The Paint Variety in Chickens - Genetics, Breeding & More
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2022
- This video takes a look at the paint variety in chickens, explaining the genetics and 'rules' of breeding paints to the standard of perfection!
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Love the chicken genetics vids, thank you for all of the effort!
Thank you for watching! So glad you enjoyed it!
Another excellent video!
Thank you!!
Thank you for sharing.
I love it!
Question 🙋♀️
I was told if a dominant white bird came from pure lines of dominant white it won’t work to produce a paint?
Dominant white X Black = 100% dominant white.
But I was told and found a lot of miss information so I may be completely wrong.
Thank you!
A dominant white x black should always be able to produce a paint. It is true though that a recessive white cannot produce a paint. I think what you were told was probably a confused half-truth. Generally, if you're looking to start a paint pen, don't get birds out of white pens unless you know for sure they are dominant white. A recessive white can't produce a paint. 🙂
I will say, paint has a lot to do with gene expression and pigment holes. If you used a dominant white bird out of a white pen and crossed it with a black, you will probably get paints with a lot of white and little black as opposed to using a white bird that came out of a paint pen known for producing paints with lots of black. If that makes sense. 😁
Thank you
No problem! 😊
Hi I watched all of your genetics videos, so I have this correct, if I put a black over my paint hen (showing minimal white) I should get paint with more black? that's my plan anyway... hoping to then keep back a nice looking paint roo for future hatchings..thoughts on this? thank you
Hey! Yes! Breeding a black male to a paint hen should give you 50% paint offspring and 50% black offspring. And yes, those paint offspring should have more black than the paint hen. Sounds like a good plan, hope it all works out! 😁😁
@@CedarShadeFarm Thank you so much for replying. I really appreciate it xx
@@tamarasimpkin No problem at all! 😊
So how do you explain the fact that sometimes you can breed two blacks from paint x black or paint x paint breeding and have them produce paint? Some how these black phenotype birds are still genetically carrying dominate white, or else there are other genes contributing to the paint variety.
Also, how does paint x black breeding (which is how all my pens are set up) produce white? Are these whites actually paints that aren't expressing the black?
Your videos are very helpful. Thank you!
Hey! It should be impossible for two blacks to create white UNLESS they are carrying recessive white. Is this happening with your birds? To my knowledge there are no other genes responsible in paint (unless maybe genes regulating the pigment holes that cause the black splotches. You are probably dealing with recessive white in that pen. 🙂
As far as paint x black making white, although it is possible the birds could be paints with loads of white, I highly doubt it because it's so unlikely. You're probably dealing with recessive white here too. What happens if you take a bird out of black x black and breed it to a black? Does it make black? If so, it's recessive white. 😁
@@CedarShadeFarm Judy Lee has sold black birds from paint breeding before that the new owner bred together and got paint chicks. I know of other breeders who have reported this happening as well. I have not tried it myself, I always breed black (from paint) back to paint.
I bet you're right about it being a recessive white gene causing white chicks from paint x black breeding. I don't know how to figure out who is carrying recessive white though. Would recessive white also be responsible for what we call "pinkies"? Ie, an all white bird born with pink skin over it's whole body from paint x black parents.
@@Coconutoil4life That should be impossible. 😉
I wonder if maybe instead, they are very very dark blues that appear black, and what they’re getting are splashes instead?
@@Coconutoil4life Hey! I did some digging and found an explanation for the 'recessive white paints.' So, technically, it is possible. Super rare, but technically possible. I had actually read an article way back on it and had totally forgotten about it. I was reminded of it today while looking over some of my recessive white Watermaal males and noticing the amount of black present (it happens). THIS must have been what caused the recessive white paints. Here is a link to the article. We really try to breed against the black in recessive whites, but when a paint line is carrying recessive white and the recessive white is not being held to any standard, it happens. :) I doubt it is possible when breeding two recessive whites from a good line of whites together, but recessive white from paint, definitely possible (rare though) Hope this makes sense!
www.chickencolours.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Pigment-holes-Paint-Silkies.pdf
Do you sell paint chicks? I live in North Carolina and would love to find some good quality paint silkies.🥰
I don't unfortunately, but thanks for thinking of me! Try Facebook, there are lots of good paint breeders on there! Check the names of the farms that donated photos for this video too. :)
What happens if a paint female and blue male mate?
This would be the equivalent of the pairing Paint x Black, BUT 50% of offspring would have the blue gene. So, you’d get 25% blue paints, 25% paints, 25% blues and 25% blacks. 🙂
I’ll definitely be doing a video about this in the future 😉