Thank you! This was exactly the comparison I was looking for. I shoot a lot of street with the Q2 and the banding in the shadows gets me sometimes because as you indicated I set up about half a stop under exposed. Really nice work.
Im bouncing around channels trying to convince myself to add a Q3 to the arsenal for a little more "fun" camera but I had to stop and comment on this. This is a really great video. Very relaxed presentation style but without rambling...you're keeping it moving forward with information. The examples are absolutely fantastic too - side by side examples of *specific real world* scenarios. I've watched a lot of mediocre camera videos in the last few days but this really does stand out as exceptionally well produced. Nicely done!
Thank you so much 🙏 You are one of very, very few youtubers who actually made a proper review of the Q3 where instead of just reading the fact sheet with tons of B-roll, you actually copmared the Q3 to its predecessor with an actual side by side photo comparison and explained the differences. UA-cams photo community needs more people like you. Instantly subscribed to your channel.
Great video! Despite the improvements you cover, not convinced that it's enough to justify the upgrade, especially if video is a non-starter, and the tilt-screen isn't important to you. Also, have never had an issue with the battery life on the Q2 or the screen.
Hi Alex, thank you so much for this very informative comparison video. I didn't think I would upgrade my Leica Q2 but after watching the differences in highlight and shadow recovery I started thinking otherwise.
I have to query the shot with the girl, the whole image from the q3 is of lesser exposure than the q2 which is automatically pulling back your highlights (?)
Thanks. Great review. Just curious- how does the Q2 monochrome compare to either the Q2 or the Q3 without the color array filter? Is it even better when pushed for dynamic range or ISO?? Thanks. I’ve subscribed. Geoff
Great work as always. While many UA-camrs still open the box or talk about their first impression. You already go to the next step comparing Q2 and Q3. When I know the spec. of higher resolution of Q3, I have a big question about noise in low light. And you just blow away my doubt. I just sold Leica SL2-S in this morning. It it my best camera so far but not the right one for me. It is too big and too heavy to carry everywhere. Even SL2 can change the lens but I can carry only one lens of 35mm and mostly leave my 50mm and 85mm at home. So I decide to go with Q3. It seems like mini SL2-S with one lens 😊. I already order it and I probably get it in mid of June. Again thank you for your effort making a good video for us.
Good review, only thing that in real life you have only one photo, and if it's boring- no one will care bout amount of details on shadows. Same works if it is great.
Hi Alex, thanks for the comparison and double thanks for the raws to download for comparing them at the computer 👍. Well, how shall I say it? "This is the way!" how comparisons should be done. 😉 Liked and subscribed of course. - That look thing at 1:18, I wished they integrated the in body profiles first into the raw, such as Std, Nat, BW nat. etc., like it's available in the raws of all other brands do also.
Excellent video, no excitable presentation, just a matter of fact video, great. Subscribed. Q3 is a great upgrade but not for me. Q2 is perfect for me. With all the new upgrade it does not warrant a change. Video, is a non starter, I shoot only stills. Would have preferred a Visoflex adapter than the tilt screen for the amount of tilt I need to use on my Sonys. Also spoiled the ascetics ,Q2 is more beautiful. Would have preferred a lower MP sensor, 24/36mp perhaps. Since I have had my Q2, I still need to improve my photography than need to upgrade, Just my personal thoughts about both cameras. Thanks for making this video so interesting, Regards.
Thanks for the comparison Alex. Very happy with my Q3 so far. The grip and charging mat are well worth getting too, if on the expensive side. I don't shoot jpeg but still interested in your assessment of the Leica looks. Cheers
Long time subscriber, love your videos. Now looking for my first leica. What would be really awesome and i can't find it anywhere done properly just like in this video is. Q2 or Q3 vs M10/11. More importantly i see a lot of people saying the q2/3 lacks the leica 3d pop, the microcontrast you pay so much for. I've seen some photos which aren't really apple to apple and cant draw proper conclusion. So i'm here to ask you, please do this comparison. Or maybe if you dont feel like doing that, you can tell me whats your experience in the matter with a comment. Thanks a lot! just realized im writing from my work laptop (oppssss) and its different youtube account. But at least i subscribed with 2 of them for this awesome channel.
Nice comparison… I have the Q2 and perfectly happy with it! The Q3 may get much ( maybe) but the Q2 is still a great camera with that lens. Be safe, Cheers..😊
I own a Q2 and although I like the camera, I find the exposure metering indecent. I also own a Sony a7R5 and this one outclasses the Q2 in terms of exposure metering. Any outdoor portrait backlight puts the Q2 in crisis because the use in spots causes the highlights in the background to burn out. To be honest even the automatic WB is questionable. Regarding AF, I just hope that inheriting the Lumix S5II's AF might have improved the Q3's AF performance. The Q2's FW updates brought improvements to AF. Unfortunately Leica implemented functions but the accuracy and reliability of the AF are poor and certainly not worthy of the cost of this camera. However, I'm curious to try the Q3 to evaluate the change. Q2 is my everyday camera Thanks for your work Alex.
Have you compared the dynamic range at 60MP vs 36MP. The M11 supposedly goes from from 14 to 15 stops when dropping the resolution. Would be interesting to see a comparison on the Q3
Leica had addressed this before. You can get the same results by shooting full resolution and downsizing in Lightroom. Watch this at minute 43 ua-cam.com/users/liveHIE-GQjiqYA? feature=share
@@ABarrera Thanks for the reference. I guess that is to be expected since Lightroom does its own demosaicing from the photosite data anyway. I was hoping for magic
Yep so far better AF for certain but not yet in the same league as Canon or Sony’s. I bet firmware updates will further improve it though to get mostly there.
A nice upgrade isn’t a needed upgrade 🤷🏽♂️ I think the Q3 specs looks great on paper but if you can find the Q2 USED for a good price i would still purchase the Q2
I have this camera as well and I think your assessment is spot on. The Q3 is a solid half a stop better ISO and 13 more megapixels. Also better dynamic range that is actually quantifiable as well. I’m seeing the difference and I really enjoy it.
High ISO shadow recovery on LR with SL2 and Q2 sensors looks buggy. Try with C1Pro. Way different. Not sure why but you probably noticed when raising shadows on Q2 at high ISO there is like a point where it just flips out and introduces tons of buggy noise. C1 Pro doesnt
@@Bryan-lu4du No actually. Its really something to do with the Sensor used in the Q2 and SL2. M10, M10R, M11, Q1, Q3 never displayed the same "bug". I say bug because its obvious how the noise jumps suddenly when raising shadows in LR with Q2 high ISO files
Am I crazy or does that last photo you shared look wider on the Q2? The odd thing is left to right it’s the same view but the depth (top and bottom) of the photo looks different. Is it possible that Leica included more correction to the same lens to get an actual 28mm focal length this time? What are your thoughts?
@@ABarrera That's not what I'm referring to. In Leica's press materials to reviewers they claim that using the lower megapixel DNG pixel binned options increases dynamic range and lowers noise. I've yet to see anyone actually test that claim. MathPhotographer touches on it in his Q3 features video but doesn't test to confirm. ua-cam.com/video/3GBWoFeLApQ/v-deo.html
@@ABarrera The statement in that video doesn't actually address their claim which is that the Q3 gains an additional stop of dynamic range when using the S-DNG and M-DNG over L-DNG. Lightroom can't miraculously gain an additional stop of dynamic range from a raw file that doesn't have it. I brought it up because you specifically tested dynamic range in your video and if you're going to do that it's worth testing dynamic range across pixel binned versions since Leica is explicitly claiming an additional stop of dynamic range. It's fine though, my Q3 arrived this morning so I'll just test myself.
@@ABarrera Mathphotographer released an in depth video testing the pixel binning on the Q3 and provides extensive objective proof it does in fact increase dynamic range with the M-DNG being the best option. This is the question I was looking to have answered, although I didn't expect anyone to delve so deep into it. ua-cam.com/video/YH3LT4229ug/v-deo.html
Fair enough! Hey, if I looked like you, I’d wear that shirt every day. Seriously thanks for the video,I found it very useful. I’m on the waiting list for my Q3. Still wrestling with whether to keep or sell my Q2 Monochrom.
Leica went all out on Q3. Love seeing how much more improved the DR is over the Q2. Great comparison as always Alex! And I def agree with you, the Q2 is def gonna be a bargain this year.
Came for the camera review, stayed for the gun show.
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Just discovered Alex's videos. Very intelligent evaluations, and extremely well presented.
Thank you! This was exactly the comparison I was looking for. I shoot a lot of street with the Q2 and the banding in the shadows gets me sometimes because as you indicated I set up about half a stop under exposed.
Really nice work.
Some of the best gear reviews on UA-cam. Many thanks, Alex 😅
Im bouncing around channels trying to convince myself to add a Q3 to the arsenal for a little more "fun" camera but I had to stop and comment on this. This is a really great video. Very relaxed presentation style but without rambling...you're keeping it moving forward with information. The examples are absolutely fantastic too - side by side examples of *specific real world* scenarios. I've watched a lot of mediocre camera videos in the last few days but this really does stand out as exceptionally well produced. Nicely done!
this aint even my video and I may have wiped a thankful tear from my eye...
Thank you so much 🙏 You are one of very, very few youtubers who actually made a proper review of the Q3 where instead of just reading the fact sheet with tons of B-roll, you actually copmared the Q3 to its predecessor with an actual side by side photo comparison and explained the differences. UA-cams photo community needs more people like you. Instantly subscribed to your channel.
Subscribed. A very well presented and informative review, looking forward to more. Good job 🙂
Great video. What metering mode were you using? Does the highlight protection mode help level the playing field?
Great video! Despite the improvements you cover, not convinced that it's enough to justify the upgrade, especially if video is a non-starter, and the tilt-screen isn't important to you. Also, have never had an issue with the battery life on the Q2 or the screen.
Hi Alex, thank you so much for this very informative comparison video. I didn't think I would upgrade my Leica Q2 but after watching the differences in highlight and shadow recovery I started thinking otherwise.
Great comparison... I was on the fence. There is a big difference in the detail. You pushed me to putting a deposit on a new Q3. Thank you.
Great review. Thanks for the samples. Can't wait to try this camera.
Thanks for the comparison and sharing it, Good information!
I have to query the shot with the girl, the whole image from the q3 is of lesser exposure than the q2 which is automatically pulling back your highlights (?)
Thanks. Great review. Just curious- how does the Q2 monochrome compare to either the Q2 or the Q3 without the color array filter? Is it even better when pushed for dynamic range or ISO?? Thanks. I’ve subscribed. Geoff
The Q2M will still have the advantage in high ISO. I would say in the lower ISO range the difference is smaller
Great work as always. While many UA-camrs still open the box or talk about their first impression. You already go to the next step comparing Q2 and Q3. When I know the spec. of higher resolution of Q3, I have a big question about noise in low light. And you just blow away my doubt. I just sold Leica SL2-S in this morning. It it my best camera so far but not the right one for me. It is too big and too heavy to carry everywhere. Even SL2 can change the lens but I can carry only one lens of 35mm and mostly leave my 50mm and 85mm at home. So I decide to go with Q3. It seems like mini SL2-S with one lens 😊. I already order it and I probably get it in mid of June. Again thank you for your effort making a good video for us.
Good review, only thing that in real life you have only one photo, and if it's boring- no one will care bout amount of details on shadows. Same works if it is great.
Great review! How would you think the image quality would compare to Sony A7R IV?
Hi Alex, thanks for the comparison and double thanks for the raws to download for comparing them at the computer 👍. Well, how shall I say it? "This is the way!" how comparisons should be done. 😉 Liked and subscribed of course. - That look thing at 1:18, I wished they integrated the in body profiles first into the raw, such as Std, Nat, BW nat. etc., like it's available in the raws of all other brands do also.
Excellent video, no excitable presentation, just a matter of fact video, great. Subscribed. Q3 is a great upgrade but not for me. Q2 is perfect for me. With all the new upgrade it does not warrant a change. Video, is a non starter, I shoot only stills. Would have preferred a Visoflex adapter than the tilt screen for the amount of tilt I need to use on my Sonys. Also spoiled the ascetics ,Q2 is more beautiful. Would have preferred a lower MP sensor, 24/36mp perhaps. Since I have had my Q2, I still need to improve my photography than need to upgrade, Just my personal thoughts about both cameras. Thanks for making this video so interesting, Regards.
Great video Alex, thanks!
Hey everyone, I’m Alex, and as you can see, Florida isn’t a concealed carry state. ;)
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Great Video! Thanks for the comparison!
Thanks for the comparison Alex. Very happy with my Q3 so far. The grip and charging mat are well worth getting too, if on the expensive side. I don't shoot jpeg but still interested in your assessment of the Leica looks. Cheers
Im sold watching this I need to upgrade. As a package this will soo improve my photography by 100%. Leica take my money
thanks for your review, the best review out Q2 v Q3 , I will be waiting for your focusing compare .
Long time subscriber, love your videos. Now looking for my first leica. What would be really awesome and i can't find it anywhere done properly just like in this video is. Q2 or Q3 vs M10/11. More importantly i see a lot of people saying the q2/3 lacks the leica 3d pop, the microcontrast you pay so much for. I've seen some photos which aren't really apple to apple and cant draw proper conclusion. So i'm here to ask you, please do this comparison. Or maybe if you dont feel like doing that, you can tell me whats your experience in the matter with a comment. Thanks a lot!
just realized im writing from my work laptop (oppssss) and its different youtube account. But at least i subscribed with 2 of them for this awesome channel.
Compare Sony A7RV + Sony 24mm GM F1.4 with Leica Q3 for optical quality
Nice comparison… I have the Q2 and perfectly happy with it! The Q3 may get much ( maybe) but the Q2 is still a great camera with that lens. Be safe, Cheers..😊
I own a Q2 and although I like the camera, I find the exposure metering indecent. I also own a Sony a7R5 and this one outclasses the Q2 in terms of exposure metering. Any outdoor portrait backlight puts the Q2 in crisis because the use in spots causes the highlights in the background to burn out.
To be honest even the automatic WB is questionable.
Regarding AF, I just hope that inheriting the Lumix S5II's AF might have improved the Q3's AF performance.
The Q2's FW updates brought improvements to AF. Unfortunately Leica implemented functions but the accuracy and reliability of the AF are poor and certainly not worthy of the cost of this camera.
However, I'm curious to try the Q3 to evaluate the change. Q2 is my everyday camera
Thanks for your work Alex.
Guns and Cameras ! Heck yes ! Great comparison video 😮
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Have you compared the dynamic range at 60MP vs 36MP. The M11 supposedly goes from from 14 to 15 stops when dropping the resolution. Would be interesting to see a comparison on the Q3
Leica had addressed this before. You can get the same results by shooting full resolution and downsizing in Lightroom. Watch this at minute 43 ua-cam.com/users/liveHIE-GQjiqYA?
feature=share
@@ABarrera Thanks for the reference. I guess that is to be expected since Lightroom does its own demosaicing from the photosite data anyway. I was hoping for magic
Yep so far better AF for certain but not yet in the same league as Canon or Sony’s. I bet firmware updates will further improve it though to get mostly there.
Amazing content 👍, as I know u have m11 too , what do u think about color which one is better q3 or m11 🙏
I don’t think one is better than the other. Both are very similar and incredible.
Great examples! Thanks for sharing
A nice upgrade isn’t a needed upgrade 🤷🏽♂️
I think the Q3 specs looks great on paper but if you can find the Q2 USED for a good price i would still purchase the Q2
I have this camera as well and I think your assessment is spot on. The Q3 is a solid half a stop better ISO and 13 more megapixels. Also better dynamic range that is actually quantifiable as well. I’m seeing the difference and I really enjoy it.
High ISO shadow recovery on LR with SL2 and Q2 sensors looks buggy. Try with C1Pro. Way different. Not sure why but you probably noticed when raising shadows on Q2 at high ISO there is like a point where it just flips out and introduces tons of buggy noise. C1 Pro doesnt
You are probably right but that would also mean the Q3 would look even better with C1Pro as well
@@Bryan-lu4du No actually. Its really something to do with the Sensor used in the Q2 and SL2. M10, M10R, M11, Q1, Q3 never displayed the same "bug". I say bug because its obvious how the noise jumps suddenly when raising shadows in LR with Q2 high ISO files
Am I crazy or does that last photo you shared look wider on the Q2? The odd thing is left to right it’s the same view but the depth (top and bottom) of the photo looks different. Is it possible that Leica included more correction to the same lens to get an actual 28mm focal length this time? What are your thoughts?
Could have been movement from hand holding or the tripod. They are the exact same lens and have the same corrections.
Thanks for the vid. I'd be interested in seeing some high ISO/noise testing using the binned pixel settings.
Leica had addressed this before. You can get the same results by shooting full resolution and downsizing in Lightroom.
@@ABarrera That's not what I'm referring to. In Leica's press materials to reviewers they claim that using the lower megapixel DNG pixel binned options increases dynamic range and lowers noise. I've yet to see anyone actually test that claim. MathPhotographer touches on it in his Q3 features video but doesn't test to confirm. ua-cam.com/video/3GBWoFeLApQ/v-deo.html
Watch this at minute 43 ua-cam.com/users/liveHIE-GQjiqYA?feature=share
@@ABarrera The statement in that video doesn't actually address their claim which is that the Q3 gains an additional stop of dynamic range when using the S-DNG and M-DNG over L-DNG. Lightroom can't miraculously gain an additional stop of dynamic range from a raw file that doesn't have it.
I brought it up because you specifically tested dynamic range in your video and if you're going to do that it's worth testing dynamic range across pixel binned versions since Leica is explicitly claiming an additional stop of dynamic range. It's fine though, my Q3 arrived this morning so I'll just test myself.
@@ABarrera Mathphotographer released an in depth video testing the pixel binning on the Q3 and provides extensive objective proof it does in fact increase dynamic range with the M-DNG being the best option. This is the question I was looking to have answered, although I didn't expect anyone to delve so deep into it.
ua-cam.com/video/YH3LT4229ug/v-deo.html
Please do a comparison of the video functioning of the Q2 vs Q3.
I am not sure there is a comparison. With the new AF and ability to shoot log the Q3 is a far superior camera.
@@ABarrera Maybe you could compare the Q3 video to the SL2-S video.
so good, thank you
I struggled to see those minute differences but that’s probably just my eyesight.
Great video and excellent comparison. Regarding your wardrobe choice, I assume you literally had to sell the shirt off your back to afford it.
Hey, it gets hot in Florida!
Fair enough! Hey, if I looked like you, I’d wear that shirt every day. Seriously thanks for the video,I found it very useful. I’m on the waiting list for my Q3. Still wrestling with whether to keep or sell my Q2 Monochrom.
Unless you really push your ISO I think you are going to be very happy with the Q3 for everything.
Came for the camera review, stayed for the eye candy Alex is.
Where did you order your Q3 from? Its in backorder everywhere =(
Got my order in at 9:01 AM on launch day 🤣
This is The Way.
Tempting upgrade for a Leica Q P owner and possibly good enough to get over a 2nd hand Q2.
There’s huge list of improvements. Hmmmm.
Very good review.☺️
In my country the difference between Q2 and Q3 is $2500...I think those improvements doesn't cost this amount))
Im just keeping my Q2 after watching this lol
Q2 battery life is longer and for an extra $3k, I can correct anything I dont like in post processing.
Leica went all out on Q3. Love seeing how much more improved the DR is over the Q2. Great comparison as always Alex! And I def agree with you, the Q2 is def gonna be a bargain this year.
Q3 is simply overpriced. A Q2 is absolutely sufficient to take beautiful pictures. For video? Nice gimmick, but the Q3 is not a video camera.
He did not managed to make equal exposures for not one single picture!
Used the exact same settings on both cameras.
Your look is serious or a joke ? 😅
How old are you? Why do you still buy Star Wars toys?
Promo_SM 😭