SCP - 033 | The Missing Number (SCP Orientation)
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2021
- SCP Orientation is an archive of files of the SCP Foundation.
Today we will be studying item number SCP-033: The Missing Number, Object class: Euclid.
Note: A debriefing of Prof. Hutchinson after his first observation of SCP-033 has been added to this report for further clarification
SCP-033 appears as a field of complex mathematical symbols ranging from simple layman-identifiable representations to those only interpretable by highly-trained mathematicians. As all modern mathematical calculations are performed lacking the knowledge or use of SCP-033, its introduction into any system organized without it begins eroding the numerical and eventually structural integrity of said system.
“Imagine if all our technology was based on the belief that after 4 came 6. We simply didn't know or conceive of 5. That is, in essence, what this formula proves-we missed a number.” -Prof. Hutchinson
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This actually happened in the real world. In 1900 Philosopher and mathematician Bertrand Russell discovered "Russell's Paradox" which fundamentally broke math and casted doubt on all mathematical proofs written before that time. It threw the math world into screaming chaos until 3 years later when Russell published the first volume of Principia Mathematica which contained the first flawless proof that 1 + 1 = 2. Throughout the rest of the book (and following volumes) he uses this first proof to reconstruct most of the rest of mathematics. The math world breaths a sigh of relief and went about proving all the remaining gaps using Russell's new methods.
You use chatgpt to write that
Imagine if Godel had a third incompleteness theorem and its basically this SCP. Humanity is screwed.
Ah yes, SCP-033, another mathmatical subject that I will never understand and it's paranormal too.
What you think of as normal three dimensional space (before all the relativity stuff and quantum mechanics). In mathematics is called Euclidean space or Euclidean Geometry (hence horror writer H.P. Lovecraft talking so much about non-euclidean geomerty, that's just any space or object that isn't "normal").
For a space to be Euclidean it has to meet a set of 8 axioms (an axiom is just a mathematical statement about something). If any mathematical set or body (or universe) meets all 8 axioms then it is a Euclidean space and all the algebra, geometry, and trigonometry they tried to teach you in high-school applies. If any one of them isn't obeyed then you need an entirely different mathematical system to describe it and it is non-euclidean (mathematicians usually keep this kind of math to themselves as very few people have need of it except theoretical physicists).
One of the axioms alow for the construction of the integers (also called the county numbers or the set of numbers {1,2,3,4,5,...ect}). This SCP supposedly is a mathematical proof that the integers as defined conain an additional element (number) let's call it ϕ (because I want to talk about it, I have to call it something, and I think the Greek letter phi looks cool). So the new integers would be I = {ϕ} U {1,2,3,...}, but this is a known mathematical set! It is ω1 also known as The First Uncountable Ordinal, and it's mathematical properties are very different from the integers I. If you try to go on and verify the other 7 axioms you run into problems immediately. If you try to use ω1 to construct Q (set of all fractions with integers in the numerator and denominator) it gets all F-up. Then trying to use Q to build IR (set of all real numbers) you would get a Uncountable Infinite (Bigger then infinite or countable infinity, but smaller then complex infinity [don't ask]) number of new numbers everywhere between every existing pair of numbers.
The details aren't important, suffice it to say it would fail some of the other axioms. This would mean that the universe we live in isn't Euclidean and that the mathematical models that things like chemical bonds, atomic structures, electron orbitals, and atomic nuclei structure that all things have been observed to be carefully obey in all available data are fundamental invalid, and may fail at any moment.
If the matter these objects were on didn't disintegrate so quickly they would likely also disobey laws of probability, economics, marketing, optimization and anything else that could be described by equations.
@@Lawsonomy1 8 axioms? What are the last three?
We can use it to kill 079
@@xeno2752 I was confused by your comments so I went to check, and it appears Euclid did originally purpose 5 axioms ... however it has been quite a number of centuries since then and math has moved on considerably. I swear I saw a proof using only 8 axioms in graduate school but in Real Analysis 3ed edition (by H.L. Royden) generally regarded as the definitive work on the subject I could only find a sketch that used 14 axioms. It appears using an axiomatic definitions has fallen out of favor recently so their wasn't much freely available online, but after some digging I found the bellow that uses 13 axioms. Personally I also hold the *Axiom Of Choice* but that is one of the great nerd fights and not necessary. Here are the details:
"(P1) (Associative law for addition): a + (b + c) = (a + b) + c
(P2) (Existence of additive identity): ∃ 0 : a + 0 = 0 + a = a
(P3) (Existence of additive inverse): a + (−a) = (−a) + a = 0
(P4) (Commutative law for addition): a + b = b + a
(P5) (Associative law for multiplication): a · (b · c) = (a · b) · c
(P6) (Existence of multiplicative identity): ∃ 1 6= 0 : a · 1 = 1 · a = a
(P7) (Existence of multiplicative inverse): a · a−1 = a−1· a = 1 for a 6= 0
(P8) (Commutative law for multiplication): a · b = b · a
(P9) (Distributive law): a · (b + c) = a · b + a · c
Order Axioms: there exists a subset of positive numbers P such that
(P10) (Trichotomy): exclusively either a ∈ P or −a ∈ P or a = 0.
(P11) (Closure under addition): a, b ∈ P ⇒ a + b ∈ P
(P12) (Closure under multiplication): a, b ∈ P ⇒ a · b ∈ P
Completeness Axiom: a least upper bound of a set A is a number x such that x ≥ y for all
y ∈ A, and such that if z is also an upper bound for A, then necessarily z ≥ x.
(P13) (Existence of least upper bounds): Every nonempty set A of real numbers which is bounded above has a least upper bound.
We will call properties (P1)-(P12), and anything that follows from them, elementary arithmetic. These properties imply, for example, that the real numbers contain the rational numbers as a subfield, and basic properties about the behavior of ‘>’ and ‘
It's the number 4.5 written in such a way that it anomalously destroys data sets containing it.
Yeah I guess it's just 4.5 but a whole number
@@CrafterDaemon makes sense. That means 9 isn't an odd number. So no wonder they system would be messed up.
This is a fascinating concept in real life; the idea that the real world has mathematically simple concepts that humans are simply unable to recognize or conceive of. So strange yet actually very possible.
Yeah, just like trying to think in a higher spatial dimension than 4D. Even a 4th Dimension ontop of 3D is kinda hard to think about, unless you consider the 4th dimension as time.
@@brianpj5860 totally! I only JUST managed to figure out how to calculate pi (thanks Numberphile!) and it is such a basic building block of our universe yet completely irrational and thus not fully definable with written numbers.
That theory itself creates a paradox and contradiction of the other
AI should eventually be able to fill those gaps. You know, there is a reason the millennium prize problems exist. We simply haven’t invented the logical tools to grasp them yet. We don’t even know why 3n+1 if odd and divide by 2 if even (repeated) always leads to 1.
It ties onto that Lovecraftian belief that there are just some things the human mind can never comprehend
I'm already horrible with math
So this horrifies me as it is
4
@@theunknown5564 5
Maybe you are bad at math because humans missed a number
This actually happened in the real world. In 1900 Philosopher and mathematician Bertrand Russell discovered "Russell's Paradox" which fundamentally broke math and casted doubt on all mathematical proofs written before that time. It threw the math world into screaming chaos until 3 years later when Russell published the first volume of Principia Mathematica which contained the first flawless proof that 1 + 1 = 2. Throughout the rest of the book (and following volumes) he uses this first proof to reconstruct most of the rest of mathematics. The math world breaths a sigh of relief and went about proving all the remaining gaps using Russell's new methods.
@@theunknown5564 It wouldn't be a named number because those are already part of our system. It would be something like σ*.
So this is the loneliest number
Bhahahahahahahahaha 🙃👍🏻
and also not the longest Warthog
So wait, the number is one.
...that we'll never know.
@@Knuspermonster NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is definitely one of the oddest scps
This SCP is proof that SCP foundation is really based on science.
And that it is real.
stonk science be like Germanium can do many stuff but can't compete with something dat is either better or same
@@dewaldsteyn1306 lmao ok
Mathematics isn't science. It is what is known in philosophy as a priori knowledge (that which exists before experance). A mathematical proof is statement of logic. If A then B. It is true regardless of what time or even what universe you are in (it doesn't matter if A or B are physically impossible in a given universe, the proof still shows if A then B).
Since Math does not require evidence from the physical world it is not science and the practice of math predates the scientific method by several thousand years.
@@britishneko3906 I have no idea what this sentence even means. What are you trying to say?
Hey, mathematician here. Wrote this bare bones explanation of why this SCP does what it does. Tried to explain all the terminology, if I missed anything you don't understand feel free to reply and let me know:
What you think of as normal three dimensional space (before all the relativity stuff and quantum mechanics). In mathematics is called Euclidean space or Euclidean Geometry (hence horror writer H.P. Lovecraft talking so much about non-euclidean geomerty, that's just any space or object that isn't "normal").
For a space to be Euclidean it has to meet a set of 8 axioms (an axiom is just a mathematical statement about something). If any mathematical set or body (or universe) meets all 8 axioms then it is a Euclidean space and all the algebra, geometry, and trigonometry they tried to teach you in high-school applies. If any one of them isn't obeyed then you need an entirely different mathematical system to describe it and it is non-euclidean (mathematicians usually keep this kind of math to themselves as very few people have need of it except theoretical physicists).
One of the axioms alow for the construction of the integers (also called the county numbers or the set of numbers {1,2,3,4,5,...ect}). This SCP supposedly is a mathematical proof that the integers as defined conain an additional element (number) let's call it ϕ (because I want to talk about it, I have to call it something, and I think the Greek letter phi looks cool). So the new integers would be I = {ϕ} U {1,2,3,...}, but this is a known mathematical set! It is ω1 also known as The First Uncountable Ordinal, and it's mathematical properties are very different from the integers I. If you try to go on and verify the other 7 axioms you run into problems immediately. If you try to use ω1 to construct Q (set of all fractions with integers in the numerator and denominator) it gets all F-up. Then trying to use Q to build IR (set of all real numbers) you would get a Uncountable Infinite (Bigger then infinite or countable infinity, but smaller then complex infinity [don't ask]) number of new numbers everywhere between every existing pair of numbers.
The details aren't important, suffice it to say it would fail some of the other axioms. This would mean that the universe we live in isn't Euclidean and that the mathematical models that things like chemical bonds, atomic structures, electron orbitals, and atomic nuclei structure that all things have been observed to be carefully obey in all available data are fundamental invalid, and may fail at any moment.
If the matter these objects were on didn't disintegrate so quickly they would likely also disobey laws of probability, economics, marketing, optimization and anything else that could be described by equations.
I'm just a layman, mathematics wise, but this was just so goddamn fascinating
as a person dyscalculia, I can relate to the foudation
Ah yes, SCP-079's greatest threat.
These types of thought-provoking SCPs are my favorites.
I want to know what happens to children born of that number. Could make it's own SCP?
Or could explain an existing SCP race or creature?
So basically it tries to fix math but doing so will disrupt everything because math has been broken for so long
It basically divides by 0 infinite times
Pretty much
the "for so long" being since the genesis of this universe
its the god that created it that missed that number when inscribing the consept of math into his creation, and now the world itself cant handle the existance of that number
@@kurokami5964 Which god tho
lmfao
@gadoplays8478 the god of the scp world
Dunno if its just the local universe or the whole second Hytoth
Ah, so that’s what the answer to life, the universe, and everything was referencing. If you know, you know.
So 42 was what was put in SCP-033's place
what I feel when I make a mistake in a test: *thumbnail*
i feel like the person who wrote this SCP originally, wasnt the best at math >_> in this, it says the number is an "integer", which is just a whole number, so 0, 1, 2, 3 etc, but also in the negative direction as well. if it was, say, an irrational this would be fine, but saying its an integer is just, non-sensical. and the 'base' of a number system is arbitrary, made up. binary is a base 2 number system and our 'normal' number system is base 10, but in both, math still works the same. there is no 'missing' one of the base numbers because they are completely and utterly arbitrary. you could make a base 8 or 13, or 21, or 314 number system if you wanted. we just use 10 because we have 10 fingers
Well, it's an anomaly. You cannot expect from it that it will follow rules, even the rules humans made up. Yes, it does not make sense, but it's an anomaly, those doesn't care what you think is possible or how things work.
basically the writer assumed that math was discovered in nature and we somehow didnt discover the possibility of a "missing link" until 033 was found. but since the base for the numerical system we use is arbitrary, there can be no missing number, only that the math used in the formulae of 033 just uses an arbitrarily altered mathematical system?
@@kenpanderz672 Yea that's about right
@Caleb Hamm correct. the number of digits and what those digits are is entirely subjective. humans use base 10 because we have 10 fingers, computers use base 2 because its easy to build them lie that, just an on or off. but you could make it count like 0, 1, 2, 3, 10 (our 4), 11 (our 5), 12 (our 6) etc.....
@Caleb Hamm yea thats what i was saying, even from a fictional standpoint, this just doesnt make any kind of sense at all.
I've always been VERY bad at math, so this is a new kind of fascinating and scary idea for me xD
Hey I caught missing number in Pokémon Red.
i LOVE this series, keep the good work my friend. PLEASE, keep the good work. you really need all the freaking subscribers. Be patient, and keep it coming.
04:31 *_"You were over-rated Karen's intelligence, doctor."_*
I'm a little disappointed that it is an integer. If there was a number that broke math/logic/reality I would expect it to be part of the Cantor Set. That thing is almost an SCP anyway.
What more terrifying than math?
An anomalous math
Math 2
Ancient wizards of the past: So, the arts of alchemy and numerology are lost now. You cannot combine the clockwork math with the element of water on the chaos border. Pray you don't find the lost rune of fire that borders on chaos. It's far more horrific, especially when it unpredictably turns to anti-fire... it's not cold, it's anti-heat.
Cold is a human construct to describe the absence of an arbitrary amount of thermal energy in a given medium; there is no cold, only the absence of heat. Unless we're talking about mint. That shit just isn't natural, no matter how refreshingly pleasant it may be.
@@Brutalyte616 Okay, let me translate it from the simple fact that heat and energy are the same thing, my friend. Cold is a relative term, true. But heat is energy and there is a bottom, a "maximum cold", the absence of energy, absolute zero. Anti-fire, anti-heat, is not something that takes away heat. It is something that applies anti-heat. It does not exist in actual science because it cannot exist. With anti-heat, it can get colder than absolute zero. As for the mint thing, we are so totally on the same page on that one. Also, never consume a lot at once.
@@That80sGuy1972 That's sort of the joke, although Absolute Zero isn't actually the coldest temperature possible. Absolute Zero is the point at which the motion of particles that would generate thermal energy ceases, reducing everything to a truly inert state. At least in theory. In actual fact, Absolute Zero is a theoretical concept, and one we have yet to achieve and therefore verify with full scientific certainty. And even then, our understanding of Absolute Zero as a concept is based on the idea of ceasing the creation of thermal energy based on the movement of particles, and not necessarily the reduction of heat energy to its lowest possible point.
And no, thermal energy is not the only form of energy. Case in point? Kinetic energy, the interaction of bodies with mass in relative space. There's also the ever nebulous concept of potential energy and other more abstract concepts, like the idea of the gravitational pull of all bodies with any discernible mass being pervasive throughout the universe irrespective of size. Although at this point we're debating at what point we distinguish forces from energy, which is basically just drawing a line in the sand for the sake of our own sanity and the integrity of the models by which we define said sanity...
@@Brutalyte616 I know... and you kind of missed my snark. ;P
This guys voice makes me so sleepy
Man keep it up. I need that daily scp video.
One of the most interestingly designed SCPs and not some Edgy mass murdering creature
“We missed a number.”
Why does that concept terrify me to my core?
Same
Incomplete programming.
Among many of the satirical SF scenarios in Alfred Bester's* story "5, 721, 009" is the story of the human race being unable to find a way to deafeat alien invaders as their cputers fail to work . . . Until the hero discovers that 6 comes after 5. Just as he is about to do so before the UN and save the world, hundreds of other people start realizing the same thing and flooding the UN with the observation.
Bester was sick of the old SF trope of one person realizing something everyone else missed. But this turns that idea on its head
*No, not THAT Alfred Bester - the real one who wrote the Green Lantern Oath.
I love this scp. Watching it during a break in filming -- it's got me thinking of ideas relating to tales connecting with it, possibly with other scps or Independently.
Has this been connected to an scp-001 proposal yet? It makes me think of Aronofsky's pi film.
No, but it’s linked to a bigger skip, SCP-3125. You might know it from the whole Antimemetics narrative and the Fifthist Church Rabbit Hole.
Nice job with the orientation
I was just waiting for this video
The universe tries to fix a logic error.
I feel like this SCP would be better if it didn't destroy things it was put on.
Like, this would be so much spookier and, generally better, in my opinion.
If it was just a legit mathematical equation that proved that that number existed.
Because this one seems like its from a different dimension or something. While this way it'd mean that, all of our maths and science is wrong.
And that kind of thing is possible with maths. I remember in one of my math's lessons, our teacher had us studying an equation that, through a convolted series of things, make 1+1 = 3
It got messed up because, at one point in the equation, there was essentially a Divide by 0
I agree, it should only really "destroy" electronics as a sort of Y2K type system malfunction as our machines weren't built with a system to comprehend theta prime
Keep up the good work
This number is called "Keleven" and was discovered by genius Kevin Malone.
Why waste time saying lot words when few words do trick?
05:30 _"What is on your hand , doctor..?"_
its a clipboard? so?
1 + 1 =
Bleem.
11
Would be more interesting if they cut out the whole magical aspect of it being semi-sentient and copying itself and trying to escape physical representation, and instead just made it an abstract cognitohazard that had to be isolated for mankind's own good.
If you're interested in this kind of SCP, check out "Division by Story" by Ted Chiang. Short story about a related concept.
I could be wrong......., but I think I remember another channel talk about this... Involving one of the O5. He talk about how his brother discover this formula and that lead to the creation of other Scp which they released so it can be "discover " by the foundation
So close to my favorite scp
Chemistry: _what’s going on man it’s turning into different elements what do we do_
Biology: Heck if I know it turned plant matter into something not plant
Physics: IT’S MOVING WHY IS IT MOVING
Mathematics: *Incomprehensible gibberish*
Philosophy: Clearly the number omelette wishes to join the rest of the integers. But why tho?
It might actually be a simple concept that we're simply looking at incorrectly.
Do you know when 2+2=5? When you are adding 2.4 to 2.3 , rounding to the nearest whole number before recording each integer.
This doesn’t have to do with anything, but your beard is cool
@@user-fp1he9mk8v I'm very pleased with it.
When the plague has passed us by, I'm planning to dye it (and my shoulder-length hair) the red it was when I was fresh out of the Navy.
I like how the thumbnail suggests it's a number between 3 and 4.
you mean Derf, why was that episode of icarly allowed?
Toddler: counts 1-100
Me an scp expert, you might have missed one
4:06 the nuke room from scp secret lab
As my parents say when they helped me with math homework: “math is math! You don’t change math! It’s math!”
I aways thought of that, that we humans could have missed a number that solves all problems we cant understand
YES I KNOW THE ANSWER HAHA FINNALY I CAN PASS SUMMERSCHOOL!!! gosh that was hard! Thank you for the help THANK YOU!!
wait whats 1x1?
So no one has thought to scribble this on 682?
I mean 1 of 3 things are going to happen.
(1) 682 simply gets erased.
(2) 682 becomes a living equation one that can contain, and solve 033 (creating a sort of symbiosis) forcing 682 and 033 into a higher state of existence.
(3) 682 body rejects 033 forcing it to reduce its own Value to a such a degree rendering it to become a inert solveable equation.
Subscribed. 👍🏻✅👊🏻😎
it's basically too smart for us
That's the reason why the sum of all natural numbers is equal to -1/12
So it just like opp of zero?antizero?
Orez?
@@briangreen1781 a positive electron is not a proton or is it
Mathematical antimatter. XD
@@SulemanKhan-hb1hl positron, but that would be putting it lightly
@@deusmachinima1189 finally after 7 months some one got it
4:32 But Big Shaq knows 'minus 1 that's three, quick maths.'
I'm very surprised that the formulae didn't get tattooed onto some unlucky D-Class to study the effects.
To uneven
So know how we live in 3d space. This scp 0033 sounds like higher dimensional maths, that rather then sublimation, pulls the object in to the next plane.. plain.. yeah one of them..
Ah yes math scp
nice
at 1:41 who is that in the left screen (drinking smth?)
Yeah thats weird. Are they starting to put easter eggs in the videos?
He's always been there.
He is a researcher watching scp thing
Spoilers:
This missing number is an anomaly that applies the zenon paradox to any organized numerical system.
So...they're saying numbers should be in base 11 instead of base 10?
Missing Number has actually been neutralized. You can thank Linkara for that
After looking into it it appears that the missing number is 🥧 and that it's why 🥧 is without end as we messed up
They found a mathematical problem to dissolve plastic.
Can I hear the Silent Hill siren in the background? o3o
This is a Pattern Screamer!!
What if they put it on the human body it tattoo or Wright on it
I love this thumbnail 😂
A math equation that gnarly it breaks anything it is written on if left longer than 42 minutes?
Okay this one seems pretty goofy to me. Numbers, like time, are just human constructed units to help us make sense of the world around us.
But how do the researchers even understand this?
So the actual anomaly is how we missed the number
Darkseid enters chat
Ha good one lol
It's 1 more than 23, 1 less than 42, and always divisible by 13.
What Mathematicians believe will happen when you divide by 0
I did my homework, but it faded into nothing at 2560 seconds.
isnt the number called U something?
That dosent make any sence
It dosen't matter 'if we missed a number'
Say if after 4 came 6 then the '6' would just be the new five case then 4 +1 would be 6
And anything after four would just have their value -1
So the answer is 42?
imbetween 34 and 35.
2+2=
22
We got Monsters, freaky events, dangerous crazy object and theres um… missing number… um k lol
Has this SCP been tested on a D-class. Ahhh, who am I kidding. Of course it has.
This SCP is a person who hates mathematics.
basicly " ERROR 404, that does not Compute"
Math is scary
This is crazy. But why do I feel it can be true?
Day 8 I complete this útil tomorrow
It's between 33 and 34
In summary, math is scary.
Why is 29 afraid of 84? Because 19394228 39392722 28392226994
Should make grahams number a scp
So 2+2... = 10 now?
To be completely honest I did not understand anything here. Can yall summarise it in the comment for me pls?
I bet the number is somewhere between 6 & 9.
0:22 Papyrus?!?!?!
Undertale
why not just store each symbol on a different piece of paper in the right order
The number is "Bleem"
yeeee