercials are a nice add as well....really makes it feel more realistically televised but I like that they are placed in between matches, before / after rather than in the middle of a match.
Randy your commentary is pretty hilarious. Thanks
I have to tell my coach to start making videos like yours for our league so I can stay caught up, as I'm in Megan's shoes- watching these makes me want to be able to routinely bowl again.
August Geiermann hey do u want my number
I'd actually rather watch the guy on the left of the 2 lanes bowl.
slaiyfershin - We'll get him on the show soon.
good
I enjoy watching the prodigy bowlers tour i enjoy watching logan
The commentary on this is hilarious! Its convinced me to do similar with my bowling videos!
3 years ago. Can’t believe it’s been so long already. Here’s to another 3 and more.
Hi Coach Randy, It was really great watching you play finally. And it's funny the way you were talking about yourself. You are very light-hearted and the kids must be enjoying learning from you. I hope they'll get the same attitude as yours when they grow up and become pro. I stumbled up on one of your prodigy tour videos two days back and that's how I met you all. Since then, I'm addicted to you people playing and I kept on coming back to see your games. Sad that I can't meet you in person but I'll be checking out your videos. All the very best to all the kids.
Oh my I didn't realize I left you hanging Randy! I'm sorry! It's at 35:05
LOL! I'll get over it.
BrownswickBowling did you realise that 7 that spun around actually have you the 9 on the scoreboard instead of saying you got 8 but big deal it should of fell anyway
The Legendary E - Frankly I'm surprised I haven't made more mistakes in generating the on-screen score graphics. It's a lot of repetitive, tedious work. Fortunately, in this case, it didn't matter in the score since I was working on a strike and didn't lose any count since I made the spare. No harm, no foul.
BrownswickBowling ya I know I just wanted to know if you saw it but it should have fell anyway and I'm sure if you guys could get some shootouts you would have so many subscribers this is a great channel I subd and watch all the videos good luck for the future thanks for the reply
BrownswickBowling shoutouts not shootouts sorry auto correct
Thank you for uploading another!! :)
i still watch the old videos because seeing logan fossum play is awesome
LOL Randy's complaint about how the 7 pin was spinning in place is so me every time I bowl
Love the videos and keep them up, hope your injury gets better! ^~^
I really like this tour videos I watch every one tell them to keep it up!!!!
I love this series. I will ALWAYS have notifications on for this channel. Keep the good podcasts up.
Thanks, Twisty. Stay tuned. I've got a few surprises in store. :-)
Logan is one hell of a Bowler…. He stays with it…. We will see him on the PBR…
Ask the mechanic if you can get there before he leaves ( they usually work days. ) and ask him to check the transfer height of the pit board on lane 40. If as I suspect it's a mite lower it would slow the pins into the pinwheel thereby delaying the ball from reaching the ball lift rods. Quite often when that type of issue arises it traps the ball so occasionally the ball cushion comes down on top of the ball giving you an uncalled for 1'st ball cycle.
I enjoyed this telecast especially watching you bowl Randy even though Megan stole the show. Surprised you didn’t bowl a three game set.
Randy., you are doing a great job with the kids and these vids.. As someone who has also dealt with knee and ankle issues, I recommend obviou,sly losing weight and getting into the pool at a local club or gym. It works wonders for weight loss and takes the stress off your joints and ligaments when rehabbing and working out. I just started this month and have already lost 10lbs and this is without major diet change. Best of luck to you and the kids and I hope you stay healthy so you can continue to bowl and make great bowling vids! Cheers.
Dang even the guy next to you is great do you all spread greatness like the flu
The kid who was practicing to our left hasn't yet bowled on our little webcast. Eventually we'll get him to stay and bowl with us. This kid has incredible up side potential. But he's a bit like a wild stallion right now. His swing is almost vertical at the top, which causes him all kinds of accuracy problems. Plus, he puts more hand on the ball even than Logan; so much so, that he has a hard time playing a lot of lanes because he hooks it too much. I'm trying to get him to dial down his axis rotation some so he can gain some consistency. Has the most natural release of any kid in our program. He just doesn't know which zip code the ball will end up in at the end of the lane. We're working with him. I think he has unlimited potential if he ever makes bowling a priority. (Right now, his thing is baseball. He has serious potential as a pitcher.) But he's smart, so I know he can get it if he decides to listen.
I'll be waiting for the day he joins
I bowled YABA with a kid who was a pitcher. He was a heck of a bowler. One of the most talented bowlers I have bowled with. He actually pitched in college.
Ive been having tournament against megans school! I didnt realize it but I knew I recognized her from something! Turns out it was prodigy bowlers tour
The best bowling tour in the world today! The PBA decided to use an overhead camera angle from the ceiling for this past weeks World Series championship giving viewers no POV that they ever will use in any bowling alley on the planet.
TraumaER - I actually love the high camera angle. However, sometimes the ESPN cameramen zoom so fast, they zoom in past the ball and you lose sight of the ball. These are trained professionals who should know that the first rule of televising sports is "keep your eye (camera) on the ball."
BrownswickBowling agree. However I like your camera angle where it shows the ball reaction as regular bowlers see it during their leagues. I really hate the angle ESPN used for years in the late 1990s where they have a camera in the gutter or something and showing the ball spinning towards the pins. Can't really see what's going on. I like how the PBA50 tour films their shows. Just 2 cameras with the main one behind the bowlers near the seated areas. Keep up the videos!
TraumaER - Yes, the ESPN guttercam is useless. We're already talking about getting some other folks to let us use their cameras for our end-of-season Tournament of Champions in May. I can promise, if we put a camera on the cover of the ball return, it will be pointed at the pins, not the bowler. However if you want to see a 'cast with some interesting angles, check out our webcast of Charlie and Logan from 10/22. That was the first show I shot with my iPhone, and the whole thing was shot hand-held.
My take on the 4. Christian has a high ceiling but needs a lot of work on consistent speed/form.Megan is ok but seems not so interested.Logan needs to read the line better and seems the ball is too heavy for him.Randy ..well ,haha,he has to hit flush because has very little ball,meaning he won't get the carry unless high flush but he plays simple and within his realm.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Christian is being held back by hi unwillingness to make fundamental changes to his game that would (a.) fix his timing, and (b.) make him more consistent. He's also not the best at reading ball reaction and adjusting on sport shots, a necessity nowadays. Megan is now off at college and is a valuable asset to her bowling team. I have no idea what, if any, aspirations she has as far as becoming a professional bowler is concerned. I suspect she has other plans for her life. So being a more than competent female recreational bowler going forward in her life is not such a bad thing. She'll beat most of the women bowlers in Atlanta. Logan is this close to being a champion bowler. Certainly he has won numerous area tournaments, but no biggies...yet. But he will. He's been right there, in contention to win one for the past several years, and he's due. As for me, my best playing days are behind me. I just turned 66 (I was 64 when this was shot). As recently as the last couple of years (when this was shot), I had won a total 13 tournaments. Thirteen. Not PBA tournaments of course. And not super big tournaments. But every one of them had some quality players in the field, and in some cases, had some of the top amateur tournament bowlers and/or top collegiate bowlers in the area in the field. So I make no apoligies for my game. It is (and it was) was it is/was. I'm physically not what I used to be. But I carry plenty of off-hits, so to say I need to hit high flush is simply inaccurate. But today, two years after this video was shot, I haven't bowled much in the past two years, ever since I blew out my ankle (which happened just a few months before this video was shot). I was lucky, at the time, to be able to WALK, let alone bowl. So again, I make no apologies. The one thing I always could do was strike in the 10th when I needed one. I suspect if I went out and practiced to get my game back in shape, I'd still be able to do it...because that's less a physical skill than a mental one.
Thanks for your assessment. Wish you could come bowl PRODIGY with us. I'd love to see you take on the kids I see bowl in these things every week. Something tells me they'd wind your clock.
In hindsight, I think I had the wrong ball. I was throwing my IQ Tour Nano, which is sort of my benchmark ball. But the back ends weren't quite finishing enough for that ball. It has a nice smooth motion, but given how little I've bowled in the last few months, I'm just not throwing it all that great. I probably should have been throwing my Lock or my Crux Pearl. Something that gives me a little more kick on the back. Oh well.
BrownswickBowling is Logan going to be a proffestinal bowler
BrownswickBowling who was talking if you were bowling
Dragon Fire67 - LOL! That's me talking, and that's me bowling. It's magic.
Dragon Fire67 - You would have to ask him. He's 13, so I don't think he has to decide right away. Although I would say he certainly has the talent to turn pro some day should he decide to pursue that.
He records all commentary in post-production.
Practice swing past right side of face, follow through: hyper grab to the left side of the face...
When you have a 180 on a machine tell Logan that pressing the reset button won't do anything but possibly lock up the pinsetter if it starts moving. When I had my own center as a head mechanic is used a liquid mercury switch to lock out the reset push button to prevent bowler induced 180's. I went from an average of 30 plus bowler 180's in open bowling to eliminating the problem.
Randy you should send in an video tape to CBS just to see if they like your voice for professional bowling,
You might get surprised what do you have to lose?
This may be an odd question but have you guys seen anyone throw a Motiv Freestyle or Storm Match Pearl? And if so, which do you think is better?
Hope my 7 year old son Nathan Mosqueda Ian this good in a few years! He’s only taken up the sport about 7 months ago and averages about a 135. I have a few videos of him up.
+Tony Mosqueda - 135 avg. at age 7 definitely puts him ahead of the curve.
that's pretty good
Believe it or not, the city I live in does not have any junior bowling leagues, so I am in a doubles league with another junior bowler as my teammate and we are the only junior bowlers in our league
We don't even have a bowling alley but I love bowling
I
YES!! I am soo happy there is another video out! This one is just as great, I love the doubles format and love the pairing done this week. Great job, keep up the great work. Also love the commentary had me literally laughing out loud the other week when you made the "crunch." comment. Does Megan do collegiate bowling?
Kyah Rose - Yes she does.
BrownswickBowling Awesome! Hope they all keep at it. I am really enjoying this channel and watching the Prodigy Tour. I look forward to seeing Megan back again, and hope to see the bowler from lane 38 on the videos soon.
They guy on lane 38 has incredible throws.
I think I know why lane 40 is cycling, it’s because the ball is stuck down there and it’s stuck where the ball hits the cushion and when the sweep rises the ball triggers the cushion causing the sweep to go down. I know that because the ball has not made it to the bowl return.
Shout out Logan for teaching me how 2 hook a ball! Now I’m Out here looking like a pro compared 2 my friends lol
Yeah! I wanna see Nick on yer show! That dude was rippin' em!!!
John Mccartney he had like 90% strikes over this entire recording. Is this real life lol?
Nick was bowling out of his mind that day. I looked up at the scoreboard above his head and saw that he bowled 250 or 260 something one of the games he shot while bowling next to us. Frankly, I'd never seen him bowl that well. He's got tons of potential, but as I told someone else, he has a backswing that is almost vertical (and on some swings, almost goes past vertical). He can't control it. No one can control that. (And why would they want to?) But he's a bright young man, so it's been something of a conundrum for me to figure out how to break through to him. He's a bona fide talent on the pitcher's mound in baseball, so I know he's well aware that there are certain fundamentals that apply in every sport. So my inability to get through to him about his bowling has been a bit of a head scratcher. But on this particular day, he seemed to show that a light may have gone on above his head. I think that's why he decided to stay after league and practice. And sure enough, he got some great results, which you see on lane 38. Now, the question is: Will he stay with the changes he made when we return to bowl again on January 7th? Or will he have forgotten all about it and revert back to his vertical swing? We'll see. Hopefully he'll remember the success he had (and maybe read some of these positive comments he's receiving from people like you) and be motivated to stay with the adjustments he made. I hope so. I like this kid a lot, and I think he could be really good.
If you hadn't already noticed, check out what happens at :23:10 as he very nearly converts the Greek Church!
BrownswickBowling I am going to be working on my swing all through the break, and 10 pins of course with hopefully a new spare ball!
Nick Gilbert - Yayyyyyyy!!!!!!!
Logan, I can tell you're very young and have a lot of talent! Congrats on the 300 at White Sands!!! I do have a tip for you though.. If you wanted to work on something I would try getting the ball into the swing earlier so you don't have to 'wait' on the ball so much. Getting the ball earlier into the swing will allow your legs to help put more speed on the ball... hope this helps! Enjoy watching these videos!!!
23:12 Woah, Nick almost picked up the Greek Church
That Pit Curtain in the back of Lane 38 was loose. I wonder how Nick’s ball got returned cause if a Pit Curtain is loose, then balls would get stuck in the back.
Happy new year
You posted this on my 4 birthday lol
Hey Randy,
Just wanted to say I love the broadcast. They're really entertaining and the production value is great. I really hope they keep going for many years to come. Also kudos to the youth bowlers you have on they're all incredibly talented (and with many decades of bowling ahead of them).
Ending on a quick question: I've noticed you advise bowlers on the broadcast to throw a spare ball at the 7 pin. I was always advised to throw a hooking ball in to it and have had success with that. I can't argue with your advice as it seems to work for the kids you coach but just wondering the reasoning behind advising a spare ball to pick up the 7 pin.
Happy holidays and thanks for all your hard work putting these broadcasts out.
cnn7 - It's a great question. For years, I chose not to throw a spare ball, opting instead to throw my strike ball and just flatten out my shot at right side spares and throwing my normal hook at left side spares. Then at my Bronze Coaching Certification class, my instructor, USBC Hall of Famer John Gaines explained to me his method of spare shooting. Spare ball at everything (and always using the 4th arrow) except double wood or spares in the middle of the lane (5 pins, 1-2 combinations) where you can throw your strike ball off your strike target at the arrows. What finally convinced me that using a spare ball and the 4th arrow for most spares is the way to go is that the spare ball tends to take the lane conditions out of play, and the most oil on the lane is typically in the middle of the lane. So your alignment for spares shouldn't change much, if at all, from house to house and from lane condition to lane condition. This method works equally well on house shots and sport shots. But if you throw your strike ball at spares, you might have to make huge adjustments on where you stand depending on the lane conditions you're bowling on. Using a spare ball over the 4th arrow, you're taking the lane conditions almost entirely out of play. The results will be much more predictable, day to day, lane to lane, house to house, pattern to pattern.
Thanks for the response. It makes sense and you may have just converted me.
Cody Nelson - It takes a little getting used to. But if you bowl on sport patterns, or if you bowl in tournaments or at multiple houses, I think you'll find it's worth the investment of time to practice this system enough to get used to it.
BrownswickBowling how much do spare balls usually cost? Just want to know
Was the ball Logan was using mostly for the 2nd game the Gauntlet Fury?
Idk but I think is an impluse
Randy what part of Missouri are you from, I love the vids
Paintballer27 - I was born and grew up in the Greater Kansas City area. Haven't lived there since graduating high school in 1970 and "leaving the nest."
alright thanks for replying and i think that it is cool that you come from the show me state
Paintballer27 - I've been everywhere, man. 'Cross the desert sand, man. :-)
same here!!
kansas city represent! Oak Park high school student here!🙏🏻
Randy - watching this early, are you playing 2nd arrow on 39 and 1st arrow on 40? Just curious cuz your style is similar to mine.
You're asking me to recall where I was playing in a match I bowled two years ago, when I don't remember what I ate for breakfast this morning.
This vid is for lane 39 and 40..but why i watch lane 38? Anyone doing the same?
What is the yellow ball Christian is using?
Did the guy in lane 38 throw a 300 game ????
I can't really hook my ball very much. I have a tropical storm ball and I might throw it to fast. Some times 15 or 16 miles per hour. When I first got my ball it would hook alot but now I can't seem to make it move. It still goes through the pins but I feel like I'm throwing it straight. How can I fix this.
For starters, the Tropical Storm is not one of Storm's more aggressive balls. Throw it on lanes with fresh oil and you can expect it to hydroplane most of the way down the lane. It's more for when lanes have started to dry out...or your ball speed is pretty slow. Second, ALL reactive resin bowling balls (and the Tropical Storm is one such ball) will lose their hook power after a while. That's because at a microscopic level, the cover stock of these reactive resin balls are very porous. If you were to look at the surface of the ball with a microscope, you'd see that it's like a mountain range, with lots of little peaks and valleys. (Not obvious to the naked eye or to the human touch.) As a result, whenever you roll the ball down the lane, conditioner (oil) from the lane's surface will be picked up off the lane (that's why you see those oil rings around the ball after you throw it), and some of that oil will soak down into the pores on the ball's surface. Over time, enough of that oil becomes absorbed into the ball and the ball simply becomes too slippery on its surface (because it's covered in oil) to be able to generate much friction on the lane (which is what causes hook). All ball manufacturers recommend cleaning the ball with ball cleaning solution after every bowling session. That's not just a gimmick to get you to buy cleaning solution (you can make your own--look around online for the better recipes); it's to enable you to extend the life of your bowling ball. But even with regular cleaning, all reactive resin balls require that you occasionally get them "deep cleaned," or as I call it, "de-oilled." The easiest (though most expensive) way to do this is to take the ball to your pro shop. They'll keep it overnight and put it in an oven or a solution of hot, soapy water. Or you can leave it in your trunk all day on a hot, summer day, and when you come out, the ball will be covered in oily goop. Wipe it off with an alcohol-based solution of some kind and that'll solve part of the problem. But realistically, the best way to fix this problem is to (a.) get a ball spinner and take the surface of the ball down to about 360 or 500 grit to open up the pores on the surface of the ball, (b.) depending on the ball manufacturer's recommendation, either soak the ball in hot, soapy (Dawn dish soap is ideal for this) water (Storm recommends this on their bowling balls) OR leave it in a low-heat oven MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR BOWLING BALLS (don't put your ball in the dishwasher or kitchen oven as it'll sit too close to a heating element and could crack). (Brunswick recommends the hot, dry oven method on their balls.) Then, (c.) after it's been through the cleaning step, put the ball back on the ball spinner and return the surface to either its factory specs or your desired grit level. This is the most effective method of restoring a ball to as close to its original "hookability" as is possible. I have a ball spinner and know how to do this on my own equipment, so I do it all the time. But if you don't have a ball spinner or are just not comfortable making such changes to your equipment, I strongly recommend taking it into your pro shop and letting them do it. Tell 'em you want the ball completely resurfaced, deep cleaned, and restored to its original factory specs and you'll see a discernible difference in the ball's performance.
BrownswickBowling how much would it cost if I bring it to the proshop
You'll have to ask your pro shop what they charge, and specifically what they do for that amount. But I would guess it might run somewhere in the $35 range.
BrownswickBowling I'm sorry that i am asking so many questions But is there a ball that would last longer. Like have a good performance for a longer amount of time.
There really isn't. Reactive resin bowling balls all require this kind of treatment to extract the oil from the pores of the cover stock. Depending on how much you bowl, once a year might be enough (if you only bowl, say 3 games every week or two) or you might need to do it once every couple of months (if you bowl 50-100 games each week like some of us have been known to do). It all depends on your habits. That said, you could always go to throwing a straight urethane ball (like the Storm Pitch Black, Pitch Blue or the Hammer Black Urethane). The problem with these urethane balls is that unless you have a pretty high rev rate, you're not going to get a lot of ball motion out of them. That's what makes reactive balls so special. Urethane doesn't have the same pores that soak up oil the way reactive balls do. But regardless, you'll decrease the number of times per year you need to take the ball in to have it deep cleaned if you'll just get into the habit of wiping the oil rings off EVERY SINGLE TIME you get up to bowl, and clean the ball with a cleaning solution after EVERY SINGLE TIME you finish bowling and head home from the bowling center. (Better to do it with one of these shammys they now sell instead of a towel. The shammys seem to do a better job of lifting the oil off the ball.) The more diligent you are about maintaining your equipment, the longer it will maintain its performance characteristics. That said, all bowling balls tend to get something called "ball shine" after, really, just a few games out of the box. "Ball shine" is where a dull ball will start to gain a bit of shininess to its cover. That can be easily fixed with an abralon pad. (And abralon pads are cheap. I buy 'em 5 or 6 to a box...in all grits...for about $17 on eBay.) But I would recommend consulting with a pro shop operator before you start sanding your bowling balls. You first kinda want to know what you're doing. (And remember, you can't do it in the middle of competition -- that's against USBC rules.)
Do u guys have wood or synthetic lanes?
They're synthetics. Brunswick Pro Lanes.
Logan is wearing a Bayern Munich Jersey ... gooood guy :) greetings from Munich
Just watching some old vids so I don’t get sad that u quit
I never said I quit.
BrownswickBowling ok my bad, so does that mean u will still make vids????
Motiv Bowling - Yes.
How much pound is Logan’s bowling?
Logan great bowler I might come down there one day and bowl you I live in southcarolina and I'm 12
Hey Randy, I've been looking into taking bowling lessons, was just trying to see if you had any contact info. So we can talk.
MannY27V - Brownswick.com
who was the killer shot maker on your left side of the lanes? he never stopped striking! For example 19:05 ?
LuchoVena - That's Nick. He's on a couple of our later shows. Check out 1/28 and 2/4.
2:31 that’s spicy
what ball does christian use the yellow one
That's a DV8 Misfit. 15"
BrownswickBowling .thank you very much and keep up the good work
I love how he was talking about himself calling him he
The old guy is pro material. Logan will have those big happy Gilmore checks!
As mind boggling as it may be, "the old guy" actually *was* PBA for about five years back in the late '70s/early '80s, and I don't mind saying had a pretty good record at cashing (over half the events I bowled in). But they were few in number. Bowling on the pro tour was never a career option for me, as I already had a successful career in broadcasting. Bowling was more of an outlet for me to satisfy my competitive jones. It was fun while it lasted. In recent years, after I got back into it (albeit at a decidedly less professional status), I won 13 tournaments (small ones, but each one had some good players in it) over about a two-year period before I blew out my ankle.
Your voice seemed really familiar your doing a wonderful job these kids are going to look back with some wonderful loving memories. This is something to really b proud of. I remember the guy that helped me when I was younger Tom brown he threw a lefty ball with right hand I think he only used a Brunswick Xs was white he’d always gimme his keys to his truck I’d go get his big old checks and just marvel. Those big checks didn’t have to say much the power can b all in the size! I’d have been great if I’d not fell victim to a national epidemic. That’s all I have to say about that!
Thought we weren't getting another broadcast until 2017?
Yes, that's what I thought, too. But when Megan showed up unexpectedly this past Saturday (home from college for the holidays) and bowled as a pacer with some of our juniors, and then wanted to stay and bowl with us afterwards (she's been watching these Prodigy Bowlers Tour shows), well, we just had to bowl with her. And I wouldn't have even thought of doing so without filming it. Megan grew up in our junior leagues, and it was great to see her again. As you will see, she put on quite a show.
BrownswickBowling Well, I'm not complaining. Great video as always
BrownswickBowling Great Video thumbs up
Blake Bapisteller - Thanks Blake.
BrownswickBowling I like Christian,s bowling ball attic how he switched his bowling my name is Jacob
25:42 😂😂
great bowlng videos
Kid on lane 38 reminds me of EJ Tackett
The guy on 38 is really good who is he?
Yrnick his name is nick
Brownswick bowling can i have info for the youth groups
Carter - What do you want to know?
BrownswickBowling I would love to join you guys when you come by kentucky
Carter - What makes you think we’re coming to Kentucky?
BrownswickBowling where are you at?... if you travel it will allow more people join and you can make it a big tournament
BrownswickBowling that was rude af
I like the part when the ball hits the pins
42:14 that man really left him hanging
LOFO FTW!
What ball is logan using?
Re: bowling a Dutch 200...I figure combined I've bowled between 45,000-50,000 games in my life and never had one.
Are there any two handed prodigy bowlers I can watch? My one handed two finger hook sucks and am trying to improve my two hands since I get much more speed and revs with it.
/Kuro/ - Tyrell, Joshua and CJ appeared on a few episodes.
wow, nice Games
And i like that Shirt from Logan ( i am German and Bayern Fan)
What bowling alley is this ?
It tells you in the first few seconds of the video. Like at :00:16.
BrownswickBowling ok thanks
What ball is Logan using at 13:26
Good god, it looks like those pins weigh only 1 pound, I've never seen pins fall that easily.
They're normal regulation weight pins. Not only that, but they're fairly new, having just been installed a few months ago.
Christian looks like the only one having fun😂
These kids are amazing at bowling
Does this lane 38 guy miss a strike
Omg dude on 38 though
What’s Christain’s strike ball it looks like a 7 pound house ball lol
40 lanes! My home alley only has 18!
Grant Pickard - Back when I lived in Texas, I used to bowl at a bowling center with 60 lanes.
Mine only has 12!
BrownswickBowling I thought mine with 32 was fairly big, well, it is here in Australia.
Grant Pickard mine has 42
My closest one has 10 lanes lol. The I go to 2 for open league which have 30 and 22 lanes
Christian needs to slow down his ball on those 7 pins. I'm left handed so for me it's be ten pins, but what I do is move to the middle (i stand 10-15 boards right usually) and i throw my ball to the second arrow, very slowly but with the same amount of revs. Works magic. Ball goes straight through every pin on the right 3, 6, 9 and 10. Never miss a right side spare with it.
@Brandon P. - The problem with the method you've described is that you may have to make significant adjustments to where you stand and where you throw it at the arrows when you're bowling on certain sport patterns. You can't count on your strike ball behaving the same way when throwing cross lane from one pattern to the next. That's why I strongly urge players to use a spare ball (plastic or urethane) and use the 4th arrow, thereby playing down the center of the lane where the most oil typically sits. You're far less likely to have to adjust more than maybe a board from house to house and pattern to pattern on your spares using this method. I know where to stand to shoot a 7 pin playing it off the 4th arrow, and it won't matter if I'm bowling on a house shot or most any oil pattern you can throw at me, and the angles will be the same regardless. With a strike ball, you might have to move to a whole different part of the approach (or the lane) to play the same spare on different patterns.
BrownswickBowling I definitely feel you there. I only use my method on house patterns because I can easily adjust for the movement of my ball. On sport patterns it's not as reliable. So I'll throw the old trusty T-Zone.
I'm not a big fan of shooting spares one way on a house shot and another way on sport shots. The whole reason for building your spare game around using a spare ball (or figuring out how to throw your strike ball straight) is to take the lane conditions completely out of play, so that your lines and angles used for shooting varioius spares will travel well, and you won't have to recalibrate with every pattern, in every house. It's durable, and will work everywhere. So switching back and forth between the two methods only reduces the number of repetitions a player gets in working on his game. I say, do it one way, and do it the same way every time. The one exception I make is when a spare has a sleeper (double wood), like the 3-6-9 or 2-4-5-8. Then I want to hook into the pins to carry out the back one. But other than that, (and perhaps spares around the 5 pin area, or something like the 1-2-4 where all I need is to throw a Brooklyn strike ball and can just move my feet a few boards right and throw my normal strike ball), those would be exceptions to my "spare ball over the 4th arrow" method -- the one that I teach.
The guy on lane 38 his name is nick
I love bowling
He comforts the turkey
Hey I want to join I live in Lancaster South Carolina can I join it please I want to try it I'll do
Randy is a bowling GOD!
That Weeb - LOL! You misspelled it. A bowling DOG, maybe.
Randy wearing red and green hey x mas colors
Very perceptive of you. That was, indeed, the point.
DAMN I WISH WE HAD INHOUSE TOURNAMENTS AHH
awesome!...Didn't know Megan came through that program...Going to watch her team today in Cincinnati!
pgaloom - Cool! GO MEGAN AND THE FIGHTING LADY BOWLERS!!! (Sorry, I don't know their team name.). LOL!
You put 9 instead of 8 in game 2 frame 3
Yes, we know.
they're bad except for logan and randy
C'mon man even great bowlers can have sub-par games(Even though I don't think any of them had bad games). Christian had a 299 a while back, that's a really talented bowler.
Blake Fries heck I had a string of weeks where I would shoot at least a 170 average and one 200 weekly and in between those I averaged 140. We all have bad weeks- I might not be as talented as these kids but I still have good and bad weeks relative to my average.
cnn7 - Actually Christian shot 288.
Blake Fries better than you just like me