That is freakin' brilliant. I recently did the apology tour to my family for inviting them all to my San Diego Temple wedding then asking them to wait outside but be happy to pose for pictures. My wife's family even traveled from the UK and mine drove 10 hours from northern CA. Of course I convinced myself I was doing the right thing but it sure caused a lot of damage and we were the subject of many conversations that we were not a part of sadly.
Nemo welcome back, i am a member of over fifty years, the church is not the same church as i joined as a child. Bad behaviour in my experience is being ignored, swept under the carpet. My husband at the time ( a member) left me had an affair and despite the district president knowing and the branch president nothing was done. When i asked why i was told " unless you were in the bedroom with them( a witness😮) he will lie. He is now living with the woman he left me for , his name has not been removed from church records. He believes that we will be reunited in the eternities 😮 i am struggling with this as i have been brought up to understand there are consequences for our actions.
I hope you free yourself with the help of those of us who have travelled through and out of the LDS church. I left at nearly 70 years old. It was not an easy road but I feel joyous and light. I embrace you from South Africa 🇿🇦❤
In the next life you could meet your true love . Watching next level soul with Alex Ferrari and finding a new path. Always a 2nd class citizen in LDS church and now I have learnt that we are all enough as we are part of God . Life reviews let us realise how are words have effected others . NDE demonstrate how way off all religions are .
He is misinformed. Just a spiteful man trying to screw even more hurt on you. We know one of the questions asked at the last day to get into heaven is to you as the female… “how did he treat you?” Also the spirit people on this earth who are your family will also take your side against him and it will be pretty bad for him I can tell you.
I’m an NZ ex member. I recognise some of the names spoken about. I’m glad more people are getting out. Hopefully this is the final straw that helps more leave the abusive lifestyle.
I was like you with not wanting to lose my religion. My Great great great grandfather joined in Essex. Then moved to be with the saints. Was hard to let go of my generations of Mormonism. I’m so glad to see a strong community and support for you. It gives others the same. Love the show and look forward to what’s next.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix Not really. He was actively trying to stay in it and renew his temple recommended which is how this situation became what it is in the first place.
@@strangeclouds7 appearances can be deceiving. Many in the Church are faking it. I'm not saying Douglas was faking it but his true intentions may never be known and his reasons for doing what he does are his own personal reasons.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix Regardless if people are faking it or not or whatever their intention is, if they're actively staying in the church for whatever reason they haven't escaped it yet have they?
After finding out that the church excommunicated you and how they did it, THAT broke my shelf (in tandem with the transgender policy that came out) and I removed my records. There has never been a place to question authority in the church. As a woman, I was so overlooked, I don’t think my bishopric ever thought I had the capacity to influence anyone. We are just women, after all. But I was just so heartbroken for you and how your leaders treated you just for asking questions. I can’t stay where I am not allowed to learn, and how can I learn if I am not permitted (or am too afraid) to ask questions.
@@ErinChen17 As a female widowed pensioner, my resignation caused not even a ripple! Nobody tried to persuade or cajole, I just flew out and up, up and away! Joyjoyjoy. 💓👋
I was a member of the Church of England and I was berated for learning from the scriptures, and questioning them, they stated that it was the vicars job, that he had a degree in religion and it was not allowed for me to do those studies and it was the vicars job to get me to heaven not mine…
The reason they’re cool teaching the newer generation more of the truth, but doing their best to keep it hidden from the older members is because we KNOW what we were taught. The “it’s always been like this” gaslighting doesn’t work on us because we were there! Like John Dehlin kept telling the Stick of Joseph boys - the church they’re still growing up in is VERY different from the one we grew up in.
So are you therefore saying that an eternal being has no new thoughts, new ways, and new insights perhaps… are you saying God can’t speed up processes? Say new things? Reveal new revelations perhaps?
@@simonthewelshmanthe modern church is mostly about removing doctrine. Remove polygamy, shorten the eternal temple ceremony from 6 hours to 90mins, shorten garments, etc.
I'm happy I found you guys. This is the community I think I needed. I don't hate the church but I found there too be something off with it as well. I grew up Mormon in AZ and UT and it's been a Stark compare and contrast I have always had a feeling that the church in Utah was less true or faithful than outside Utah. I Loved the church in my youth I never lost my faith in Christ and the gospel. Yet I see the cult-like abuse and lack of faith in Christ that the leaders of the church have. When they don't have faith enough to speak to God face to face yet I do that makes the church untrue.
While this is a rare scenario… They changed the dye they use for the garments several months ago. They gave me a skin infection that progressed to sepsis - which is a life threat. Their solution was to special order some in different fabric at twice the price. No thank you.
It’s just the absolute lack of critical thinking for me. My husband is a physicist so clearly he has a brain. But when I try to discuss topics like the change in garments he just goes right to the company line. He’ll look up the church’s statement on it and then that’s good enough for him. How? How is that good enough? How can he and others put up with the blindsiding and the gaslighting? We have lived through years of being told what the modesty standards are and in fact been shamed into keeping them. Oh but now the church is just throwing all that out the window. And it’s considered a “blessing”…..wtf?
I gathered at a Unitarian Universalist church in the DC area after leaving the LDS Church. At the end of the first introductory one-on-one lesson about general UU policy and worldview, the energy in the room changed. The instructors I was meeting with solemnly disclosed that a previous minister had been found to have plagiarized some sermons and had been released by the congregation - just in case that affected my desire to join. It took a bit for me to metabolize (1) how easy it is for a community to disclose wrongdoing in their past with integrity and (2) how seriously the UUs were taking plagiarism while the LDS church, since its conception, has doggedly hidden predation, mismanagement, fraud and worse. A LDS organization in that area had just as recently as the UU minister's infraction enabled a church leader (chosen by priesthood discernment) to sexually assault several children. I can't imagine that any new converts EVER heard about that.
When you prove the church is false or failing, you have only done half the job -- the easy part. The next part is hard. It requires you to search out the truth for yourself in its purity. No hand-holders. No baby-sitters. No gate-keepers. No gas-lighters.
A cool piece of info on the Heaven’s Helpline podcast. NZ on Air is 100% government funding. They are an autonomous crown entity (our broadcasting commission) so basically the same as the BBC (just don’t have any of their own networks). So yes all New Zealand taxpayers funded the production of the podcast 😂
I don't think garment length matters as much as fiber content here in the desert. Having a little more breathing room for your armpits isn't going to stop all the yeast infections you get from plastic underwear
I have seen many many times on construction sites in St George UT where Mexicans are wearing full hoody sweaters and long pants in 100 degree weather. They say that it helps insulate them from the heat. Berber’s in North Africa also wear many layers, though they seem to wear a more breathable material.
@@bmo5082 I live somewhere 115° is pretty common and can't afford air conditioning/don't have a car- linen and cotton long sleeves and pants and a head covering is definitely the way to go. It keeps the sun off of your skin and wicks your sweat away while letting fresh air in. However if you wear polyester you will basically broil yourself and it traps the smell/bacterias as well. That's why there is such a bad problem with infections with polyester underwear, but it's cheap so that's what the church uses¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hallo nemo, bin schon lange raus aus der firma. je mehr ich höre, desto mehr wundere ich mich, was für einen mist mir erzählt und ich geglaubt habe. froh das nicht mehr aufarbeiten zu müssen. liebe grüsse aus deutschland
Im a believer of gnosticism after my study of christianity. Any religion willing to destroy, kill and try to eradicate the teachings of another group, is a group i do not want any part of.
I think the “tank top” garments is such a small change. Bottom garments tend to be a bigger issue I believe. Women going through pregnancy, periods and menopause all that extra material is honestly nonsense. The church should keep the garments for temple attendance or something like that. Church is out of touch…
"We cannot have an apostolic Gospel which remains foundational and timeless at the point we choose and then remove it at any point of inconvenience to us. - Alistair Begg "Principles and Patterns of Submission" (to civil authorities), Part One
Due to the mindset of top church leaders, and the excommunication of Nemo, I would suggest that given Nemo is a quite well known figure, the leaders as high up as Oaks ,who despise Nemo for catching Oaks out in his lies, would've used Nemo's exco as a warning to others to not ask questions, or especially to expose the top leaders when they blatantly lie. It is my opinion that Dalin Oaks is a narcisisstic sociopath.
I sent a letter in to support you. I've heard nothing from my ward or stake leaders. But I also haven't attended in years, so I would have been surprised if they did try to call me in.
So I noticed I got My internet surveillanced shortly after beginning to interact with Nemo and others on the exmo platforms. I am beginning to think this is no coincidence
I think a good point is that lots of women develop yeast infections from wearing garments to much. So having something like a skirt version allows to avoid that situation
So women with health issues should just be expected to wear skirts or dresses for the rest of their lives? 😆 This seems like a big step backwards to me rather than forward. How about a breathable option that could be worn with shorts or pants?
So women with health issues just have to wear dresses and skirts for the rest of their lives? 😆 That seems like a step backwards for feminism and a step forward for patriarchy for me. How about breathable garments than can be worn with any clothing? Women should be able to wear pants or shorts if they want to without risking an infection!
I got a question, don't know were to start. A simple one that will answer a lot of my questions from the new updates of the temple. When Jesus said to love one Another, he really knew what he was saying, love is what eliminates fear. Why did the temple took the word "LOVE" away from the endowment ceremony and Marriage also LOVE WAS taken out. That's all..thank nemo and keep going and don't give up
@CarlitozGut - This is the wrong crowd to ask about the Temple. Most people here, including Nemo, haven't been to a temple for years. A few of us have but you should ask your Bishop about your Temple questions.
@@tuesdaycurtis163 The universe is made up of Love and Intelligence, according to many people who have near death experiences. There is no organized religion there. That is a construct of this realm.
It's important to remember that understanding and seeking the truth are vital, and ignorance should not be a reason for leaving the church. Information is accessible to everyone; if you wish to learn, I encourage you to utilize the church's resources. Reflect on the reasons you joined the church-the manifestations of the Holy Spirit played a significant role in your conversion.
just a minute here good people this might be an opportunity to make you aware of a large movement that you may or may not heard of referring to polygamy. the church is narrative is that Joseph committed polygamy but that is not what the evidence says, the evidence says that Joseph did not I did repeat did not commit polygamy! it was something brought in by Brigham Young and his cartel. Brigham Young already had several women on the side and after Joseph‘s murder he was able to then tell everybody that it was a revelation which he manufactured and changed so I’m going to repeat it Joseph and sister Emma did not commit polygamy. It was brought into the church by Brigham Young. the LDS church have gone out of their way to hide the evidence and theirevidence is flimsy at best.
Omg, the email sent me back to 27B/6 and the his story 'Justin's Floodlight'. The tone of practically relaying information according to a set reality, even though that is not at all what is going on, nor the entire picture. The level of sarcasm, parody, narrative, and so on is freaking brilliant, entertaining, and very very clever at making a point. 😂😍
I have a request for Nemo. First of all, I need to acknowledge that I have only watched a few dozen episodes of Nemo, so what I am requesting may already exist. I would like to see a show where Nemo discusses what he likes about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and with which he agrees. All of the shows I have seen discuss things with which he disagrees, does not like or accuses the church of doing or saying. I understand that you want to remain a member, I believe you like or agree with something within the church. I believe if you want to retain credibility, you should portray a balanced response. Thanks!
My opinion is it is brilliant they made garments sleveless but they could be a bit more sleeveless but I dont really have to worry about that since I don't wear them anyway
A covenant made with free will and choice, knowledge given beforehand, agency allowed, and now we see regret for those choices given… so now you know where you and God stand after you admit the breaking of those promises made. Interesting indeed…
@@simonthewelshman you are not to judge me I have my reasons only God understands you don't know me and I'm actually starting to go to a different Christian church lately
Peter, and perhaps Nemo, should watch Ward Radio's latest: The Church in the US Will Fail... Unless You do This! Would love to hear both of your takes on it as it is right up Peter's alley (and Nemo's too).
Just listened to episode 4 Marquita, it makes me so furious and sad that those children were left defenceless to be abused over and over again for years. How do those people sleep at night?
49:50, There was and still is a lot of abuse going on within the New Zealand LDS Comunity. The reason you may not hear about it very often is this... comunity leaders struggle to keep it quiet within their families, its shameful to share that information outside the family when your family is Polynesian and that is a fact. I had a Samoan girlfriend once and she was the worst, & the most unfaithful GF I had ever been involved in and her Mormon family were the most abusive family I had ever encountered, and apart from being Mormon they were totally apostate. They were always saying the same things to my face, "You Pakia, Pakias no Good, Theys not go the Samoan Way"
1:07: I strongly agree with the idea of wearing whatever underwear you like and attaching the symbols. At the same time, strongly disagree with the built-in bra idea - it's hard enough to find and choose bra brands that fit nicely among all those many that are on the market, unified style/size "LDS" bras would fit only few lucky ones.
I believe the new stake president is Samoan, they are straight down the line and normally don't question. The one before him was an Australian. I lived next door to him in Sydney when he was a young lad. Sad, that he is still sucked in as I was😢
Does accent does Nemo speak. As a linguistic American, I know that the UK we’re once separate countries, Nemo’s particular ‘swing’ has it’s unusual sound
Dallin Oaks wanted an electric shock pad in the male bottoms linked to heart rate but then received revelation not to so he wouldnt get more emails from nemo....lol
Holy shit dude... Brutal ass blows... I am sitting here in shock how clever your attacks are. I support your movement 100 percent as a former member and outcast. Mesa Arizona, USA I am currently waiting on lawsuit disbursement forms to arrive any day
No I didn’t get called into talk to any leader. And I just resigned so I don’t expect to. (This isn’t my account, happen to be on a family member iPad as watching this)
The ojibwe nation just let people know they are building 2 temples in Missouri. They met with all the breakaway groups of the church (our leaders were the only ones that didn't attend). Worth looking into
Nemo, let me announce to you what's going to happen. The Church will continue. It will fulfill its mission to the world. You will fall by the wayside and be forgotten. So sad!
They also don’t capitalize traditionally capitalized letters, as well as the opening sounds like someone trying to replicate cadence tone without the same language. It reminds me of when Hillary Clinton’s campaign wrote a letter to Mormons in Utah, with the person who was not apart of the in group trying to use language to appeal to Utahns.
I'm attending the Catholic Church now. So my nevermo wife and I can get married in her country Peru. This time in a church and not by the government. She wants to have her church wedding in the Catholic cathedral in downtown Lima Peru. They talk more about Jesus Christ and God than the Mormon cult ever did and worship false prophets!
@Thomas123-c1v Yet I went to the Mormon cult sacrament meeting this past Easter because my mom was over the choir and to support her. Every talk was about the Mormon cult profit and how important it was to follow the Mormon cult profit to gain salvation. The profit mentioned more in conference than Christ was. The Mormon cult worships the false profit more than Christ. He is a known liar and covers up children being molested by pedophiles like Joe Smith was. I guess follow the profit he leads the way.
Oh the reason why it does mention Christ. Joe Smith used the view of the Hebrews as a guideline for the book of Mormon which is not historical. Then he copied the Bible like Isaiah was not completed until after they returned from Babylon so how was it on the brass plates? Because like the book of Abraham Joe Smith copied it. Joe Smith used religion to support his pedephilia and sexual perversions and nothing more. The Mormon cult leaders are fraudsters and using now to let pedephilia into the Mormon cult now. But have fun wearing your Jesus jammies plastered with masonic symbols sewn in them.
U folks make me laugh. There is no “grip”. You’re either a believer from an experience with hg or…u decided you wanted to live a different way and don’t have the guts to admit that, just blame it on someone else. Righttttt
Thank you, team Britain! Speaking of, what are your thoughts on Kearon's new IG post where he shared his 'don't you dare' message to the missionaries at the MTC in the Philippines (if I'm not mistaken about the location). That was if he got to read a text prepared by Holland, just with his friendly demeanor. Yuck! Especially since he didn't get a chance to serve a mission as a teenager.
All new top garments come with instruction not to wash but dry clean only. Washing will destroy the gps tracking chip installed by the strengthening church members commitee. Uncle Jeffrey H needs to know your whereabouts at all times. 🤣.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix Yup! 15 is just as bad but to say several months shy of 15-shows that the church cannot bring itself to actually say 14. It was Reprehensible of JS. He groomed and spiritually manipulated and abused his power on the poor girl. And disgustingly did same to many other girls and women. I’m over the churches apologetics of Joe Smith. A Predator thru and thru. When I was growing up I used to think Emma was the luckiest most blessed woman on the planet for being joes wife. Put him up on that glorified pedestal and prayed my dad could be that righteous. What a joke! My father was a hypocrite but his hypocrisy was nothing compared to that of JS.
We need a "Sorry for what I said when I was Mormon" shirt.
Cults to consciousness (another exmo run channel) has a "sorry for what I said when I was in a cult" shirt. Basically the same thing lol
Yeah….cults make you say and do awful things….😩
Sorry for what I said and did when I was in the one true cult.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix no one cares that you're gay.
That is freakin' brilliant. I recently did the apology tour to my family for inviting them all to my San Diego Temple wedding then asking them to wait outside but be happy to pose for pictures. My wife's family even traveled from the UK and mine drove 10 hours from northern CA. Of course I convinced myself I was doing the right thing but it sure caused a lot of damage and we were the subject of many conversations that we were not a part of sadly.
Nemo welcome to the exmo side. Its better over here. Less guilt and more self love. I would never go back.
Plus a 10% raise and Sundays off, as the joke/not-a-joke goes!
Quiet pretender.
He’s been here for awhile
@jonipitcher7185 you were never there puppet.
You must be new here, welcome!
Nemo welcome back, i am a member of over fifty years, the church is not the same church as i joined as a child. Bad behaviour in my experience is being ignored, swept under the carpet. My husband at the time ( a member) left me had an affair and despite the district president knowing and the branch president nothing was done. When i asked why i was told " unless you were in the bedroom with them( a witness😮) he will lie. He is now living with the woman he left me for , his name has not been removed from church records. He believes that we will be reunited in the eternities 😮 i am struggling with this as i have been brought up to understand there are consequences for our actions.
I hope you free yourself with the help of those of us who have travelled through and out of the LDS church. I left at nearly 70 years old. It was not an easy road but I feel joyous and light. I embrace you from South Africa 🇿🇦❤
Welcome back?
In the next life you could meet your true love . Watching next level soul with Alex Ferrari and finding a new path. Always a 2nd class citizen in LDS church and now I have learnt that we are all enough as we are part of God . Life reviews let us realise how are words have effected others . NDE demonstrate how way off all religions are .
He is misinformed. Just a spiteful man trying to screw even more hurt on you. We know one of the questions asked at the last day to get into heaven is to you as the female… “how did he treat you?” Also the spirit people on this earth who are your family will also take your side against him and it will be pretty bad for him I can tell you.
Liar.
I’m an NZ ex member. I recognise some of the names spoken about. I’m glad more people are getting out. Hopefully this is the final straw that helps more leave the abusive lifestyle.
I was like you with not wanting to lose my religion.
My Great great great grandfather joined in Essex. Then moved to be with the saints. Was hard to let go of my generations of Mormonism.
I’m so glad to see a strong community and support for you. It gives others the same.
Love the show and look forward to what’s next.
Nemo, congratulations on escaping the false gospel of Mormonism ❤
He escaped it years ago.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix Not really. He was actively trying to stay in it and renew his temple recommended which is how this situation became what it is in the first place.
@@strangeclouds7 appearances can be deceiving. Many in the Church are faking it. I'm not saying Douglas was faking it but his true intentions may never be known and his reasons for doing what he does are his own personal reasons.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix unofficially, now officially
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix Regardless if people are faking it or not or whatever their intention is, if they're actively staying in the church for whatever reason they haven't escaped it yet have they?
After finding out that the church excommunicated you and how they did it, THAT broke my shelf (in tandem with the transgender policy that came out) and I removed my records. There has never been a place to question authority in the church. As a woman, I was so overlooked, I don’t think my bishopric ever thought I had the capacity to influence anyone. We are just women, after all. But I was just so heartbroken for you and how your leaders treated you just for asking questions. I can’t stay where I am not allowed to learn, and how can I learn if I am not permitted (or am too afraid) to ask questions.
Good on you, my shelf broke during COVID I saw the hypocrisy, lies and fear that they put into the members.
@@ErinChen17 As a female widowed pensioner, my resignation caused not even a ripple! Nobody tried to persuade or cajole, I just flew out and up, up and away! Joyjoyjoy. 💓👋
@@personofinterest8731 Good for you!
I was a member of the Church of England and I was berated for learning from the scriptures, and questioning them, they stated that it was the vicars job, that he had a degree in religion and it was not allowed for me to do those studies and it was the vicars job to get me to heaven not mine…
Quiet pretender.
The reason they’re cool teaching the newer generation more of the truth, but doing their best to keep it hidden from the older members is because we KNOW what we were taught.
The “it’s always been like this” gaslighting doesn’t work on us because we were there!
Like John Dehlin kept telling the Stick of Joseph boys - the church they’re still growing up in is VERY different from the one we grew up in.
So are you therefore saying that an eternal being has no new thoughts, new ways, and new insights perhaps… are you saying God can’t speed up processes? Say new things? Reveal new revelations perhaps?
@@simonthewelshmanthe modern church is mostly about removing doctrine. Remove polygamy, shorten the eternal temple ceremony from 6 hours to 90mins, shorten garments, etc.
What tipped me off about this letter was the fact that the church logo is an older version and not the latest.
It's never Sunday until we have our visit from Nemo!! 🎉 ❤ looking great Nemo!
I'm happy I found you guys. This is the community I think I needed. I don't hate the church but I found there too be something off with it as well. I grew up Mormon in AZ and UT and it's been a Stark compare and contrast I have always had a feeling that the church in Utah was less true or faithful than outside Utah. I Loved the church in my youth I never lost my faith in Christ and the gospel. Yet I see the cult-like abuse and lack of faith in Christ that the leaders of the church have. When they don't have faith enough to speak to God face to face yet I do that makes the church untrue.
Yeah most members in Utah are extremely fake
And the ones who really believe and are actually worthy are extremely sheltered and naive.
You speak to God face to face?
@@strangeclouds7 no the ones who truly believe leave. The ones who stay are sheltered in abuse.
@@TyleRMatin6532 maybe 🤔 but the real question is do you and if you don't why not?
While this is a rare scenario… They changed the dye they use for the garments several months ago. They gave me a skin infection that progressed to sepsis - which is a life threat. Their solution was to special order some in different fabric at twice the price. No thank you.
Cheap garment inducing necrosis….terrible stuff…😡
Good! You stopped giving your hard earned money to a clothing business that has shoddy goods.
It's made in China, isn't it?
@@charlesmendeley9823 I'd bet they are. This needs to be investigated.
@@a.kathleenrussell8841 liar.
It’s just the absolute lack of critical thinking for me. My husband is a physicist so clearly he has a brain. But when I try to discuss topics like the change in garments he just goes right to the company line. He’ll look up the church’s statement on it and then that’s good enough for him. How? How is that good enough? How can he and others put up with the blindsiding and the gaslighting? We have lived through years of being told what the modesty standards are and in fact been shamed into keeping them. Oh but now the church is just throwing all that out the window. And it’s considered a “blessing”…..wtf?
Oaks has famously said that the church doesn't apologize for past events, that “we look forward and not backward.”
"Unburdened by what has been."
-- VP Cackles
And???? Your point??? Any response church leaders make about church history will not suffice for people like you.
Oaks and M itt R omney are the head of the Chicago Mormon 'aifam", spelled backwards so YT won't zap this post.
@charlybucket2691 I'd be happy if they Apologized for the priesthood ban
@burner27 And what about the things you should apologize for, but haven't?
Yes Nemo, the legal counsel from the church claiming ot should be ok to lie about religion, etc, is absurd
The case was dismissed earlier this year, though
@WasatchBDC darn.
I gathered at a Unitarian Universalist church in the DC area after leaving the LDS Church. At the end of the first introductory one-on-one lesson about general UU policy and worldview, the energy in the room changed. The instructors I was meeting with solemnly disclosed that a previous minister had been found to have plagiarized some sermons and had been released by the congregation - just in case that affected my desire to join.
It took a bit for me to metabolize (1) how easy it is for a community to disclose wrongdoing in their past with integrity and (2) how seriously the UUs were taking plagiarism while the LDS church, since its conception, has doggedly hidden predation, mismanagement, fraud and worse. A LDS organization in that area had just as recently as the UU minister's infraction enabled a church leader (chosen by priesthood discernment) to sexually assault several children. I can't imagine that any new converts EVER heard about that.
When you prove the church is false or failing, you have only done half the job -- the easy part. The next part is hard. It requires you to search out the truth for yourself in its purity. No hand-holders. No baby-sitters. No gate-keepers. No gas-lighters.
When Peter said "a very rare stake" my mind went to a nice rib eye....or even sirloin...
@@BlunderWoman A nice Porterhouse, say medium-rare, with cross-hatched grill marks. Sautéed mushrooms and baked potato, on the side.
Yes, losing their grip indeed.
There is no chance, no destiny, no fate, that can circumvent, or hinder or control the firm resolve of a determined soul.
Ella Wheeler Wilcox
Nemo, never forget you have God on your side! The church cannot take that away from you.😊
A cool piece of info on the Heaven’s Helpline podcast. NZ on Air is 100% government funding. They are an autonomous crown entity (our broadcasting commission) so basically the same as the BBC (just don’t have any of their own networks). So yes all New Zealand taxpayers funded the production of the podcast 😂
@@madeleinefoley9421 how can we watch or listen? What platform?
@@mikespage0123 ... Google "Heavens Helpline" , there's a number of podcasts available there.
Welcome back Nemo-great episode crew!
I don't think garment length matters as much as fiber content here in the desert. Having a little more breathing room for your armpits isn't going to stop all the yeast infections you get from plastic underwear
A 2nd under layer is suffocating in the heat & humidity no matter what length!!
Perhaps they could use top quality polyester instead…🥵
I have seen many many times on construction sites in St George UT where Mexicans are wearing full hoody sweaters and long pants in 100 degree weather. They say that it helps insulate them from the heat.
Berber’s in North Africa also wear many layers, though they seem to wear a more breathable material.
@@bmo5082 I live somewhere 115° is pretty common and can't afford air conditioning/don't have a car- linen and cotton long sleeves and pants and a head covering is definitely the way to go. It keeps the sun off of your skin and wicks your sweat away while letting fresh air in. However if you wear polyester you will basically broil yourself and it traps the smell/bacterias as well. That's why there is such a bad problem with infections with polyester underwear, but it's cheap so that's what the church uses¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Mormon mafia boat is getting rocked.
@@apologiamixer They are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic…🆘
hallo nemo,
bin schon lange raus aus der firma. je mehr ich höre, desto mehr wundere ich mich, was für einen mist mir erzählt und ich geglaubt habe. froh das nicht mehr aufarbeiten zu müssen. liebe grüsse aus deutschland
Herzlichen Glückwunsch! Ich bin nie beigetreten, "ewiger Investigator".
For the members to be “Fully Informed”; they must be fully sheltered! Does “The Glory of God is Intelligence” still apply?
Definitely NOT….🤣
Another podcast that hit it out of the park. We love our EX Mormon cousins across the pond. Sending lots of love. It is so nice to see you smile Nemo.
Having your shoulders exposed doesn't change the fact that you have 2 shirts on
Exactly!
@@stinkuspinkus1649 🤣 so true
Im a believer of gnosticism after my study of christianity. Any religion willing to destroy, kill and try to eradicate the teachings of another group, is a group i do not want any part of.
Nemo ❤ So good to see you!
Whoop whoop the NZ Herald got a mention on Nemo the Mormon! As a kiwi (aka a New Zealander) I was stoked the story got a mention!
My country has lovely similar laws…. I am minded and reminded to request all the information tscc holds on me. :)
I think the “tank top” garments is such a small change. Bottom garments tend to be a bigger issue I believe. Women going through pregnancy, periods and menopause all that extra material is honestly nonsense. The church should keep the garments for temple attendance or something like that. Church is out of touch…
At least make it with breathable materials
Wearing it for only church and temple would be amazing.
It's all about controlling even the private life of members.
"We cannot have an apostolic Gospel which remains foundational and timeless at the point we choose and then remove it at any point of inconvenience to us.
- Alistair Begg
"Principles and
Patterns of Submission"
(to civil authorities), Part One
Due to the mindset of top church leaders, and the excommunication of Nemo, I would suggest that given Nemo is a quite well known figure, the leaders as high up as Oaks ,who despise Nemo for catching Oaks out in his lies, would've used Nemo's exco as a warning to others to not ask questions, or especially to expose the top leaders when they blatantly lie.
It is my opinion that Dalin Oaks is a narcisisstic sociopath.
D. Hoax Oaks😮
I'm gonna be on holiday during the THRIVE event I'm genuinely devastated, I love karaoke
I sent a letter in to support you. I've heard nothing from my ward or stake leaders. But I also haven't attended in years, so I would have been surprised if they did try to call me in.
The church warned missionaries to avoid our place because Satan may lead them astray as well….🤣🤣🤣🎉
They aren’t forbidding any one from reading it. But confirming it’s fraudulent and deceptive and so delete it. Any one would say the same thing.
So I noticed I got My internet surveillanced shortly after beginning to interact with Nemo and others on the exmo platforms. I am beginning to think this is no coincidence
Nevermo here who lives within the Stake and went to Mortdale this Sunday!! Nothing was said.
Nemo, I DMed you on reddit
@@lsun5322 interesting
I think a good point is that lots of women develop yeast infections from wearing garments to much. So having something like a skirt version allows to avoid that situation
So women with health issues should just be expected to wear skirts or dresses for the rest of their lives? 😆 This seems like a big step backwards to me rather than forward. How about a breathable option that could be worn with shorts or pants?
So women with health issues just have to wear dresses and skirts for the rest of their lives? 😆 That seems like a step backwards for feminism and a step forward for patriarchy for me. How about breathable garments than can be worn with any clothing? Women should be able to wear pants or shorts if they want to without risking an infection!
I got a question, don't know were to start.
A simple one that will answer a lot of my questions from the new updates of the temple.
When Jesus said to love one Another, he really knew what he was saying, love is what eliminates fear. Why did the temple took the word "LOVE" away from the endowment ceremony and Marriage also LOVE WAS taken out. That's all..thank nemo and keep going and don't give up
@CarlitozGut - This is the wrong crowd to ask about the Temple. Most people here, including Nemo, haven't been to a temple for years. A few of us have but you should ask your Bishop about your Temple questions.
Love is the only thing that matters in the end. Question everything, learn and understand. They hate this, I was told to stop thinking, so I left.
@@tuesdaycurtis163 The universe is made up of Love and Intelligence, according to many people who have near death experiences. There is no organized religion there. That is a construct of this realm.
It's important to remember that understanding and seeking the truth are vital, and ignorance should not be a reason for leaving the church. Information is accessible to everyone; if you wish to learn, I encourage you to utilize the church's resources. Reflect on the reasons you joined the church-the manifestations of the Holy Spirit played a significant role in your conversion.
just a minute here good people this might be an opportunity to make you aware of a large movement that you may or may not heard of referring to polygamy.
the church is narrative is that Joseph committed polygamy but that is not what the evidence says, the evidence says that Joseph did not I did repeat did not commit polygamy! it was something brought in by Brigham Young and his cartel. Brigham Young already had several women on the side and after Joseph‘s murder he was able to then tell everybody that it was a revelation which he manufactured and changed so I’m going to repeat it Joseph and sister Emma did not commit polygamy. It was brought into the church by Brigham Young.
the LDS church have gone out of their way to hide the evidence and theirevidence is flimsy at best.
The whole church history screams flimsy. Read In Sacred Loneliness while you're standing around quoting truth dodgers
@ if you think that Joseph committed polygamy, you are as conned as therest of the LDS narrative
I would love to send the same email to my local stake. How can I get it?
docs.google.com/document/d/10NWJVNdO8TwNe1FdexXpGCzcgi5ifIbpEYTNRplJQHk/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0#heading=h.ney01qz0c1tt
docs.google.com/document/d/10NWJVNdO8TwNe1FdexXpGCzcgi5ifIbpEYTNRplJQHk/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0#heading=h.ney01qz0c1tt
And me, I'm not a member so can't get everyone emails😂, my son still has his name on the records though 😂
The men wearing a shift bottom would also be appropriate in Bhutan, parts of India, and Singapore....along with many others.
Omg, the email sent me back to 27B/6 and the his story 'Justin's Floodlight'. The tone of practically relaying information according to a set reality, even though that is not at all what is going on, nor the entire picture. The level of sarcasm, parody, narrative, and so on is freaking brilliant, entertaining, and very very clever at making a point. 😂😍
I like that Ruth called out the tattoos option. With this garment change I said the same thing! Why not just tattoo them on.
I have a request for Nemo. First of all, I need to acknowledge that I have only watched a few dozen episodes of Nemo, so what I am requesting may already exist. I would like to see a show where Nemo discusses what he likes about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and with which he agrees. All of the shows I have seen discuss things with which he disagrees, does not like or accuses the church of doing or saying. I understand that you want to remain a member, I believe you like or agree with something within the church. I believe if you want to retain credibility, you should portray a balanced response. Thanks!
My opinion is it is brilliant they made garments sleveless but they could be a bit more sleeveless but I dont really have to worry about that since I don't wear them anyway
I just wore them as a normal top😂 not anymore, 😂
A covenant made with free will and choice, knowledge given beforehand, agency allowed, and now we see regret for those choices given… so now you know where you and God stand after you admit the breaking of those promises made. Interesting indeed…
@@simonthewelshman you are not to judge me I have my reasons only God understands you don't know me and I'm actually starting to go to a different Christian church lately
Peter, and perhaps Nemo, should watch Ward Radio's latest: The Church in the US Will Fail... Unless You do This!
Would love to hear both of your takes on it as it is right up Peter's alley (and Nemo's too).
Just one correction: 1:20:54 the correct name is Brigham Young.
The root of mormonism is self worship. My Bishop testified that as members we are Deity.
Heaven's Helpline good work. Found it on Spotify in Richmond VA.
Just listened to episode 4 Marquita, it makes me so furious and sad that those children were left defenceless to be abused over and over again for years. How do those people sleep at night?
@rooheath quiet pretender.
@@marquitaarmstrong399 quiet liar.
Really pretender of Christ????@@WatchingwaitingG2D
@@rooheathI understand
😢😢😢😢😢
49:50, There was and still is a lot of abuse going on within the New Zealand LDS Comunity. The reason you may not hear about it very often is this... comunity leaders struggle to keep it quiet within their families, its shameful to share that information outside the family when your family is Polynesian and that is a fact. I had a Samoan girlfriend once and she was the worst, & the most unfaithful GF I had ever been involved in and her Mormon family were the most abusive family I had ever encountered, and apart from being Mormon they were totally apostate. They were always saying the same things to my face, "You Pakia, Pakias no Good, Theys not go the Samoan Way"
Unfortunately these garment changes are not for every member only for the hotter areas mainly down in Africa.
1:07: I strongly agree with the idea of wearing whatever underwear you like and attaching the symbols. At the same time, strongly disagree with the built-in bra idea - it's hard enough to find and choose bra brands that fit nicely among all those many that are on the market, unified style/size "LDS" bras would fit only few lucky ones.
I live in Cyprus we have hot humid weather from April to November i will be ordering these tops.
Just don't wear them, the Utah women don't 😂
Nemo looked like Marty Hopkirk in Randall and Hopkirk Deceased.
How do we get a copy of the email with active links ?
So glad to have you back!
I believe the new stake president is Samoan, they are straight down the line and normally don't question. The one before him was an Australian. I lived next door to him in Sydney when he was a young lad. Sad, that he is still sucked in as I was😢
Does accent does Nemo speak. As a linguistic American, I know that the UK we’re once separate countries, Nemo’s particular
‘swing’ has it’s unusual sound
Dallin Oaks wanted an electric shock pad in the male bottoms linked to heart rate but then received revelation not to so he wouldnt get more emails from nemo....lol
Holy shit dude... Brutal ass blows... I am sitting here in shock how clever your attacks are. I support your movement 100 percent as a former member and outcast.
Mesa Arizona, USA
I am currently waiting on lawsuit disbursement forms to arrive any day
Hey Nemo, you definitely need to get your butt down here to the convict colony ;), but make it during your winter mate :)
Next summer you and Peter can do an Alma baptism reenactment. The bom proves you don't need the laying on of hands. You can just baptized yourself.
I sent an email and I haven’t heard anything, but I don’t attend, and my stake presidency doesn’t know me.
No I didn’t get called into talk to any leader. And I just resigned so I don’t expect to. (This isn’t my account, happen to be on a family member iPad as watching this)
Naivety Training. Critical thinking Destroyer, Pharisee Creating, Masonic Pyramid Control.
"WE hAvE frEEdum oF spEeCh in AmERicA"
Yeah, and we still have libel and slander laws too
The ojibwe nation just let people know they are building 2 temples in Missouri. They met with all the breakaway groups of the church (our leaders were the only ones that didn't attend). Worth looking into
This is according to Book of Mormon prophecy. 3 Nephi 16.
It can be called "Carry - Oaksy night".
The garments and all current church changes is all to do with this The Next Mormons: How Millennials Are Changing the LDS Church by Jana Riess!
What is Nemo's email?
nemothemormon@gmail.com
And yet they are not!!
Nemo, let me announce to you what's going to happen. The Church will continue. It will fulfill its mission to the world. You will fall by the wayside and be forgotten. So sad!
No, the church will fail. It is destiny, prophesy even. There is no church in the Kingdom of God.
They also don’t capitalize traditionally capitalized letters, as well as the opening sounds like someone trying to replicate cadence tone without the same language. It reminds me of when Hillary Clinton’s campaign wrote a letter to Mormons in Utah, with the person who was not apart of the in group trying to use language to appeal to Utahns.
Yay for Nemo the EX. he knows about self love
You mean self-pride, right?
So, if you’re appealing your excommunication, does that mean you want back in?
Neme we l.ove your podcast here in brigham city uta h.
💌
As much as I have questions about the contradictions of the mormons, I am against the false allegations of men. If there is SA, then go to the police.
1:19:00 Members are just used to being hopeful and optimistic.
Heck, I'd even say, exmormons are more hopeful and optimistic that the Mormon Church will do the right thing. Eventually...
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix quiet pretender.
Handsome guy
I'm attending the Catholic Church now. So my nevermo wife and I can get married in her country Peru. This time in a church and not by the government. She wants to have her church wedding in the Catholic cathedral in downtown Lima Peru. They talk more about Jesus Christ and God than the Mormon cult ever did and worship false prophets!
That's really interesting cuz the Book of Mormon talks about Jesus every 1.5 verses and the Bible is way worse than that
@Thomas123-c1v Yet I went to the Mormon cult sacrament meeting this past Easter because my mom was over the choir and to support her. Every talk was about the Mormon cult profit and how important it was to follow the Mormon cult profit to gain salvation. The profit mentioned more in conference than Christ was. The Mormon cult worships the false profit more than Christ. He is a known liar and covers up children being molested by pedophiles like Joe Smith was. I guess follow the profit he leads the way.
Oh the reason why it does mention Christ. Joe Smith used the view of the Hebrews as a guideline for the book of Mormon which is not historical. Then he copied the Bible like Isaiah was not completed until after they returned from Babylon so how was it on the brass plates? Because like the book of Abraham Joe Smith copied it. Joe Smith used religion to support his pedephilia and sexual perversions and nothing more. The Mormon cult leaders are fraudsters and using now to let pedephilia into the Mormon cult now. But have fun wearing your Jesus jammies plastered with masonic symbols sewn in them.
The Book of Mormon is still another Testament of Jesus Christ by ancient prophets from another branch of Israel.
Lol
Ok
You make good sense. Do Masons wear an under wear?
U folks make me laugh. There is no “grip”. You’re either a believer from an experience with hg or…u decided you wanted to live a different way and don’t have the guts to admit that, just blame it on someone else. Righttttt
Ur so inane
There's no jesus in mormon church
Go read. Okay??????
Thank you, team Britain!
Speaking of, what are your thoughts on Kearon's new IG post where he shared his 'don't you dare' message to the missionaries at the MTC in the Philippines (if I'm not mistaken about the location). That was if he got to read a text prepared by Holland, just with his friendly demeanor. Yuck! Especially since he didn't get a chance to serve a mission as a teenager.
Im ao confused about the no underwear with the shift. Air conditioning is cool, but Im one for underpants 😅
Have they taken the other underwear away from you? Have they prevented you from still acquiring the old underwear? Can you show me proof?
You’re great Peter, but please? TAKE A BREATH,
All new top garments come with instruction not to wash but dry clean only. Washing will destroy the gps tracking chip installed by the strengthening church members commitee. Uncle Jeffrey H needs to know your whereabouts at all times. 🤣.
Buen venue en Francis
Open sleeve garments? Can't even call them sleeveless as they are!! 🙃 geeesh!!
And how many friends in Africa will send such garments stateside? 😉
You.make speedo out garments scissors and volla
Tattoo a square and compass on our nipples 😂
17:47 Who was the youngest 14 year old?
The Mormon Church wants to nitpick months so let's be specific.
Helen Mar Kimball
@@ginafrancis4950 several months shy of her 15th birthday, like 8 months shy if I remember correctly.
@@Zodiacalesotericmatrix
Yup! 15 is just as bad but to say several months shy of 15-shows that the church cannot bring itself to actually say 14. It was
Reprehensible of JS.
He groomed and spiritually manipulated and abused his power on the poor girl. And disgustingly did same to many other girls and women.
I’m over the churches apologetics of Joe Smith. A Predator thru and thru.
When I was growing up I used to think Emma was the luckiest most blessed woman on the planet for being joes wife. Put him up on that glorified pedestal and prayed my dad could be that righteous. What a joke!
My father was a hypocrite but his hypocrisy was nothing compared to that of JS.
@@ginafrancis4950 a sealing marriage. Something you never will be worthy of.
Good luck with UT Enochian fuzz.
Ruthless needs a better mic, so much echo hinders the ability to understand her valued comments...
😊 I agree - might need to ask Santa for one this year…