Rock's Best Supergroup was from Argentina - "Serú Girán"
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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Some vague chapter things:
00:00 Intro
02:46 Charly Garcia and the start of Seru Giran
06:45 First album
11:03 Censorship
14:06 More stuff idk how to divide it up
Honestly i hate rock music but Serú Girán's music I hate even more.
I still think about this comment lol you get the pin
lmao pin of shame@@ShoesInTheDryer
No way
Based
It's pure envy🫥
It’s pretty rare to see anglophones talk about rock en español, even tho there’s tons of awesome artists within the genre, so thank you so much for making this video!! Charly Garcia is amazing
Here's the thing. Some anglo found out that making this kind of videos talking about (in this case) argentinian bands, they would get lots of views of... Argentinians!! So basically, 32k views already, that I'm pretty sure 31k were Argentinians viewers.
It's not that they're culturizing the rest of the world with our Argentinian music, it's just us watching some yankee talking about us...
@@papadopolous Pero los grupos que nosotros llegamos a conocer también es por el éxito (views) que generan en sus países. No tiene nada de malo. Posiblemente la diferencia es que Serú Girán ya es un producto recontra testeado y chequeado.
@@papadopolousThis guy did an amazing job and deserves all my respect. If the only reason to do this is views, good for him. The analysis is very precise and interesting, and he got all the information correct, coming from a very different culture, and having rock coming from his culture.
@@XtianHRodriguezSorry, no quiero parecer hater, el video es bueno y dinámico. Solo digo q esos views son todos nuestros. Es como q nos fascina ver un ingles/estaunidense hablando sobre nuestra cultura. Y en definitiva, nosotros somos el target de este tipo de videos.
y si a mi tambien me emociona harto mirar gente q no es hispanoablante hablar de nuestra musica
_"While they might be called the argentinian Beatles, I still haven't seen an english Serú Girán"_
Omfg, that ending phrase is so beautiful and portrays so well what many of us think about Serú.
Brilliant video man. Thanks in name of all us argentinians who enjoy this kind of Rock and feel that they're unfairly underrated.
brillante
Cream is better than Seru Giran
@@mariabelen7929yeah yeah...ok
except they have fucking genesis
@@mariabelen7929Estrecha
Every video of Argentinians I see, I click. It's amazing discovering stuff from their culture and it always gets better and better. Definitely a top level country, GOAT. Also one of the most beautiful. I'd love to visit Patagonia again sometime. Greetings from Argentina
Jajajajaj lpm
i recommend you the youtube channel "luciérnaga patagónica" that shows the southernmost city of this world (located in patagonia)
Jajajajaja
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Oh fun fact, in Argentina July 11th is Drummers Day after Oscar Moro, thats how important he was.
am glad that little by little, the work of charly garcia is becoming known in the world. It's a treasure waiting to be discovered
it is not just charly
Por favor... lloren
tbh yall lucky that will not understand the 80% of random shi charly have said while he got older;-,
Argentine rock is top level, a jewel mostly undiscovered by the mainstream Anglo music world simply because it was in Spanish and in Argentina. If not, it would be considered at the level of the gods of rock.
lo q hubiese sido charly si nacía en inglaterra o estados unidos!!! me atrevo a decir q tranquilamente a escala mundial lo considerarían al nivel de freddy mercury
Arco Iris comes to mind for me. One of the best prog rock bands ever. Bubu too.
Sí absoluto.
@@nehuencontreras6395No hubiese sido Charly, pero sí, entiendo lo que decís hubiese sido muy famoso. Igual, para mí Charly o Spinetta están muy, muy por encima de casi todo el rock anglo, excepto quizá, Frank Zappa o Beefheart. Saludos.
"I still havent seen an english seru giran"... that must be the greatest frase i've heard about an argentinian band, and they diserve it. Thank you for listening to our music, you have a lot to choose from ❤
I recommend Transatlantic, a pretty awesome program rock supergropu
An interesting tibdit about "La grasa de las capitales": the album cover is meant to look like a extremely well known paparazzi magazine in Argentina. Charly was insanely popular after Sui Generis broke up, and with the release of La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros's and the first Serú Girán albums, fans and the press were a bit confused by his new artistic direction. Mainstream media started critizing him pretty harshly, with Revista Gente (literally translates to People Magazine) publishing an article titled "Charly García: ¿Ídolo o qué?" ("Charly García: Idol or what?") in which they talked about his declining popularity and suggested he was losing a step and would soon be forgotten.
That's why they included that exact sentence in the album's cover, among other fabricated articles refering to each band member. That's why the song also includes the lyrics "Gente revista, gente careta, la grasa inunda cual fugazetta", which would translate as "Magazine people, fake people, fat overflows like a fugazzeta" (with "fugazzeta" being a kind of greasy pizza with plenty of cheese and onion and "careta" used as slang for poser or fake), which talks both about people who read dumb magazines but can also be interpreted as "People Magazine, fake people...", refering to the actual magazine that published the article. That was the band's way of giving the middle finger to the press that doubted them.
I absolutely love Charly and most of his projects. I particularly love Serú and La Máquina, and would suggest to anyone interested in giving them a listen.
Era la revista d “pelo”, no?
Never heard of this band before, but here I am 1 week later. Pure gold.
happy that u discovered them. it's a one way trip
I recommend the albums "artaud" (it is by Spinetta but for contat reasons it is in the name of Pescado Ravioso) and "El Jardin de los Presentes" (by Spinetta in the band Invisible), and the discography of the god of music Charly Garcia solist from the beginning starting with "clics modernos" and "piano bar" , you will enjoy it a lot
I'm from Argentina and been a fan of your channel for a while now. So I'm super stoked and gladly surprised to see this video. Loved it. Seru Girán was so important for me as a music fan. I remember going to school early in the morning and listening to a local pirate radio with my cellphone and they would play Eiti Leda every single morning. One of the best bass solos in history. Anyways, I hate to be THAT guy who comes begging for videos, but Charly definitely deserves his own video.
yeah it would be awesome if he covers charly! saludos!
Great video! I'm brazilian and i don't think argentinian music is recognized as much as it should around here, even though we're neighbors, the language barrier kept us apart, which is a shame. I genuinely think guys like Charly Garcia, Luis Alberto Spinetta and Gustavo Cerati would have been regarded as high as Lennon/ McCartney/ Dylan/ Bowie if they were born in an English speaking country. Would love to see more of your insights on their music, as you're kind of an outsider like me. Spinetta is my favorite and an absolute hero of mine, would recommend you to check out Almendra's debut, El Jardín de los Presentes ( by Invisible) and Kamikaze, i think these greatly display his genius. Keep up the great work!!
Serú was formed in Brasil. Charly was living there. I always wondered what could have happened if they stayed lá.
Might come the day when we finally join forces.
El Jardín y Kamikaze son los mejores discos de la vida del Flaco.
En cierta forma nosotros pensamos lo mismo de la música de Brasil. Tengo no menos de 30 brasileños entre mis artistas /bandas favoritos, acá sueñe gustar mucho gran parte de lo que se hace allá.
El sentimiento es mutuo amigo. Nosotros también amamos a sus músicos y poetas Caetano, Gilberto Gil, Joao Bosco, Tom Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Vinicius de Moraes, Renato Russo, Hermeto Pascoal, Marcos Valle, Djavan, y tantos más. Ed Motta en particular es un músico brasilero que valora mucho la obra de Spinetta.
Este no es un problema de idioma por qué la música Yanqui o inglesa la consumen los dos... colonialismo cultural con gran capital frente a música popular latinoamericana...
Investigate about Luis Alberto Spinetta, he was the other big man in our rock scene in those years. A very sensitive man, he made very poetic and complex music
Like a lot of people have already said, it's very unusual (and a little bit shocking) to hear someone outside not only Argentina, but the Latin American cultural sphere talk about Serú Girán, much less giving them this much praise. Still, this was an incredible video. I'm glad to see how much you enjoy their music, and I hope this will lead more people around the world to discover the untapped wealth of Argetinian popular music.
PD: the ninth floor, he jumped from the ninth floor...
Clarification: he jumped into a pool, which was his intention, and survived. Based on what I’ve just heard, and mentioned to clarify future expectations.
honestly as a welsh girl who is obsessed with rock nacional this video has made my day possibly even my week lol
Argentina has music that should be better known outside of its native language. Iconic albums like Clics Modernos, Bocanada or Artaud, great artists like Gustavo Cerati, Charly Garcia, Spinetta and the bands where they participated, Soda Stereo and their peculiar MTV Unplugged that is not Unplugged, etc. Gracias totales for making this video.
hello, you should also listen to Pappo Blues (with guitarist Pappo Napolitano), Sumo, Patricio Rey y sus Redonditos de Ricota, Fito Paez, Viejas Locas or Intoxicados, Attaque77 And Babasónicos. They are the greatest exponents for Argentinian Rock
22:04
peperina is actually an album that is directed to a girl who worked in a publishing house, who severely criticized SeruGiran, which is why Charlie decides to release this album with the name "peperina" and a song with the same name, too. There is a movie about the already well-known peperina, which talks about an obsessed fan
As Argentinians we have the biggest privilege to enjoy British and American Rock but also our own Rock Nacional or Argentinian Rock, I'm glad to see English Speaking People discovering our Musical Treasures, I can assure you that Charly García and Spinetta are up to the level of someone like Paul McCartney or even higher...Enjoy it!
"while they're called the Argentinian Beatles, I still haven't seen an English Seru Giran" the most epic ending! Thank you for this video. Aguante Seru!!!
Hey man, as an argentinian let me tell you, this is a really well documented and insighful video. Not being a spanish speaker I can´t imagine how hard it was to gather all the information and footage but you really nailed it. Also, your pronunciation is just fine, never mind.
A few bits: Pedro Aznar´s playing was very influenced by Jaco Pastorius so there you go with the flash - fast sixteenth note funk, the mellow lines and the fretless bass. He´s still around and has tons of stuff to check out if you dig his playing (to any bass player aroud, you should). He has a nice way to fusion argentinian folkloric music with pop, jazz, rock which I find really accesible if you haven´t heard any of it beforehand. His first solo album from 1982 is really illustrative of where his influences came from (he also played all the instruments and sang!).
As for Charly, well, he is one our rock and roll star and superhero. I asume by this that you are well versed into his craft, but to anyone out there, don´t sleep in his 80's records. He had a crazy run, releasing one legendary album after another (Parte de la Religión, Clics Modernos, Piano Bar, the list goes on). The combination between complexity, melodic taste, intelligent lyrics and pop sensibility is out of the chart. He does deserve his own video (and maybe a few lol).
If you are willing to go on a beautiful, deep rabbit hole, you should check out Luis Alberto Spinetta. He stands along with Charly in the Mount Rushmore of Argentinian Rock, and as Charly he had lots of bands, periods and styles, but with a nice surreal touch. I´m sure you´ll enjoy it.
As much as I adore Charly, El Flaco Spinetta was on a whole different level. Not fair to compare him to anyone, I know.
I only wanted to highlight that anyone who is even slightly interested in progressive music should listen to “El Jardín de los Presentes” by his band Invisible, and “Artaud” by his “band” Pescado Rabioso. It’s indeed a beautiful rabbit hole. Once you’re deep into it you can explore Spinetta Jade!
hola! a que disco de pedro te referis del 82? crei que tango del 86 era su primer disco solista. gracias!!
Charly was the first ones to bring synthesizers down here and play with them, and he was having all the fun in the world with them and trying them out along the keyboards. The band was down to play along, you can feel them obviously enjoying too!
Charly is SO eccentric because he knows he is one of the best around, he has a huge ego and why shouldn't he? He has perfect pitch, studied music since a kid, had been in almost every music genre he was interested in and was an important part of 4 bands that absolutely made a revolution in Argentinean and Latin American rock. He knows he is THE Charly Garcia. LOL
Also he jumped to a pool from the 9th floor because a cop was at his door, and he just went "not my fault you didn't finish school" and JUMPED! Then he went and made a song about it, the same day. I just want people to know that he can have his faults but Charly is just SO ridiculously awesome, I think we argentineans can forgive he has the giant ego of a zeppelin.
As a Brazilian, I've been awfully negligent towards Latin American music for most of my life, and I've been trying to fix that lately. Serú Girán has impressed me greatly, and this video does a good job to encourage me to get into their stuff even more.
Also, just a teensy little correction: Pedro Aznar did not play bass for Pat Metheny Group. Steve Rodby was the bass player, and Pedro played multiple instruments (guitar, percussion, sax, melodica, etc.) and also sang. His voice became a super memorable element of the albums he played on (First Circle and Letter from Home), and I recommend Dream of the Return as a display of how powerful his singing is. Letter from Home is in fact my favourite PMG album.
como argentino me paso lo mismo , hace poco conoci a rita lee de brazil y es genial me encanto
Same, same!! I think it might be the prejudice to local art ingrained in us. Lately I've been getting into many bands and singers from all over in Latin America and we seriously have nothing to envy about other countries' music, we have gold here I tell you! It's about appreciating and getting to know the artists
Brasil is, after all, an empire... A friend who was there for a while told me brazilians don't know (or actually care, really) that a lot of brazilian songs are actually covers from other countries you just remade locally. The thing is, Brazil is so huge, it's a whole world for the people living there, so many times (as with the US), you don't really mentally register other countries. For us argentinians, always worried about how we look to others, that's really weird.
I'm not being hyperbolic here, Charly García is one of the best music composers in world's history, period.
Charly getting unveil by the world is absolutely mad!
Es la primero que veo del canal , la verdad que sorprendido por el nivel de información que consiguieron e hicieron un gran video . Gracias , seru giran debería escucharse en todo el mundo ❤., la carrera solista de charly es brillante , escuchen sus discos, no tiene desperdicio .saludos
Escribí bien mono
Absolutamente de acuerdo.
Comparto lo del excelente vídeo que han logrado acerca de esa tremenda banda que fue Serú Girán, lamentablemente no comparto lo de que la discografía de Charly no tiene desperdicio, Lo banco hasta "La hija de la lágrima" (a duras penas), luego su mente destruida por los excesos de drogas y alcohol lo condenaron a ser una sombra de lo que fue, y miren que lo quiero mucho a Charly.
The debut is out of this world. The problem is that many fans did not recognize the genius that was hitting them, and it eventually grew on them. The next three albums are also fantastic and varied in styles. I hope more music fans in the U.S. are exposed to these treasures! Excellent job explaining this phenomenon!
Argentina te agradece este video. Que te hayas tomado el tiempo de investigar en nuestra historia politica para poder darle contexto a esta INCREDIBLE banda es algo genial.
Thanks for this video! I’ve been learning Spanish and listen to almost entirely Spanish language music to help myself practice more. I’ve really loved Spinetta’s stuff and have been looking heavily into Argentinian rock now. It’s amazing how much great stuff is out there that most English speakers just never listen to!
Great to read your comment and welcome to rock en español (and particulary the rock nacional argentino) !!, if you are interested, I recommend you to listen Argentine groups (some of them pop/rock, progressive, hard rock, heavy metal, reaggae): Soda Stereo, Virus (only with Federico Moura as a frontman in the 80's), Los Enanitos Verdes, Los Fabulosos Cadillacs, Vox Dei, Rata Blanca, Friccion, GIT, Sumo, Los Abuelos de la Nada, Patricio Rey y los Redonditos de Ricota, Los Rodriguez, Pappo, Arco Iris, Gustavo Santaolalla, Don Cornelio y la Zona, Divididos, Gustavo Cerati, Charly Garcia, La Portuaria, Spinetta, Almendra, Manal, Zas/Miguel Mateos, Andres Calamaro, Fito Paez, Los Pericos, La Zimbabwe, Horcas, Metropolis, La Sobrecarga, Horcas, Siamés, 1915, Bandalos Chinos, Vilma Palma. As you can see Argentine "rock" genre scene is extremely diverse but I garantise you will be happy listening to them. Blessings !!!!!
@@mharg6408wow, this is amazing, thank you so much for all of the recommendations! Voy a añadir esos a mi playlist :)
@@mharg6408 Cómo te atrevés a excluir a Sig Ragga, Octafonic, Ratones Paranoicos, Surfistas del Sistema, Las Pelotas, Bersuit, Vudú, Maxi Trusso, Poncho, 42 Decibel
I am Argentinian and I am a big fan of Charly García and I am grateful that the English community recognizes his music
The Argentines who made me touch the sky with my hands, I am happy to see that their talent is recognized in other parts of the world. Thank you very much for making this video!
This one was weird to write for whatever reason. There's obviously a lot more that could be here but there were 2 particular things that I wanted to mention but couldn't fit organically.
1) When they took breaks from making their first album, they actually made an entire other pretty good album with their producer under the name Billy Bond and the Jets. So that's a neat flex.
2) Can someone explain to me why the track order for La Grasa de las Capitales seems inconsistent? The order that you see on like spotify and stuff seems like the most common but once in a while I would see tracks 7 and 8 switched or a lot of the middle songs rearranged and it just confuses me I don't know why this would be. Like did any reissues have the band change the order just because they wanted to, or maybe they needed to change it when it was on cassette as opposed to vinyl due to how much could fit on one side? idk
Edit: Okay also I have to add now, so I didn't say what floor Charly jumped from just because I didn't think it was an important detail, but now I'm especially glad I didn't because in response people have commented differently saying it was the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th floor, and that's funny. So let's make it more confusing; I say he jumped from the 13th floor!
Maybe because in 2020 Sony made a remastered version of Seru Giran's discography and changed the order, they usually alter the original track list or put in a weird fade-out, i recommend to hear the new version it's sounds better. Great video.
I always thought they'd stoped playing because Oscar Moro died...
@@AzuBou they stoped cause Charly had a hell of a solo career
Regarding the order of songs, I think when they were edited in CD version in the early 90's the label that hold the rights to it (the band had lost them due to some legal shenanigans, as it happened to the Beatles) did whatever they wanted to and changed the order of the songs (the same thing happened with their first album) and the album cover. This happened with a lot of the early records of Argentinian rock. Later on, a couple of years ago, Pedro worked in some remastered versions of their albums and the original order was restored.
@@mumbledg The track listing on the 2020 vinyl remaster still has the incorrect track listing. Viernes 3 am was original the 7th song (the 2nd song on Side B); the second pressing (early 80s) had the correct order, too, but the 3rd pressing (mid to late 80s) is where it changed and has remained that way since, even on the 2020 remaster that Pedro put together.
The Argentine rock of the 70s and 80s was something amazing, I am convinced that after the USA and the UK in terms of musical quality of the artists and development of the genre, it ranks third without a doubt.
As a high schooler who wants to start a jazz band even though I can’t play instruments, I really love all your videos and they really help me get a grasp on like music in general history wise and just how it is being a band. Great Video too
Start that band
It's pretty impressive to see a non-native spanish speaker doing such a complete video about an argentinian band. I think you really did a great job putting all the clips and information. I'm glad you did this, people don't know how great they are for us and how important is for Argentina's rock music history. Thanks 🤍
Man, this channel is gold. First I was hooked by your intro to Japanese music, which I'm still exploring. And now you brilliantly cover a band I grew up listenting to, being myself from Argentina. Interesting to know that "symphonic rock" is not used in English. Who knows how it became such a standard label in the Spanish-speaking world, but it's definitely the description we've historically used for bands like Yes or ELP. You have probably checked this yourself, but if you go to the Wikipedia entry for "rock sinfónico" and then click for the English version of the entry, you end up in the "Progressive rock" entry. (We also use "rock progresivo" in Spanish, they are not the same.) I'm not sure about Charly García being such a pioneer in the use of multiple keyboards; someone like Rick Wakeman was already playing live surrounded by several keyboards in the early '70s. One little detail about Aznar is that when he joined the Pat Metheny Group it was not to play the bass (which he never did with Pat) but to sing and play percussion, which talks about his incredible versatility. As others have said, if you feel like exploring more of the Argentinian rock scene, definitely pay attention to Luis Alberto Spinetta, another genius singer-songwriter. As far as I know, among many other things he did, he was the first to bring jazz sonorities into rock, which he did with his band Spinetta Jade in the early '80s (his previous band Invisible already had some jazzy elements as well). While some jazz musicians had already experimented with rock sounds in their music (a move famously started by Miles Davis and then followed by his jazz-rock descendants Weather Report, Return to Forever or Mahavishnu) no rock musician I'm aware of did it before Spinetta; someone like Sting made a similar move several years later. Congrats on all the hard work and keep the videos coming!
The site Progarchives labels this progressive rock subgenre as Symphonic Prog so its not far off.
@@87crimson Good to know. Thanks.
Symphonic Rock es un subgénero de Progressive Rock, también en inglés. Simplemente el lo desconoce. En Argentina se usa Rock Sinfónico como casi sinónimo de Progresivo porque fue casi el único subgénero del progresivo que se hizo acá.
Argentinian dude here, thank you so much for making this video, is weird to see any person from the english speaking community talking about Argentinian Rock, less about a band like Seru Giran, they talk more about bands like Soda Stereo (Which is great too), and I'm glad for it because Seru Giran deserves it, these four genius even risked their lives doing this music, I'm saying this because around that time in the brother country Chile the dictatorship there killed famous songwriter Victor Jara, and in Argentina some musicians had to go into exile to another countries in order to protect their lives or from their families during dictatorship, Seru Giran is brave for staying in the country and keep doing this kind of music. I even remember Charly Garcia once said "I kicked Videla's butt" on a recent concert. (Videla was the "president" during the first years of the dictatorship in Argentina 1976 - 1978)
omg i get SO HAPPY when i find videos about rock nacional in english. i was listening to peperina last night thinking about how amazing it is and then this video popped up. as a welsh girl with a special interest in rock nacional since i first heard 'bajan' several years ago, i've literally found one person ever in real life who knew about charly, flaco, cerati etc. i am constantly telling people to listen to these AMAZING artists. (i nearly had a heart attack when i met some argentine people on holiday, i was ready to talk about spinetta for 6 hours, but it turned out they didn't like rock music LMAO). i'm glowing reading the comments
Just a related thought: A Spinetta video would be three times the length of this
Lovely video!! Serú Girán is a gem of music, I’m from the US and wished more people would listen to them despite the language barrier. Amazing musicians and wonderful music :)
Im Argentinian, and I love that you made a video on Seru. Please listen to charly garcia's discography which is also excellent!
Also you should listen to Artaud and El Jardin De Los Presentes, which are both really good albums by Luis Alberto Spinetta who is considered with Charly to be the best Argentinian musicians.
Sos algo del pato? P
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@@jpm199 jajajajaa soy pariente muy lejano, pero tengo la camiseta firmada
I was surprised that when you spoke about Charly's ego, you didn't tell about the time he threatened Björk in a bar with a knife, broke her glass with it, saying that she's got nothing on him. What a mad man lol
I wake up -> There is another Coronación De Gloria -> I wake up -> There is another Coronación De Gloria -> I wake up -> There is another Coronación De Gloria -> I wake up -> There is another Coronación De Gloria -> I wake up -> There is another Coronación De Gloria...
I'm amazed about how you have synthezised argentinean history and argentinean rock history, and reviewed so thoroughly not only Serú Girán but so many other bands' discography. Your exposition about the history and music of the band is probably the best I've ever heard about a band which has been reviewed thousands of times troughout the last three decades. And you alsa hear it with sensitive, unprejudiced ears.
Seminare is BTW sort of a rock anthem here in Argentina.
I'm not a big rock fan, but man, you deserve a new follower. Thanks for this.
I was at the '92 recital at the River Plate stadium. It was the only recital that I experienced a magical moment. In the field full of people standing and crowded together, at one point during the recital the entire audience sat down on the floor to continue listening. All at the same time. It was an incredible recital.
argentina mentioned let's goooo
Somebody give this guy price. I can't believe that an American gave the recognition that Seru deserves. Speechless and in tears. Thank you.
excellent video, Seru Giran is the best Argentine group, despite having many Rock groups and some like Soda stereo that achieved worldwide fame. If Seru Giran had been a Saxon band, it would be in the Hall of Fame, without a doubt. thanks for the video
Very nice video! Thanks for making this. It's always great when other native English speakers come to know and understand the music of those great artists from Argentina.
I'll just note that I guess you misspoke when mentioning that the farewell concert for Sui Generis was in 1976; it was on the 5th of September, 1975, and there were actually two concerts in the one night as the show sold out so fast that they decided to do a second one. Charly jumping from the 9th floor was definitely for a reason - he'd had some trouble in the city he was in (Mendoza) and the police were after him. He went onto the balcony, used some balloons to see which way the wind was blowing, then took a fucking insane leap of faith and somehow didn't even hurt himself in the splash (probably because he was far from sober). Also, The English version of Peperina hasn't been released but the cassette demo of it does circulate the web. Thanks again and I hope you can make more content about Charly so more people around the world know his art ❤ Greetings from Australia!
BROOOO that last "greetings from australia" really caught me of guard hahaha, i thought u were a fellow argentine with all those little details.. thanks for your support on our music brother!! do you have any australian band/music that you would like to recommend? cheers from buenos aires, argentina :)
@@sergiodetter1417 Soy argentino honorario(? I'd recommend you King Gizzard but you probably already know them haha
@@sergiodetter1417 se estaba guardando lo mejor para el final jajajaja igual que el creador del video que dejo para el final la frase de "no existen los seru giran ingleses"
Watching someone who is not from Latin America give proper recognition to this amazing band is just pure justice. Thank you so much for this.
Hey man. Just to let you know that David Lebon has watched this and really loved the idea of the argentinian Beatles and the english Seru Giran.
He talked about it on an argentinian radio called Urbana Play two days ago, if you wanna check it out!
Great work! Very well documented! It's nice to see Argentinian bands getting the recognition they surely deserve from the rest of the world. A lot of their catalogue is being discovered via reaction videos now.
Just a couple of minor corrections: "Adiós Sui Generis", Sui Generis' farewall shows, was in 1975 not 1976. Also, when Charly and David decided to form a band together, they went to spend some time near the beach in Buzios (Brazil), since Charly was dating a Brazilian girl named Zoca at the time (she was the one who suggested to Charly to leave the guys from La Máquina and start a group with David), and they wrote most of the songs for their first album there. It was then that they decided to get a bass player and a drummer and Charly travelled back to Buenos Aires where he saw Pedro playing in a bar and was immediatly convinced he was the right dude for the job. David didn't know Pedro at all and only met him once both Oscar and Pedro travelled to Brazil. According to Charly, they started jamming as soon as they arrived and David was completely blown off his socks when he saw Pedro play.
22:11 That last line is so epic.
Great analysis, it's really unique to watch an outsider's perspective on Argentinian National Rock, but you did a very good job my friend. Will surely check the rest of your backlog.
Excellent work ! I'll tell you that Charly Garcia jumped from the ninth floor! At that time he was very extravagant and provocative.
Please do an analysis of the greatest band that Argentina had, "Soda Stereo". Take a look and you'll see what I'm talking about!
I'm pretty sure some other argentinian already brought this up but in the 70s there wasn't a war nor the so called "dirty war", nor the "desaparecidos" were only not under the "christian" ideas of the military (+civil+church) dictatorship, people were being persecuted because of their political ideas. This was part of a bigger plan called "Plan Condor" that affected many countries in Latinoamerica (and was orchestrated by the US). Having said that, I loved this video! It randomly showed up in my feed so I jumped to it and I'm very pleased with what I saw here, you have now a new subscriber 😊
How good to see people like you interested in Japanese, Argentine or music from any part of the world. It helps a lot to the universality of culture. great video
thanks for making people from other countries know about this amazing band. MUCHACHOOOOOOOOOOS
I am Argentine, I live in Buenos Aires city. I'm 63, I've been listening to rock (all genres) since 1972. I'm an admirer of the great bands (Yes, Floyd, Zepp, Sabbath, Genesis, Maiden, J. Tull, D.Purple, Stones, Beatles, NMB, BOC, Haken, Metallica, etc.). Charly García is one of the greatest rock musicians in history, without a doubt. And Seru Giran found him and the remaining band members at their peak of talent. I really enjoy that his music is beginning to be known in the world. Is astonishing!
Sos el hermano de Charly
I wake up, another coronación de gloria, I go to sleep, I wake up, another coronación de gloria, I go to sleep, I wak-
Charly and Luis Alberto Spinetta are two of the greatest musicians in the world, but they were born in Latin America and musical xenophobia did not allow them to receive the recognition they deserve. I recommend you listen to Spinetta's jazz and progressive rock band "Invisible" perhaps his album "El jardin de los presentes". Thank you for making a video about our music, it's good to know that there are people from other countries who like our rock!
Serú Giran anda Invisible (Spinetta's band) we're two groups that helped me to understand how advanced our music was. Just sublime
It is the very first time that I see someone listen, analyze, and gather information about an Argentinian rock group and get EVERYTHING right. Done with respect, a little bit of humour, and a lot of love for music. We, being so down south and having listened to music in English all our life, do the reverse all the time. We listen and obsess about the Beatles, the Cure, the Smiths but are almost always talked with a condescending tone. As if all our groups are bad versions of English groups. Thanks, you are now an honorary Argentinian.
Man it's surreal for me to think about the fact that so much Spanish rock is unknown outside of our hispano-sphere.
Artists like Charly García, Luis Alberto Spinetta, Los Jaivas, and so many others absolutely marked my life as a teenager.
I know no English rock band that even comes close to the intensity of emotion these guys made me feel.
Some holy grails of Spanish rock you may wanna look up:
Pescado Rabioso
Los Jaivas
Spinetta
Almendra
Sui Generis
Invisible
Pappo
This video is pure gold! I'm just going through Seru Giran's discography and there's so much variety and richness on their songs, I'm completely blown away!
Azafata del tren fantasma - Invisible. All music lovers in the world deserve to listen to this song and trip with its many musical landscapes. It has it all. Invisible was as great as Seru Giran.
thanks you so much for making this video dude!! Im argentinian and i grew up with charly garcia's music and even tho i like a lot of music in english as well, nothing i ever heard has made me feel like argentinian rock does, also because of the historical context of the dictatorship that was less than 50 years ago. Im very happy Seru Giran's amazing music is finally getting some international recognition.
"While they might be called the argentinian Beatles, I still haven't seen an english Serú Girán" FUCK YEAH!!!!!
I am convinced we are connected somehow. First the wrens thing, now posting a band from a completely different genre that I tweeted about like a week ago.
Like brothers, only closer
@@ShoesInTheDryer if you ever do a video on Mega City Four I'll know my house is just bugged.
I'm barely into the video but I just want to say it makes me really happy that other people from the States (or maybe you're canadian) know and listen to Seru Giran. I originally started learning Spanish to talk to some of my older relatives from Puerto Rico who couldn't speak English but as I got into my late teens and early 20s my interest in it was kept up by artists and bands like Soda Stereo (Cerati), Spinetta (and basically anything he was involved in), and Charly Garcia and all of the bands he was involved in too. I always try to show these artists to people I know who like the kind of music they make but don't know that music like it exists outside of the anglosphere
It's good to see that you like Argentine rock. I recommend lesser-known bands but of equal value like "Manal" (their first album), Patricio Rey y sus redonditos de ricota (His album Oktubre), other more modern ones like "Conociendo Rusia" (Their album "Cavildo y juramento" is one of the best I've heard in recent times) and my personal favorite that no one knows yet (hurry up to listen to them) "Cisne elocuente" they continued Spinetta's legacy, and they do it Wonderful! I recommend the album "Leda", in fifty years we will remember it as a treasure. And if you need more Argentine bands just ask, my life is based on Argentine rock, it's in my blood!
@@TatuCarreta thank you for this comment, I’ve heard of Manal and Patricio Rey y Sus Redonditos de ricota but I haven’t heard of the other bands you’ve listed, I’ll be sure to check them out!
I am an Argentinian, and so I think few countries have as many great musicians as us. So I am glad I finally see them getting recognition.
River es locura
Great video! About the use of the term "Symphonic Rock", that's just because in Argentina all rock music at that time was reserved for just a little part of the population (I mean, argentine rock in the 60s and 70s was not in the charts or anything like it), and it came to be known as "Música Progresiva", so any kind of rock was Progressive, hence we had to find a way to distinguish it and then the term "Rock Sinfónico" was born.
Escuchen Clics Modernos! Album tremendo de Charly ♡
Great video! Serú and Invisible are undoubtedly the best prog bands we had in Argentina. Really recommend the latter if you haven't listened to them! it's really interesting how, while both belonged to the "prog world", the approach they had sounded so different. I see Charly representing the more "symphonic, poppy, classically trained pianist" approach to songwriting, while Spinetta's work on Invisible goes into more abstract, psychedelic, "self-taught guitarist who's into crazy philosophy and surrealist poetry" territory. Hope that description made sense lol
Awesome video! I'll add one more little piece. Eiti Leda was originally a song Charly had composed for Sui Generis (under the name "Nena"). That explains why it feels more "Sui Generis-like" than the rest. I think that song has the most beautiful lyrics he has ever written.
Man, actually your pronunciation of "Serú Girán" is totally impeccable.
Man, you should be very proud about this video you've made. Not only because so nicely edited and well-informed, but also because David Lebón himself has watched it (here's the very moment where he quotes your phrase at the end of the video: ua-cam.com/video/3snCaoGlO_U/v-deo.htmlsi=rqY_86Ued9eBubU1&t=777 ). Thank you for taking interest in the music of my country and spreading it! :)
beautiful seeing art from lesser known corners of the world get recognized
The attention to detail you've put here is amazing! Congratulations! Really happy to see this music is enjoyed outside our country.
As others have stated its really nice to see non-spanish speakers talk about bands like seru or generis, latin american rock has so much history that people like charly would have the legendary status of people like kurt cobain or even lennon if they werent restricted to the spanish market (although charly did try again to get into the english market in Como Conseguir Chicas with the idea of writting songs in english, but ended up scrapping it).
If you plan on covering more Argentinian rock history i would 100% love to see a video on Charly's Say No More phase, his entire artistic journey from La Hija De La Lagrima to Kill Gil is absolutely fascinating. The self-destruction of his image to fight and re invent everything people expected of him is just pure genius and shows to the core the kind of person Garcia is.
Thank you for recognizing one of Argentina's greatest band. You completely understood the essence of the band and their sound. You should listen to Pescado Rabioso (you mentioned them in this video) or any of the bands where Luis Alberto Spinetta played. He, along witch Charly Garcia are latin american rock greatest ICONS. Loved this video man, thanks!
I have to recognize the inmense respect that you have for our nation and our language, translating the names of every song, album, etc. Same as you trying to say it as the most correctly possible way. Thanks for the video
Me encantó 😍
Y no lo puedo creer!
Después de tantos años que hoy en día desde países de habla inglesa o de otro idioma que no sea español reconozcan esta gran banda de rock argentina, me emociona hasta las lágrimas. Porque fue, es y será mi banda favorita por siempre ❤❤❤
Gracias infinitas!♾️
That closing sentence man... Wow! It gave me the chills. Awesome narration! Thanks!
I'm not gonna lie here. I'm pleasantly surprised with this video, not only because it's well documentated and reasearched, not only because it's really weird to hear someone from an English speaking country talking about Serú Giran of all things( because for all intents and purposes it is a pretty niche thing to talk about) but because it is so clear how much you like their music that you made this video dedicated to them in the first place.
Claps for you sir, very well done.
Great video! I Hope someday you could also talk about Patricio Rey y sus Redonditos de Ricota, one of the most important bands of Argentina.
Wow man this is an amazing rundown of a really iconic band, great job! Serú Giran made some of my dearest songs ever. Charly García got really eccentric as years went on, a lot of it got to do with his struggles with addiction until he hit rock bottom in like 2007/2008. Gladly, he recovered and been clean since, now he's everyone's happy rockstar grandpa.
As a Latin American rock fan, thanks for spreading the word and showing a bigger audience about the amazing group that Serú Girán is you definitely need to talk about Spinetta and make a video solely about Charly 🥰✨✨
What a great video, I even had goosebumps at the end! Great track choosing, great edition, great narration, great every thing. Kudos on you. This was an absolutely fantastic band practically unknown in English speaking countries.
It is great to know that there are people around the world that recognize our culture! Saludos desde Argentina!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷 (Greetings from Argentina!!)
I do like to add this information: the music from Seru is very popular, you can listen at the radio and many argentinians knows the songs as hymns. I'm telling this because it's not easy to get at those popular standards in the culture with music as this complex. I¡m from Argentina and we are proud of our "Rock nacional" as we say. Thank you for this video, it's outstanding, you put a lot of work!!
This video is an absolute GIFT. I'd also kill for a Spinetta video!
"I still havent seen an english seru giran" Dude, terrific job
BTW the first three solo records Charly released immediately after Seru Giran's first run (Yendo de la cama al living - Clics modernos - Piano bar) are on the same high point as these quality-wise. More on a new wave vein. Worthy of their own video as they are some of the best rock albums ever released in Argentina.
Por favor dime como es que sabes tanto sobre Seru Giran? Estoy realmente sorprendido por el aplio conocimiento que tienes acerca de mi banda favorita de todos los tiempos. La calidad de Seru Giran es comparable a Yes, Génesis, ELP, etc. Pero al cantar en español nunca tuvieron más trascendencia que Sudamérica. La Máquina de hacer pájaros es lo más parecido que he escuchado a Zappa. La inexplicable musica disco (de mala calidad) es una critica a la musica de mala calidad que estaba de moda en ese momento en Argentina. Lo que mas me sorprense de tu video es la relacion, indispensable, del contexto del pais con respecto a las canciones. ¿como puedes saber eso?. Gracias por tu completísimo vídeo. Un abrazo desde Salta, Argentina
Simple: wikipedia
Its easy, Wikipedia and other resources. But sorry to tell you this, ELP, Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Zappa had better music than them. They're definitely great but doesn't comparable to the mighty Prog Rock/Jazz fusion of the West (U.K and U.S)
@@glycineman8657Only Zappa had better music. The rest of the bands you named are pretty mid tbh.
Not only they're great, they dwarf anglo music too. Both Serú Girán and La Máquina de Hacer Pájaros were the best bands in the world when they were active.@@glycineman8657
Thanks for this great video. I recommend you and others who might be discovering the work from this amazing artists to check out the albums Charly García and Pedro Aznar did together: Tango (1986) and Tango 4 (1991). And no, there are no records called Tango 2 or 3
la mejor dupla argenita lejos
Charly Garcia is considered a larger than life icon in Argentina.
For some time now I have seen reactions to Argentine music from English-speaking people, and I realized how lucky we were, because we listened to and enjoyed twice as much music.
Love how you investigated a lot for this and also glad that you enjoyed listening to this band, Serú is one of my favorites bands of all time
It is amazing to discover a Guy thousands of miles away your own country thinking exactly the same way you think... the bomb went much further away then ... you just give it enough time to do the job... Seru Giran was a super band together with the Beatles, Queen and Led Zeppelin ... Great analysis ! We want more !
Thank you so much for this video! Here is a Brazilian, living in Argentina and in love with Argentinian music. I would love to see one of these videos about Luis Alberto Spinetta. A genius with such an avant-garde music. With 31+ albums and so many different bands and incredible solo career, it’s no surprise that Musician’s Day in Argentina is celebrated in his birthday (January 23) ❤
This is great because its clear that you really hear them and like it. There is a lot of english spealers channels who just "reacts" to a song from an Latin American band and suddenly they gains followers from this side of the world. Here is a real analisys, and talking about that, and beside the fact that i'm fan of this four guys, i agree with all that you said, because is really objetive.
Estaría mejor si hubiera gente que no sea argentina viendo el video para que descubran la banda.
We argentinians love to flock around foreigners talking about our country, any aspect of it. But damn, this is not a video trying our sweets or cuisine, or talking about our dialect, or economy or politics or history. This has to be one of the gratest breakdowns of an argentine band I’ve seen, normally foreigners limit themselves to reaction style videos to some song but this is on a whole other level. Thank you for this, great video