Rescue of the damaged crankshaft Honda CR 250 - 2T

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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
  • Hi. This video shows - step by step - removing the sheets from the damaged crankshaft - assembly - balancing .
    The connecting rod did not change to a new one - it had about 5 mth.
    . . . for more interesting videos click ,, HERE "
    / @paulxchannel

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  • @vincentzompa5541
    @vincentzompa5541 4 роки тому +4

    As a motorcycle mechanic for 20 years I have rebuilt many cranks this way including the Hondas. Different technique but the same result good job👍

  • @c2gutbuster
    @c2gutbuster 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you making a video that does not have stupid music and droning dialogue. It just gets down to business. In the same league as newyorkshireworkshop.

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 Рік тому +4

    Great job re-trueing the crankshaft! This video is inspiring me to find a used but decent crankshaft to try rebuilding and re-truing it. (In order to really figure this kind of stuff out you’ve got to do it, right?) Well done sir as always! 👍

  • @smcr4698
    @smcr4698 4 роки тому +10

    Keep up the good work! Greetings from Romania👍

  • @arnenelson4495
    @arnenelson4495 4 роки тому +3

    Honda's version of crankcase stuffers which is what we called 'em back in the 60's and 70's. Been rebuilding cranks for decades.

  • @t.scottswirles3052
    @t.scottswirles3052 4 роки тому +2

    Perfect results, and what a beautiful final test rig. Thank you for sharing your efforts with the world.

  • @reminoel483
    @reminoel483 4 роки тому +2

    You are exposing so many machine shops techniques haha!!! New subscriber here. Love the content

  • @xygarkemper6392
    @xygarkemper6392 2 роки тому +3

    Does that sheet metal take off not affect the horsepower or the quality of the engine?? I have a CR250 from 87 an needs rod remplacment so i don't know if I need to take those covers of..

    • @satan101101
      @satan101101 Рік тому +2

      Yes it will effect your bottom end power because of a lower crankcase pressure that caused by removing the cover, But your engine will run cooler at high rpm though.

  • @viorelindeamna6405
    @viorelindeamna6405 4 роки тому +1

    Bravo Paul 👍👍👍🙂

  • @liamhotspur9182
    @liamhotspur9182 Місяць тому

    How the heck can you damage that sheet like that?!?

  • @wdobni
    @wdobni 3 роки тому +2

    how did the stuffer get torn up? it doesn't seem to do any work and is not connected to anything ....

    • @frankacosta5446
      @frankacosta5446 3 роки тому +1

      Every part has a service limit. 1 million hours of vibration!

  • @alipim3504
    @alipim3504 4 роки тому

    Parabéns excelente trabalho sou do Brasil parabéns 👍🇧🇷

  • @lalrintluangavanchhawng7483
    @lalrintluangavanchhawng7483 4 роки тому +7

    1:11 when you finally release your supressed fart after your girlfriend leaves your room.

  • @diegojuarez7393
    @diegojuarez7393 3 роки тому

    No le afecta quitarle el recubrimiento ?

  • @7120martina
    @7120martina Місяць тому

    How much is the axial tolerance that you left on the connecting rod?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  Місяць тому

      I press to the original size.

    • @7120martina
      @7120martina Місяць тому

      @PaulXchannel and in thousandths how much is it approx?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  Місяць тому +1

      Approx - 0.3mm - 0.4mm

    • @7120martina
      @7120martina Місяць тому

      @@PaulXchannel Thank you very much my friend!! You don't know how much I appreciate that information. I'm from Chile and there isn't much information about this beautiful bike. Greetings from Chile, blessings, very good video!!

  • @G-spotGeorge
    @G-spotGeorge 2 роки тому +2

    thanks I think I'll just buy a new one now

  • @Andrew_Fernie
    @Andrew_Fernie 4 роки тому +3

    My engine had a broken part and here is how I fixed it..... I took the broken part off. Next week, how to fix a puncture... just take the tyre off.

  • @tk423b
    @tk423b 3 роки тому +2

    What was the purpose of the covers?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 роки тому +3

      probably an increase in crankcase pressure

    • @frankacosta5446
      @frankacosta5446 3 роки тому +3

      To decrease crankcase volume. Less charge to the bottom end more charge to the transfer ports.

  • @jmy6050
    @jmy6050 3 роки тому +1

    Is the crank going back into service??

  • @AdiMotormotor
    @AdiMotormotor 4 роки тому +1

    Good job,I like. 👍

  • @nunesmotos351
    @nunesmotos351 4 роки тому

    Um trabalho muito organizado;dou valor Nunes motos Queimadas na Paraíba

  • @jwoodduck3207
    @jwoodduck3207 Рік тому +2

    Ok where does one find such a clean designed truing stand?

  • @vincentzompa5541
    @vincentzompa5541 4 роки тому

    You can also do this to four stroke cranks

  • @OriginalJami
    @OriginalJami 3 роки тому

    Do you have a link with bike running ?

  • @chiradip24
    @chiradip24 3 роки тому +1

    Hi, Nice video!!
    could you please help me understand, when changing connecting rod kit, should we go for over size pin or same size pin? Thanks

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 роки тому +1

      The size of the pin is always the same

    • @chiradip24
      @chiradip24 3 роки тому +1

      @@PaulXchannel Thanks for replying. Is it possible to re-use old pin if it is not damaged?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  3 роки тому +1

      Yes

    • @chiradip24
      @chiradip24 3 роки тому +1

      @@PaulXchannel Thanks again for promptly replying. Appreciate your time and patience.

  • @antonoudenhoven7573
    @antonoudenhoven7573 4 роки тому +3

    Why was there extra metal on the crankshaft.
    My first taught was delete it lol.

  • @nathanielwinkle1955
    @nathanielwinkle1955 4 роки тому +1

    Are those plates to stop turbulence rather than to add volume as this looks like an afterthought on Honda's part which I would not think likely, easier to machine the cases smaller, what do you think?

    • @grantfuller2016
      @grantfuller2016 4 роки тому +1

      Paul Duffy The plates “ fill “ the volume in the crank shaft that is machined out for balance purposes , so no , you can’t just make the cases smaller .

    • @nathanielwinkle1955
      @nathanielwinkle1955 4 роки тому

      @@grantfuller2016 Oh is that's why the cranks are machined out " for balance purposes " ?

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 роки тому

      @@nathanielwinkle1955 the crank can be full round... but its a cheap ass solution from honda... and yes the cases can be smaler for more squisch

    • @nathanielwinkle1955
      @nathanielwinkle1955 4 роки тому

      @@evaork3746 thank you

    • @jeffer9499
      @jeffer9499 4 роки тому +5

      @@evaork3746 No it cant be full round. It is offset to counter balance the weight of the rod and piston. The metal on the outside is to take up volume inside the crankcase increasing your primary compression. While this may run. You are giving up top end generally from a lower primary compression. Many builders will fill the crankcase with epoxy to increase primary compression which generally increases your top end. There is so much science to this that it cant be explained in youtube comments.

  • @frankacosta5446
    @frankacosta5446 3 роки тому +1

    Should have done a rod kit while you were at it.

  • @TheJagot
    @TheJagot 4 роки тому +2

    Yo paul what fuction the thing you remove? Nice video👍

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks .
      Probably because of the mixture

    • @alexthebear
      @alexthebear 4 роки тому +1

      It is displacers for af mixture. They help to take and give a little bit more amount of mixture ... But it will works fine!

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому

      👍

  • @robytm
    @robytm 4 роки тому +9

    Loss of performance due to the increased free volume in the crankcase.
    If Honda made that covers on the crankshaft there is a reason.

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому +3

      I know but dont worry. It work well.
      There is enough power.

    • @robytm
      @robytm 4 роки тому +1

      @@PaulXchannel yes there should be surely enough power.
      But a bit less of response at low mid range.

    • @12main
      @12main 4 роки тому

      In layman's language what are the crankshaft covers for?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому

      @@12main Probably due to a mixture of petrol and air.
      Weight down - turn up :)

    • @TorteTS
      @TorteTS 4 роки тому

      @@12main Increase the pre-compression by reducing the crankcase volume.

  • @syaipulbahri6406
    @syaipulbahri6406 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome paul, Good Job. But Why you do Not replace every cover Kruk As ?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому

      Thanks.
      Impossible to change cover - is pressed

    • @syaipulbahri6406
      @syaipulbahri6406 4 роки тому

      Oke paul complex for re Fabrication cover.

  • @mecalpsha4473
    @mecalpsha4473 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Paul excellent video! What was the purpose of the 'shell' around the crank (know the stuffer usually like some sort of polymer material).

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому

      Thanks.
      I think so too.

    • @martinarellano3181
      @martinarellano3181 4 роки тому +2

      The purpose of the cans where for case volume. CR500 where the same way. it's not a very good design from Honda but change it in 2003

    • @5tr41ghtGuy
      @5tr41ghtGuy 4 роки тому

      @@martinarellano3181 with the "cans" removed, how well does the engine run? Seems like Honda would only put them there for a reason.

    • @TheRwhitley57
      @TheRwhitley57 4 роки тому +2

      @@5tr41ghtGuy with no ass at all. Very flat motors with the tins removed, but you gotta do what ya gotta do

    • @sm400
      @sm400 3 роки тому +3

      Probably a better repair than putting a complete Chinese crank in it...Hotnoodles or whatever flavour... 😁

  • @mariosnikolaou5212
    @mariosnikolaou5212 4 роки тому

    Man your videos are really nice!!

  • @motorozwad
    @motorozwad 4 роки тому +1

    GOOD JOB :)

    • @eddiecruz407
      @eddiecruz407 4 роки тому +1

      All your videos are really good, but to run that crank with no stuffers is not good at all, the bike will loose all low end response, Honda builds that crank so it's light, and the tin can takes up the excess volume.

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому +1

      I know.
      It's only rescue of the crankshaft.
      Thanks.

  • @randomvidio6193
    @randomvidio6193 3 роки тому +1

    I'am from Indonesian

  • @nareshkumar-hj3qr
    @nareshkumar-hj3qr 2 роки тому

    Sir krank saft ko sidi krne ki mashin ka name bta do

  • @jeffcruz-73
    @jeffcruz-73 4 роки тому +1

    Hi
    Cool videos👍🏻
    Did you make the crank runout tool?
    Are you a automotive engineer by trade?
    Cheers!

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому +3

      Tools made in my workshop

    • @jwoodduck3207
      @jwoodduck3207 Рік тому +1

      That is a nice trueing stand. Would you make another one for the right price? I really like the design.

  • @pablorivera1196
    @pablorivera1196 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know the name of those surface measuring watches?

  • @СергейЕмельянович-ф2ь

    Без экранов на щеках коленчатого вала будут сильные завихрения в кривошипной камере, вследствие чего потеря мощности, тем более мотор двухтактный

    • @BMW_MAN
      @BMW_MAN 4 роки тому

      Завихрения )) xD А резинка там уплотнительная зачем? Чувствую это не для улучшения ламинарности потоков в картере ))

  • @hendyprayitno9950
    @hendyprayitno9950 3 роки тому

    Harusnya pemadat kompresi dipasang kembali,atau pun klau rusak pemadat kompresi di buatkan dari teflon atau sejenisnya.karena dengan itu kompresi menjadi lebih padat

    • @irfanmaulana2800
      @irfanmaulana2800 2 роки тому

      Iyaa benner bang, saya juga heran liatnya kok gak di pasangin lagi.

  • @eduardbalalykin5339
    @eduardbalalykin5339 4 роки тому

    Мастер,снимаю шляпу.!!!!

  • @timengel7549
    @timengel7549 4 роки тому +3

    But what about the increased crank case volume?

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому +2

      Don't worry .
      It's functional.

    • @grantfuller2016
      @grantfuller2016 4 роки тому +5

      Tim Engel . I have done this many times with both 125 and 250’s and can definitely state the the power loss is surprisingly small . Even on a 125 only a skilled rider would notice the difference . It does make a a difference , but it’s not big .

  • @Gladenundentsichert
    @Gladenundentsichert 4 роки тому

    Theoretisch hast du damit ja sogar die Kurbelwelle erleichtert oder ? Wohin dienten die Ursprünglichen "Bleche" ? Grüße

    • @PaulXchannel
      @PaulXchannel  4 роки тому +1

      Ja .

    • @TorteTS
      @TorteTS 4 роки тому +3

      Erhöhung der Vorverdichtung durch Verringerung des Kurbelgehäusevolumens.

  • @steveone
    @steveone 3 роки тому +1

    Whats a new needle roller bearing cost over there ?

    • @venox5183
      @venox5183 3 роки тому +1

      it's not about cost ,but about time , oem parts take so long to ship ,and it's hard to get only that bearing without buying whole crank

    • @steveone
      @steveone 3 роки тому +2

      @@venox5183 Bearings are available from a multitude of vendors . This bearing will be available from a third party usually a lot cheaper .

    • @venox5183
      @venox5183 3 роки тому

      @@steveone Probably , but not always these are the same quality

    • @kwaka140
      @kwaka140 3 роки тому +5

      Pro-X rod. They supply silver plated flat cage bearings as well - 22.243117F. The covers would have been to reduce windage. The secondary effect would have been a reduction in crankcase volume. Removing it will probably improve thrust washer lubrication which it looked like they need. The increased windage will reduce performance and the increased crankcase volume will probably improve on-the-pipe performance. Maybe.

    • @Baboner984
      @Baboner984 Рік тому

      @@venox5183 i can buy the bearing and have it shipped in 2 days

  • @joeishere500
    @joeishere500 3 роки тому

    See,,,, hammers do work ✊

  • @davidvelez5219
    @davidvelez5219 4 роки тому +7

    Without this pieces crankcase volume is to much and pre compression is not adequate, so de bike not ride in perfect condition, 🙈

    • @79zeben
      @79zeben 4 роки тому +1

      Esto es cierto pero se puede ajustar para que funcione así

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 роки тому +2

      Bullshit.... it will run and drive just fine...

    • @kwaka140
      @kwaka140 3 роки тому +1

      Only OLD Villiers and the like used crankcase compression to transfer mixture. Modern engines at anything over cranking revs, and particularly on-the-pipe, use resonance. Increased crankcase volume will likely increase power, especially if other mods are done to take advantage of the extra volume.

  • @chadrides914
    @chadrides914 4 роки тому

    Very cool.

  • @kostassipsas4845
    @kostassipsas4845 4 роки тому +1

    The best

  • @ruswantobungkal949
    @ruswantobungkal949 4 роки тому

    Amazing....

  • @zardportugal
    @zardportugal 4 роки тому +1

    TOP

  • @brazideccyrille572
    @brazideccyrille572 2 роки тому

    ci y avait des plaque dans le moteur était pas pour rien la il est bon a rien ton vilo trop de volume dans le bas moteur

  • @evaork3746
    @evaork3746 4 роки тому +3

    What a cheap ass solution from honda... tin can shit... nicely done mate.... this thing will run like new... u won,t feel the diffrence.. 👍👍👍

    • @evaork3746
      @evaork3746 4 роки тому +1

      Thank u much👍

    • @MetalMike87
      @MetalMike87 4 роки тому +1

      Assembled crankshaft are kind dull and dumb ... and I think they're no more a viable solution on new engines due to their low efficiency emissions-wise

  • @jamesal0
    @jamesal0 4 роки тому +7

    wrong just wrong

  • @nikolayshvedow7725
    @nikolayshvedow7725 Рік тому +1

    Варвар

  • @IvanA-k7i
    @IvanA-k7i 4 роки тому

    👍