The vod the video is from is before I learned the music was too loud so I apologize it's loud in here, it's more quiet now in my stream now that I changed it so it should be fine for the future videos
Hey! I love these videos they are really informative and have inspired me to pick up sylas again. I've just been wondering how you have decided which builds or runes to do depending on your matchup.
I've been kinda just experimenting with everything tbh but depends which lane you're asking for, Top can do Grasp/Comet/Conq while Mid can do Conq/Elec, Top is very matchup dependent and mid is mainly preference while I think Elec is better overall. I have my Top Guide in the description and I'm going to start on making a Mid one as I've been re-liking mid with Elec again and ROA and while I like answering these questions I feel like it would be more efficient people read the guide then ask me questions. Though shortly to help you, ROA or Rocketbelt first into Cosmic for Mid (you can watch 8/18's vod as i played all Mid that day) and Elec (or Conq also works) and for Top it's Graps If you think you can stack it decently bit, or Comet with Q max If you can't touch them at all. Top lane has few builds but ROA into Liandry works or Liandry into Rift also is good, I would say you can try which one you like the most. ROA sustain is really nice though but mana isn't needed as much with Q max. I hope that helps and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, means a lot!!
@@diogopombo9273 I actually tried Elec again today for mid and it's still good and might be his best rune there, as it stands you can't fight mages for long so Conq doesn't have the value you want for the most part. Dark Harvest isn't too off from Elec, I might try it tomorrow but I wouldn't think it to be better than Electrocute. Overgrowth I like more beacuse it gives around 300~ HP during mid-late game, that's more than 500 gold worth of stats just that minor rune. Revitalize is also good but the numbers on it is very skewed, idk I'd intentional but current too tip counts the heal you get during the base so it's always high numbers, I think 300HP overall is just gonna do you more than 5% healing now that with W scaling with HP too
@@PetriciteLoL Hi again. I know I'm asking you a lot of questions about runes and I appreciate your attention to me. Thanks for the response, I must say, I think I'm having some identity issues with Sylas. I've played with the champion since its launch, in general everything has always been about Conqueror, in any lane, in any matchup... Then season 14 came and everything is a mess, since the beginning of this season Electrocute is the way to go and it really bothers me a lot. I admit that it's fun to do random oneshots with Elec but when I play with this rune I feel like I'm doing something wrong, that the champion shouldn't be played like that, that I can't participate in long fights because of this choice, etc... At the same time, Conqueror, which was always the "ideal" for Sylas, also always seemed forced, you are forced to do tons of CDR for the rune to work and you basically can't use 100% of the rune until you have some CDR. It seems that Sylas has no defined identity, he is neither an assassin nor a bruiser, well, not exactly, he likes long fights but not too long, idk.. Sylas has an early playing style and another style in the mid/late, early he wants to make short exchanges and outsustain opponents or poke them with Qmax, he doesn't really want to get involved in a fight to the death due to long CDs in the beginning, therefore, a short trade rune is more favored than Conqueror... In mid/late he wants to fight to the death, using infinite combo rotations until he runs out of mana, so a long trade rune is just better. So I look for alternatives, Feet, Comet, Aery, Phase Rush, Grasp and Dark Harvest seem to be rune options that make more sense, being able to be used in short trades and still being useful in long trades. Really, this is driving me crazy. Sorry big text
@@diogopombo9273 No I get what you mean, I talk about this on stream a lot and I intentionally didn't try Electrocute again just because If it's still the best rune Riot is literally just failed so hard on this adjustment, they tried to take away damage and get HP scaling but his most sucessful build in Mid still is Lichbane rush which is kinda just insane. I'm going to experiment more, the changes are still fairly new and I tried SO MANY build at this points it's insane, either way in mid Elec is the best by far, maybe Lichbane rush isn't a must so I'm gonna try that but in mid, just by design, you need to do damage to survive and kill mages, you can't do a long fight in mid, it is just not possible. Then how is Galio doing good in mid? Honestly they could change Sylas into more of a Galio but he is inherently good with short trades since his kit supports it and he can farm from far with his Q and doesnt get punished as that's his only max ability he does anyway, If you do Q max sylas you do a lot of damage but it's so unreliable in mid-late game and your W is just do 50 damage point and click button and on top of that Galio has a shield to go against poke. In Top he's a lot more flexiable with builds and runes as like I really like this build on the video with Grasp but you can't do that every game for sure. I hope Riot changes him again but I doubt it tbh and they'll just ignore him but honestly who knows maybe they'll own up to it's fail and try something new, guessing it's a 2-3 more months wait time into "we're gonna do a mini rework on him" angle.
@@PetriciteLoL Yeah, Sylas suffers from the same problem as Gragas and Aurora, they are/should be fighters, but they simply work better with burst. My honest guess, they should return the shield in E2, maybe give an adaptive shield, but Sylas needs some other defensive power to finally break away from Wmax. Sincerely. I have one last untested idea that could work, which is basically not doing RoA or any other mana item and starting with Cosmic Drive or Riftmaker, basically a really bruiser start, to compensate for this I intend to use two mana runes together, PoM and Manaflow. I just want to be free from mana constraints and start with a powerful powerspyke with an item with AP, HP and CDR. Edit: Tried, playable but not too good, I will go DH with mana itens, I just give up and go mas scale.
@@diogopombo9273 I do agree shield would fix a lot of his problem and would benefit his long-fight playstyle more. I do also like the Cosmic rush I think it's decent, Rift is a good third item imo just because If you build it first you're losing a lot of value from it due to it's passive that gives you AP with bonus HP and it feels inefficient imo. I think mana isn't ALWAYS necessary as honestly to play sylas you need to just use your mana on enemy and never minions so it saves you a lot, he's already one of the worst CS'ing champs in the whole game in mid lane so just try to constantly trade, If you hit E there's a good chance you'll win If you have electrocute. Conq works differently as you need some AH to become online which is okay but playing Sylas every game, it becomes bothersome to try to scale when some games are just done in 10 mins. But good testing, that is very fair.
The vod the video is from is before I learned the music was too loud so I apologize it's loud in here, it's more quiet now in my stream now that I changed it so it should be fine for the future videos
Hey! I love these videos they are really informative and have inspired me to pick up sylas again. I've just been wondering how you have decided which builds or runes to do depending on your matchup.
I've been kinda just experimenting with everything tbh but depends which lane you're asking for, Top can do Grasp/Comet/Conq while Mid can do Conq/Elec, Top is very matchup dependent and mid is mainly preference while I think Elec is better overall. I have my Top Guide in the description and I'm going to start on making a Mid one as I've been re-liking mid with Elec again and ROA and while I like answering these questions I feel like it would be more efficient people read the guide then ask me questions.
Though shortly to help you, ROA or Rocketbelt first into Cosmic for Mid (you can watch 8/18's vod as i played all Mid that day) and Elec (or Conq also works) and for Top it's Graps If you think you can stack it decently bit, or Comet with Q max If you can't touch them at all. Top lane has few builds but ROA into Liandry works or Liandry into Rift also is good, I would say you can try which one you like the most. ROA sustain is really nice though but mana isn't needed as much with Q max. I hope that helps and I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, means a lot!!
Hi Petricite it’s SylasGamer from twitch I wish you much fun even tho I can’t see your streams
@@JoshuaPross-cy2hk Thank you so much i appreciate that a lot!
Hey man, what do you think of Dark Harvest with W or Qmax? also why not use Revitalize over Overgrowth in grasp builds?
@@diogopombo9273 I actually tried Elec again today for mid and it's still good and might be his best rune there, as it stands you can't fight mages for long so Conq doesn't have the value you want for the most part. Dark Harvest isn't too off from Elec, I might try it tomorrow but I wouldn't think it to be better than Electrocute. Overgrowth I like more beacuse it gives around 300~ HP during mid-late game, that's more than 500 gold worth of stats just that minor rune. Revitalize is also good but the numbers on it is very skewed, idk I'd intentional but current too tip counts the heal you get during the base so it's always high numbers, I think 300HP overall is just gonna do you more than 5% healing now that with W scaling with HP too
@@PetriciteLoL Hi again.
I know I'm asking you a lot of questions about runes and I appreciate your attention to me.
Thanks for the response, I must say, I think I'm having some identity issues with Sylas.
I've played with the champion since its launch, in general everything has always been about Conqueror, in any lane, in any matchup...
Then season 14 came and everything is a mess, since the beginning of this season Electrocute is the way to go and it really bothers me a lot.
I admit that it's fun to do random oneshots with Elec but when I play with this rune I feel like I'm doing something wrong, that the champion shouldn't be played like that, that I can't participate in long fights because of this choice, etc...
At the same time, Conqueror, which was always the "ideal" for Sylas, also always seemed forced, you are forced to do tons of CDR for the rune to work and you basically can't use 100% of the rune until you have some CDR.
It seems that Sylas has no defined identity, he is neither an assassin nor a bruiser, well, not exactly, he likes long fights but not too long, idk..
Sylas has an early playing style and another style in the mid/late, early he wants to make short exchanges and outsustain opponents or poke them with Qmax, he doesn't really want to get involved in a fight to the death due to long CDs in the beginning, therefore, a short trade rune is more favored than Conqueror...
In mid/late he wants to fight to the death, using infinite combo rotations until he runs out of mana, so a long trade rune is just better.
So I look for alternatives, Feet, Comet, Aery, Phase Rush, Grasp and Dark Harvest seem to be rune options that make more sense, being able to be used in short trades and still being useful in long trades.
Really, this is driving me crazy.
Sorry big text
@@diogopombo9273 No I get what you mean, I talk about this on stream a lot and I intentionally didn't try Electrocute again just because If it's still the best rune Riot is literally just failed so hard on this adjustment, they tried to take away damage and get HP scaling but his most sucessful build in Mid still is Lichbane rush which is kinda just insane. I'm going to experiment more, the changes are still fairly new and I tried SO MANY build at this points it's insane, either way in mid Elec is the best by far, maybe Lichbane rush isn't a must so I'm gonna try that but in mid, just by design, you need to do damage to survive and kill mages, you can't do a long fight in mid, it is just not possible.
Then how is Galio doing good in mid? Honestly they could change Sylas into more of a Galio but he is inherently good with short trades since his kit supports it and he can farm from far with his Q and doesnt get punished as that's his only max ability he does anyway, If you do Q max sylas you do a lot of damage but it's so unreliable in mid-late game and your W is just do 50 damage point and click button and on top of that Galio has a shield to go against poke. In Top he's a lot more flexiable with builds and runes as like I really like this build on the video with Grasp but you can't do that every game for sure.
I hope Riot changes him again but I doubt it tbh and they'll just ignore him but honestly who knows maybe they'll own up to it's fail and try something new, guessing it's a 2-3 more months wait time into "we're gonna do a mini rework on him" angle.
@@PetriciteLoL Yeah, Sylas suffers from the same problem as Gragas and Aurora, they are/should be fighters, but they simply work better with burst.
My honest guess, they should return the shield in E2, maybe give an adaptive shield, but Sylas needs some other defensive power to finally break away from Wmax.
Sincerely.
I have one last untested idea that could work, which is basically not doing RoA or any other mana item and starting with Cosmic Drive or Riftmaker, basically a really bruiser start, to compensate for this I intend to use two mana runes together, PoM and Manaflow.
I just want to be free from mana constraints and start with a powerful powerspyke with an item with AP, HP and CDR.
Edit: Tried, playable but not too good, I will go DH with mana itens, I just give up and go mas scale.
@@diogopombo9273 I do agree shield would fix a lot of his problem and would benefit his long-fight playstyle more. I do also like the Cosmic rush I think it's decent, Rift is a good third item imo just because If you build it first you're losing a lot of value from it due to it's passive that gives you AP with bonus HP and it feels inefficient imo. I think mana isn't ALWAYS necessary as honestly to play sylas you need to just use your mana on enemy and never minions so it saves you a lot, he's already one of the worst CS'ing champs in the whole game in mid lane so just try to constantly trade, If you hit E there's a good chance you'll win If you have electrocute. Conq works differently as you need some AH to become online which is okay but playing Sylas every game, it becomes bothersome to try to scale when some games are just done in 10 mins. But good testing, that is very fair.
do you have a music playlist? its really chill.
@@HerbDevourer It is synthmwave radio by Lofi Girl on UA-cam, some of the tracks there are really good
3 item can't even kill tristana with e w man this champs is so dead
52% wr but oki