I don't take any of these comments by Lou seriously.I don't think Lou took himself seriously.He took his work seriously though,and I love it all.R.I.P. Lou.👏👏👏👏
Lou Reed hated himself more than any of these musicians & bands& HE WAS RIGHT. I know a lot of people who knew him& they all agree he was a miserable person to the very end.
I have to admit to being sick to death of them I never wish to hear them again in my life having Livepudlian parents(who me the band twice and some members alone),having been in 3 Beatles tribute bands( one ruthless scene that is the worst) but even I a longtime songwriter will never say they were rubbish ever!
@@gretagarbeige Not an insult just a probable cause of his extremely strange behaviour. Is being "Low" now an insult ? David Bowie was "Low" in fact, so much so that he named an album after it. Have a nice day.
No way.. Warhol had total control of the interview. Lou reed was always stressed out unless the interviewer was another musician or artist of some sort. His attitude was influenced by his stress level. Reed felt powerless with reporters because they burned him in sth 1960s so his stress level ruined him with them when they were friendly with him and had better intentions. Warhol's genius might have really just been how he talked to the press. His art was never as good as his p.r. abilities. Reed was always a mess.
I remember seeing Lou Reed standing in the wings at the Apollo in Glasgow (1978) when Bowie made his 'comeback' after he supposedly retired when 'The Spiders from Mars' broke-up - and by the looks of it, he enjoyed himself just as much as the audience enjoyed it!. It WAS a superb concert !
A lot of those old interviews with various musicians had them trashing each other for fun, and winking after they tried their latest put-down lines. Actually, they respected each other as musicians. As you say in the beginning of this video, endless strings of interviews became like a game.
Yep. I remember being at a Tull concert where Anderson was trashing the Stones. Obviously with a wink and a nod so subtle no one really got it. In reality, Ian said the Stones, Zeppelin, and Mountain were his fave bands.
Lou Reed was just a crank who got easily annoyed, sometimes with his own fans. Hell sometimes with his own creations. But I’d say there were some musicians from that time who genuinely didn’t like each other, or didn’t respect some other’s musicianship.
Yeah, also sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions, (they always write themselves out of the situations they report on. Becoming invisible in the narrative to the readers) - Sometimes I think the guy being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
I had a friend in HS in the early 70's who was very excited to see Lou Reed live. Lou came out and couldn't stand he was so drunk. He sat on the stage edge and just mumbled.
Reed was simply insecure and jealous of other artists whom he felt were competition for him, artists who had ambition to do more than 2 minute pop ditties, as he saw himself as "the artist" of pop music. Reed wrote a handful of good songs, but overall I found nothing of interest in his work. (I was not a big fan of Zappa, actually, but he certainly produced work of greater ambition and accomplishment than most of Reed's output.)
@@kevinjoseph517 Nihilist? Sarcastic? Certainly! And more, if you dig through his body of work. I was never captivated by him, so I have not heard most of his output.
I absolutely love most Lou Reed's solo albums, and his nasty lyrics, but compared to everyone who he trolled, I do think he had somewhat of an issue creating "concept" albums outside the theme of "street politics".
lol “jealous” is the weakest defense when someone gives an honest opinion. Especially when Lou is arguably better than all these people. I personally think he is.
This is an awful video: 1) Zappa was responsible for delaying The Velvets' first album' release from the spring of '66 to October '67: he pestered Verve (both The Velvets and The Mothers Of Invention were on Verve Records) not to promote The Velvets because they had Andy Warhol, among other things. 2) Reed once played Lennon's Mother and there are Velvets' bootlegs where they play Day Tripper. 3) Reed played an acoustic show with just Pete Townshend a few years before passing. 4) Reed disliked The Doors simply because Nico liked Jim Morrison of whom he was jealous (Nico told me). 5) At one point in 1974 there was talk about The Velvets re-uniting with John Cale, Nico & Roxy Music's Brian Eno who was a huge Velvet Underground fan. The people who make these videos don't know what they're talking about; I bet this guy wasn't even around in the 1970s... 🙄
Anyone can bash more popular bands. Keep in mind this is when everyone had chops and were pushing boundaries. These weren’t “pretty” kids and auto tune. They were all real musicians. Not liking the Beatles is just silliness and being petty. I’m not a fan of the Doors but they had their place. Bashing The Who and Townsend? I guess if you are going to be a jerk you might as well aim high.
Miserable Lou seems like he was jealous of anybody who was more popular, successful or respected than him; which was a lot of people we consider greats.
Hands down without a doubt. Those first 4 records especially are pure innovation, musical prowess, humor, style & magic. Also that he called Zappa "untalented" is a bit much. To say the same about Pete Townsend is just beyond the pale.
I think Lou is trolling, a lot of these responses were to idiot reporters, he was likely intoxicated at times, although some of these statements had truth in them
Yeah, also sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions, (they always write themselves out of the situations they report on. Becoming invisible in the narrative to the readers) - Sometimes I think the guy being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
I am a huge fan of Lou's solo and the Velvets music. I am also a a huge Zappa fan. Seen both of them live a handful of times each. I don't care for the Beatles, went through my Who phaze. At the end of the day, who the hell cares what Lou likes or dislikes. Think for yourself! If you like a band cool, if you don't, cool again. If anyone remembers the old magazine articles back in the day they did this "I don't like this band" shit all the time. Jerry Garcia, supposedly hated the Doors. Aerosmith disliked Queen. At the end of the day all this "I like this band, I hate this band" was just bullshit to sell magazines. By the way, I like Captain Beefheart and hate the Ramones.
@@RMTmusic1-mv1jh Keith Moon taught Joe Walsh how to party like a rockstar, who in turn taught the comedian, John Belushi, how to party to such an extreme.
I can't really dislike Lou. Transformers is one of those albums that doesn't have a single bad song. David Bowie saw a lot of talent in Lou and wanted to help him. That's why he produced Transformer. Along with Mick Ronson. Imagine if it had produced Lou's entire career. It would be impressive.
What I'm curious about is Lou's opinion on Marc Bolan and T. Rex. Bolan and Reed occupied some of the same ground musically, both were Jewish, and they even somewhat resembled each other physically. There are photos of Bolan at around 20 or 21 where he could pass for Lou. It's hard to imagine Lou NOT being impressed by "Bang a Gong."
"Both were Jewish" Funny how nobody will call you antisemitic for saying that, but if you were to say the same about Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Mark Zuckerberg, Vladimir Lenin, or Karl Marx for example then somehow that's different...
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b Ah, as Dave Chappelle said in his SNL monologue: "....ah, but when it's a group of "insert their name" it's just a coincidence." We're only allowed to refer to them collectively in the positive, all while they can negatively collectivize every other damn group, and especially Whites. We need to end that shit ASAP.
Any artist who calls the Beatles garbage,ain't much to think about, I heard this guy's name , maybe one song or 2 , Frank Zappa was a genius, this dude was a hypocrite, it ain't like he wrote the best stuff.
We're all entitled to our opinion and I respect yours, but let's face it, if someone judges The Beatles on their worst work or by the bulk of their solo careers they won't be deeply impressed. So unless you've heard Reed's best work from his professional prime, you may very well not be in a position to judge his merit. I don't mean to come across as hostile, though.
The video said that. 'Eponymous' basically means self titled [referring to his first solo record]; it also said 'Transformer' was the more successful follow-up. ;o)
way back in the 80s a couple buddies and myself were casting for a singer for a New Wave band..... I recall more then one came in and when asked who they sounded like they said (more then one said this LOL) I don't know, maybe Lou Reed.....Oh?.....you can't sing at all is what you are saying.... ? The fact is, Lou Reed would have to practice to have a voice for rap.... LOL
It makes me 💢 sort of disappointed that Lou says such things... 🌬️ because it probably is a sign of jealousy... You have to be pretentious to accuse so many original major artists to be... pretentious 😮 or rubbish.. There are enough second grade artists that are praised... Why destroy the good ones?😁
If he based his entire view of The Who on Tommy, okay, whatever. But he was wrong about them. Pete Townshend is one of the best songwriters in Rock history, and his post-Tommy stuff speaks for itself.
You are right Lou couldn't hold a candle to Townsend who was an excellent rhythm guitarist and just an average Lead player BUT man he write them NO doubt at all and yes they were amazing live in their prime!
He definitely had a few cracks in his soul. That made it all so much sweeter ,when he said or did something kind or loving . But in real life that's enabling abuse of your fans and your loved ones ... He seriously needed to be kicked to the curb for his issues . He was a genius, with a shitty attitude .
Cant say i agree with his take on some of the bands esp.the doors but reed was definitely not an overrated hack.the velvet underground were unique and way ahead of their time in my book.
most of his problems were jealousy. Zappa and him were rivals .. their personalities clashed because they were both wrong men? He obviously hates the people he loves.
The Underground were proto-punk, but that’s not saying much concidering punk’s whole schtick is looking at a prog-rock band and doing the polar opposite. “Fuck peace and love, we’re REAL street people!” is easy to do when it’s the prevailing sentiment, but quickly loses it’s edge and becomes the mainstream itself
How is Lou reed even known? He has the nerve to call The Who talentless?? Seriously? I've never heard anything he's done that gives any indication that Reed has the slightest bit of musical talent.
Sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions, (they always write themselves out of the situations they report on.) - Sometimes I think the person being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
It's funny , but Frank Zappa and Reed are my two Favourite artists , but Frank , was a Genius, The greatest composer of the 20th century , and Lou , the Poet , VALE Lou VALE FRANK . R
He was an iconoclast, and thats okay, I think aside from all the seriously confrontational nature of what he said about these other bands (which im guessing that was by design) the principle of the criticism was valid. Putting anyone in pop music on a pedestal is the actions of people who know no better, that its all fucking subjective. Adn im with him on Zappa, and im not even old enough to have been around when he was popular, but listening to his music now, whats the big f*cking deal. Like most jazz, just mostly self-indulgent bullshit
01:40 Reed can't say that Zappa liked ("admired") him without Zappa's permission. The story gets funny from the beginning. 02:25 Oh, question: What did Lou Reed do that was other than "Sweet Jane"?
Vicious Lou hit groups with a flower Lou do it every hour Oh, baby, Lou's so vicious Vicious Lou wanted to hit groups with a schtick But all he's got's a guitar pick Huh, baby, Lou's so vicious
True New Yorker - everything has to either be the absolute best or the absolute worse, as long as they can give their opinion in a forceful way that makes them sound like some sort of authority, no matter how stupid or uninformed they are. (And willing to completely reverse their position when the wind of popular opinion blows the other way.) Unlike his music, Lou's opinions aren't worth listening to.
He moved in with his parents in Long Island after the Velvet Underground 😀 When in the band took side gigs with John Cale playing Batman and Robin at kid’s birthday parties. Sorry to burst your bubble. He was a junkie too. A totally mess of an immature person.
Reed's take on the Doors was off base. The Doors made perhaps the darkest trippiest music of the era. They didn't have that bubblegum pop sound that many of their peers did and bands like the Byrds criticised them for that. So they didn't really fit in with the other bands of the era or that whole hippy movement so much. Maybe Reed was just jealous they were able to achieve a much more macabre, grittier vibe than the Velvets could. Not to mention Morrison's prowess as poet far exceeded Reed's poetic aspirations so there was that to contend with as well. And I say this as someone who still listens to both bands.
@@nickpagano7134 Well, the reason that I don't like the Doors is because I feel like they are very boring and mainstream; Their music sounds good but it lacks substance.
The Doors were making darker and more trippy music than White Light White Heat. Not nearly.Jim Morrison more poetry and Lou Reed more like prose, both some of the best. Agree that Lou was jealous. Morrison was was more of a dynamic performer. I am a huge fan of both bands.
Lou was just trolling at least in the case of Roxy Music and Frank Zappa. Didn't he do a great eoulogy or HOF induction for FZ? edit: yeah 1995 R&R HOF FZ induction.
I respect how hard he worked, the rep he made for himself. I can't stand any of his music. And I am grateful I never had to endure his presumptuous presence.
He doesn't like The Who? That sucks. I like The Who WAY more than I like VU. But I guess I have to be respectful since this is Lou Reed's video. Plus Rock and Roll is one of my all-time favorite songs. And why is Pete Townsend philosophically boring, wtf is that supposed that mean? You mean he can't actually see for miles and miles? I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear that....
if you don't like The Who you don't like R& R. I've had people tell me they don't like Dylan, The Beatles or Elvis Costello. That tells me the person has no taste whatsoever.
i think i heard him say he really likes the who in an interview from the 80s. I think he said they where the only good British band or something like that. He does say alot of things out of spite but i think that maybe he got alot more musically open as he got older. Obviously he was a contrarian too
He went on stage with Tom Petty , Jeff Lynne , and Eric Clapton and Bob Dylan and afterwards he said I cringed at first but I actually had fun with them.
No one gets press when they're sweet as cherry pie, Lou got each one of these acts attention. Even today it still sparks conversation. That said I kinda get sick of seeing contrived YT posts that amplify hate that really never was. The Beatles and Doors wrote about the exact same topic as Lou, The Beats and their art. Bowie is no slouch when it comes to reflecting the Beats art back to us either. It must be hard for those in the UK to understand the American Beat Literary Movement. Just guessing and assuming.
Yes! This piece of trash video is simply for clickbait. That's why this slug has only 2.2K subs and only 28 comments after more than 3 months. He probably wasn't even in the scene in this time! Video/uploader gets a big 👎!
Hmh, ... what probably lou reed´s wife, LYNN anderson was thinking about him during all the (strange?) common/connected years? Was he ever ready for her, or hated he the imagination to be ... ... ... ??
Reed wrote and performed some great music, but his public persona was embarrassingly infantile, like a 13-year-old desperate to impress. He had a point about Tommy though.
I don't dislike the Velvets, but it's musically inferior to the bands it criticizes. Lou Reed has only two satisfactory albums. Transformer and New York. He was a pretentious and frustrated individual.
I understand fury to Zappa, Zappa himself was really pretentious…, I get why hate the Beatles, they’re so popular it’s distasteful, BUT HATING ENO ERA ROXY MUSIC is just beyond my comprehension.
the zappa thing was probably due to the verve records rivalry and verve's choosing to promote one over the other... just a guess at the root of that one, but obv lou was bitchy and tongue in cheek to great extents...
I'm known a bit but not famous and been writing songs for 40 years. I know my stuff(on my other YT channel).I can say Lou Reed is the single most overrated musician if you can call him that in all of Alt Rock. He was more a spoken word poet ,he can't sing in key or hold a decent note, can barely strum more than a G, C ,and D and can't even speak/sing in time ,had a minimal amount of talent a person can have. He was known as one arrogant SOB and million of you fell for it.
Reed had a bummer journey.... a hick up... truth endures. Face it, I like many, consider myself a bud in a garden who opened slowly during the changing rock evolution as life experience evolved .We listeners adapted to real change that fit the chronicles explaining our romantic and political driven attitudes. Peace from the West Coast.
This guy at some point seems to have hated everybody. Especially people far more talented than him. The Doors were much more musically adventurous than the Velvet Underground.
I don't take any of these comments by Lou seriously.I don't think Lou took himself seriously.He took his work seriously though,and I love it all.R.I.P. Lou.👏👏👏👏
Lou even hated some of his own albums!!
Can't say I blame him. Too many of his solo albums were chock full of filler.
I’m a little surprised Velvet Underground wasn’t on this list. Lou Reed wouldn’t be my most trusted source.
About the only thing he was ever right about.
Lou had that in common with Lennon then. Lennon would often knock his own stuff, almost as much as he did Paul's. ;)
@@jeffmurdock8321 And the comparison ends there. Lennon had more talent in his baby toenail than Lou ever possessed.
UA-cam is getting poisoned by endless clickbait videos about who "hated" who in the music biz.
Lou Reed hated himself more than any of these musicians & bands& HE WAS RIGHT. I know a lot of people who knew him& they all agree he was a miserable person to the very end.
I completely believe you.
Good for you man good for you
@@ericaward702 Lou? That you?
😄
He had good times. He had a lot of mental issues and said things to be contrary.
Reed inducted Zappa into the Hall of Fame. That tells you what he really thought of him.
Does it? Or does it tells us Reed was a hypocrite?
As soon as someone says The Beatles are "garbage", I automatically can disregard any other opinion they have about music.
Seriously, just because you don’t personally like something, doesn’t mean it isn’t good. The Beatles are objectively good regardless of opinion
I have to admit to being sick to death of them I never wish to hear them again in my life having Livepudlian parents(who me the band twice and some members alone),having been in 3 Beatles tribute bands( one ruthless scene that is the worst) but even I a longtime songwriter will never say they were rubbish ever!
Lou Reed was garbage!
true dat
It’s a cult!
He was trolling, he learnt from Warhol.
Lou hates my record collection. 😔
For a master of pretentiousness Lou sure liked to call others pretentious. He also sounds bipolar.
Well Speed and Junk can have that 'two gear personality' effect also
Still brilliant.
@@stealthsadhu306 No.
So? Is bipolar an insult now? You're low.
@@gretagarbeige Not an insult just a probable cause of his extremely strange behaviour. Is being "Low" now an insult ? David Bowie was "Low" in fact, so much so that he named an album after it. Have a nice day.
Lou Reed took notes early on observing Andy Warhol's responses to questions reporters would ask about his art.
No way.. Warhol had total control of the interview. Lou reed was always stressed out unless the interviewer was another musician or artist of some sort. His attitude was influenced by his stress level. Reed felt powerless with reporters because they burned him in sth 1960s so his stress level ruined him with them when they were friendly with him and had better intentions.
Warhol's genius might have really just been how he talked to the press. His art was never as good as his p.r. abilities.
Reed was always a mess.
I remember seeing Lou Reed standing in the wings at the Apollo in Glasgow (1978) when Bowie made his 'comeback' after he supposedly retired when 'The Spiders from Mars' broke-up - and by the looks of it, he enjoyed himself just as much as the audience enjoyed it!. It WAS a superb concert !
A lot of those old interviews with various musicians had them trashing each other for fun, and winking after they tried their latest put-down lines. Actually, they respected each other as musicians. As you say in the beginning of this video, endless strings of interviews became like a game.
Yep. I remember being at a Tull concert where Anderson was trashing the Stones. Obviously with a wink and a nod so subtle no one really got it. In reality, Ian said the Stones, Zeppelin, and Mountain were his fave bands.
I adore mind readers.
Lou Reed was just a crank who got easily annoyed, sometimes with his own fans. Hell sometimes with his own creations.
But I’d say there were some musicians from that time who genuinely didn’t like each other, or didn’t respect some other’s musicianship.
Original viral trolling.
He might have been a cranky character but whats important is his music,which was really good.
Lou was a speed freak, it tends to jangle the nerves 👍😊
Yeah,
also sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions,
(they always write themselves out of the situations they report on. Becoming invisible in the narrative to the readers)
- Sometimes I think the guy being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
I’m guess the next reply is what you mean. Dude wound up tighter than a top.
@@fuzzybutkus8970 oh yes 👍
Reed was jealous of how good Jim Morrison's voice was..
I think it had more to due with Nico's worship of Morrison.
Jerry Garcia had something to say about Jim Morrison
@@timcarey1285 ....And that was?...
@Lengsel7 Jerry thought Jim was a phony, copied his moves from mick jagger, and the band played like a lounge act live
Thanks. Showed an incredible list of my all time favorite musicians to include Lou Reed and everyone he didn’t like.
FZ dedicated an LP to Lou, it was called "Shut Up and Play Yer Guitar.
he meant strum yr guitar lr.
I had a friend in HS in the early 70's who was very excited to see Lou Reed live. Lou came out and couldn't stand he was so drunk. He sat on the stage edge and just mumbled.
Sounds about like Hank Jr. in the 80's, haha!
Reed was simply insecure and jealous of other artists whom he felt were competition for him, artists who had ambition to do more than 2 minute pop ditties, as he saw himself as "the artist" of pop music. Reed wrote a handful of good songs, but overall I found nothing of interest in his work. (I was not a big fan of Zappa, actually, but he certainly produced work of greater ambition and accomplishment than most of Reed's output.)
I didnt 'get'Lous songs....nihilist? sarcastic? a good band leader n front man...not much of a singer / guitarist, obviously.
@@kevinjoseph517 Nihilist? Sarcastic? Certainly! And more, if you dig through his body of work. I was never captivated by him, so I have not heard most of his output.
I absolutely love most Lou Reed's solo albums, and his nasty lyrics, but compared to everyone who he trolled, I do think he had somewhat of an issue creating "concept" albums outside the theme of "street politics".
lol “jealous” is the weakest defense when someone gives an honest opinion.
Especially when Lou is arguably better than all these people.
I personally think he is.
This is an awful video: 1) Zappa was responsible for delaying The Velvets' first album' release from the spring of '66 to October '67: he pestered Verve (both The Velvets and The Mothers Of Invention were on Verve Records) not to promote The Velvets because they had Andy Warhol, among other things. 2) Reed once played Lennon's Mother and there are Velvets' bootlegs where they play Day Tripper. 3) Reed played an acoustic show with just Pete Townshend a few years before passing. 4) Reed disliked The Doors simply because Nico liked Jim Morrison of whom he was jealous (Nico told me). 5) At one point in 1974 there was talk about The Velvets re-uniting with John Cale, Nico & Roxy Music's Brian Eno who was a huge Velvet Underground fan. The people who make these videos don't know what they're talking about; I bet this guy wasn't even around in the 1970s... 🙄
Lou Reed hated everything when he ran out of... H
Anyone can bash more popular bands. Keep in mind this is when everyone had chops and were pushing boundaries. These weren’t “pretty” kids and auto tune. They were all real musicians. Not liking the Beatles is just silliness and being petty. I’m not a fan of the Doors but they had their place. Bashing The Who and Townsend? I guess if you are going to be a jerk you might as well aim high.
Miserable Lou seems like he was jealous of anybody who was more popular, successful or respected than him; which was a lot of people we consider greats.
To be fair, the Beatles are overrated. A great band, but overrated.
He softened so much in his later years
Roxy Music was amazing! One of the best groups ever!
Hands down without a doubt.
Those first 4 records especially are pure innovation, musical prowess, humor, style & magic.
Also that he called Zappa "untalented" is a bit much.
To say the same about Pete Townsend is just beyond the pale.
I have over 14 albums and 6 Roxy andBryan cds. All pretty decent.
Lou Reed's brain was fried
I think Lou is trolling, a lot of these responses were to idiot reporters, he was likely intoxicated at times, although some of these statements had truth in them
I agree, and it’s no secret he did not like interviewers
Yeah,
also sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions,
(they always write themselves out of the situations they report on. Becoming invisible in the narrative to the readers)
- Sometimes I think the guy being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
Yeah and remember when drunk most people speak the truth as they can't hold back!
ok I was hoping to hear Lou Reed talk.
I am a huge fan of Lou's solo and the Velvets music. I am also a a huge Zappa fan. Seen both of them live a handful of times each. I don't care for the Beatles, went through my Who phaze. At the end of the day, who the hell cares what Lou likes or dislikes. Think for yourself! If you like a band cool, if you don't, cool again. If anyone remembers the old magazine articles back in the day they did this "I don't like this band" shit all the time. Jerry Garcia, supposedly hated the Doors. Aerosmith disliked Queen. At the end of the day all this "I like this band, I hate this band" was just bullshit to sell magazines. By the way, I like Captain Beefheart and hate the Ramones.
Pete Townshed is a little overrated. It was The Ox and Keith Moon that made The Who so great imo.
@@RMTmusic1-mv1jh Keith Moon taught Joe Walsh how to party like a rockstar, who in turn taught the comedian, John Belushi, how to party to such an extreme.
Ramones were crap
I can't really dislike Lou. Transformers is one of those albums that doesn't have a single bad song. David Bowie saw a lot of talent in Lou and wanted to help him. That's why he produced Transformer. Along with Mick Ronson. Imagine if it had produced Lou's entire career. It would be impressive.
What I'm curious about is Lou's opinion on Marc Bolan and T. Rex. Bolan and Reed occupied some of the same ground musically, both were Jewish, and they even somewhat resembled each other physically. There are photos of Bolan at around 20 or 21 where he could pass for Lou. It's hard to imagine Lou NOT being impressed by "Bang a Gong."
You mean "Get it on" of course (as rechristened for the delicate US public).
"Both were Jewish" Funny how nobody will call you antisemitic for saying that, but if you were to say the same about Jeffrey Epstein, Harvey Weinstein, Mark Zuckerberg, Vladimir Lenin, or Karl Marx for example then somehow that's different...
@@user-ei9ns9hq6b Ah, as Dave Chappelle said in his SNL monologue: "....ah, but when it's a group of "insert their name" it's just a coincidence." We're only allowed to refer to them collectively in the positive, all while they can negatively collectivize every other damn group, and especially Whites. We need to end that shit ASAP.
What does them being Jewish have to do with anything? Nothing. Lou Reed wasn’t religious at all. I don’t know about Bolan.
@@5tar5zJewish is an ethnicity as well as a religion. At least half of Israel is made up of secular Jews.
Any artist who calls the Beatles garbage,ain't much to think about, I heard this guy's name , maybe one song or 2 , Frank Zappa was a genius, this dude was a hypocrite, it ain't like he wrote the best stuff.
We're all entitled to our opinion and I respect yours, but let's face it, if someone judges The Beatles on their worst work or by the bulk of their solo careers they won't be deeply impressed. So unless you've heard Reed's best work from his professional prime, you may very well not be in a position to judge his merit. I don't mean to come across as hostile, though.
his debut album was called lou reed. transformers came later
The video said that. 'Eponymous' basically means self titled [referring to his first solo record]; it also said 'Transformer' was the more successful follow-up. ;o)
yeah dummy pay attention
was soundwave a guest musician on the “transformers” album
I like Lou Reed and like or love the music of these artists he dissed. It's all good.
he would often say stuff to piss people off, he probably was joking when talking about half of these
We just don't let Lou Reed (or anyone else) choose our music for us. Frank Zappa? Come on, Lou.
Zappa? Crappa.
quite frankly, could care less what Lou Reed liked or disliked.
😂 The grumpiest guy ever...
Metallica and Lou Reed together, I mean, that's the WORST F@CKING SH!T ever spewed out from a record factory!
way back in the 80s a couple buddies and myself were casting for a singer for a New Wave band..... I recall more then one came in and when asked who they sounded like they said (more then one said this LOL) I don't know, maybe Lou Reed.....Oh?.....you can't sing at all is what you are saying.... ? The fact is, Lou Reed would have to practice to have a voice for rap.... LOL
I think he was just manic depressive or bipolar or something. Guy hated everything
It makes me 💢 sort of disappointed that Lou says such things... 🌬️ because it probably is a sign of jealousy... You have to be pretentious to accuse so many original major artists to be... pretentious 😮 or rubbish.. There are enough second grade artists that are praised... Why destroy the good ones?😁
If he based his entire view of The Who on Tommy, okay, whatever. But he was wrong about them. Pete Townshend is one of the best songwriters in Rock history, and his post-Tommy stuff speaks for itself.
You are right Lou couldn't hold a candle to Townsend who was an excellent rhythm guitarist and just an average Lead player BUT man he write them NO doubt at all and yes they were amazing live in their prime!
What the heck are you talking about? It takes a real special fool to speak so authoritatively and incorrectly
He definitely had a few cracks in his soul. That made it all so much sweeter ,when he said or did something kind or loving . But in real life that's enabling abuse of your fans and your loved ones ... He seriously needed to be kicked to the curb for his issues . He was a genius, with a shitty attitude .
Cant say i agree with his take on some of the bands esp.the doors but reed was definitely not an overrated hack.the velvet underground were unique and way ahead of their time in my book.
What book is that. Reed couldn't sing to start with or play.
most of his problems were jealousy. Zappa and him were rivals .. their personalities clashed because they were both wrong men? He obviously hates the people he loves.
@@MicahMicahel Zappa was a class musician. Reed became friend with Bowie who helped him.
The Underground were proto-punk, but that’s not saying much concidering punk’s whole schtick is looking at a prog-rock band and doing the polar opposite. “Fuck peace and love, we’re REAL street people!” is easy to do when it’s the prevailing sentiment, but quickly loses it’s edge and becomes the mainstream itself
@@adamandsethdylantoo All the way to the Bank.
I believe Reed just liked to push people's buttons. He likely didn't believe half of what was coming out of his mouth. I can relate! ha ha ha
The man who lamented "You can't be Shakespeare, can't be Joyce so what is left instead" calling other pretentious is rich
"Taking a hit" would mean adverse effects on their career... The Who's career was never effected by words from Lou Reed.
True. Lou was a nobody by comparison. Just another smarmy, NY Jew.
How is Lou reed even known? He has the nerve to call The Who talentless?? Seriously? I've never heard anything he's done that gives any indication that Reed has the slightest bit of musical talent.
I agree with 3 out of 5, so I’ll exclude Roxy and The Doors. Lou loved provoking and hated journalists.
Sometimes with these 'aggro' interviews what we never see is the (oftentimes) annoying, self regarding journalist asking all the questions,
(they always write themselves out of the situations they report on.)
- Sometimes I think the person being interviewed is just ripping a band / whatever because they know the reporter is a smug fanboy of 'em, so it's a FU manoeuvre at them.
Actually both Reed and Cale were fans of Beatles. OK, Reed later denied it, as usual.
Sour grapes and jealousy.
Check out Reeds version of "solsbury hill.
It's funny , but Frank Zappa and Reed are my two Favourite artists , but Frank , was a Genius, The greatest composer of the 20th century , and Lou , the Poet , VALE Lou VALE FRANK . R
Knowing Lou Reed I’m surprised Velvet Underground or himself wasn’t one of his most hated bands.
Lou was under the influence of Warhol in those days. Hilarious.
Maybe why he didn't like Morrison given his history with Warhol.
He was an iconoclast, and thats okay, I think aside from all the seriously confrontational nature of what he said about these other bands (which im guessing that was by design) the principle of the criticism was valid. Putting anyone in pop music on a pedestal is the actions of people who know no better, that its all fucking subjective. Adn im with him on Zappa, and im not even old enough to have been around when he was popular, but listening to his music now, whats the big f*cking deal. Like most jazz, just mostly self-indulgent bullshit
01:40 Reed can't say that Zappa liked ("admired") him without Zappa's permission. The story gets funny from the beginning. 02:25 Oh, question: What did Lou Reed do that was other than "Sweet Jane"?
The dude could rock a rhythm guitar.
Vicious
Lou hit groups with a flower
Lou do it every hour
Oh, baby, Lou's so vicious
Vicious
Lou wanted to hit groups with a schtick
But all he's got's a guitar pick
Huh, baby, Lou's so vicious
LOU REED WAS SO JEALOUS OF OTHER ARTISTS !!!!!!!!
"Hey Oyving! Take a walk on the kosher side".
True New Yorker - everything has to either be the absolute best or the absolute worse, as long as they can give their opinion in a forceful way that makes them sound like some sort of authority, no matter how stupid or uninformed they are. (And willing to completely reverse their position when the wind of popular opinion blows the other way.)
Unlike his music, Lou's opinions aren't worth listening to.
He moved in with his parents in Long Island after the Velvet Underground 😀 When in the band took side gigs with John Cale playing Batman and Robin at kid’s birthday parties. Sorry to burst your bubble. He was a junkie too. A totally mess of an immature person.
Lou made adult music thats all folk❤❤❤
Lou Reed needed professional help
He couldn't stand KISS but ended up working with them...thanks to Mr. Bob Ezrin
Reed's take on the Doors was off base. The Doors made perhaps the darkest trippiest music of the era. They didn't have that bubblegum pop sound that many of their peers did and bands like the Byrds criticised them for that. So they didn't really fit in with the other bands of the era or that whole hippy movement so much. Maybe Reed was just jealous they were able to achieve a much more macabre, grittier vibe than the Velvets could. Not to mention Morrison's prowess as poet far exceeded Reed's poetic aspirations so there was that to contend with as well. And I say this as someone who still listens to both bands.
Nah man, the Doors suck.
Bro doors were making Touch me Babe, and light my fire. These are pretty basic. They did have some good stuff too obviously but VU was darker
@@nickpagano7134 Well, the reason that I don't like the Doors is because I feel like they are very boring and mainstream; Their music sounds good but it lacks substance.
@@xXXBongToker420xXx yeah I was agreeing with you
The Doors were making darker and more trippy music than White Light White Heat. Not nearly.Jim Morrison more poetry and Lou Reed more like prose, both some of the best. Agree that Lou was jealous. Morrison was was more of a dynamic performer. I am a huge fan of both bands.
Lou was just trolling at least in the case of Roxy Music and Frank Zappa. Didn't he do a great eoulogy or HOF induction for FZ? edit: yeah 1995 R&R HOF FZ induction.
I respect how hard he worked, the rep he made for himself.
I can't stand any of his music. And I am grateful I never had to endure his presumptuous presence.
He doesn't like The Who? That sucks. I like The Who WAY more than I like VU. But I guess I have to be respectful since this is Lou Reed's video. Plus Rock and Roll is one of my all-time favorite songs. And why is Pete Townsend philosophically boring, wtf is that supposed that mean? You mean he can't actually see for miles and miles? I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear that....
if you don't like The Who you don't like R& R. I've had people tell me they don't like Dylan, The Beatles or Elvis Costello. That tells me the person has no taste whatsoever.
i think i heard him say he really likes the who in an interview from the 80s. I think he said they where the only good British band or something like that. He does say alot of things out of spite but i think that maybe he got alot more musically open as he got older. Obviously he was a contrarian too
Here! Here! I can't bear to hear their wretched rubbish.
The Who are good but I mean, the Velvet Underground is phenominal, way better than any of that trash
Chances are, if Lou Reed hated your band, it was one of the greatest bands ever.
He is right about Zappa his music was nauseatingly awful
Lou then inducted Zappa into the R/R hall of fame! Paradoxical games! Obfuscation defined lol
Some of it was, but, some was phenomenal!
Mick Ronson produced Transformer.
He went on stage with Tom Petty , Jeff Lynne , and Eric Clapton and Bob Dylan and afterwards he said I cringed at first but I actually had fun with them.
No one gets press when they're sweet as cherry pie, Lou got each one of these acts attention. Even today it still sparks conversation. That said I kinda get sick of seeing contrived YT posts that amplify hate that really never was. The Beatles and Doors wrote about the exact same topic as Lou, The Beats and their art. Bowie is no slouch when it comes to reflecting the Beats art back to us either. It must be hard for those in the UK to understand the American Beat Literary Movement. Just guessing and assuming.
Yes! This piece of trash video is simply for clickbait. That's why this slug has only 2.2K subs and only 28 comments after more than 3 months. He probably wasn't even in the scene in this time! Video/uploader gets a big 👎!
Lou didn't like success.
Or at least pretended not to
Hmh, ... what probably lou reed´s wife, LYNN anderson was thinking about him during all the (strange?) common/connected years? Was he ever ready for her, or hated he the imagination to be ... ... ... ??
Lou Reed? Overrated nobody.😎
Reed wrote and performed some great music, but his public persona was embarrassingly infantile, like a 13-year-old desperate to impress. He had a point about Tommy though.
Lou did not know I walked out of one of his concerts. It was likely country & western music on drugs.
Who cares who he hated. I care what he loved.
I don't dislike the Velvets, but it's musically inferior to the bands it criticizes. Lou Reed has only two satisfactory albums. Transformer and New York. He was a pretentious and frustrated individual.
I understand fury to Zappa, Zappa himself was really pretentious…, I get why hate the Beatles, they’re so popular it’s distasteful, BUT HATING ENO ERA ROXY MUSIC is just beyond my comprehension.
I don't hate anyone, but I don't mind listening to the Beatles, for example. Childish for my taste.
the zappa thing was probably due to the verve records rivalry and verve's choosing to promote one over the other... just a guess at the root of that one, but obv lou was bitchy and tongue in cheek to great extents...
But Lou made sure he never faced Frank with that, one on one. He'd have lost...Frank could out-Lou Lou...
He hates every band with the singer better than him, I guess that would be all of them
Reed cant sing and cant play Guitar, so what qualifies him to criticize real musicians😎😎
So he was basically Noel Gallagher
I'm a big Reed fan but what a damaged human being.The last person that should have criticized anybody's playing.
I'm known a bit but not famous and been writing songs for 40 years. I know my stuff(on my other YT channel).I can say Lou Reed is the single most overrated musician if you can call him that in all of Alt Rock. He was more a spoken word poet ,he can't sing in key or hold a decent note, can barely strum more than a G, C ,and D and can't even speak/sing in time ,had a minimal amount of talent a person can have. He was known as one arrogant SOB and million of you fell for it.
Lou Reed's answer to questions depended on what drug he was on at the time...
I don't care who he hated because I really think the VU and him were over rated shite
Punk rock is full of spite and shit talking not unlike gangster rap.
@@neonfroot rap is far worse tho
Reed had a bummer journey.... a hick up...
truth endures. Face it, I like many, consider myself
a bud in a garden who opened slowly during
the changing rock evolution as life experience
evolved .We listeners adapted to real change
that fit the chronicles explaining our romantic
and political driven attitudes. Peace from the
West Coast.
BS. Cale wrote a song about Picasso, which was a hint for Reed.
Jonathan Richman wrote Pablo Picasso. And where did you get that the song is about Reed?
Or .......5 bands Lou Reed was Jealous of ...............
Lou was never yellow always right
Being weird, aloof and perpetually melancholy is not a music genre. Stick to the sound and the rest will take care of itself.
Who the hell cares what Reed thought?
"INDICTED" Zappa into the HOF? How about inducted? While many thnk Frank"s music was a crime, he was never charged. LOL.
This guy at some point seems to have hated everybody. Especially people far more talented than him. The Doors were much more musically adventurous than the Velvet Underground.
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Oh f*ck you they can barely write a good song; Velvet Underground, Lou Reed, all hits.
maybe Lou doesn't know that he's sucks too