HOW TO SET MANUAL WHITE BALANCE FOR UNDERWATER FILMING
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Manual White Balance - the magic key to every good under water video footage.
In this video Vanessa explains to you what Manual White Balance is, what you need it for, and how you can improve your underwater videography a million times with it. Doing a manual white balance underwater is key and for this you will need white balancing cards.
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I'm so glad I found your videos! They're super helpful and super fun. And beautifully filmed. Vielen Dank!
Hi - your tutorial videos are so cool. I'm very new to diving (Sports Diver @ BSAC) and I'm just getting into underwater filming. You explain everything so well. Thank you
Wow! Didn't know you had teaching like this. Love your videos on Instagram. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with me!
Wow I love listening to you. Your subtle humor makes EVERYTHING you say interesting. I dive a beach in Thailand every day for 3-4 months out of the year with my Sony a6000. I've stopped using strobes and playing a lot my with MWB now.
Perfect explanation thanks! I love the studio setup in the background of your videos, it looks like a lot of effort went into that with the shelving and lighting etc. Very cool.
thanks!
Excellent explanation of white balance underwater, and the practicalities of setting it. Beautifully amusing too :-)
This is great. Really enjoying your underwater video series.
Awesome footage, great tips. Thanks!
Hi thank you so much for the sharing! I have been watching videos of UW photography for a week and it is my first video seeing a female photographer talking, plus in a really clear and super funny way!!! Will check all the videos on your channel :)
I really appreciate Vanessa's sense of humor and the time she takes to inject that humor into the video. Keep 'em coming Vanessa, I'm learning a lot from this channel. ~B
glad to hear ;) I do my best...
Thank you very much INDEED! Your advice is consistent with the laws of physics precisely - the the greater the length or weight of subject - the less chances for a vibration. Your lessons are very useful and practical. Wish you the best possible water clarity : )
Thank you Vanessa, very very useful and super clear, thx again
Awesome video Vanessa.
The AWB attached to the whiptail ray swimming away was hilarious.
Yeah I had a good laugh too 🤣
I can not tell you how much this video has improved the quality of my underwater photography! I am using an Olympus TG-5 and this one piece of knowledge has really brought back the color to my photos. Thank you Vanessa!
welcome Bill! :)
Georg Huss
Thanks a lot for this helpful and informative tutorial. After a long research in this field now I am eventually an enthuisiatic beginner with a Olympus EM1MII / Nauticam setup. So I am looking forward to your other videos. I am also amazed by the professional quality of your tutorials.
so happy to read this! Thank you!
Thanks for the video, really helps a lot
Haha I love your videos. Where the “auto white balance”-ray faded away into the coral made me laugh 😂
Amazing content, went filming to the reef yesterday (before watching this video), everything is blue. Going back in a couple of days with your tips! Muchas gracias, saludos desde Cancún!
Cheers and good luck! Let us know how it went!!! :) feel free to share with us!
Thanks a lot, great lesson. For compact cameras with wide angle lens I would recommend A3 size white plastic (used for posters printing), which you may fold to the size of your pocket.
Awesome video! Thanks a lot.
Also ich muss echt sagen, mit den Leuten von Backscatter, macht ihr/du die besten Tauchvideos im ganzen UA-cam! Ganz tolle Leistung 👍🏻
Wow daaaaankeeee
Great tutorial! Love it
Great information, thanks Vanessa.
Glad it was helpful!
awesome video thanks so much! This was really helpful and entertaining
Glad you enjoyed it, Vanessa is top!
Thank you.
Good explanations.
Such a helpful and well presented video. Thanks so much!
Pleasure!
Love your vids, so informative and funny
Hallo Vanessa, danke für die tollen Tips zum Thema Weissabgleich. 🐠🐡🐟🦑🐙🐚
😊😉😎
Thank you so much!!
Well done a brilliant video.
What a wonderful and lovely entertaining tutorial! I very much enjoyed it and learned quite a lot! Thank you!
It will take a few tries to get Hero 9 out of the casing to adjust the white balance, before I find the right setting. But, it is apparently obvious that it is important!
Question: Would you recommend to shoot with FLAT Color Setting - and not with over-saturated GoPro setting?
looking forward the upcoming episode! red filters and lighting!
in the making ;) stay tuned!
Just subscribed , your explanation is crystal clear , thank you so much and hopefully this can help improve my underwater shots , only trouble is I’m a free diver so it will be harder ha ha
Wiedermal ein toll gemachtes Video :) danke dafür
Daaankkkkkeeeeee
amazing video ! thanks
Yet another great video. Solid advice and well explained. I'll admit I'm lazy with WB and more often set kelvin manually and tweek in post. Gonna spend a day with my grey card and stop being lazy! I've used red filter on camera shallow but stopped using it when I moved to using video lights, so I'm really looking forward to the next episode. I use Sony and found the red filter cut out too much light, hence the reason I stopped using it. I did look into blue filters for video lights but again loosing a stop of light put me off. After your next episode I'm guessing the filter issue something I'll have to revisit.
But the Sonys have great low light, so bunping up ISO shouldnt be an issue! If the redfilter cuts out tooo much light get a less dense one. Defently worth it! :)
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Thanks a lot 🙏 great vid
Wiedereinmal ein super Video von dir.
Danke 😉
Amazing tutorial .. thanks
welcom! :)
Exceptional video!
super, vielen Dank, ja die kleinen Karten hatte ich auch probiert, das war so wie du erklärt hattest - nicht so ideal, auf jeden Fall sehr hilfreich das Video und werde es beim nächsten Mal testen
Danke 😎
Excellent. Learned some stuff!
great!
Thanks!
AMAZING, fantastic tutorial as usual. You rock girl! :)
😉😚💙 thanks...
Stop kissing ass pls
Just kidding. Love the vid!
REALLY INFORMATIVE VIDEO!!! THANK YOU FRIENDS! ❤️
Welcome 😊😉📽
Hi Vanessa, this may never be read but this is such helpful advice. So thank you for putting the time in and with such wonderful explanation!
If you do happen to catch this however - I have some loaded Q's as i'm doing something a bit different nowadays. Here are 2, one on light metering and use of vNDs for separation (that young turtle you guys filmed - I think it was a Red Sea shot, it looks so brilliant, I was simply wowed.
What do you think of using luminance/spectrometers to help with subject level color accuracy that would help in post? I know that devices like the c-700 Sekonic has a housing or 2, but if I have a shot list (i.e. a narrative film - we're in pre-prod) I need to work with , most of my time will be on FFM communicating w the surface, safety divers, etc yet juggling laminated shot lists, plus slates, plus middle gray or white cards (also small video color tests too to for more specific targets), but I've found it cumbersome if don't have an AC physically nearby to help with the efficient flow of getting good shots completed during the time we have while I'm making fairly constant adjustments to the camera on multi-level dives).
Lighting arrays for black background shots are something we've tried in the past, but that required a crew on its own. I've seen your video advice for lighting, but on one location, we're gonna need some powerful daylights for a scene that will take place on an open wreck at about 20m - avg viz 25m. But I know to get detail and separation, I'll have to stop the cam down. What are your thoughts on vND's to keep lenses at their largest aperture for DoF?
Excellent
thanks very nice , learning lot
Glad to hear that!!
Great video! Thank you. Do you do the white balance with the red filter on?
bro this content is awesome
Hi Iv just randomly come across this video. It was great. Iv been diving for 17 years and only messed around with GoPro type filming. But this has inspired me to start photographing. Can you recommend a camera for a total novice to start out with. Thanks Ian
Great and informative video! If using a GoPro (H10), would you recommend shooting in “Native” WB and then adjusting it in post-production? If so, what are some best tips for adjusting native WB in post? Cheers!
Hey Vanessa, danke für das super Video. Ich hoffe das bald Kameras mit RAW zu deutlich günstigeren Preisen auf den Markt kommen 🤣. Weißabgleich ist für mich Unterwasser echt ne Katastrophe 😁. Weiter so 👍🏻 AMMMMAZZZIINNG 😎
Daaaaaanke ;)
Thanks a lot, great videos here!
I've got one question left: How about white balance filters? I found those on the internet and really liked the idea. But they don't seem to be common, so I wonder why that is. Doesn't that work well?
Thanks in advance!
Very interesting as always, but don't forget Green Filters! It's not everywhere you will have perfect blue seas ;) Thanks again Vanessa!
you mean Magenta filters ;) On the list :) actually I am talking about them in the next episode already. Stay Tuned.
Thanks Vanessa not only very informative but entertaining as well
Dan
Trying my best 🥳🤠
Reef Patrol I have a very long way to go with my videos but maybe one day with your help they might come out a little better 🥴
Reef Patrol just got my first slr underwater camera and case the journey begins
Hopefully!!! If you have questions let us know please :)
Reef Patrol will
Do
cheers vey good info great
Very good video
Merci 😚
Awesome tutorial, unfortunately the is only dark water here in sweden :/, btw do you guys lock the exposure before going underwater? if so..what should i lock on, the darkest spot or the lightest one?
Great videos. I learned a lot and I will learn every day a little bit more. So, you're right with the automatic white balance under water. I tried it with and without the Keldan spectrum filter, the results aren't good. My camera is a Sony RX 100 III, with a manual white balance the measurement is always 9900K A-B:B0, G-M:M7, with or without the filter. The results are better, but in my opinion that can't be ok. The camera is limited to 9900k, for the former RX100 II Sony recommended 9900k A-B:B5, G-M:M7. I tried this setting but it wasn't good. So, the question is, is the reality above 9900k and the camera can't follow or is the realty below 9900k and the camera is damaged. I don't know. Maybe it's a Sony problem, maybe I did something wrong. What do you think with your experience.
thanks for that :)
Muss der Weissabgleich zwingend ohne Blaufilter vor den Lampen gemacht werden? und welches ist die Tiefe, auf welcher du auf die Blaufiltet verzichtest? Danke für deinen Aufwand, echt super Videos!
Thank you for a wonderful video, I would like to know how you stabilize your footage in Premier? Especially when currents are pushing the diver around a lot.
You can use warp stabilizer in Premiere or film with 120fps or so. Nice slowmotion so that will smooth out the shakyness. But usually no autofocus ;) if u use that.
Great content as usual. You touched on cameras that film in raw which is an unlikely option for most mere mortals.
What codec do you recommend and would you recommend shooting in S log.
It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on this considering most divers are recreational video makers and not working in film.
Yeah I touched on raw so one knows these are out there ;) tho blackmagic habe a small raw capable camera and for sure we will see more cheaper cameras with raw in the near future.. hopefully 😎📽
V log, C log, S log,... of course this is a great option! But it just totally depends. If you shoot in thoose you need to know your way around colorgrading, also setting focus and exposure can be challenging too especially if you dont habe a monitor and that can display luts.
So as this is a beginners series, I would not start with log just yet. I will cover log and everything later btw :) this will be a whole episode.
I usually use a natural color profile and dile down contrast saturation and sharpness a bit and try to get the best colors and exposure. Also it depends for who and what I shoot. If best quality is the goal then I will shoot in 400mbs 4k and 24p.
Thanks so much for your video! Can I ask, if I have video light, do I still need to use manual white balance? If this is needed, should I adjust the white balance while turning on the video light? Sorry for these questions and thx in advance for help!
Question:
When setting the white balance with a white reference card, do you under expose one stop in the moment you set the WB, or afterwards while filming?
I think I understood to under expose during the setting, but I find it difficult to understand the correct moment. Could you eleborate please!
In any case, thank you so much for the awesome tutorial.
Great video just subscribed. A bit off topic but for snorkelling would you recommend a gopro 7 or osmo action? Not seen any comparison vids on this - underwater will be the primary purpose of my action cam.
Both are great action cams. The osmo has a bit better stabilisation, but not sure how well it performes with WB. The Hero7 has ProTunes where you can set a sort of RAW WB that is not too bad actually.
Wonderful video Venessa! I started doing white balance from ocher color brain corals which is very abundant in Maldives. Since then I completely dropped the white slate. It makes the blue background really nice. What is your opinion about using this brownish brain corals?
You can use warmer tones to do the WB yes, it will give you a richer blue. It just depends on what kind of look you want to go for. Sometimes the warmer grey/skintones make sense sometimes not. Depends on the visibility light depth and scene ;) for macro I manly use grey for wide I sometimes choose sand over grey. Usually I do a testdive to check out the conditions and test the different colors of WB cards and sand etc.
Nice video can you please next time talk about blue filter for the video light
In the making ;)
I love your voice!
Can you set up white balance in gopro/dji osmo action? How do you approach that in action cameras?
hi vanessa what white balance would i set onto my gopro for this
Great video, thanks ! It helps a great deal !
One question though (I'm pretty new to this)… Once we've reached the intended depth of the dive, should I do the manual white balance with my dive torch ON (as I will probably use it to shine some light on the subject) or OFF, to set the manual wb to the ambient light / current depth and conditions ? ( I am using an Olympus TG-4 in its dedicated PT-056 housing and a hand-held 1000 lumen torch light, and I mostly take photos, not videos)
Thanks again for your video and your answer ;-)
@Olivier La Buse I often get mixed lights, as there often is light from the surface (I dive mostly in summer time, in the 20 to 45 m area) together with the torch I use to light the subject, but thank you for your time & your answer. I'll give a thought about using the temp of my torch for the wb, and I'll try to find the other videos about mixed lights. Thanks again, and nice dives !
Do you think there would be any advantage to using a color checker vs grey card? I've begun to use Davinci Resolve 16 which appears to have a "color match" for X-rite. Currently, I plan to use my fins (Grey Cressi Gara 3000 LD) and I'm 5"11...so ~1.5 meters from the camera. I’ll try it out ASAP, but I was wondering if I should investigate the color checker approach. You mentioned a prototype card in the vide.
at 10:41 you mention white balancing not being much use if subject is 1-1.5 m away. Any suggestions for shooting talent in a "white" outdoor swimming pool underwater? With a red filter the results were better but caused issues at shallow depth or split shots. Thanks for the info and content!
Wondering what setting best for Gopro? Unable to change during the dive. Would this be a case of trying to gauge which preset depending on max depth of dive and the conditions you expect to dive in? Thanks.
such a great tutorial Vanessa thank you very much, What do you recomend when we change our depth quickly. I am freediver in this is my main concern.. shooting scenes from the surface al the way to 15m and up makes almost impossible to have a correct white balance.
Actually depending on the lighting condition I d use a redfilter and set the Kelvin to around daylight if you are filming in daylight. Otherwise set a manual WB at the depth you will film most of your time. Will be hard to reset it every 1-2m sure. If you are doing one take then you have to choose at what depth you want the inage to look best and do a test run and pre set it.
@@ReefPatrol thank you so much for your reply, daylight WB works ok for shallow works indeed. I haven't tried with red filter yet and so far is always a compromise, as you said, of what depth I want my images to look the best. Great video and looking forward to keep learning from you 😊🙏
If youre diving at one depth, can you set the white balance ( TG 5 ) using the Kelvin scale and just keep it there ?
when it comes to snorkelling, should you just use the preset WB for different depths, e.g. shallow or deep?
Vanessa: how do you suggest those of us who don’t shoot expensive camera rigs (which I would venture to say are quite a few who follow you) address the white balance issue from a Go Pro, for example. Should we set AWB, or play around with a kelvin setting and ISO range, use filters and lights, and hope for the best?
When is the video light episode? I need it ASAP 😂 These vids make me happy.
Working on it. Any special questions abiut Video lights? Topics you want us to cover?
@@ReefPatrol Oh just the general stuff and how my new Scubalamp V6Ks are going to pair with my RX100 and turn me into a Nat Geo cameraman. Can you do that? :-) White balance with video lights would be cool..
@@ReefPatrol I like to see how to do white balance callibration with red filter fitted onto the camera in conjunction with different lighting options (strobes & video lights + ambient filter).
@@ReefPatrol where can we find this video?
also you can buy the rk3 apeks fins grey and do white balance there it isn't?
What if I do have a red filter? I assume setting WB after the filter is on would be correct?
What about auto underwater white balance on the sony a1 for example ? I have practice with the grey card , yes its always the best , but when diving in a group, there is not much time to white balance.
One question: would zooming-in on the grey card to fill the frame affect the white balance setting?
Would setting WB as you demonstrated make a difference for RAW files in still photography also or what you said applies to video only?
Hi. I shoot a lot of video with the Panasonic GH5S and rely on preset white balances. I use Keldan lights rated at 5500k when diving deeper than 20 ft. At deeper depths everything is blue unless I am close. At some point, as you go deeper the color will never be there in a wide shot. Do you have experience putting red filters between the sensor and lens to help correct for this? Filming with Gates Housings, I got spoiled from the flip down diopter.
Thanks
You have the most beautiful eyes and great humour .. keep it up .. I will be good student. 🌹
👍 Thanks 😊
so can i do a manual white balance on my gopro hero 8 black? do i set the WB to Native? and can i use a WB card with gopro?
guys where can I get those red filters for the back of the fish eye lenses???
What do you recommend for go pro 7 white balance?
Hello, I have an SJ8PRO, and used it to shoot my freedive sessions. Somehow, the color temperature changes erratically to different temps, mid shot. does this have anything to do with white balance? I set it on auto.
Wouldn't custom white balance on the temperature of your underwater lights solve any issue? Sorry if it's a dumb question but i've just purchased a Gh5 and i'm trying to figure out white balance for the first time!
the recommended white balance cards are big. how are they carried underwater?
Do you need a polarising filter on a gopro. I’m trying to do some fish filming in a shallow clear river, but the water is showing up like it’s opaque, losing all depth of field and detail. Colour is the least of my problems. I would appreciate any advice.
This may be a dumb question, but if the mixed light problem is a result of setting WB prior to turning lights on, why not set it with them on already? That is, set WB to the combined colour temp of ambient + auxiliary lights...
Does shooting video in V-Log help with bringing back lost colours in underwater footage, similar to filming in ‘raw’?
So are you saying that at depth, if you have a red filter, still set the White Balance with the filter on?
My dive buddy has white fins so i use those to set my white balance at varying depths
Good choice of buddy!