Tip, come up with a quick covering for the bottom windows when u try to get a snakes in their tubes. Something u can prickly put up and take down in one go. Less for the snake to be curious about.
We don't use tongs on our animals directly. We use hooks to lift and guide them, hopefully without scaring them, and for extraction Jim prefers his method because he can feel exactly where he's holding them and how much pressure he's using.
ik u guys have been using this tube method for a while, but i think sitting there trying to get the snake to go into the tube increases the risk of getting tagged. U should look into the method the australian reptile zoo does to pin their elapids. Idk just a suggestion or would like to hear your thoughts. They said the method they do decreased the risk of everyone getting bit dramatically and it seems very safe.
We've seen their method with taipans and brown snakes, but I've never seen it done with mambas. It's true that the risk increases the longer the keeper interacts with the snake, but Jim is most comfortable and practiced with this method. I would be interested in their thoughts of using the pinning disc on mambas, because I wonder about the added challenge of mambas being more adept at climbing tools.
@@kyreptilezoo surely theres gotta be a safer way to milk these snakes than with your bare hands? Why not at least wear gloves ect? Or just try to come up with an entirely new way to do it?
Gloves would limit Jim's dexterity and ability to feel the movement of the snake's head, and they would also have weak points along the seams of the fabric. People have developed and sharing venomous handling techniques over the years, but for Jim, he has developed his method over 48 years, and there would be a risk to try to do something completely new.
Would just putting the tube and wood pieces next to a plain white sheet of board that blocks the snake's view into the other snake enclosures and blocks seeing their own reflection in the glass help calm it and focus its attention onto the darker wood and tube opening? Limit the distractions.
We have considered covering the windows to the other enclosures. It's tough when they're already on alert from being hooked out. We appreciate the suggestion though!
very cool vid there n thank you for it , is there anywhere in the u.s. that owns indian cobra anti-venom ???????, my work buddy has a buddy that owns one n i am just curious about that , i love your vids n i am best friends with jason "the snake man" arnold from durban province in south africa n mirza md arif /naag lok from india as well , they are super cool guys n snake catchers as well , thanks > tom !
The only places in the us with that antivenom are zoos that carry it for the safety of their staff. Individuals can get it if they have the license to purchase non FDA medications like antivenom.
Could you not use a different way to pin the snake. I know a place in Australia that use like a big clear circle to pin the head. It just seems safer to limit the amount of time to pin the snake. Also do you all have any rare hybrid snakes. And do you have any Mangshang vipers. I just was curious because not much is known on the venom from some hybrids such as cane break and eastern diamondback cross.
We've seen the method used in Australia; Jim prefers to do it this way and it's what's more comfortable for him. I've seen their method on taipans but not mambas, and mambas do have the challenge of being able to climb tools quickly. We don't have any rare hybrids, but we do have Mangshan vipers!
Thank you for your reply. I also wanted to ask you if you guys have seen the video of the guy who let's black mamba bite him. I think he was trying to build up an immunity to their venom. I just was curious what your thoughts were on this.
We have seen that. The herpetological and broader scientific community (including us) doesn't condone self-immunization with venom. His body is probably producing antibodies, sure, but the immune system can't react as quickly as it would need to in a bite. Our bodies are used to viruses or bacteria that need to grow, giving our antibodies time to build up in defense. In a bite, all the venom is received at once, and if our bodies tried to release enough antibodies that fast, we could go into shock. They would also be the potential for long term side effects from long term venom exposure. It's just not a worthwhile practice.
@@kyreptilezoo Wrong. Tim Friede can take 2 direct bites from multiple kinds of snakes including the black mamba. He's not using anti-venom. I think being highly resistant to venom is a worthwhile practice in some circumstances.
When taking a direct bite, it’s impossible to know how much venom was injected. The concern is that if a large amount is injected, the immune system would send the person into anaphylaxis trying to fight it, and that is a more acute emergency than snakebite.
Lol, literally every snake expert in the world all say, that the Black Mamba is the most dangerous snake in the world. Not due to its venom, but because they are extremely aggressive and fast! They will attack!
You are a little bit wrong!!! Yes, it is absolutely because of the venom and aggressive behavior!!! The Black Mamba venom acts faster than any other snake against humans!!! 20 minutes you can die, and with antivenom people still have a 40 percent chance of dying!!!
I mean they have the fastest acting venom of any reptile, killing an adult human within 15 minutes. They have a very high fatality rate even with antivenin
Many snakes have yellow venom, but mambas have clear or white venom. The components of the venom have an overall smaller molecular weight than those found in other snakes' venom, and this allows it to potentially travel faster in the body.
Jim has been extracting for 48 years. Because we are an educational institution and work with our state's wildlife agency, we are excluded from the state ban on owning injurious animals. Different extractors have different techniques and they do what is most comfortable for them. We also don't like to generalize the behavior of a species too much because each individual can act however it chooses.
Snake venom is used in medical research! There are several FDA approved medications in the US that have come from venom. Snake venom is also the first ingredient needed in the process of creating antivenom.
Btw I love your videos and the commentary
Awesome video. Please keep them coming.
Great video. I love all the mombas!
Awesome video! Thanks for the content!
My small suggestion make it easy to open the doors sliding left or sliding right it makes you to put them in easy way 😊
Tip, come up with a quick covering for the bottom windows when u try to get a snakes in their tubes. Something u can prickly put up and take down in one go. Less for the snake to be curious about.
That's an interesting thought- thanks!
Any reason not to use articulating tongs which have a mechanically closable 'fork' at the end..?
We don't use tongs on our animals directly. We use hooks to lift and guide them, hopefully without scaring them, and for extraction Jim prefers his method because he can feel exactly where he's holding them and how much pressure he's using.
ik u guys have been using this tube method for a while, but i think sitting there trying to get the snake to go into the tube increases the risk of getting tagged. U should look into the method the australian reptile zoo does to pin their elapids. Idk just a suggestion or would like to hear your thoughts. They said the method they do decreased the risk of everyone getting bit dramatically and it seems very safe.
We've seen their method with taipans and brown snakes, but I've never seen it done with mambas. It's true that the risk increases the longer the keeper interacts with the snake, but Jim is most comfortable and practiced with this method. I would be interested in their thoughts of using the pinning disc on mambas, because I wonder about the added challenge of mambas being more adept at climbing tools.
@@kyreptilezoo surely theres gotta be a safer way to milk these snakes than with your bare hands? Why not at least wear gloves ect?
Or just try to come up with an entirely new way to do it?
Gloves would limit Jim's dexterity and ability to feel the movement of the snake's head, and they would also have weak points along the seams of the fabric. People have developed and sharing venomous handling techniques over the years, but for Jim, he has developed his method over 48 years, and there would be a risk to try to do something completely new.
Does a snake ever remember a previous occasion with the tube and not cooperate?
Very exiting. Your videos give a good idea of different behaviour and are not sensation seeking .
Would just putting the tube and wood pieces next to a plain white sheet of board that blocks the snake's view into the other snake enclosures and blocks seeing their own reflection in the glass help calm it and focus its attention onto the darker wood and tube opening? Limit the distractions.
We have considered covering the windows to the other enclosures. It's tough when they're already on alert from being hooked out. We appreciate the suggestion though!
That’s wild.
very cool vid there n thank you for it , is there anywhere in the u.s. that owns indian cobra anti-venom ???????, my work buddy has a buddy that owns one n i am just curious about that , i love your vids n i am best friends with jason "the snake man" arnold from durban province in south africa n mirza md arif /naag lok from india as well , they are super cool guys n snake catchers as well , thanks > tom !
The only places in the us with that antivenom are zoos that carry it for the safety of their staff. Individuals can get it if they have the license to purchase non FDA medications like antivenom.
How often these snake get. Fed and milked ?
They get fed weekly if they're being extracted from regularly, and every other week if they're not.
Is video ke liye thank u for this video
Could you not use a different way to pin the snake. I know a place in Australia that use like a big clear circle to pin the head. It just seems safer to limit the amount of time to pin the snake. Also do you all have any rare hybrid snakes. And do you have any Mangshang vipers. I just was curious because not much is known on the venom from some hybrids such as cane break and eastern diamondback cross.
We've seen the method used in Australia; Jim prefers to do it this way and it's what's more comfortable for him. I've seen their method on taipans but not mambas, and mambas do have the challenge of being able to climb tools quickly. We don't have any rare hybrids, but we do have Mangshan vipers!
Thank you for your reply. I also wanted to ask you if you guys have seen the video of the guy who let's black mamba bite him. I think he was trying to build up an immunity to their venom. I just was curious what your thoughts were on this.
We have seen that. The herpetological and broader scientific community (including us) doesn't condone self-immunization with venom. His body is probably producing antibodies, sure, but the immune system can't react as quickly as it would need to in a bite. Our bodies are used to viruses or bacteria that need to grow, giving our antibodies time to build up in defense. In a bite, all the venom is received at once, and if our bodies tried to release enough antibodies that fast, we could go into shock. They would also be the potential for long term side effects from long term venom exposure. It's just not a worthwhile practice.
@@kyreptilezoo Wrong. Tim Friede can take 2 direct bites from multiple kinds of snakes including the black mamba. He's not using anti-venom. I think being highly resistant to venom is a worthwhile practice in some circumstances.
When taking a direct bite, it’s impossible to know how much venom was injected. The concern is that if a large amount is injected, the immune system would send the person into anaphylaxis trying to fight it, and that is a more acute emergency than snakebite.
Theres no room for error there.
Bro please try all these in spacious room. The room is very conjuated
Both black Mumba and Russell's viper are unpredictable 😟.
One stubborn mamba
Lol, literally every snake expert in the world all say, that the Black Mamba is the most dangerous snake in the world. Not due to its venom, but because they are extremely aggressive and fast! They will attack!
You are a little bit wrong!!! Yes, it is absolutely because of the venom and aggressive behavior!!! The Black Mamba venom acts faster than any other snake against humans!!! 20 minutes you can die, and with antivenom people still have a 40 percent chance of dying!!!
They also have very potent and fast acting venom.
I’m more dangerous snake you encounter overall but them, Eastern brown snake, or any of the Taipans bite you and you’re gonna get the same results.
I mean they have the fastest acting venom of any reptile, killing an adult human within 15 minutes. They have a very high fatality rate even with antivenin
What's the colour of the venom?
Many snakes have yellow venom, but mambas have clear or white venom. The components of the venom have an overall smaller molecular weight than those found in other snakes' venom, and this allows it to potentially travel faster in the body.
@kyreptilezoo Thanks a lot, maybe inland taipen has also clear (transparent) venom 🤔
Damn, how did yall get a venomous license!!
Jim has been extracting for 48 years. Because we are an educational institution and work with our state's wildlife agency, we are excluded from the state ban on owning injurious animals. Different extractors have different techniques and they do what is most comfortable for them. We also don't like to generalize the behavior of a species too much because each individual can act however it chooses.
Very dangerous
Why would you want to extract venom?
Snake venom is used in medical research! There are several FDA approved medications in the US that have come from venom. Snake venom is also the first ingredient needed in the process of creating antivenom.
Lol, man yall are gonna screw around and get bit! Better head the advice the other fella gave about watching how the Aussies do it!
Pin his head down!
I prefer when the woman talks over the video