Excellent devotion to historical happenings Is what totally kept this project alive! Helping build other sections will prove to be what marvels they are or aren’t!
It's both a soaring statement of faith and Godliness and an enormous testament to misplaced hubris and the changing landscape of both NYC and Christianity in the United States. In the 19th century (the 1800's) the Episcopal church (Anglicanism's branch in America) had both wealth and influence but never great numbers. The Methodists and the Presbyterians and in the South, the Baptists had the numbers and more churches. They were the face of Protestant America. But Episcopalians ruled high society, the board rooms of many major businesses, several presidents, and Gilded Age wealth with names like J.P. Morgan, Vanderbilt and Astor, and even Hollywood royalty like Fairbanks and Pickford. So, with money from the good and the great, the New York Episcopal diocese in the late 1800's having done without a cathedral since the founding of the nation, chose to go big and build one. One that would make a bold statement for both faith and power, even if by then New York city was controlled by non-Protestants (Tammany Hall the Democrat machine was then Irish catholic) and the new waves of immigrants were Italians and Jews, from Russia and eastern Europe. It would be huge, and it would be expensive to build as it was medieval stone upon stone architecture. But it would also dwarf St. Patrick's down in midtown, and back then Episcopal congregations were often Republican to the core. Take that Tammany Irish Dems. And so, hubris triumphed over caution. Along came not one but two World Wars. Construction ground to a halt. Money migrated form the WASP elite to the new immigrant groups. Suddenly what was once seen as both a triumph of faith for the thinking and management class became a huge white elephant. It will never be finished, and the question must sadly be asked why attempt it? Even the Roman Catholics are now merging and shutting some city parish churches, as population patterns change, and faith declines. It is still a stunning statement in stone but more like western Europe's half empty churches loved by tourists and the elderly.
Brilliant video and wonderful information. That space that I lived up the street from was my favourite space to sort of meditate in and hope to catch Alec Wyton practicing on the magnificent pipe organ there (my absolute favourite in NYC) back in the late 60's and early 70's. That fire in 2001 and the smoke/soot caused much damage to many things including to the great organ that needed to be removed, cleaned and restored to the alleged sum of 8 million dollars and on Palm Sunday 2019, yet another fire this time in the crypt might've put the great organ in peril yet again (that's being evaluated now). I wish that the funds hadn't dried up for finishing the bell towers. I wish them well, it really is a most beautiful church building.
Did they ever get the pipe organ returned to operating condition??? Sad - the vibration of old pipe organs are rumored to heal our internal organs = easing the Diss-ease of the spirit.
@@ms.donaldson2533 Yes they sure did and there are a ton of videos on UA-cam of it including the re-dedication of the Cathedral. The organ was restored to glorious effects only to be silenced again on Palm Sunday 2019 due to another fire that involved smoke and soot. Now all 8K plus pipes of the organ must be removed again cleaned and restored. I recorded a handful of videos on the organ in 2011, which hopefully gives you an idea of what that much beloved and treasured organ sounded like. So sorry for the much delayed response as I had no idea that you posted a question. I thank you immensely for your question. Be well and be safe! ua-cam.com/video/-KG9x3eObic/v-deo.html
@@bhigdaddymark the Elders of my past said "Organs healed organs" I will sub for organ sounds. No worries Darling! This is the internet, not real life, I took no offense to the timely response. Have a wonderfully B-E-A-utiful day!
Very inspiring and spiritually stimulating, thank you. I do hope one day the cathedral will be completed according to the Cramm desgin, so magnificent!
As Sagrada Familia is finished in Barcelona, efforts should turn to completing St John the Divine. Surely it will take many decades--all the more reason to get to work!
This is such a stunning space, which I've only had the pleasure of seeing from the outside. BTW, a church being a repository for art doesn't make it satanic or masonic. It makes it Anglican. :)
After all that, which was interesting, surely, not one syllable about the famous Skinner pipe organ - or any of the other organs which have graced this place with divine music. You should complete your story.
It is not uncommon that cathedrals are built over several centuries. Cologne Cathedral took over 600 years to complete, and also Sagrada Familia has not reached completion. Why stop now ;-)
i do find it funny that the cathedral was basically inspired by rich Anglo-Americans wanting to out do poor Irish immigrants. But even then what did the Anglicans draw from? catholic churches from Europe! hate us cus you aint us! just joshing, wonderful church
Perhaps it will be completed, perhaps not. One must ask the question is this how Jesus would have us spend our time, money and resources, when so many suffer deprivation and homelessness. Do we build these structures to the glory of God or the inflate our own egos?
The proportions of this massive structure lack the elegance of other comparable structures, such as Saint Patrick's. For example, the large interior granite columns are fully round in plan, unlike the bundled columns that are typical of Gothic cathedrals, those having an emphasis on the vertical. There are notable features, admittedly, and our great grand children may one day see this structure completed.
I LOVE IT!!! I sing there in the Cathedral Chorale and I get chills. I am still pinching myself after 12 years singing in the Chorale.
Fascinating documentary! However, not one word about the magnificent pipe organ and the world renown State Trumpet. What a shame!
What a beautiful cathedral. I hope someday I will visit this church. The structure is awesome. Praise God, Praise Jesus Christ 🙏😇🇻🇦✝️
Even those without faith are moved by their visit to this magnificent cathedral.
Excellent devotion to historical happenings Is what totally kept this project alive! Helping build other sections will prove to be what marvels they are or aren’t!
It's both a soaring statement of faith and Godliness and an enormous testament to misplaced hubris and the changing landscape of both NYC and Christianity in the United States. In the 19th century (the 1800's) the Episcopal church (Anglicanism's branch in America) had both wealth and influence but never great numbers. The Methodists and the Presbyterians and in the South, the Baptists had the numbers and more churches. They were the face of Protestant America. But Episcopalians ruled high society, the board rooms of many major businesses, several presidents, and Gilded Age wealth with names like J.P. Morgan, Vanderbilt and Astor, and even Hollywood royalty like Fairbanks and Pickford.
So, with money from the good and the great, the New York Episcopal diocese in the late 1800's having done without a cathedral since the founding of the nation, chose to go big and build one. One that would make a bold statement for both faith and power, even if by then New York city was controlled by non-Protestants (Tammany Hall the Democrat machine was then Irish catholic) and the new waves of immigrants were Italians and Jews, from Russia and eastern Europe. It would be huge, and it would be expensive to build as it was medieval stone upon stone architecture. But it would also dwarf St. Patrick's down in midtown, and back then Episcopal congregations were often Republican to the core. Take that Tammany Irish Dems. And so, hubris triumphed over caution. Along came not one but two World Wars. Construction ground to a halt. Money migrated form the WASP elite to the new immigrant groups. Suddenly what was once seen as both a triumph of faith for the thinking and management class became a huge white elephant. It will never be finished, and the question must sadly be asked why attempt it? Even the Roman Catholics are now merging and shutting some city parish churches, as population patterns change, and faith declines. It is still a stunning statement in stone but more like western Europe's half empty churches loved by tourists and the elderly.
Wow AMAZING AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL
Thanks, gracia's
Amazing place, looks so holy.
not
It isn't.
Apocalyptic images designed by zionist masons. This is propaganda.
It's atmosphere moves even secular people.
Definetly not!
Brilliant video and wonderful information. That space that I lived up the street from was my favourite space to sort of meditate in and hope to catch Alec Wyton practicing on the magnificent pipe organ there (my absolute favourite in NYC) back in the late 60's and early 70's. That fire in 2001 and the smoke/soot caused much damage to many things including to the great organ that needed to be removed, cleaned and restored to the alleged sum of 8 million dollars and on Palm Sunday 2019, yet another fire this time in the crypt might've put the great organ in peril yet again (that's being evaluated now). I wish that the funds hadn't dried up for finishing the bell towers. I wish them well, it really is a most beautiful church building.
Did they ever get the pipe organ returned to operating condition??? Sad - the vibration of old pipe organs are rumored to heal our internal organs = easing the Diss-ease of the spirit.
@@ms.donaldson2533
Yes they sure did and there are a ton of videos on UA-cam of it including the re-dedication of the Cathedral. The organ was restored to glorious effects only to be silenced again on Palm Sunday 2019 due to another fire that involved smoke and soot. Now all 8K plus pipes of the organ must be removed again cleaned and restored. I recorded a handful of videos on the organ in 2011, which hopefully gives you an idea of what that much beloved and treasured organ sounded like. So sorry for the much delayed response as I had no idea that you posted a question. I thank you immensely for your question. Be well and be safe!
ua-cam.com/video/-KG9x3eObic/v-deo.html
@@bhigdaddymark the Elders of my past said "Organs healed organs" I will sub for organ sounds. No worries Darling! This is the internet, not real life, I took no offense to the timely response. Have a wonderfully B-E-A-utiful day!
I kept waiting for information on the Aeolian Skinner pipe organ but none was given! What a dreadful omission.
Very inspiring and spiritually stimulating, thank you. I do hope one day the cathedral will be completed according to the Cramm desgin, so magnificent!
As Sagrada Familia is finished in Barcelona, efforts should turn to completing St John the Divine. Surely it will take many decades--all the more reason to get to work!
Hardly anyone is Episcopalian anymore. No wonder. They don't follow Christianity much anymore. Very woke shell of a church.
I would love to visit this place someday, so thank you for this documentary.
I just saw it. It was amazing. The outside pillars are super creepy
Make it your mission to visit it, you'll be left breathless...
This is such a stunning space, which I've only had the pleasure of seeing from the outside. BTW, a church being a repository for art doesn't make it satanic or masonic. It makes it Anglican. :)
Not when it’s sodomite friendly and allowing unscriptually “ ordained” women.
After all that, which was interesting, surely, not one syllable about the famous Skinner pipe organ - or any of the other organs which have graced this place with divine music.
You should complete your story.
Amen 🙏.
My, Family Church🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
It is not uncommon that cathedrals are built over several centuries. Cologne Cathedral took over 600 years to complete, and also Sagrada Familia has not reached completion. Why stop now ;-)
There is no way regular men built this place. It was built by giants. Look at the size of doors on this building. The size of the interior.
Youre right , no ordinary man wouldve ever built it.
Intellectual giants, indeed. Dr Cram was a visionary.
@@JWall416 giant Minds ,not giant bodies !
I see what you did there, though others probably won't ;-)
i do find it funny that the cathedral was basically inspired by rich Anglo-Americans wanting to out do poor Irish immigrants. But even then what did the Anglicans draw from? catholic churches from Europe! hate us cus you aint us! just joshing, wonderful church
Perhaps it will be completed, perhaps not. One must ask the question is this how Jesus would have us spend our time, money and resources, when so many suffer deprivation and homelessness. Do we build these structures to the glory of God or the inflate our own egos?
The proportions of this massive structure lack the elegance of other comparable structures, such as Saint Patrick's. For example, the large interior granite columns are fully round in plan, unlike the bundled columns that are typical of Gothic cathedrals, those having an emphasis on the vertical. There are notable features, admittedly, and our great grand children may one day see this structure completed.
Definitely a mystery in there...
I have always felt that