I had forgotten all about it, but this video started bringing back all the memories. I remember doing a ton of FoG F2P as a kid when it first came out, getting the green FoG mage robes and killing people who only used melee. I also remember finding several places that I could hide while charging the stone, and making so many people upset because I rarely just rushed the middle, while most other players I fought rushed mid and died immediately.
People remember Fist Of Guthix more because it was f2p and therefore is talked about more. But Stealing Creation was FAR superior. The rewards need to be reworked from the ground up, but truth be told I just played it for fun back in the day. My points would stay maxed out because I just wanted to rush back into a game before I could spend any of my points
FoG was in 2008, just a year after OSRS's save. Free magic training isn't a problem, since we already have Alching which actually profits. FoG is a great alternative that's less xp per hour, but is more fun. Remember you have to wait for a game to start and then chase people around. It's more downtime than uptime. The degradable skilling gloves aren't that bad either, because it takes a long time to acquire them. If your goal is 99 fishing, it doesn't make sense to spend hours getting gloves just for them to fall apart after an hour.
pretty sure the "old school feel" is not only out the window but totally baked in the sun by this point. the literal only thing old school about old school rs these days is literally the name and the graphics.
god i wish FoG would come back. this game was so fun. lol also. interesting note you left out about all of the rewards here. they were almost all degradeable. so while the rune saving effect was super strong, it wasn't anywhere near as powerful as you made it seem. They only really lasted 6 hours before you would need to get them recharged, which cost about as much as a new set costs.
Right? It's already had years worth of updates that weren't there back in the day. Also OSRS started off from the 2007 backup, so not sure where he got 2006 from.
Nothing broken with any of these items, especially the skilling gloves. By the time you get a skilling glove it’ll probably take you anywhere from 3 to 5 hours (estimated)
I remember going out of my way to get the rune berserker shield, was so cool having one as a kid and I cherished it. Nothing cooler than a spikey shield
Damn man...Fist of Guthix was like the last major content I engaged in with RS2 before going on a long hiatus. Ground for hours in my limited free time at home to get the combat robes and even found a guy willing to switch off roles and we both ended up getting a ton of xp together. I was very proud of myself back then as a F2P player to have gotten that far...god the memories.
I doubt FOG would have an affect on rune economy. It'd be fun for a week but quickly turn into a dead minigame. It was only popular because the Runescape community was really big at the time and there wasn't a no-xp waste meta.
When you have to spend 3-4 hours to get those swordfish gloves then the actual bonus xp per hour is a lot smaller than it looks like plus it’s almost impossible to boost the mini game with random matchmaking so they aren’t really that bad for the meta
I remember people saying that the fastest way to get tokens was to let the player kill the hunted player quickly which I think was very true. Chasing the other player was very annoying sometimes especially if you were a low-level vs. high-level player.
When I was younger my uncle Jim used to come into my room when I was sleeping and wake me up with the fist of guthix! My parents don’t allow him around the family anymore.
TBH they should leave these rewards out of old school, this was around the time rs3 started going downhill with all these extra but not necessary things.
the minigame was honestly really boring and with the meta of osrs it would be a shit minigame hope they dont add it because of nostalgic noobs. only upside is if it was f2p i guess
@bryndel thanks for repeating what i suggested in my last sentence, question is in this hypothetical that it gets released would it be available to f2p i wouldnt say its a for sure yes
Theres no downside to it tho, it is more content for F2P, and all the items are untradable and weaker than P2P midgame, so it literally only makes the game better
Thanks for bringing me back to the past! I remember I had the berserker rune shield, the Earth gloves, and swordfish gloves. Then I create an account strictly for a fists of guthix named Folmetolmage that was a mage defence Pure. Lmao I did random builds back then 😅
As a person who only plays F2P, I'd login just to play this. You mixed up the names of the combat and druidic robes. Druidic robes were awesome because they boosted the chance for binds to land! Whereas Combat robes had BiS magic accuracy. Also, no, only Combat & Druidic were F2P. IDK if Battle Mage became F2P after EoC as I had quit by then, and so had the bulk of casual CWA/FoG players. I say rework every reward because OSRS is in a far more balanced spot than RS was at the time of FoG's peak.
I MISS FIST OF GUTHIX SO MUCH, I stayed up all night on the days my parents went out and played this all night until they showed back up, I miss the good days
A couple years ago I visited this minigame on RS3 because it was the featured minigame of the week (or month? Can't remember). I was hoping for a nostalgia trip, I loved playing it around 2008. I was disappointed to find only people farming points huddled around the middle, not engaging in combat and getting angry when I tried to hunt my target. Jagex would have to make sure this doesn't happe for an OSRS version.
Some mistakes: Combat and Druidic robes were flipped, Battlemage robes were not f2p. Fist of guthix as f2p mage traing would only be really good between 1-55, as high alching can be profitable and will be more xp/h than using magic there. You have lots of dead time chasing, or waiting game to start or waiting to be killed.
As someone who was ranked top 200 in FOG. It was amazing at first until the bots became an issue. As bots are still a major issue personally I'm against the idea.
You know, wouldn't be all that bad if F2P got some more content let alone there's a lot already in the game that wasn't part of 06 let alone even in Rs3 or during the era of 2009-2012 when most of this was added and back then during the Era of FOG there was still very much pking even with this stuff, yea the skilling items from this was very highly required for skilling to help rates but you did have to play this minigame a lot to keep up with it. Overall, this minigame was far more in favor for F2P users over members to be real. but if they added this to OSRS they would nerf a lot of this stuff to match it with rates current in osrs tbh
People aren't going to use fist of guthix to train magic, literally nobody did that. The most popular method is and walways will be to afk splash. People played fist of guthix because it was fun. We were kids and it was fun af. That's it. I wish they would bring back stealing creations though. I miss that minigame so fucking much.
If it improves the game I would say that these items are fine to add. that free to play has more stuff to work towards than back in 07 isnt bad. nostalgia is gone. there are very few players that would still get into the game because of their childhood memories. if it makes the new player experience better for actual new players then why not. Adjsutments can always be made ofcourse, like the free runes and rune saving ability of the robes.
They should release a weekly rota for the PvP minis and give a secondary currency for the rota to buy cosmetics and 3t training weapons (ex. swift blade,) or small amounts of gold or trouver parchments, animations.
I remember while being the hunted and higher levels than most f2p, I would kick the opponent and they would usually rage quit. Made farming tokens a lot faster
If fist of guthix did come back I feel like it would benefit from expanding on typical pvp defense. Let attackers use melee/ranged, give the defender more food + brews and protection prayers. It also makes sense giving that the minigame gave coifs and gauntlets.
I think this returning would just wind up being another soul wars where the nostalgia and hype dies off within weeks. At least the rewards in soul wars keep it relevant for irons, leagues and for cloggers/pet hunters. The rewards from this would have to be relevant for all accounts and builds for it to maintain popularity
The issue with fog coming back in osrs... is 3rd party clients. Runelite would ruin this gamemode unless they require plugins like player indicators to not work here. Whole strat of this mode was to hide from your opponent.. with runelite you cant do that, they can see you in the crowd of people very easily and your name on the minimap
I remember when I first played this way back when. I thought it'd be a great idea to stand in the center because I thought, "there's so many people stacked on top of each other, there's no way they can find my name and click on me!" but they could and they did and I rage quit and never tried it again lol
I doubt the gloves will be overpowered. When you count in the time it requires to gather as many as 200tokens and they are degradable. If not degradable then they would be op
This game was easy my clan would get a party going and we wouldet one side with the orb to gather there points then it would switch and we go thr same on our side
![The Accidental God [OSRS Perspective]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r64kg_WwuaQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I miss the rune zerker shield, that thing was a f2p badge of honour lmfao
Yes this and str amy (t)
I had a 40 def gravite pure with rapier and gravite 2h melting people. Good times
I remember when I achieved full rune and the rune Berk shield, I felt like such a badass
The gloves were the best
depleating it and selling it was my fav moneymaker :D
Did this for the free runes and magic training
sadly i have a feeling that any F2p content that are getting added in the game like this are gonna be massively botted and sadly gonna be unplayable
These items weren’t tradable. No gp to be made with any
I really miss this era of RS. Such great memories
I had forgotten all about it, but this video started bringing back all the memories.
I remember doing a ton of FoG F2P as a kid when it first came out, getting the green FoG mage robes and killing people who only used melee. I also remember finding several places that I could hide while charging the stone, and making so many people upset because I rarely just rushed the middle, while most other players I fought rushed mid and died immediately.
This was one of the highlights of my childhood, hiding in FoG and getting the sick robes and berserker shield before school each morning
Fist of Guthix is cool, but I would perfer stealing creation.
Stealing creation was a game changer!!!
People remember Fist Of Guthix more because it was f2p and therefore is talked about more. But Stealing Creation was FAR superior. The rewards need to be reworked from the ground up, but truth be told I just played it for fun back in the day. My points would stay maxed out because I just wanted to rush back into a game before I could spend any of my points
Bro has 0 boss kc
@@alex3rd11 FOG shits on SC
@@RsChrisG in what way?
FoG was in 2008, just a year after OSRS's save.
Free magic training isn't a problem, since we already have Alching which actually profits.
FoG is a great alternative that's less xp per hour, but is more fun. Remember you have to wait for a game to start and then chase people around. It's more downtime than uptime.
The degradable skilling gloves aren't that bad either, because it takes a long time to acquire them.
If your goal is 99 fishing, it doesn't make sense to spend hours getting gloves just for them to fall apart after an hour.
This was hands down my favorite minigame as a kid, would be amazing if it ever made it into osrs
same here! I was so surprised when I came back to osrs that it was taken out :(
fist of guthix and stealing creations were the best
pretty sure the "old school feel" is not only out the window but totally baked in the sun by this point. the literal only thing old school about old school rs these days is literally the name and the graphics.
I'm not looking forward to seeing people sail past me while i fish for shrimp in draynor
this wouldn’t work because people would add you and turn on entity hider. cant hide in the center anymore and you are easy to find.
it would only be that busy for like 2 weeks. afterward it would be dead content
god i wish FoG would come back. this game was so fun. lol
also. interesting note you left out about all of the rewards here. they were almost all degradeable. so while the rune saving effect was super strong, it wasn't anywhere near as powerful as you made it seem. They only really lasted 6 hours before you would need to get them recharged, which cost about as much as a new set costs.
it is this year. a new grandmaster quest called guthix sleeps will unlock it
I love how you keep saying that “it may take away from the feel of the 2006 version of old school”, that feeling ended back in 2015😂
exactly what I was thinking, If people keep worrying about 'nostalgia' the game will never blossom and updates will stay boring
Right? It's already had years worth of updates that weren't there back in the day. Also OSRS started off from the 2007 backup, so not sure where he got 2006 from.
Nothing broken with any of these items, especially the skilling gloves. By the time you get a skilling glove it’ll probably take you anywhere from 3 to 5 hours (estimated)
I remember going out of my way to get the rune berserker shield, was so cool having one as a kid and I cherished it. Nothing cooler than a spikey shield
Truuuu
FoG and the chess version of Pest Control were my fav pre EOC mini games
Wow, the chess PC was so cool!
FoG was great untill it got mercilessly botted.
The nostalgia earned you a new sub
Berserker shield, i forgot about those Core memory unlocked
Damn man...Fist of Guthix was like the last major content I engaged in with RS2 before going on a long hiatus. Ground for hours in my limited free time at home to get the combat robes and even found a guy willing to switch off roles and we both ended up getting a ton of xp together. I was very proud of myself back then as a F2P player to have gotten that far...god the memories.
I doubt FOG would have an affect on rune economy. It'd be fun for a week but quickly turn into a dead minigame. It was only popular because the Runescape community was really big at the time and there wasn't a no-xp waste meta.
When you have to spend 3-4 hours to get those swordfish gloves then the actual bonus xp per hour is a lot smaller than it looks like plus it’s almost impossible to boost the mini game with random matchmaking so they aren’t really that bad for the meta
This minigame was only good for f2p magic training, other than that it was a boring as hell
Literally none of the original rewards are an issue if you make them untradeable.
I remember people saying that the fastest way to get tokens was to let the player kill the hunted player quickly which I think was very true. Chasing the other player was very annoying sometimes especially if you were a low-level vs. high-level player.
Battle mage wasnt available to f2p
So many memories of trying to earn that rune berserker shield before my bus picked me up in the morning 😩
FoG was garbage.. Bring Stealing Creations.
I always wanted one of those spiked shields as a kid
The rune berserker shield for the Clan wars back in the day
As a f2p only player id love these items lol
Also the Fist of Guthix cave entrance was in low level Varrock wild & created a popular multi pk hot spot
When I was younger my uncle Jim used to come into my room when I was sleeping and wake me up with the fist of guthix!
My parents don’t allow him around the family anymore.
Was he "wildy pking"?
That's awesome! My uncle used to wake me up with his "wildy Stryker wyrm" 😭
My uncle would always Entangle me and then cast Water Surge
Now we just need stealing creation
TBH they should leave these rewards out of old school, this was around the time rs3 started going downhill with all these extra but not necessary things.
BRING BACK STEALING CREATION !!
the minigame was honestly really boring and with the meta of osrs it would be a shit minigame hope they dont add it because of nostalgic noobs. only upside is if it was f2p i guess
Its not meant to be a p2p engaging minigame, its adding something to f2p.... Not that complex mate
@bryndel thanks for repeating what i suggested in my last sentence, question is in this hypothetical that it gets released would it be available to f2p i wouldnt say its a for sure yes
Theres no downside to it tho, it is more content for F2P, and all the items are untradable and weaker than P2P midgame, so it literally only makes the game better
bad content is a downside in my opinion@@SimplyNexy
it's not bad, you just don't like it @@rsdudetsom
nostalgia, fuck!
Thanks for bringing me back to the past! I remember I had the berserker rune shield, the Earth gloves, and swordfish gloves. Then I create an account strictly for a fists of guthix named Folmetolmage that was a mage defence Pure. Lmao I did random builds back then 😅
Was trash, the game fucked itself when center DD piles were so huge you couldn't even click your target.
like this would be f2p
I used to get the shark gloves for basically no reason
As a person who only plays F2P, I'd login just to play this.
You mixed up the names of the combat and druidic robes. Druidic robes were awesome because they boosted the chance for binds to land! Whereas Combat robes had BiS magic accuracy.
Also, no, only Combat & Druidic were F2P. IDK if Battle Mage became F2P after EoC as I had quit by then, and so had the bulk of casual CWA/FoG players.
I say rework every reward because OSRS is in a far more balanced spot than RS was at the time of FoG's peak.
I MISS FIST OF GUTHIX SO MUCH, I stayed up all night on the days my parents went out and played this all night until they showed back up, I miss the good days
A couple years ago I visited this minigame on RS3 because it was the featured minigame of the week (or month? Can't remember).
I was hoping for a nostalgia trip, I loved playing it around 2008. I was disappointed to find only people farming points huddled around the middle, not engaging in combat and getting angry when I tried to hunt my target. Jagex would have to make sure this doesn't happe for an OSRS version.
Some mistakes: Combat and Druidic robes were flipped, Battlemage robes were not f2p. Fist of guthix as f2p mage traing would only be really good between 1-55, as high alching can be profitable and will be more xp/h than using magic there. You have lots of dead time chasing, or waiting game to start or waiting to be killed.
As someone who was ranked top 200 in FOG. It was amazing at first until the bots became an issue. As bots are still a major issue personally I'm against the idea.
You know, wouldn't be all that bad if F2P got some more content let alone there's a lot already in the game that wasn't part of 06 let alone even in Rs3 or during the era of 2009-2012 when most of this was added and back then during the Era of FOG there was still very much pking even with this stuff, yea the skilling items from this was very highly required for skilling to help rates but you did have to play this minigame a lot to keep up with it.
Overall, this minigame was far more in favor for F2P users over members to be real.
but if they added this to OSRS they would nerf a lot of this stuff to match it with rates current in osrs tbh
I miss being a druid
People aren't going to use fist of guthix to train magic, literally nobody did that. The most popular method is and walways will be to afk splash. People played fist of guthix because it was fun. We were kids and it was fun af. That's it. I wish they would bring back stealing creations though. I miss that minigame so fucking much.
Fist of Guthix is nostalgic, but if Jagex wants to give better magic gear to F2P, they should just give F2P mages splitbark armor.
If it improves the game I would say that these items are fine to add. that free to play has more stuff to work towards than back in 07 isnt bad. nostalgia is gone. there are very few players that would still get into the game because of their childhood memories. if it makes the new player experience better for actual new players then why not.
Adjsutments can always be made ofcourse, like the free runes and rune saving ability of the robes.
Are we all maxed or bored at this point? Let’s just add Summoning/Dungeoneering and EOC and put this game out of its fucking misery already.
Man unlocked a core memory.
They should release a weekly rota for the PvP minis and give a secondary currency for the rota to buy cosmetics and 3t training weapons (ex. swift blade,) or small amounts of gold or trouver parchments, animations.
I remember while being the hunted and higher levels than most f2p, I would kick the opponent and they would usually rage quit. Made farming tokens a lot faster
If fist of guthix did come back I feel like it would benefit from expanding on typical pvp defense. Let attackers use melee/ranged, give the defender more food + brews and protection prayers. It also makes sense giving that the minigame gave coifs and gauntlets.
more minigame Pvp would make me happy
Ive always preferred the stress-free feel of safe pvp, its a different vibe
one day we'll hold hands and stop crying about equal exp rates. there's no reason the bonfires should be giving 1/3 firemaking exp
I think this returning would just wind up being another soul wars where the nostalgia and hype dies off within weeks. At least the rewards in soul wars keep it relevant for irons, leagues and for cloggers/pet hunters. The rewards from this would have to be relevant for all accounts and builds for it to maintain popularity
The issue with fog coming back in osrs... is 3rd party clients. Runelite would ruin this gamemode unless they require plugins like player indicators to not work here. Whole strat of this mode was to hide from your opponent.. with runelite you cant do that, they can see you in the crowd of people very easily and your name on the minimap
Stealing creation > Fist of guthix. Tbh I quit osrs and if stealing creation came back I’d probably play again at least for a bit.
I remember when I first played this way back when. I thought it'd be a great idea to stand in the center because I thought, "there's so many people stacked on top of each other, there's no way they can find my name and click on me!" but they could and they did and I rage quit and never tried it again lol
I doubt the gloves will be overpowered. When you count in the time it requires to gather as many as 200tokens and they are degradable. If not degradable then they would be op
Bring back FOG just as it was, maybe more/ better rewards as an incentive to actually play it. Lets save some coins and have a bit of fun.
Psyche ward theo! How's it going? I'm praying for you and your depressiom to go away! Love you!
God this whole gatekeeping xp due to taking away from the "prestige" of grinding is such bullshit
Definitely possible without summoning from helping kill little as two ticks, and tick eating items. The fog robes as nice bridge mid-game even with IM
Looks cool but not fitting for the game now. The dhide coifs are cool but it would mess up magic training so it’s a no from Simon Cowell
Jusr got back into OSRS is FOG still a thing please reply all info is appreciated!
If they bring it back to old-school I would get back into the game and f2p would get something cool for once
I hate the argument of "it will take away from the old feeling of oldschool. They did that ages ago, just let new items come in at this point lol.
Back in the day when I would make a new account the first thing I would do is train Magic at FoG because it was free 😂
i legit don't remember the battle mage being f2p. Rune gauntlets for berserker shield were sick though
I used to put on full rune when I was being hunted thinking I was giving myself the best defence…smh
ooo please do a Stealing Creation video next, that was my favorite minigame and I really hope it comes back
i always used to seercull spec the people attacking me and watch them be confused af why they couldn't use the spell they were just using
I like it, but think about all the dead content in game. I think they should focus on that content before adding more.
What was the point of this and the stealing creation video mate and they coming to old school ? Are you putting the idea out there ?
I'm pretty sure this guy is just a reuploader and isn't actually Theoatrix
I can't believe I forgot about that shield. It was so epic I don't even know if I ever got it.
What? If it's a mini game that supplies the runes, then the xp should be 0 no question.
This game was easy my clan would get a party going and we wouldet one side with the orb to gather there points then it would switch and we go thr same on our side
I hated this minigame because of people running away.. it was frustrating
I miss thing mini game, along with Stealing Creation. Loved both of them!
Love the mini game but the rewards would ruin pures like you said. No no no no no
I thought Theoatrix makes only OSRS videos.
Ughhhhh I thought this was coming back for a second !!!! Seeing the tittle
FOG was the greatest back in the day. It use to make f2p playable
i can't remember why, but i played this mini game a lot as a kid 😂😂
would love fist of guthix and stealing creation to come back!
f2p needs buffs, how do you expect to get new players?....
“The prestige of 99 runecrafting” -> pans over to zeah rc.
If you have a spike shield in F2P you are a God, noobs praise you
These videos are great Theo. Why don't you advertise this channel on your main channel? (or post this sort of content there)
Or maybe you are advertising it there, not sure, I haven't kept up with that channel much recently but the videos I have seen I don't notice the it
hope they add this to old school and keep the f2p items
back than people would get the double xp hammers for 99 con
I had completely blocked this out of my memory. Holy shit.
F2P needs some really big love, this is a step in the right direction
can you please make a video on stealing creations! would love to see this
man i remember tanking whole clans with my rune berserker shield.