Thank you for posting this video ! My Mysa thermostat would turn on, but it wouldn't turn the heater on. I live in Canada and for some reason the wiring in my house was the same setup as yours. I would've never thought to have setup the wires like you did until I saw your video. Thanks !!!
Just for clarification in the US which uses 2-phase, for 240v circuits, both sides are hot. There is no neutral (unless it's a 4 wire setup, which doesn't apply to these heaters). The old switch simply disconnected both sides of the circuit which is the safest as it insures there's no electricity at the heater when off. The smart switch simply disconnects one side of the circuit. There's still power at the heater, but the circuit isn't complete and the heater won't run (just make sure to never jam a fork or other metal device into the heater even when off LOL). Too bad Mysa cheaped out and didn't add another internal switch for both sides. If they did, it would have been a much easier as basically it would have been a wire for wire swap.
So many memories to my first home in Vancouver/Portland area with the Cadet heaters. The history of the area having vast amounts of hydroelectric power available ment such cheap inefficient heaters were still inexpensive to use. On the other hand vast amounts of clean energy.
When ever you work with electricity you first have to check if the thing like outlet or switch has still electricity with voltmeter so you won't be electrocuted
The video above doesn't show an extra safety check, but the manual instructs you to turn your existing old thermostat to maximum heat and wait for 5-10 minutes to see if the heater is still on (even after you turn the breaker off).
@@williameisenberg1999 I just installed 7 of these in my house. Yes, you can change the temperature at the thermostat. Also, you can disable the manual control if you want to.
david green .Thankyou Mr. Green . I,m going to get a couple right now . I got a small cabin love to have it warmed up before I get there ,so this is perfect .... Thanks again ...
Also insulate - insulate - insulate, and make sure the house is well sealed from air penetrations. -- You might be able to get the local power company to give you the electric usage history of the house (typically by month) for the prior couple of years. --- just a thought
I am in the process of installing new base board and my home automation was stuck now i think i got the right device to complete the automation. I want to use homekit goefencing to cut off heating and good night scene to step down the heating 🤓
Long term you would be better to install air/air heat pump(s). Two key benefits - efficiency - around 4kW of heat for 1kW of electricity in on average, plus with reversible units you get aircon for the summer too. You can also get air/water heat pumps to heat your hot water with similar efficiency increases. Later you can dump excess solar sourced electricity into your hot water tank too!
Transport Evolved: Take 2 Good! As others mentioned you need to make sure your insulation is up to scratch at the same time. I installed 8cm of interior insulation on the outside walls before adding the heat pump. For my 100m2 (~1000sq ft) apartment I used an 8kW Daikin outside unit and three inside units - considered to be the Mercedes (Tesla?!) of aircon units. With your larger property you could consider a phased approach - add some units for the most used rooms first and then add further units later as funds allow.
Nifty. How well is the house insulated at present, have you installed any additional insulation, do you think that you may install more insulation (in particular, external insulation) in the future? Have a great week T.E. team.
The only time Mysa would not like your wiring hook-up is when you have a 110V baseboard heater, which is not uncommon. On a 110V system it needs the "hot" in the right place in order for it to work.
Any update on how much you saved using Mysa? Just bought a house, and my houses has a lot of electric baseboard. Thinking of using Mysa smart thermostat, and I would like to know you opinion on it.
Hi there. I have 4 baseboard connected to one thermostat. when we opened the old thermostat we saw there were 4 wires and all 4 wires had the electricity in it. we tried to connect the Mysa thermostat but we couldn't connect. we couldnt figure out which line goes to where. Any advise?
@@TransportevolvedTake2 You may need to replace the thermostats again when you do this. I had to scrap the smart thermostat I bought as the smart thermostat had what is called a 'time proportional' control, this is a nice and efficient technique for conventional gas or resistive heating system they are dreadful for heat pumps. This is because the heat pump needs a few minutes minimum to establish a temperature difference before it can deliver any heat so when the time proportional control drops to a low level it just starts and stops the pump using electricity, but no heat! It can also destroy the compressor starter :-(
Resistive heating? Smart thermostats will help, but they cannot do miracles. Have you considered a heat pump? Large investment, I know, but it will pay for itself in a few years. Or are Oregon winters too cold for heat pumps to work efficiently? Perhaps you can use your well as the heat source for the pump?
@@TransportevolvedTake2 If you were wealthy, you would not need them :-) I know - I remember how it is to start a company, and I saw your musings about budgeting and prioritizing event to attend.
The app sucks. It's a pain to create a schedule. You must remember to "copy day". If not you would think the schedule would work for one day only. Not! You also have to give the schedule a name! But wait! After that you also have to apply the schedule you finally successuly named and saved.
You asked the other channel yes we should be semi Off the Grid I think being semi Off the Grid would be good not only for wildfires but for terrorist acts against the power grid
Thank you! I’ve been waiting for a smart thermostat for my basement base board heaters!
Thank you for posting this video ! My Mysa thermostat would turn on, but it wouldn't turn the heater on. I live in Canada and for some reason the wiring in my house was the same setup as yours. I would've never thought to have setup the wires like you did until I saw your video. Thanks !!!
Just for clarification in the US which uses 2-phase, for 240v circuits, both sides are hot. There is no neutral (unless it's a 4 wire setup, which doesn't apply to these heaters). The old switch simply disconnected both sides of the circuit which is the safest as it insures there's no electricity at the heater when off. The smart switch simply disconnects one side of the circuit. There's still power at the heater, but the circuit isn't complete and the heater won't run (just make sure to never jam a fork or other metal device into the heater even when off LOL). Too bad Mysa cheaped out and didn't add another internal switch for both sides. If they did, it would have been a much easier as basically it would have been a wire for wire swap.
So many memories to my first home in Vancouver/Portland area with the Cadet heaters. The history of the area having vast amounts of hydroelectric power available ment such cheap inefficient heaters were still inexpensive to use. On the other hand vast amounts of clean energy.
When ever you work with electricity you first have to check if the thing like outlet or switch has still electricity with voltmeter so you won't be electrocuted
The video above doesn't show an extra safety check, but the manual instructs you to turn your existing old thermostat to maximum heat and wait for 5-10 minutes to see if the heater is still on (even after you turn the breaker off).
I have 16 of them in my house and they are phenomenal
Hello David , Question? Can you raise or lower heat manually at the thermostat,or do you have to use your phone to control heat . Thankyou
@@williameisenberg1999 I just installed 7 of these in my house. Yes, you can change the temperature at the thermostat. Also, you can disable the manual control if you want to.
david green .Thankyou Mr. Green . I,m going to get a couple right now . I got a small cabin love to have it warmed up before I get there ,so this is perfect .... Thanks again ...
Susan Eisenberg yes just simple touch on the thermostat will adjust manually
jesus. why does your house have 16 thermostats?
Also insulate - insulate - insulate, and make sure the house is well sealed from air penetrations. -- You might be able to get the local power company to give you the electric usage history of the house (typically by month) for the prior couple of years. --- just a thought
How did this work out? Was there a follow-up video?
I am in the process of installing new base board and my home automation was stuck now i think i got the right device to complete the automation. I want to use homekit goefencing to cut off heating and good night scene to step down the heating 🤓
Keep on making interesting videos that you like
Let the channel have a different character then the first one
Good luck
Actually heading out to Best Buy ,to buy two for my daughters Condo.
Could not find in any of the Big Box Stores .
Long term you would be better to install air/air heat pump(s). Two key benefits - efficiency - around 4kW of heat for 1kW of electricity in on average, plus with reversible units you get aircon for the summer too. You can also get air/water heat pumps to heat your hot water with similar efficiency increases. Later you can dump excess solar sourced electricity into your hot water tank too!
That IS our long term plan - but that requires some modifications to the house that we're not financially able to do yet. ^Nikki
Transport Evolved: Take 2 Good! As others mentioned you need to make sure your insulation is up to scratch at the same time. I installed 8cm of interior insulation on the outside walls before adding the heat pump. For my 100m2 (~1000sq ft) apartment I used an 8kW Daikin outside unit and three inside units - considered to be the Mercedes (Tesla?!) of aircon units. With your larger property you could consider a phased approach - add some units for the most used rooms first and then add further units later as funds allow.
Nifty. How well is the house insulated at present, have you installed any additional insulation, do you think that you may install more insulation (in particular, external insulation) in the future? Have a great week T.E. team.
The only time Mysa would not like your wiring hook-up is when you have a 110V baseboard heater, which is not uncommon. On a 110V system it needs the "hot" in the right place in order for it to work.
Any update on how much you saved using Mysa? Just bought a house, and my houses has a lot of electric baseboard. Thinking of using Mysa smart thermostat, and I would like to know you opinion on it.
Thank you for your video
Hi there. I have 4 baseboard connected to one thermostat. when we opened the old thermostat we saw there were 4 wires and all 4 wires had the electricity in it. we tried to connect the Mysa thermostat but we couldn't connect. we couldnt figure out which line goes to where. Any advise?
There are no NEUTRALS in a 220V system, only black and white wires!
How are wires connected in the UK/EU (not USA anyway) if you don't use wire nuts?
Usually with screw connectors (nicknamed "chocolate blocks", at least where I come from) - sometimes these days with sprung clip connectors. ^Kate
Have you considered using a “heat pump” system for your heating, and AC needs?
We will, eventually. This is a stop gap, and something we can review!
@@TransportevolvedTake2 You may need to replace the thermostats again when you do this. I had to scrap the smart thermostat I bought as the smart thermostat had what is called a 'time proportional' control, this is a nice and efficient technique for conventional gas or resistive heating system they are dreadful for heat pumps. This is because the heat pump needs a few minutes minimum to establish a temperature difference before it can deliver any heat so when the time proportional control drops to a low level it just starts and stops the pump using electricity, but no heat! It can also destroy the compressor starter :-(
@Transport Evolved: Take 2 Any idea how much you think you can save? As an estimate...
$200?! That's cheap! Just this January my light bill was $900. I also have everything 100% electric.
Resistive heating? Smart thermostats will help, but they cannot do miracles. Have you considered a heat pump? Large investment, I know, but it will pay for itself in a few years.
Or are Oregon winters too cold for heat pumps to work efficiently? Perhaps you can use your well as the heat source for the pump?
We're looking long-term, but they're not cheap, and contrary to popular opinion, we're not super wealthy! ^Nikki :)
@@TransportevolvedTake2 If you were wealthy, you would not need them :-)
I know - I remember how it is to start a company, and I saw your musings about budgeting and prioritizing event to attend.
The app sucks. It's a pain to create a schedule. You must remember to "copy day". If not you would think the schedule would work for one day only. Not! You also have to give the schedule a name! But wait! After that you also have to apply the schedule you finally successuly named and saved.
Wow, that is not very cost effective for wanting to be “green” lololol
You asked the other channel yes we should be semi Off the Grid I think being semi Off the Grid would be good not only for wildfires but for terrorist acts against the power grid
You cut the videos too much. Thumbs down I want you to know I did that.