06/30/2022 Bell Test (Simplex 4100ES)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- If this seems a bit familiar, it's because I have been here before, and as you can see, there are a ton of issues. The first issue you see is that a strobe light has been damaged and will need to be replaced. Plus, the bell next to it isn't working properly (its mechanism works, but the striker isn't hitting the gong). There have been renovations within the past year and in the renovation area, they installed TrueAlert horn/strobes (which interestingly enough are in sync with the bells), but even those have issues as we discovered not one, but two signals (one at 1:04 and the signal in the room at 2:02) that were non-functional. Going back out into the armory, I discover 5 more bells with the same issue as the first bell. Being familiar with these bells, I know the mechanisms on these bells are adjustable, so they may not need to be replaced, but given their age, they may end up being replaced anyway. Aside from the bells, the beam detectors in the armory have issues too, and have had issues for a while now. The current beam detectors are so low that the system is frequently set off by objects being used in the armory and as a result, the detectors are simply disconnected. Despite being a 4100ES, the system is set up in a conventional manner (the exceptions being the elevator devices and the newly renovated area) and when the beam detectors get disconnected, the panel remains normal, which leads me to believe the circuit is "T-tapped". According to the fire safety officer, they're working on either getting new beam detectors that will be installed higher up, or installing a new VESDA smoke detection system (which is the more expensive option of the two). Hopefully all of these issues get fixed soon.
These fire alarm bells sounds amazing and cool I love the sound of the fire alarm bells when they are on code 3
4:48 We got a Bell in the bathroom!
I remember this place! (I think unless it’s another place with these cool bell combos)
Something buildings from the 70s that get expanded get horn strobes in the new section and bells with strobes in the old section. I went to a building similar except it had Wheelock alarms
I love a combo between two different alarms.
Yep, A Combo of Newer Horn/Strobes and Older Mechanical Bells.
I wonder if this building expanded at some point? I know of a building that opened up in the early 70s and initially had Wheelock bells and when they added an addition in the late 80s early 90sto the building the addition had Wheelock horn strobes and they put strobes in the rest of the building and kept the bells.
I’m not 100% sure, but I think I remember reading somewhere that Simplex panels can sync audible NACs and smartsync horns together. I know that’s what they did at my CTE school which was a mix of TrueAlerts, old Wheelock and AC horns
Interesting how they installed the bells and strobes that way. Normally in a case like that, Simplex would've put the bell on a 4905-9921 trim plate with horizontal 4903 strobe, even if they have to get the right-sized backboxes. Or were the strobes installed some time after the bells were?
The strobes came in way after the bells, I just have that feeling by looking at the overall set-up. And I love your idea of the 4905-9921 plate and I would of done the back boxes with them too.
that's a weird combo. we got Simplex 2901-9333 bells and Truealert horn/strobes, both running on code 3.
Man, this is good, you gotta love simplex!
I didn't watch the whole video, but it's an interesting system.
Update: the light is now fixed and the fire bells too thanks to fire alarm headquarters and fixers
How would you know?
@@ZacharyHappy366 Got a smart brain
@@ToothlessThedragon9 you sure? Tell me the place then, I was willing to go here but idk what is it
I like the Simplex 2901-9333. I will likely get it in the future if they're still being sold on Ebay.
I think it's cool how we got old bells, oldish horn/strobes and kinda old Trualerts
The horn/strobes are actually ceiling-mount TrueAlerts.
There's also wall-mounted Truealerts as well. The Bells appear to be left over from an older fire alarm system.
I believe the broken bells should be replaced by TrueAlert horns to save money! What alarms are set to replace the broken bells?
Most likely Wheelock bells
Nice! The bells in my school only do continuous.
Nice video Dan. Hopefully those bells are mended.
That thumbnail. My local Bed, Bath, & Beyond has some strobes (4904-9137; speaker strobes are 4903-9144’s) hanging loose and even a missing pull station (2099-9795).
Have you heard the system in alarm?
@@GaryBeltz no I haven’t. Panel is probably a 4100.
"which interestingly enough are in sync with the bells"
If the devices are being coded by the facp, its hard for them to get out of sync
Yes, but the horns are smartsync and the bells are not, and smartsync has a different coding pattern than regular coded devices. As mentioned, the panel has the ability to run the circuits so that the audibles turn on and off at the same time.
@@weatherdan882002 a section 8 fire inspection
Here's the Alarms:
Simplex 4906-9127's
Simplex 4906-9228's
Simplex 4904 Remote Strobes
Simplex 2901-9333's
Simplex 4906-9101's
Simplex T-Bar's
Simplex 4100ES coded to Code 3
0:50 that threw me off for a second
I wonder if its a Canada thing to put mechanical bells in restrooms? I know the US the days of the bells they weren't in restrooms but modern fire alarms they have sometimes horns or speakers in restrooms and sometimes just strobes
I do find it wierd you guys are allowed to do this. Here, we can only run bells together or horns together, can't really mix them, as you wanna keep the sound consistent. Only time they are 'mixed' is Bells in the halls and Mini Horns in the units. Or the occasional horn swap over and they miss a few bells here and there.
It's a money-saving move for sure.
You can't make a building owner remove existing equipment, property rights. Why remove bells?
@@brianthetowerguy979 Who said anything about that?
@@brianthetowerguy979Hes in Canada, they require all fire devices to make the same sound
0:25 simplex strobe hanging loose
A LOT of these bells need repairs NOW! Especially the strobe that hung off the junction box with wires.
#whatafirealarmfail
Some of them don’t need to get replaced cuz it works
😂 👍🏻 fire alarm 🚨
0:21 what happened to that fire alarm
Oh I get it
Are those bells that are vibrating lightly supposed to do that or is that a malfunction?
Malfunction. Over time the mechanisms can wear down to the point where they don't have the power to make the striker hit the gong. One solution is to adjust the mechanism, but that may only last for so long.
@@weatherdan882002 my middle school had to replace 2 1956 gray single stroke bells on the original fire alarms. One in the auditorium with a red bell and one with a scoreboard sounding horn in the art wing due to malfunction. But some point after I went to high school they installed the est genesis speaker strobes in the building. But did leave at least one gray bell mounted after that system was disabled but I don't know if it's still there since they renovated a few years ago
Cool
What does T-taped mean?
Basically it's a circuit within a circuit. It's okay on an addressable initiating device circuit because each device is individually addressed and monitored, however for NACs and conventional initiating circuits it's not allowed because the panel can't properly monitor for circuit supervision (if a break we're to happen in the branched off circuit, the panel wouldn't know because it'd still see the end of line resistor in the original circuit).
@@weatherdan882002 there’s a way you can put a EOLR in a device on the same circut, however it is not possible on 2 wire devices I don’t think. On a device that’s 3 wire, you can use the negative terminal your not using and the panel monitors that like it’s an individual device. (Idk if you already knew that)
Have they ever fix the strobe in the thumbnail?
Not sure. We replaced the bells though.
@@weatherdan882002 if they replace the bell they shouldn’t left the strobe hanging.
@@rodgodx345 At the time we replaced the bells, the new strobe hadn't come in yet. I'm not sure if it was subsequently replaced or not.
@@weatherdan882002 oh okay.
Strobe Fail 😱! 0:22
What's wrong with that second alarm strobe it looks like it's gonna fall
It got hit by something and broke away from the electrical box; needs to be replaced to fix the issue.
@@weatherdan882002 why don’t you add tape?
@@ZacharyHappy366 you can't add tape. The system wouldn't pass inspections if it's taped up.
@@FireRescue80 my elementary system fire alarm is just a fail🤦♂️ plastic bag on a fire alarm, simplex 2903 falling, painted over and a nest which wasn’t removed yet.
@@ZacharyHappy366 don't think painting a 2903 is really considered a write up depending on when and how the alarm was painted.
Bell like a wood 3:34
0:22 #whatafirealarmfail
Good lord...noisy truealerts in the restrooms...ugh...
The restrooms only had remote strobes in them, except for the last one that had the bell in it.
I saw a fire alarm fail!
0:24 #WHATAFIREALARMFAIL
1/1 is very very bad sound
i saw a strobe that fell off
0:25 #whatafirealarmfail