@@goldenking2046 Honestly, I think Stheno works better as a divine and/or anti male support than Keisuke does as a Shinsengumi support (not to mention her niches cover a whole lot more ground than his pool of 8 servants including himself). And I remember that for at least one raid event my best team comp was Stheno+Ridertoki+(50% charge support) even if that was a while ago.
@@Jack_Rakanthe worst part about keisuke as a shinsengumi support is that, Lan ling basically provides similar buffs, but without the niche and also being permanent
Keisuke's crappyness is the opposite of S-Gareth. He has a dis functional kit that doesn't really accomplishes anything, while S-Gareth has a usable kit but struggles to accomplish anything with these stats.
You know I really think they could have afforded to make him absolutely cracked for his niche and only his niche. Like for other teams? Leave him being meh, but if he's with the Shinsengumi they should have just let him be an absolute menace no holds barred.
Ngl I feel like this should be the case for niche Supports. They should be able to outshins the general meta ones (Castoria, Koyan, Skadi), but only when in their niche (like Shinsengumi or Roman)
Yeah his numbers are just too low, they should be double the effect for shinsengumi members so that a single np from him feels like another servant’s full kit
10:31 It's really strange how Okita has no my room voice lines for Keisuke even though she is an important person in Keisuke's story and was the one who saw Keisuke in his final moments of life.
Apparrently his NP is supposed to kill him, if that were the case, he'd effectively be a Nobukatsu for the Shinsengumi. At least his NP levels would be easy to obtain...
Why am I rolling for him? Because he's pretty and the rest of the Shinsengumi are SO HOT. My 120 Saito is testament to my love. He can be dead weight on the field for all I care, he's MY moral support and all he has to do is sit there and look pretty and goddamn does he look charming with that beautiful NP. And tbh it's kind of funny in a cruel way that he gets in the way of his dear teammates and the one person who's able to tolerate his gameplay is Saito, the one he's arguably closest to.
Absolute garbo. Summer Gareth AT LEAST has an offensive NP. This guy? Dead on arrival with such a cumbersome kit and shit synergies with the units he is supposed to support.
Keisuke feels more like that support Servant made for those "Shinsengumi team" comps that only run Shinsengumi Servants. In that comp, the Atk Up is very flexible and his kit allows him to cover a wide berth of Shinsengumi Servants' weaknesses. But he's still a 4* and feels like his kit is purposely nerfed so that he doesn't eclipse a 5* support in terms of performance. AFAIK, most 4* supports are around his ballpark. Not including buffs after his event, ofc.
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When is fgo gonna buff bond ces to have higher stats because 2k each would be nice? And changing some old one's effects to better mesh with the servant like asterios his bond ce buffs the party quick effectiveness when he's a berserker with bbbqa deck why not make it cause either confusion paralysis or fear considering your stuck in the inescapable labyrinth about to be eaten.
Honestly since Gilles got his buff. My new lead contender for a saber buff. His kits so shit though he probably needs multiple just to not be dead weight
if u just look at the NP without looking at skills/kit, in the short term or perhaps even in some cases, it's better than Merlin's NP. Merlin needs OC2 to get 10 stars per turn and atk% can be more useful than a measly 1k hp per turn. As a 4* support NP it's really not bad at all. Even arguably good at NP5.
@@Uragaan1 Someone out here arguing one of the best NPs for stalling and general blanket use in CQs in the game at 5 turns compared to plebian 3 turns, ramping up after a few uses and on a servant with more utility on a single of any of his skills compared to poor Keisuke's entire skillset. I get what you're trying to argue but Merlin's not the example I'd have used there, maybe someone like Lanling instead and even then he has Keisuke handily beat.
@@Kiraidi720 Point is, a NP that offers up to 40% atk team wide, 10 stars per turn, and team wide NP gauge is not a bad NP by any means. And that's even ignoring the shinsengumi 50% crit buff. Ppl out here making it sound like he's the worst 4* in game.
@@Uragaan1 considering that Merlin's np also heals and charges your gauge per turn and can easily double or even triple stack that, it's a horrible comparison, since the stars per turn is the only thing that's common between the two and even then, it's much easier to stack np with Merlin, so it can become 10 or even 15 stars per turn. Yes, keisuke gives 10% flat charge too, but Merlin again, has the ability to stack the np per turn. Essentially, Merlin enables snowballing better. If you wanna compare keisuke with someone, compare him with Lan ling. Plus, like you said, he needs np5 to get 40% attack up from his np. It's pretty hard to NP5 a 4 star and what you get isn't really special either. A whole lot of sq investment for diminishing returns. I used him quite a bit in my old jp account. So i know how bad he is. The only thing he is decent at is actually solo or anchor and even then, there are way better options
I never knew he existed until now. I haven’t been looking at the fgo wiki for a while and the few times that I do check I don’t look through the saber list. I could have seen him once before but I probably forgot about it.
10:14 OG Saber SSR Artoria , didnt have any updated lines for years . The last update voiceline she got was for Gilgamesh release , heck even saber alter SR got updated voice when Morgan was implemented . everything else is update through her Variants
I think people really overstimate how "bad" S!Gareth is. At worts she is mediocre Buster DPS. not optimal, but you can set her up with a proper team and she is going to struggle but probably get the work done Keisuke is BAD, like an actual damper on your team. What the fuck team im suposed to use him in? Whatever he is in, he is would make the team Worse
I am a Rikyu enjoyer so I’m very likely to get several copies. Maybe even NP5 like Gareth. But that would be the game royally screwing we me at that point.
Yeah 4 stars usually could be a great 3 star but 4 stars are in the worst spot ever in this game being harder to get than 3 stars but little to no coins compared to 5 stars who got pity
He's van gogh with wacky skill set that doesn't fully support his niche and most of his buffs outside of that niche aren't great , so they made a bad version of van gogh
lets be real here, anytime you see a male character in a gacha game you should automatically expect them to absolute dogshit and expect to pull them a lot
This dude, alongside Constantine and Huang Feihu, might be one of the most forgotten male servants. Like, there is barely arts of these 3 and FGO JP doesn't seem to care about them either.
Your not wrong, every time someone on the FGO reddit brings up Shinsengumi servants it's always either Saito or Okita and the occasional Hijikata but never Keisuke. I remember when Chaldea Boy's this year for FGO JP had Hijikata, Saito, and Shinpachi in new CE art. Some people were disappointed that Okita wasn't in a suit even though it's Chaldea "Boy's" but completely forgot about Keisuke.
Sorry Gareth, but you don't even get the title of being the worst 4* limited Servant this year. S-Gareth is bad, but her path to viability is very simple buff away. All they'd need to do is up her battery from 20% to 30% and she goes from F tier trash to top of D tier at worst. Even with her low damage. Keisuke needs a full on Emiya level rework to make him useful. Even Sethno, memetically bad as she is, stands above this guy.
Did the shinsengumi really deserve better though? They're a nothing group of samouraï we already got a ton of, that only got so much representation because they happen to be from the developers' country.
Ain't the Shinsengumi one the more well-known groups of samurai in Japan considering they are represented in ton of media the following decades after the Bakumatsu period?
Jesus he really is terrible…I can’t believe he’s limited. At the very least they could’ve made all his skills party wide or sth. Basically just there for collection if you’re going for all Shinsengumi members or consolation after Sen no Rikyu rolls…history part was cool shame how he went out though.
On the bright side, all GudaGuda servants already released on FGO NA will getting a rerun during this GudaGuda event! If want too, you can get yourself Okita as well as her summer variant in one banner or Hijikata & Saito on one banner as well.
![[FGO NA] SQ that can be SAVED for the rest of 2024](/img/n.gif)
In b4 he gets buffed to spite me.
Also shout out to Ryou for lending me his Yamanami Kscope for that one team.
*cough* Summer Tomoe *cough*
All im hearing from this video is that mistake has found its next 120 servant lol
@@Exiled-i8nI dunno, not even the Shinsengumi liked this guy.
@@StrikeWarlock Damn he's overqualified then
@@StrikeWarlock damn, is that why he is a half hearted shinsengumi support?
He committed seppukku because he saw his servant future and wanted to atone for the shame.
And yet, due to his seppuku, he became a servant nonetheless
The worst four star of today (Gareth) vs The worst four star of today (Keisuke)
Vs the worst four star of history(stheno)
Too much competition here 😂
@@goldenking2046 Honestly, I think Stheno works better as a divine and/or anti male support than Keisuke does as a Shinsengumi support (not to mention her niches cover a whole lot more ground than his pool of 8 servants including himself). And I remember that for at least one raid event my best team comp was Stheno+Ridertoki+(50% charge support) even if that was a while ago.
@@Jack_Rakanthe worst part about keisuke as a shinsengumi support is that, Lan ling basically provides similar buffs, but without the niche and also being permanent
the fact that two of the worst 4* in the game release right next to each other and both are saber is kind of impressive actually
Keisuke's crappyness is the opposite of S-Gareth. He has a dis functional kit that doesn't really accomplishes anything, while S-Gareth has a usable kit but struggles to accomplish anything with these stats.
You know I really think they could have afforded to make him absolutely cracked for his niche and only his niche. Like for other teams? Leave him being meh, but if he's with the Shinsengumi they should have just let him be an absolute menace no holds barred.
Ngl I feel like this should be the case for niche Supports. They should be able to outshins the general meta ones (Castoria, Koyan, Skadi), but only when in their niche (like Shinsengumi or Roman)
@@IchigoShinagamiexactly like van goh
Yeah his numbers are just too low, they should be double the effect for shinsengumi members so that a single np from him feels like another servant’s full kit
It's weird because they let Nobukatsu give 100% crit damage, 3000% star absorb and 30% buster for nobu allies and he's a 1 star.
I like how a notable aspect of his character, abilities, history, feats, and legend is being literate.
At least he looks fabulous.
The fit is immaculate 😂
10:31 It's really strange how Okita has no my room voice lines for Keisuke even though she is an important person in Keisuke's story and was the one who saw Keisuke in his final moments of life.
The story portion gave me goosebumps. Pretty interesting person, pretty terrible servant.
Right? 😮
Really fascinating. God to be born in that shit time 🤦🏻♂️
"Why did I roll five copies of this guy?"
Probably because you wanted teatime with Rikyu-san and Yamanami was just an unfortunate tagalong.
I don't mind him. I actually hope that I will get at least one copy, because I liked him in Yamataikoku.
Okay now we're gonna see why Fino talks so much shit about this guy
Edit: okay all these trash skills and it turns out this guy isn't even a free 4*??
Nope. Worst part is that the welfare for this event is really good so even if you have an itch to get a new servant she's more than got you covered.
@@StrikeWarlock If we want to ‘generous’ his skills are at least better than OG Ryouma’s but that’s basically the lowest bar you can have.
Fino, you must not name him the worst, otherwise you will be cursed to only get him in your daily rolls. 👻
Remember Summer Gareth? ☠️
Oof, I had no idea Keisuke was THIS bad.
Thanks man, time to keep my SQ for another banner this year.
It’s really unfortunate that he shares a banner with one of the best new 5 stars released this year (probably just under the new summer servants).
@blurb9319
It sucks that Sen no Rikyu/Komahime shares her first banner with Keisuke, which brings the entire banner down.
His 3rd skill is debatably worse than vanilla Harp of Healing from David since it's 1 turn longer CD.
Can't believe they made such a gorgeous servant bad
This dude should really be at 3-star...at best. Sheesh lol
He'd still probably be bad :P
Apparrently his NP is supposed to kill him, if that were the case, he'd effectively be a Nobukatsu for the Shinsengumi.
At least his NP levels would be easy to obtain...
@TheKazuma410P I feel like katsu would be more used because how much he cost if he died and he was like a 2 or 1 star he'd be really good
For what he does at least
nah some 3* are better than him, don't downgrade them like this
Look he’s voiced by Kakyoin voice actor how can I not roll
K-KA-KAKYOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!
Wat
@@holdencornfield472 Respect. Husbandos over meta
No matter how much he sucks, i have my duty to collect all the shinsengumi servants, so I'll at least get one
I’m sorry, Gareth couldn’t be worse than this guy. She comes to the battlefield with a golden retriever, thus she sits higher on the tier list 🤭
So Keisuke is an AOE Saber Gilles. I sure wanted this over event reruns.
I see a handsome man, I roll.
That's why y'all should save for Ryan Gosling with Shinsegumi flavour
Alas, as my goal is to collect all 4stars, I will need to at least attempt.
Dont... talk about the summer valks, it huuuurts....
Yeah I hope we get them in the evocation shop soon.
@@user-Jay178yeah and one that let's us get ALL of then too. The sisters need to be together 😢
Just wait until Shinsengumi get teamwide NPs(NP changes depending on which Shinsengumis are in the party). Keisuke will unlock the best variations.
Why am I rolling for him? Because he's pretty and the rest of the Shinsengumi are SO HOT. My 120 Saito is testament to my love. He can be dead weight on the field for all I care, he's MY moral support and all he has to do is sit there and look pretty and goddamn does he look charming with that beautiful NP.
And tbh it's kind of funny in a cruel way that he gets in the way of his dear teammates and the one person who's able to tolerate his gameplay is Saito, the one he's arguably closest to.
man, that's a shame his kit is so bad, his design is really neat.
At least he got out of NPC jail.
This is about as on-brand for Shinsengumi as anything else.
Keisuke is maybe the worst servant but he's the best boy! That already grants him the redemption.
You know what this is for
That history segment was better than the servant it was about
Depressing tale to the end Jesus
Hate and love are 2 sides of the same coin. Fino actually loves this guy.
Go go Shingengumi users!
I really like him, he's like Gogh but bad, even has the same artist.
At least he is handsome like lanling 😂
Lanling is actually great tho
Lanling's actually hot, this guy? ehhh
@@StrikeWarlock
Eh his np looks charming though
@@lordteahonestly, his extra attack is the best part about him. It just looks brutal
Absolute garbo. Summer Gareth AT LEAST has an offensive NP. This guy? Dead on arrival with such a cumbersome kit and shit synergies with the units he is supposed to support.
Make his second skill targetable and add a party wide shinsengumi battery and suddenly hes MUCH better.
Daily Keisuke incoming
At worst, Summer Gareth can be a Beatstick, not a particularly great one, but still one that works. But Keisuke's not even very good at that!
Keisuke feels more like that support Servant made for those "Shinsengumi team" comps that only run Shinsengumi Servants. In that comp, the Atk Up is very flexible and his kit allows him to cover a wide berth of Shinsengumi Servants' weaknesses. But he's still a 4* and feels like his kit is purposely nerfed so that he doesn't eclipse a 5* support in terms of performance. AFAIK, most 4* supports are around his ballpark. Not including buffs after his event, ofc.
When is fgo gonna buff bond ces to have higher stats because 2k each would be nice? And changing some old one's effects to better mesh with the servant like asterios his bond ce buffs the party quick effectiveness when he's a berserker with bbbqa deck why not make it cause either confusion paralysis or fear considering your stuck in the inescapable labyrinth about to be eaten.
Honestly since Gilles got his buff. My new lead contender for a saber buff. His kits so shit though he probably needs multiple just to not be dead weight
Nawh bro Hijikata really made him commit seppuku because he saw how terrible his kit is☠️☠️☠️
Rolling bc hes handsome and loved him in the last event. simple as.
Thanks for the buff catalyst Fino!
Imagine you finally manage to bootstrap yourself to a full NP bar with your abysmal 2-hit Arts cards, just to learn it's basically just Charisma.
if u just look at the NP without looking at skills/kit, in the short term or perhaps even in some cases, it's better than Merlin's NP. Merlin needs OC2 to get 10 stars per turn and atk% can be more useful than a measly 1k hp per turn. As a 4* support NP it's really not bad at all. Even arguably good at NP5.
@@Uragaan1 Someone out here arguing one of the best NPs for stalling and general blanket use in CQs in the game at 5 turns compared to plebian 3 turns, ramping up after a few uses and on a servant with more utility on a single of any of his skills compared to poor Keisuke's entire skillset.
I get what you're trying to argue but Merlin's not the example I'd have used there, maybe someone like Lanling instead and even then he has Keisuke handily beat.
@@Kiraidi720 Point is, a NP that offers up to 40% atk team wide, 10 stars per turn, and team wide NP gauge is not a bad NP by any means. And that's even ignoring the shinsengumi 50% crit buff. Ppl out here making it sound like he's the worst 4* in game.
@@Uragaan1 considering that Merlin's np also heals and charges your gauge per turn and can easily double or even triple stack that, it's a horrible comparison, since the stars per turn is the only thing that's common between the two and even then, it's much easier to stack np with Merlin, so it can become 10 or even 15 stars per turn. Yes, keisuke gives 10% flat charge too, but Merlin again, has the ability to stack the np per turn. Essentially, Merlin enables snowballing better. If you wanna compare keisuke with someone, compare him with Lan ling. Plus, like you said, he needs np5 to get 40% attack up from his np. It's pretty hard to NP5 a 4 star and what you get isn't really special either. A whole lot of sq investment for diminishing returns. I used him quite a bit in my old jp account. So i know how bad he is. The only thing he is decent at is actually solo or anchor and even then, there are way better options
I never knew he existed until now. I haven’t been looking at the fgo wiki for a while and the few times that I do check I don’t look through the saber list. I could have seen him once before but I probably forgot about it.
10:14
OG Saber SSR Artoria , didnt have any updated lines for years . The last update voiceline she got was for Gilgamesh release , heck even saber alter SR got updated voice when Morgan was implemented . everything else is update through her Variants
Well he can f around and find out but if he spooks me he's going right in the incinerator.
Yay, one 4 star saber is worse than my Gareth!
7:25 the rage here haha
The mandatory np level 5 really is the nail in the coffin, imagine whalling hard just to get below free servant support.
I mean i will probably get him at a high np copy since i will pull for rikyu so i might team him up with my saito just for shits and giggles
Another banner skip = More saving for NP2 Kuku = STONKS!
Get ready for another post Fino roast buff in JP.
he is beautiful tho
well thank goodness fgo gave me a whole ass np5 while trying to get a single mori, Im sure he'll shine!
I ended up with him at NP5... But I actually unironically like him the most of all the Shinsengumi
seems like the kind of servant to get added to general, because of course
Hate how this guy is the runner up prize on a banner i actually want to roll on
Watch him get a buff now that Fino made a vid on him
that's ice cold Fino, eviscerating this guy an entire second time
At this point you may as well grail Jason
but he's so pretty....
I might actually Roll NP5 gunning for gramps.
The only servant I don’t even want to spook .
Well he's on the same banner as Rikyu- so the chances are not zero if you're rolling for her
I think people really overstimate how "bad" S!Gareth is.
At worts she is mediocre Buster DPS. not optimal, but you can set her up with a proper team and she is going to struggle but probably get the work done
Keisuke is BAD, like an actual damper on your team. What the fuck team im suposed to use him in? Whatever he is in, he is would make the team Worse
I am a Rikyu enjoyer so I’m very likely to get several copies. Maybe even NP5 like Gareth. But that would be the game royally screwing we me at that point.
Np5 Yam no tea granny 💀
Keep bashing servants Fino, the servants like Summer Tomoe need more buffs😂
Yeah 4 stars usually could be a great 3 star but 4 stars are in the worst spot ever in this game being harder to get than 3 stars but little to no coins compared to 5 stars who got pity
I got 2 of this guy but no copies of Mori
The fuck man
Dont care. Still gonna grail him :)
Of course i pulled him 5 times 💀
why yes i will be rolling np5 rikyu
He is chen gong friend :>
Nooo, i was saving for him
He's van gogh with wacky skill set that doesn't fully support his niche and most of his buffs outside of that niche aren't great , so they made a bad version of van gogh
Oof, terrible servant but even more terrible is Okita whiffing the kill shot. Top Ten Anime Betrayals.
Idk,.my team is merlin and castoria and him, and he does just fine
lets be real here, anytime you see a male character in a gacha game you should automatically expect them to absolute dogshit and expect to pull them a lot
This dude, alongside Constantine and Huang Feihu, might be one of the most forgotten male servants.
Like, there is barely arts of these 3 and FGO JP doesn't seem to care about them either.
Constantine wasn't forgettable though. People remember him from the 7 day roast by xnaya. Now after his buff, he is pretty good
Your not wrong, every time someone on the FGO reddit brings up Shinsengumi servants it's always either Saito or Okita and the occasional Hijikata but never Keisuke. I remember when Chaldea Boy's this year for FGO JP had Hijikata, Saito, and Shinpachi in new CE art. Some people were disappointed that Okita wasn't in a suit even though it's Chaldea "Boy's" but completely forgot about Keisuke.
Sorry Gareth, but you don't even get the title of being the worst 4* limited Servant this year.
S-Gareth is bad, but her path to viability is very simple buff away. All they'd need to do is up her battery from 20% to 30% and she goes from F tier trash to top of D tier at worst. Even with her low damage.
Keisuke needs a full on Emiya level rework to make him useful. Even Sethno, memetically bad as she is, stands above this guy.
Ahhhhhh got np8 Garetg
His looks give him a pass
What the fuck? When did he become a servant?
He's coming on NA in the next event, he's been on JP for a while
@@Ilanon1569 I has no idea he became a servant.
How dare you speak ill of Josh Groban
Did the shinsengumi really deserve better though? They're a nothing group of samouraï we already got a ton of, that only got so much representation because they happen to be from the developers' country.
Ain't the Shinsengumi one the more well-known groups of samurai in Japan considering they are represented in ton of media the following decades after the Bakumatsu period?
At least Gareth is cute.
Zerker Gojo tho
Still gonna NP5-10 him because he's handsome, and I gotta complete the max Shinsengumi squad proper.
Jesus he really is terrible…I can’t believe he’s limited. At the very least they could’ve made all his skills party wide or sth. Basically just there for collection if you’re going for all Shinsengumi members or consolation after Sen no Rikyu rolls…history part was cool shame how he went out though.
WOW! this is garbage!
*me who literally has zero Shinsengumi units* : wow this is worthless!
On the bright side, all GudaGuda servants already released on FGO NA will getting a rerun during this GudaGuda event! If want too, you can get yourself Okita as well as her summer variant in one banner or Hijikata & Saito on one banner as well.
Every time I collect a husband. They are meh 🥲 still got him though.