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The way Yachtzee talks about all the problems with the game - questionably designed lair, incompetent minions, overpowered agents infiltrating your base and killing all your dudes - is actually perfectly consistent with the Bond Villain aesthetic the game shoots for, when you think about it. You know you're fully immersed in the game when you start yelling "You IMBECILES!" at your minions without a hint of irony.
Personally desertion tended to be my down fall I thought I was doing quite well and then boom a bunch of minions desert and a cock up cascade starts My minions leave and kill tiger minions when they are marked fir capture I buy more minions because I’m far into the game and need them trained up for missions Then more minions desert (especially deception minions I swear valets and spin doctors are constantly on a knifes edge gif it And then I run out of money so even kids desert Then an enemy attack begins and im left with my genius being the only defence and he falls
@@theescapist Say, has he requested his lifetime supply of infinite fun sized mars bars yet? Alternatively, how frequently do you have to sacrifice a pie to him?
At one point, in the original game, I had lured all of the super agents to my lair - one by one - and dumped them into an eternal loop that just pushed them around with giant fan traps. They could never get on their feet long enough to disable the fans or get away. It was the best fishtank simulator ever.
I like in the original how at one point you infiltrate international politics and set all the nations of the world against each other so that agents sometimes end up fighting each other. Was a great comfort seeing Mariana Mamba in a melee with Katerina Frostonova.
This sounds rather like that Prison Architect game, with the ultimate goal being to create a system so self-sufficient that you can just sit back and watch hypnotized as the cogs of your ever-growing machine spin away. Only in that game you can indeed put any furniture you want in any kind of room, so I guess prison wardens have a better sense of feng shui than evil geniuses.
Unfortunately, you just never get to sit back in Evil Genius 2. The game demands actions from you all the time, like selecting which schemes to run on the world map or what to do with invaders in your base. It appears that these decisions cannot be put on autorun, so it ends up being quite annoying menial work to do all the time while also trying to get some actual productive work done.
@@Sunesen For the tagging stuff you can totally put it on autorun, though. You can research orders and then designate a specific area with that order. Like I have one order placed on my cover operation area that each agent coming in gets automatically tagged to be distracted and then I also have a kill order that gets tagged on every agent entering my actual secret base.
I think it is a lot more finnicky than Prison Architect and seems to be missing the clone functionality. So when laying down devices you need to leave space to install the AC units to keep your minion loving their job. In PA once you feel you have nailed a call you can clone it. And as @sunseen points out the world map stuff is more disruptive than anything I can think of in Prison Architect, you have to go back there and spend time/materials to stop places overheating. I did giggle a few times, and am still playing it cause traps are fun, hopefully the mechanics get a nice polish as the development continues.
@@Lambtomo the aurotagging mechanic is something that should have been given to you from the start. Are you telling me a genius need to scientifically figure it out the concept of... " hey guys if someone not authorized enter this door just beat the crap out of him." As of now is a godamn tier 3 research which happens after you bloody tested a super doomsday weapon on the world... way into mid late game. Also why gun cabinets raise suspicion?. How armed security is suspicious but the fact a big giant punching glove that almost knock your teeth out isnt?..
That would be a funny spy movie. The superspy makes his way all the way through the base, dodging traps, defeating guards, hacking security systems, only to make it to the bosses' office and instantly get curb-stomped. Actually, now that I think about it, something like that does happen in Hellsing Ultimate.
"I dodged all the explosive landmines, elite armed guards, and the piranha tanks, and now, it's time to enter the room of the evil genius themselves and take them down." *enters the room to find the Evil Genius has mounted a CIWS turret to their desk, which turns to face the agent and immediately turns them into wallpaper paste*
@@Pizza-gremlin And you can just connect the different breakrooms without having walls between them. Though I do understand his frustration with the odd limitations the game imposes.. Would be neat if a research option was to "combine" room functions.
One that apparently has the same power level as that one character at the beginning of most Metroivana games that steals all the hero's powers after the Tutorial so that they have to start at Square 1.
It's kinda sad that the review sounds like he played maybe a couple hours of the game before quitting... No wonder I stopped watching Zero Punctuation a long time ago
@@joevenespineli6389 oh I know, I hadn't seen one of his videos in years so I figured I'd watch this one since it popped up on my Google feed... I distinctly remember him being funny like Dunky, but this was just complaining with little effort 😔
I think it'd be cool to have an Xcom-style game with a premise similar to Evil Genius - recruit minions, build a base, research and produce new weapons, slowly expand your influence...
Have you tried Phantom Doctrine? Without getting into spoilers, your PC operative is... not nice. Possibly not even "good". The game plays like new Xcom (with some of the inferior 'updates' removed) meets old Covert Action.
And then you lose your squad because you foolishly spotted the enemy first, so they get 1.5 turns before your next one instead of 0.5 turns if they'd found you on their own. Who else remembers THAT brilliant bit of game design? Eh? =D
This is actually one of the things that was lost in X-COM made by Firaxis in 2010s. Because the original X-COM:Enemy Unknown in 1993 had base management from building your base up to deciding paycheck for your stuff and buying fuel/ammo and many other things... But what is more interesting in case if aliens ATTACK YOUR BASE - it would use exactly the same layout you made in your tactical management screen - You placed Hangar near the labaratory? During the mission it will be in the same spot! - though it also meant that any destruction - and this 90s game had FULL destruction - you were able to blow up walls if needed... Or enemy were able to blow up your dropship with everyone inside - which layered on top of that fight happens INSIDE your base - meant that there are civilian personnel that you hired - engineers and scientists - that you would prefer to be alive by the end of it and also your ROOMS that you rather not damage because building them costed you a fortune and repairing them will cost you time on top of paying for it which sometimes you simply can't afford.
@@lissaquon607 it does and makes it really feel like a cover op though it has to be setup right with enough distraction minions, enough tables/distractions, multiple rooms, zones, and security cameras
@@nates9105 Not really a source of income though, which makes me sad. I really wish you could have invested in the casino, so it could have been a steady source. Also, after awhile, the minions stop using the front door, so the casino becomes useless.
You can turn it into a source by setting the tables/distractions to Scam Tourists. Granted it will not earn as much as the crime you can do around the world but it'll still build your bank when cooling down from all the heat
@@nates9105 You get what...$20 from them if you scam them? Maybe once every 30 seconds if the casino is busy. That is not "building your bank" when you need $500,000 constantly.
Actually I don't think there are. You can easily make a room a half and half room, with bunk beds from the barracks and a lunch table from the cafeteria. You just have to zone it right, kind of like SimCity or whatever
Reminds me of Warcraft 1. In where u could only build 1 town hall. But could only build it after your starting one was destroyed. But u could only build it where your starting one was destroyed.
Having rewatched this now I've finally actually played the game, I'm guessing Yahtzee never found the auto distract and auto kill research options, nor did he discover that you can build types of rooms merged together, eg a mess hall with a few tiles of "corridor" inside it so you can build a stairway connecting an upstairs and downstairs mess hall and get your split level food court. Hell, you don't even actually have to have walls in your base. You could technically make the whole damn thing an open floor plan 😂
It's so nice that they're not interested in improving the games they're remaking. Startopia is another example of remaking something worse than the original... They all have the feel of almost getting it to the same level but then went "why bother?".
I remember seeing the new world map in EG2 and thinking "Huh, so, no more radio DJs eh? What did they replace those with?" and the answer seems to be "Really awfully written go-nowhere babble events with two barely animated characters". The whole game feels like filler content written by hacks. Where's the cackles? The madness? The joy? Anything?
@@hazukichanx408 I was thinking the same, and at some point i said to miself, it is 2021, of course with nothing, why bother, you put it, and then several will clap like seals
Was huge fan of first one... played some 10hours of EG2 and i have to admit everything said in this video is true. Sure old one was clunky in many areas but new one while improving some... also has some very questionable design decisions. You cant go from one game menu to another... always needing to "close current" to open next even tho you have a hotbar... transport helicopter take literally ages to put minions around the world... for doing 3 jobs u are blocking whole world map for at least 10mins while it go one by one, type of minion around... even new minions use helicopter to get on island ?! Guards pick weapon locker by random, some superagents spawn directly in your vault and are impossbile to kill... trying to do that u literally lose 99% of your minions unless u are some 3/4 in story to fight them... i want to love this game but... its hard
I went looking for a review of the original one, which is also one of my favorites. I was hoping he'd do kind of a comparison or something. Glad to see your comment here.
Blofeld never had a monocle; he had a cheek scar that ran the length to his brow; there weren't too many villains with bald head and pointed nose, ppl probably combined the two in their zeitgeist pre-internet
Protip: In the early game, use Valet minions, freeze traps, and distractions to keep investigators out of your base without to throw guards into the meat grinder ever five seconds.
Which is made even easier to do now that they've patched it so that the low level agents no longer go 'Nah, I don't like being distracted' and fight you anyway even if you've put to distract them.
After which the first super agent will show up, inside your vault, steal half your money, kill half your minions, bugger off only after taking your genius down to 30 health and then _immediately_ reappear because you just finished building two more surveillance cameras to "prepare for" her. Spoiler: They Do Not Help. Also Spoiler: Neither Do Traps. Further Spoiler: She will happily shoot all of your unarmed valets, technicians and other non-hostile staff because why not.
@@hazukichanx408 I'm pretty sure Symmetry is the only super agent who can teleport into your vault. But yeah super agents are tough and there's no shame in losing most of your guards in a fight with a super agent.
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5:05 The thing is, Super Agents are as bad at their dedicated jobs as your minions are. The deadliest of super agents isn't the one with the machine gun, who specifically came to fill you with bullets, it's the one that's coming to nick your stuff, and just happens to have overstatted backup thieves that can maul through your army and your henchmen with their bare hands.
In 2 you can freely mix and mash rooms. No minimum sizes or requirement to have a wall+door seperating the rooms. That specific items need to go into specific rooms is a affordance to allow pathfinding to operate remotely efficient.
Honest critique from having about 2 days of play time so far: 1. Yeah, the room thing is kinda goofed. It is a hold over from the original, but so far does feel kinda worse than the original, but mostly this was just an issue carried over. Definitely feel like they could get rid of a few room types, and allow more things in all rooms. 2. No direct control I think is needed for balance. Having a base now that devastates the investigators, this would have been a total joke to make if I could directly control the minions. Plus you do have access to henchmen who are your direct controls. Granted there is very few of those and they're tough to get past the first, but have the right ones and you can wreck incoming waves with some good micro. One thing though that annoys me is both Henchmen and EG alike have a massive case of tunnel vision. If they're involved in a fight but getting wreck and you want to pull them out, you have to keep ordering it again and again and again and again because they will immediately return to the fight. So, basically once they're in a fight, they're committed. Best you can do is get some distance and hope your minions tank for you. 3. Tagging system is also mostly a hold over, with one change; instead of being able to mass tag a group, you have auto tag zones. I have found this is overall better, but haven't been able to play much with the kill auto tag yet. Distract though works very well for its purpose. 4. Yeah, your EG isn't that strong. You can easily deal with the trash, but anything tough comes along and you are in serious trouble. Building up your minions stats helps, as does having the right henchmen or trap combos. While the supers are good at disabling them, if you have enough they will get caught and start to get wrecked fast.
Ivans Rocket launcher if done right you can solo super agents and their group because of the knockdown effect. XD zones work well and with the hot fix the valets don't die as often anymore trying to escort the investigators back to the cover operations. I liked the trap design more in EG1 though. You had saws different poison traps and overall some just felt deadlier.
I don't think Yatzee figured out that cameras make your guards go running after agents as soon as they enter the field of vision. Also there is an auto-tagging research you can get, I always set the casino to auto-distract so any agents who enter keep getting stuck playing the slots and losing all their money.
@@thedawsonator1628 It will be interesting if there is a show that goes with this idea. The villain is defeated not because of heroes or by traitors, he just shot dead the Doordash guy by accident so now he is stranded in the volcano/desert/arctic etc.... with no supplies
Fair criticism. I've enjoyed a fair bit into Evil Genius 2, and I'll be playing some more, but I would say you CAN have things like stairways in dining halls and rooms all together - there's no penalty for painting several rooms in one area. My barracks has a dining hall and staff room in it, and it works perfectly fine. The staff room is right by the entrance of the barracks, completely open with no walls around it. The game allows you to get creative with stuff like that. You could paint a corridor in a dining hall and stick the stairs in there. It still needed more fun, but it's got its charm, and I definitely enjoyed it.
3:03 All geniuses can use an ability to prioritize the jobs he's near. Or you can go to the minion manager and assign what jobs they should prioritize. Warning, they will not be picked when starting world domination schemes, so you'll have to deassign that priority for them to leave. 3:45 Use the henchmen. Put guard posts in the corridors. Put cameras to warn the guards in the security room. Goddamn dude. You can later research a system to automatically tag intruders in certain areas to Distract, Capture or Kill. This should be available from the beginning, though. 3:55 There's keybindings for assigning Distract, Capture or Kill an agent. Z X and C , i decided
It's almost as if he forgot to put any surveillance cameras in his base, and didn't get far enough to discover how quickly his evil genius dies to a crack team of agents when no one's there to help them because they all quit when they had to clamber over the corpses of their mates to get to bed.
Yea.. cause they're locked behind biologists. I get why, but if you're even just casually researching you're gonna end up with all done for like an hour or 2 before you get biologists
This video made me think about whether Yatzee ever reviewed War for the Overworld, but apparently he hasn't. That's a bit of a bummer, that one is a proper Dungeon keeper-esque game, even if it has a few flaws.
Amazing... This sounds incredibly close to a word by word repeat of the Computer Gaming World magazine review of the first Evil Genius two decades ago with the exact same complaints about inefficiencies, bad AI, Evil Genius unit being overpowered, etc. They gave it 2 stars then but they're merciful like that.
I don't recall the Evil Genius in the first game having any direct combat ability other than being able to execute your minions to encourage the others.
@@RydWolf they didnt at their best they were glorifired meatshields with an influence aura to stop the units around them from going crazy though if worst comes to worst you can off a minion to bring everyone back to full in a large area
@@caellanmurphy4751 That was what I thought, so it's weird that the Computer Gaming World review that WhiteFang mentioned talked about the Evil Genius unit being 'overpowered'.
Yahtzee’s frustration about his incompetent base design reminds me of that American Dad James Bond parody episode involving a joke with Roger hiring a contractor, who was hot (he said it not me), to build his base but everything falling apart like someone getting stuck on a slide to a water tank, his minions falling through the floor, and his escape pod falling into a volcano because it was lacking fuel.
"Why did i have to research a staircase" Welli see your stair case and i raise you a tier 4 upgrade that is locked because its to complex to research is folding cloths to make more space for minions that vosts like 80k..... sooooo lol
Maybe if this studio agreed to license this game under Illumination Entertainment and have it recast as Gru building a base with his Minions, the gameplay can be advanced because then it's not taking itself so seriously.
Mankind Is Yet To Realise My Genius needs to be made. Yes, I'm talking to you Benjamin Yahtzee Sebastian Dragon Croshaw. And after that, your reverse leveling RPG. Chop-chop!
I'm not sure how often Yahtzee reads the comments, but I am thrilled to inform him that I knew the answer to a Trivia question at work, only because I watch all of his videos :D Thanks for telling me about Rocket League!
Personally, I like how hands-on you have to be when running your base: Making sure all your resources are managed, your operations are being productive/lowering their heat, and DEALING with those STUPID AGENTS with my ROBOT SECRETARY (which, in my opinion, is the best control option in the early game if you know how to use her security camera trait) But I understand why that might not be to everyone's liking. Traps don't reward you for combinations, it doesn't encourage that much creativity and favors efficiency instead, and it punishes you for not learning how to strategize by the mid-game (using protocols, managing heat, keeping minion traits high, etc.)
Taking minion, dropping it in a room and slapping it a bit about to make them build the room faster was the best part about Dungeon Keeper. I swear I am a well adjusted adult by now. I only once in a while get the urge to do that in the real world as well.
Well answer for most of presented issues is simple... GIT GUT. 1. Use cameras and autotags for your guards to work. Place 2x2 corridor inside rooms for cameras, guard stations and stairs (it requires a bigger corridor). 2. Not every muscle type can use every gun, no rifles or staffs for you guards. it could also be a bug, because game is a buggy mess and hotfixes are laughable. I am still waiting for fix to John Steele so he stops breaking a shark tank when he steps on it. You can easlly kill super agent with your OP henchmen like IRIS or Lubej, if not then making agent fight in melee a minion while 10 more shots him in back is a valid strategy. 3. Dont make only one entrance to base from your cover operation. Build 2 or more decoy corridors filled with traps and dead end so agents lose resorve before they even put a step in your lair. 4. Dont use shitty traps like boxing gloves. Focus on bee nest trap and freezing ray.
I love the original game, but my biggest complaint is, and always will be, how both my minions and cameras will completely ignore any and all intruders until I personally find and target them. At 3:56 I realized that the same issue persists in the remake. Good to know that the ONE thing I wanted fixed went completely ignored. I'll still probably play it though.
Think Yahtzee may have misunderstood this game. Which is pretty damn rare. All jokes aside based on all of his "criticism" of this game I'm willing to be they added to the authenticity of said game, especially the gross incompetence of the henchmen. The game really seems like how it WOULD be to be a Bond villain within the actual Ame Bond universe. Lol.
I think the most disappointing thing is that there isn't a villain monologue before you kill the invader simulator. It would be awesome to have a point system for generating a good monologue and killing them or generating a good monologue and then escaping and returning stronger.
Okay f*** it I seen you make a game in a month. And I've read your work you're a good writer . Make a text-based game out of just doing a good villain monologue while still being able to kill them at the end or having to redo it if you don't do it right.
@@jonofthehill while the 1st game didnt have evil monologues either. everytime you did a world map mission(or failed one) youd get a radio broadcast based on where you stole frorm(EVEN antarctica)
This review reminded me of an old and lovely PS1 spin-off from Mega Man - The MisAdventures of Tron Bonne - and her small army of servbots who play various mini-games (some involving torture) to improve their stats and earn her more money.
The funny thing is the whole supper agent thing happened to me. Had the master thief one bring like 6 lackies. It took all my guards to stop the lackies then the super agent made to my inner sanctum and got really engrossed in the mega loot I had nicked and promptly got wasted by my evil genius. Love the reviews
What I take from this and games like Dungeon Keeper is that the *idea* of being a cackling evil mastermind is a lot more enjoyable than the reality of it.
I had similar problems with the first game, which tells us that the devs barely budged an inch in fifteen fucking years. My big mistake was designing a base that intruders would have a hard time reaching me in, making it a big, long, winding series of hallways that meant my enemies would have to go through all of my troops and all of my defenses before they could reach me. Anyone that's ever played a video game may recognize this as the standard, perfectly fucking sensible approach of dungeon design; keep the thing you want safe/hidden all the way at the back with the maximum number of hazards between it and those who might threaten it. This did not go over well with my dipshit minions, who proved increasingly useless the bigger my base got, no matter how I arranged/added rooms to meet their needs. For whatever it's worth, I went 10 hours without a single enemy goon so much as getting within sniffing range of my evil mastermind, but then some agents tunneled into my cafeteria, shot at some vending machines, and mostly blew themselves up, teaching me that they could essentially teleport anywhere they wanted at any time and putting any thought designing my base (and by extension the entire game) was completely goddamn pointless. "Genius" is the very last word that should be used to describe these games.
What disappoints me a bit is that despite an interesting concept it all feels rather bland. Wouldnt an evil genius think a little bit outside the box. Its just all Frank got one parking ticket to much and now the world has to pay.
He's pretty much hit the nail on the head with this review. It is a great game but it could have been amazing if it had only allowed you to actually select and delegate to specific minions. I mean they have a whole minion status screen with all their statistics on it but it legitimately means bugger all because you can't interact with anyone.
That would really go againt the dungeon keeper esque gameplay, tho. The fact you don't have direct control over your minion is a featutre, not a bug. It IS kind of the point. (As was the case int he first evil genius) Though I'll agree I do wish you could prioritze a minion to be trained in a branch or another in priority, since they added traits to the minion. The first game has a punchclock object that allowed to genraly influnece at how much capacity a rom was staffed at any time, which could haave been improved or replaced by say a roster sytem. It is somewhat of a waste that thethe new game complelty removed it as far as I can tell.
@@s.m.2523 I mean. It really wouldn't go against the dungeon keeper esque because in Dungeon Keeper you could pick up any amount of minions you wanted to. Hell I've dumped entire armies on heroes heads in that game.
pretty much everything he says you can't do in this "review" you actually can do. he just didn't take the time to "play" the game. he didnt even get out of the tutorial.
Has the creator of this not realised that you don't need walls? All you have to do is designate some tiles in a room as those of another room, then you can put other objects in it. You can have the whole base open-plan: the minions seem to be deaf, and aren't concerned as they work away at an info desk right next to a fusion engine. The gun racks are an irritation: it almost seems that once a minion picks up a staff, say, he'll not use anything else, ever. So you have to wait for mortality to let the minions with the weaker weapons die off, whilst carefully bringing in the more powerful racks and removing the old ones. There are problems with the game, but I've noticed that there is a lot going on under the surface: if your minions aren't happy enough, for example, things seem to go wrong more often. And there are a lot of variables for their happiness, including the sleeping quarter, the entertainment areas, and the food hall. This is after an initial, but long, run-through: I suspect the game has interesting mechanics that take a while to work out. Just my 2 cents' worth.
The trick to super agents is to pick a good super henchman to fight them. Those guys you can control. As in the last game Junbei is the objectively superior first pick as he's a combat power house that can teleport.
Problem is that super agents are the only thing that can permanently kill your henchmen - and you need specific conditions (that you first need to build) to kill the super agent.
Wow, that "Mankind has still yet to realise his genius" part in the credits could be a callback to the idea for a supervillain game he coined in his Saints Row 2 video all the way back in 2008. Now that's attention to detail.
I don't often comment on videos, and although I did have a good time watching this one, I feel like alot of these pointed out issues could be fixed by just getting better at the game, and looking into it's features. There's ways to mark off whole areas as 'kill on sight' and your minions will attack who ever they see sneaking in even if you don't tag, as well as you can use in game abilities to tell your minions to focus on tasks in one area. PLUS your special henchmen WILL respond to direct commands and can be controlled. I feel like maybe some one forgot to play the tutorial... I know speed is important for reviews, but even I know this stuff after a few hours of gameplay. TLDR; Yhatzee is [no offence] bad at the game, and it's more fun once you know what you're doing.
honestly yahtzee really does point out the biggest plothole with "Evil smart person" trope. Like just cause you're smart and know more than somebody doesn't mean you're out to get everybody. You still need labourers to work the factories. They're evil not stupid. If anything the whole thing of thanos-esque dudes being villians is likely just the average layman's insecurity
It's a pain if it's like the first one - you have to place turrets and cameras outside and wait for your scientists to unlock research of disguised ones. You have to use the alerts to make them run or walk to grab guns but then you have to listen to that awful alarm. On the first game if you used high alert and had your security desk manned they'd run for weapons and shoot anything within view of cameras and turrets without having to target each enemy individually.
2:10 Question: How do minions of the evil overlord unionise? Imagine being a minion and going to the overlord telling him that you have formed a union. What do you think would happen next? 2:37 Ackhtually, one of the villains is in the... *cough* wheelchair, so... maybe?
also if you do setup your base full of traps you get exactly one use out of them before somehow every agent from the same agency suddenly know they are there and just goes and disables them before they even trigger and before you even know they were there in the first place
I haven't had that experience. I just had a few normal agents disable some occasionally, then walk directly into the next trap. What i find annoying is that super agents just disable them all. I get them being the creme de la creme but that's a bit much.
I loved the original... Despite its gaping flaws. It was a fun concept and watching my minions dash around with cases full of gold was always fun. The sequel is in some ways a big improvement, in others a massive step backwards. The lack of diversity in torture methods. The lack of responsiveness in minions when ordered to the world stage. Etc. And while I've had lots of fun with it, it's hard to say I actually like it. It feels like it was streamlined to add more mechanics and they were never added or so badly ballanced you'll never use them unless forced (like the super weapon which burns down half your base).
My dude, if you wanted a two level lunch room, all you had to do was zone in corridor in the middle of your lunch room. Or to the side of your lunchroom, whatever you were wanting. The only limitation is the room zones and the fact that it has to be at least 3x3 squares. Although the stairs take 4x6. I did a two level control room using that, it's not too difficult, you just need to zone right. Also, your evil Genius is only able to take on the beginning level agents and investigators, as they get stronger he has put in more and more danger and you need more and more minions to defend him. Or traps. Whatever tactics you choose to go with.
Have you tried to research area management at the bottom of the minion's research? It allows you to set a room has an area and make all the agents "enemy's" in that area to get them out, imprison them, or kill them.
The fact a simple QoL feature is locked behind waiting 15 minutes to an hour researching only for it to get in the way during raids is baffling and counter intuitive. Especially when your options of research are things that are guaranteed upsides like space preservation or Stat ups for certain minions. Having a way to auto check every investigator every 3 minutes isn't really something that good when compared. By the time any player researches it, its way too late in the game and you have bigger things to worry about.
@@1981troyboy The game is a huge time sink and in the worst way possible, missions take forever, money is such a non issue and the boss fights can be beaten by spamming yellow suits at them. You are punished for bad minion ai with entire squads of units that mow down units by stunlocking them and your only hope is to either use a really good henchman ability or just spamming workers until it's over.
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Hellpoint?
Gotta love the dry heave.
Do Kingdom Hearts 1.
I see jemima in the tank but where is Daniel or Mr Henderson
no thanks, ads are fine for me
The way Yachtzee talks about all the problems with the game - questionably designed lair, incompetent minions, overpowered agents infiltrating your base and killing all your dudes - is actually perfectly consistent with the Bond Villain aesthetic the game shoots for, when you think about it. You know you're fully immersed in the game when you start yelling "You IMBECILES!" at your minions without a hint of irony.
what a predicament for a game to be build around playing the losing side
Personally desertion tended to be my down fall
I thought I was doing quite well and then boom a bunch of minions desert and a cock up cascade starts
My minions leave and kill tiger minions when they are marked fir capture
I buy more minions because I’m far into the game and need them trained up for missions
Then more minions desert (especially deception minions I swear valets and spin doctors are constantly on a knifes edge gif it
And then I run out of money so even kids desert
Then an enemy attack begins and im left with my genius being the only defence and he falls
What does Yahtzee even need an Evil Villain Dictator sim for?
He already took over the Escapist.
I have been duped!
@@theescapist Say, has he requested his lifetime supply of infinite fun sized mars bars yet?
Alternatively, how frequently do you have to sacrifice a pie to him?
Today the Escapist, tomorrow the world!
- Yahtzee, probably
@@xelldincht8149 Been there, done that, blew it up, got the webcomic to prove it. :P
@@myrixica4222 I loved YTOTW! Is he still writing them...?
At one point, in the original game, I had lured all of the super agents to my lair - one by one - and dumped them into an eternal loop that just pushed them around with giant fan traps. They could never get on their feet long enough to disable the fans or get away.
It was the best fishtank simulator ever.
I like in the original how at one point you infiltrate international politics and set all the nations of the world against each other so that agents sometimes end up fighting each other.
Was a great comfort seeing Mariana Mamba in a melee with Katerina Frostonova.
That is the most bond esque thing I have ever heard in my life
This is amazing and I love it.
This makes me want to try these games immediately.
This sounds rather like that Prison Architect game, with the ultimate goal being to create a system so self-sufficient that you can just sit back and watch hypnotized as the cogs of your ever-growing machine spin away. Only in that game you can indeed put any furniture you want in any kind of room, so I guess prison wardens have a better sense of feng shui than evil geniuses.
Unfortunately, you just never get to sit back in Evil Genius 2. The game demands actions from you all the time, like selecting which schemes to run on the world map or what to do with invaders in your base. It appears that these decisions cannot be put on autorun, so it ends up being quite annoying menial work to do all the time while also trying to get some actual productive work done.
@@Sunesen For the tagging stuff you can totally put it on autorun, though. You can research orders and then designate a specific area with that order. Like I have one order placed on my cover operation area that each agent coming in gets automatically tagged to be distracted and then I also have a kill order that gets tagged on every agent entering my actual secret base.
Tomato potato
I think it is a lot more finnicky than Prison Architect and seems to be missing the clone functionality. So when laying down devices you need to leave space to install the AC units to keep your minion loving their job. In PA once you feel you have nailed a call you can clone it. And as @sunseen points out the world map stuff is more disruptive than anything I can think of in Prison Architect, you have to go back there and spend time/materials to stop places overheating.
I did giggle a few times, and am still playing it cause traps are fun, hopefully the mechanics get a nice polish as the development continues.
@@Lambtomo the aurotagging mechanic is something that should have been given to you from the start.
Are you telling me a genius need to scientifically figure it out the concept of... " hey guys if someone not authorized enter this door just beat the crap out of him."
As of now is a godamn tier 3 research which happens after you bloody tested a super doomsday weapon on the world... way into mid late game.
Also why gun cabinets raise suspicion?. How armed security is suspicious but the fact a big giant punching glove that almost knock your teeth out isnt?..
That would be a funny spy movie. The superspy makes his way all the way through the base, dodging traps, defeating guards, hacking security systems, only to make it to the bosses' office and instantly get curb-stomped.
Actually, now that I think about it, something like that does happen in Hellsing Ultimate.
The Abridged version does it better
@@newelljoseph5060 "Where you see one man, I C4."
@@newelljoseph5060 "Well that's not fair at all"
"I dodged all the explosive landmines, elite armed guards, and the piranha tanks, and now, it's time to enter the room of the evil genius themselves and take them down."
*enters the room to find the Evil Genius has mounted a CIWS turret to their desk, which turns to face the agent and immediately turns them into wallpaper paste*
@@newelljoseph5060 "That was a seventy-inch... plasma screen TV."
"So, how can I help you?"
Someone get this man his split level food court!
Please don't. He's just trying to relive his early days of 1213. Next thing you know, he'll demand a space voyage for the unemployed!
Put corridor in the food court then place stairs and make the food place
Honestly, being a henchman for Yahtzee doesn't sound like too bad of a gig.
@@Pizza-gremlin And you can just connect the different breakrooms without having walls between them. Though I do understand his frustration with the odd limitations the game imposes.. Would be neat if a research option was to "combine" room functions.
@@realKenMis... Is yahtzee immortal?
This episode had some really good screens for ZP Out of Context
The discord game or Nick's string of posts?
@@denmark1226 both
0.27
@@denmark1226 I'm curious about both since I've never heard of either.
So in short, it's a highly accurate simulation of being a bond-esque genius supervillain.
One that apparently has the same power level as that one character at the beginning of most Metroivana games that steals all the hero's powers after the Tutorial so that they have to start at Square 1.
But in an Austin Powers movie
It's kinda sad that the review sounds like he played maybe a couple hours of the game before quitting... No wonder I stopped watching Zero Punctuation a long time ago
@@cortneysauk7533 You're not obligated to you know. He's been kinda irrelevant for a while now.
@@joevenespineli6389 oh I know, I hadn't seen one of his videos in years so I figured I'd watch this one since it popped up on my Google feed... I distinctly remember him being funny like Dunky, but this was just complaining with little effort 😔
I think it'd be cool to have an Xcom-style game with a premise similar to Evil Genius - recruit minions, build a base, research and produce new weapons, slowly expand your influence...
Have you tried Phantom Doctrine? Without getting into spoilers, your PC operative is... not nice. Possibly not even "good". The game plays like new Xcom (with some of the inferior 'updates' removed) meets old Covert Action.
And then you lose your squad because you foolishly spotted the enemy first, so they get 1.5 turns before your next one instead of 0.5 turns if they'd found you on their own.
Who else remembers THAT brilliant bit of game design? Eh? =D
I would love that. Basically Evil Genius but with XCOM's tactical layer. Design your own henchmen, maybe.
This would be amazing. At the very least I'd never say no to another Xcom clone.
That would be quite *H O T*
This is actually one of the things that was lost in X-COM made by Firaxis in 2010s. Because the original X-COM:Enemy Unknown in 1993 had base management from building your base up to deciding paycheck for your stuff and buying fuel/ammo and many other things... But what is more interesting in case if aliens ATTACK YOUR BASE - it would use exactly the same layout you made in your tactical management screen - You placed Hangar near the labaratory? During the mission it will be in the same spot! - though it also meant that any destruction - and this 90s game had FULL destruction - you were able to blow up walls if needed... Or enemy were able to blow up your dropship with everyone inside - which layered on top of that fight happens INSIDE your base - meant that there are civilian personnel that you hired - engineers and scientists - that you would prefer to be alive by the end of it and also your ROOMS that you rather not damage because building them costed you a fortune and repairing them will cost you time on top of paying for it which sometimes you simply can't afford.
This was secretly a concept test for "Mankind Has Yet to Recognize My Genius"
Read the end credits
The guy in the thumbnail looks like he's going to hope no one looks at his plans while he's sleeping.
But they'll never look at his plans when he's sleeping.
*Because he's never sleeping.....*
Evil never sleeps.
But it does rest.
SAND IN THE EYES!
@@l.e.a.d.761 And occasionally it sits down
Hello Kale, fancy seeing you here.
Funny how a remake 15 or whatever years later happens to have same unplayability issues as the first game, exactly how I remember them.
Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaa - I was hoping they'd learn from their past mistakes but...apparently not. I wonder if casinos at least work this time.
@@lissaquon607 it does and makes it really feel like a cover op though it has to be setup right with enough distraction minions, enough tables/distractions, multiple rooms, zones, and security cameras
@@nates9105 Not really a source of income though, which makes me sad. I really wish you could have invested in the casino, so it could have been a steady source.
Also, after awhile, the minions stop using the front door, so the casino becomes useless.
You can turn it into a source by setting the tables/distractions to Scam Tourists. Granted it will not earn as much as the crime you can do around the world but it'll still build your bank when cooling down from all the heat
@@nates9105 You get what...$20 from them if you scam them? Maybe once every 30 seconds if the casino is busy. That is not "building your bank" when you need $500,000 constantly.
"Thats what happens when you let the fuckers to unionise"
I love this series for infinite amount of quotes they provide.
That made me want to make a Amazon Super villian.
@@exodore2000 Oh so real life then?
@@nonamepasserbya6658 That was the idea, unsafe working conditions and inhumane treatment. Or as Jeff Bezos calls it, tuesday.
Too many damn limitations on the base building of this base building game.
Actually I don't think there are. You can easily make a room a half and half room, with bunk beds from the barracks and a lunch table from the cafeteria. You just have to zone it right, kind of like SimCity or whatever
Reminds me of Warcraft 1. In where u could only build 1 town hall. But could only build it after your starting one was destroyed. But u could only build it where your starting one was destroyed.
@@ultimatehamsandwich734 isn't that more of a rts though?
@smelly paws yes and no, because you can easily put rooms within rooms, or make combination rooms. It's really not that limiting.
Unrelated side note : For the love of God, DO NOT eat Cheetos while playing Magic, you'll regret it.
I know from experience
RIP foils
You can, if you eat them with chopsticks.
@@ThavronMakes I might challenge my brother to a battle and eat Cheetos with chopsticks I will tell how it goes in a couple days
@@acejoker1477 it's been a month, any updates?
Having rewatched this now I've finally actually played the game, I'm guessing Yahtzee never found the auto distract and auto kill research options, nor did he discover that you can build types of rooms merged together, eg a mess hall with a few tiles of "corridor" inside it so you can build a stairway connecting an upstairs and downstairs mess hall and get your split level food court.
Hell, you don't even actually have to have walls in your base. You could technically make the whole damn thing an open floor plan 😂
It's so nice that they're not interested in improving the games they're remaking. Startopia is another example of remaking something worse than the original... They all have the feel of almost getting it to the same level but then went "why bother?".
I remember seeing the new world map in EG2 and thinking "Huh, so, no more radio DJs eh? What did they replace those with?" and the answer seems to be "Really awfully written go-nowhere babble events with two barely animated characters". The whole game feels like filler content written by hacks. Where's the cackles? The madness? The joy? Anything?
@@hazukichanx408 I was thinking the same, and at some point i said to miself, it is 2021, of course with nothing, why bother, you put it, and then several will clap like seals
Was huge fan of first one... played some 10hours of EG2 and i have to admit everything said in this video is true. Sure old one was clunky in many areas but new one while improving some... also has some very questionable design decisions. You cant go from one game menu to another... always needing to "close current" to open next even tho you have a hotbar... transport helicopter take literally ages to put minions around the world... for doing 3 jobs u are blocking whole world map for at least 10mins while it go one by one, type of minion around... even new minions use helicopter to get on island ?! Guards pick weapon locker by random, some superagents spawn directly in your vault and are impossbile to kill... trying to do that u literally lose 99% of your minions unless u are some 3/4 in story to fight them... i want to love this game but... its hard
I went looking for a review of the original one, which is also one of my favorites. I was hoping he'd do kind of a comparison or something. Glad to see your comment here.
The monocle is colonel Klink from *Hogan's Heroes* since HE'S the archetype for comically inept villain mastermind
Blofeld never had a monocle; he had a cheek scar that ran the length to his brow; there weren't too many villains with bald head and pointed nose, ppl probably combined the two in their zeitgeist pre-internet
"Just wait til' you hear about ladders."
Or fire poles... or elevators... or dumbwaiters. Or literally a pulley and gravity in general.
"Saint Bungalows School for the Wheelchair Bound" - fuck, that got me.
Protip: In the early game, use Valet minions, freeze traps, and distractions to keep investigators out of your base without to throw guards into the meat grinder ever five seconds.
Which is made even easier to do now that they've patched it so that the low level agents no longer go 'Nah, I don't like being distracted' and fight you anyway even if you've put to distract them.
After which the first super agent will show up, inside your vault, steal half your money, kill half your minions, bugger off only after taking your genius down to 30 health and then _immediately_ reappear because you just finished building two more surveillance cameras to "prepare for" her. Spoiler: They Do Not Help.
Also Spoiler: Neither Do Traps.
Further Spoiler: She will happily shoot all of your unarmed valets, technicians and other non-hostile staff because why not.
@@NuminorTheFool Wait they patched that? Great! It was honestly getting Annoying.
@@hazukichanx408 I'm pretty sure Symmetry is the only super agent who can teleport into your vault. But yeah super agents are tough and there's no shame in losing most of your guards in a fight with a super agent.
@@hazukichanx408 OH *THATS* WHY SHE CAME BACK RIGHT AWAY?! CAUSE THE TRAPS?
I thought it was a glitch or some RNG fluke
as a bond fan I appreciate the references to Dr. No and Blofeld
Zero Punctuation prog rock track of the week:
*Mankind Has Still Yet To Realise His Genius* by *Whirling Labryrinths Of Death*
Zero Punctuation quirky indie post-rock track of the week:
*Trudging For A Twix* by *Owl Stretching Facility*
5:05 The thing is, Super Agents are as bad at their dedicated jobs as your minions are.
The deadliest of super agents isn't the one with the machine gun, who specifically came to fill you with bullets, it's the one that's coming to nick your stuff, and just happens to have overstatted backup thieves that can maul through your army and your henchmen with their bare hands.
In 2 you can freely mix and mash rooms. No minimum sizes or requirement to have a wall+door seperating the rooms.
That specific items need to go into specific rooms is a affordance to allow pathfinding to operate remotely efficient.
Honest critique from having about 2 days of play time so far:
1. Yeah, the room thing is kinda goofed. It is a hold over from the original, but so far does feel kinda worse than the original, but mostly this was just an issue carried over. Definitely feel like they could get rid of a few room types, and allow more things in all rooms.
2. No direct control I think is needed for balance. Having a base now that devastates the investigators, this would have been a total joke to make if I could directly control the minions. Plus you do have access to henchmen who are your direct controls. Granted there is very few of those and they're tough to get past the first, but have the right ones and you can wreck incoming waves with some good micro. One thing though that annoys me is both Henchmen and EG alike have a massive case of tunnel vision. If they're involved in a fight but getting wreck and you want to pull them out, you have to keep ordering it again and again and again and again because they will immediately return to the fight. So, basically once they're in a fight, they're committed. Best you can do is get some distance and hope your minions tank for you.
3. Tagging system is also mostly a hold over, with one change; instead of being able to mass tag a group, you have auto tag zones. I have found this is overall better, but haven't been able to play much with the kill auto tag yet. Distract though works very well for its purpose.
4. Yeah, your EG isn't that strong. You can easily deal with the trash, but anything tough comes along and you are in serious trouble. Building up your minions stats helps, as does having the right henchmen or trap combos. While the supers are good at disabling them, if you have enough they will get caught and start to get wrecked fast.
You obviously played more than the 10 minutes he spend playing it :)
Ivans Rocket launcher if done right you can solo super agents and their group because of the knockdown effect. XD zones work well and with the hot fix the valets don't die as often anymore trying to escort the investigators back to the cover operations. I liked the trap design more in EG1 though. You had saws different poison traps and overall some just felt deadlier.
you have direct control. HENCHMEN!
I don't think Yatzee figured out that cameras make your guards go running after agents as soon as they enter the field of vision. Also there is an auto-tagging research you can get, I always set the casino to auto-distract so any agents who enter keep getting stuck playing the slots and losing all their money.
They made a game with actual sequential numbering in it's title. Instant 10/10!
Imagine shooting the one DoorDash guy who delivers to an evil volcanic island smh...XD
Ah shit! I shot the ONE guy who delivers...now where am I gonna get all my cool stuff mailed
@@thedawsonator1628 It will be interesting if there is a show that goes with this idea. The villain is defeated not because of heroes or by traitors, he just shot dead the Doordash guy by accident so now he is stranded in the volcano/desert/arctic etc.... with no supplies
That credits gag felt like something right out of 8-bit Theatre, and had me chucking like a right loon!
Fair criticism. I've enjoyed a fair bit into Evil Genius 2, and I'll be playing some more, but I would say you CAN have things like stairways in dining halls and rooms all together - there's no penalty for painting several rooms in one area. My barracks has a dining hall and staff room in it, and it works perfectly fine. The staff room is right by the entrance of the barracks, completely open with no walls around it. The game allows you to get creative with stuff like that. You could paint a corridor in a dining hall and stick the stairs in there.
It still needed more fun, but it's got its charm, and I definitely enjoyed it.
Yahtzee glad to see your still going strong. Last time I watched your videos I was 12. To put that into perspective I'm 25 now.
3:03 All geniuses can use an ability to prioritize the jobs he's near. Or you can go to the minion manager and assign what jobs they should prioritize. Warning, they will not be picked when starting world domination schemes, so you'll have to deassign that priority for them to leave.
3:45 Use the henchmen. Put guard posts in the corridors. Put cameras to warn the guards in the security room. Goddamn dude. You can later research a system to automatically tag intruders in certain areas to Distract, Capture or Kill. This should be available from the beginning, though.
3:55 There's keybindings for assigning Distract, Capture or Kill an agent. Z X and C , i decided
It's almost as if he forgot to put any surveillance cameras in his base, and didn't get far enough to discover how quickly his evil genius dies to a crack team of agents when no one's there to help them because they all quit when they had to clamber over the corpses of their mates to get to bed.
The eternal grind to unlock tier 3 and 4 research items...
Oh god. Took me like 14 hours to hit tier 3. I don't even wanna start a new island because of how long it'll take
Yea.. cause they're locked behind biologists.
I get why, but if you're even just casually researching you're gonna end up with all done for like an hour or 2 before you get biologists
bloody hell am i still 10h away from tier 3? jesus fucking christ
I haven't heard or seen the word "oubliette" since Metroid Prime Hunters. Thanks for the nostalgia Yatz
This video made me think about whether Yatzee ever reviewed War for the Overworld, but apparently he hasn't. That's a bit of a bummer, that one is a proper Dungeon keeper-esque game, even if it has a few flaws.
Amazing... This sounds incredibly close to a word by word repeat of the Computer Gaming World magazine review of the first Evil Genius two decades ago with the exact same complaints about inefficiencies, bad AI, Evil Genius unit being overpowered, etc. They gave it 2 stars then but they're merciful like that.
I don't recall the Evil Genius in the first game having any direct combat ability other than being able to execute your minions to encourage the others.
@@RydWolf they didnt at their best they were glorifired meatshields with an influence aura to stop the units around them from going crazy though if worst comes to worst you can off a minion to bring everyone back to full in a large area
@@caellanmurphy4751 That was what I thought, so it's weird that the Computer Gaming World review that WhiteFang mentioned talked about the Evil Genius unit being 'overpowered'.
It's interesting to see Yahtzee at his desk in various areas of the screen besides the usual bottom right corner.
Playing Magic unsleeved while eating Cheetos? They really are evil!
Heist: Steal all Black lotuses in the world. Unlocks more recovery for minions when they play unsleeved magic with cheeto hands.
Yahtzee’s frustration about his incompetent base design reminds me of that American Dad James Bond parody episode involving a joke with Roger hiring a contractor, who was hot (he said it not me), to build his base but everything falling apart like someone getting stuck on a slide to a water tank, his minions falling through the floor, and his escape pod falling into a volcano because it was lacking fuel.
"Why did i have to research a staircase" Welli see your stair case and i raise you a tier 4 upgrade that is locked because its to complex to research is folding cloths to make more space for minions that vosts like 80k..... sooooo lol
Me: , Google "Oubliette", 'I see',
Maybe if this studio agreed to license this game under Illumination Entertainment and have it recast as Gru building a base with his Minions, the gameplay can be advanced because then it's not taking itself so seriously.
Damn, he’s still doing these after all these years... i remember watching his video with Gabriel on his own channel
Mankind Is Yet To Realise My Genius needs to be made. Yes, I'm talking to you Benjamin Yahtzee Sebastian Dragon Croshaw. And after that, your reverse leveling RPG. Chop-chop!
I'm not sure how often Yahtzee reads the comments, but I am thrilled to inform him that I knew the answer to a Trivia question at work, only because I watch all of his videos :D Thanks for telling me about Rocket League!
Personally, I like how hands-on you have to be when running your base: Making sure all your resources are managed, your operations are being productive/lowering their heat, and DEALING with those STUPID AGENTS with my ROBOT SECRETARY (which, in my opinion, is the best control option in the early game if you know how to use her security camera trait)
But I understand why that might not be to everyone's liking. Traps don't reward you for combinations, it doesn't encourage that much creativity and favors efficiency instead, and it punishes you for not learning how to strategize by the mid-game (using protocols, managing heat, keeping minion traits high, etc.)
Taking minion, dropping it in a room and slapping it a bit about to make them build the room faster was the best part about Dungeon Keeper. I swear I am a well adjusted adult by now. I only once in a while get the urge to do that in the real world as well.
It has been a LONG time since I watched a video from this series, but seeing you took this one on caught my attention.
just take a second to try and imagine what a world with Yahtzee as absolute dictator would actually be like
*oh god*
3:55 armless Yahtzee
You can build a corridor area inside the cateen area to build stairs.
Well answer for most of presented issues is simple... GIT GUT. 1. Use cameras and autotags for your guards to work. Place 2x2 corridor inside rooms for cameras, guard stations and stairs (it requires a bigger corridor). 2. Not every muscle type can use every gun, no rifles or staffs for you guards. it could also be a bug, because game is a buggy mess and hotfixes are laughable. I am still waiting for fix to John Steele so he stops breaking a shark tank when he steps on it. You can easlly kill super agent with your OP henchmen like IRIS or Lubej, if not then making agent fight in melee a minion while 10 more shots him in back is a valid strategy. 3. Dont make only one entrance to base from your cover operation. Build 2 or more decoy corridors filled with traps and dead end so agents lose resorve before they even put a step in your lair. 4. Dont use shitty traps like boxing gloves. Focus on bee nest trap and freezing ray.
I love the original game, but my biggest complaint is, and always will be, how both my minions and cameras will completely ignore any and all intruders until I personally find and target them.
At 3:56 I realized that the same issue persists in the remake.
Good to know that the ONE thing I wanted fixed went completely ignored. I'll still probably play it though.
you can automate it later on. RESERCH!
Think Yahtzee may have misunderstood this game. Which is pretty damn rare. All jokes aside based on all of his "criticism" of this game I'm willing to be they added to the authenticity of said game, especially the gross incompetence of the henchmen. The game really seems like how it WOULD be to be a Bond villain within the actual Ame Bond universe. Lol.
The problem is the game has softlocks, bugs, and SERIOUS balance issues.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 Which theyre already patching.
@@falcon3792 "already"? Many of those issues were already in the original, 20 YEARS AGO.
I think the most disappointing thing is that there isn't a villain monologue before you kill the invader simulator. It would be awesome to have a point system for generating a good monologue and killing them or generating a good monologue and then escaping and returning stronger.
That would probably be the only time in the history of gaming that I actually enjoy f****** dialogue trees
Well I guess it would be a monologue tree
Alright I know I need to stop I'm thinking about situational differences between the invasions and how you respond to them.
Okay f*** it I seen you make a game in a month. And I've read your work you're a good writer . Make a text-based game out of just doing a good villain monologue while still being able to kill them at the end or having to redo it if you don't do it right.
@@jonofthehill while the 1st game didnt have evil monologues either. everytime you did a world map mission(or failed one) youd get a radio broadcast based on where you stole frorm(EVEN antarctica)
This review reminded me of an old and lovely PS1 spin-off from Mega Man - The MisAdventures of Tron Bonne - and her small army of servbots who play various mini-games (some involving torture) to improve their stats and earn her more money.
1:13 there's punctuation there, how scandalous
clearly it's just a misplaced apostrophe
'Why can't I order my minions to deal with enemies directly?!' *Completely omits the Henchmen, who you can order directly.*
Dont think he got that far. also seems to have missed the whole can set zones for auto tagging enemy's
@@Chacesumica I can forgive the auto tagging features because it takes ages to unlock the basic distract order.
pretty much everything he says you can't do in this "review" you actually can do. he just didn't take the time to "play" the game.
The funny thing is the whole supper agent thing happened to me. Had the master thief one bring like 6 lackies. It took all my guards to stop the lackies then the super agent made to my inner sanctum and got really engrossed in the mega loot I had nicked and promptly got wasted by my evil genius. Love the reviews
pretty much everything he says you can't do in this "review" you actually can do. he just didn't take the time to "play" the game.
What I take from this and games like Dungeon Keeper is that the *idea* of being a cackling evil mastermind is a lot more enjoyable than the reality of it.
Everyone know you should never try to take over the world. Too much paperwork making sure the entire thing doesn't burst into flames.
From a quick scan on Google trends, oubliette has surged up in searches since this video was published.
“Mankind has still yet to realise his genius”
I get that ..... heh
I had similar problems with the first game, which tells us that the devs barely budged an inch in fifteen fucking years.
My big mistake was designing a base that intruders would have a hard time reaching me in, making it a big, long, winding series of hallways that meant my enemies would have to go through all of my troops and all of my defenses before they could reach me. Anyone that's ever played a video game may recognize this as the standard, perfectly fucking sensible approach of dungeon design; keep the thing you want safe/hidden all the way at the back with the maximum number of hazards between it and those who might threaten it.
This did not go over well with my dipshit minions, who proved increasingly useless the bigger my base got, no matter how I arranged/added rooms to meet their needs. For whatever it's worth, I went 10 hours without a single enemy goon so much as getting within sniffing range of my evil mastermind, but then some agents tunneled into my cafeteria, shot at some vending machines, and mostly blew themselves up, teaching me that they could essentially teleport anywhere they wanted at any time and putting any thought designing my base (and by extension the entire game) was completely goddamn pointless.
"Genius" is the very last word that should be used to describe these games.
Is he gonna review Rhythm Doctor? Literally embodies his strong primary gameplay loop mantra.
Man, gotta love anytime you get to use the word oubliette!
Outstanding review. I was laughing so much I couldn’t breathe!
Bro, I love the game and have been playing nonstop since release.
Breakfast grapefruit vs grapefruit? There’s a difference? You know asking the important questions
What disappoints me a bit is that despite an interesting concept it all feels rather bland. Wouldnt an evil genius think a little bit outside the box. Its just all Frank got one parking ticket to much and now the world has to pay.
He's pretty much hit the nail on the head with this review. It is a great game but it could have been amazing if it had only allowed you to actually select and delegate to specific minions. I mean they have a whole minion status screen with all their statistics on it but it legitimately means bugger all because you can't interact with anyone.
That would really go againt the dungeon keeper esque gameplay, tho. The fact you don't have direct control over your minion is a featutre, not a bug. It IS kind of the point. (As was the case int he first evil genius)
Though I'll agree I do wish you could prioritze a minion to be trained in a branch or another in priority, since they added traits to the minion. The first game has a punchclock object that allowed to genraly influnece at how much capacity a rom was staffed at any time, which could haave been improved or replaced by say a roster sytem. It is somewhat of a waste that thethe new game complelty removed it as far as I can tell.
@@s.m.2523 I mean. It really wouldn't go against the dungeon keeper esque because in Dungeon Keeper you could pick up any amount of minions you wanted to. Hell I've dumped entire armies on heroes heads in that game.
pretty much everything he says you can't do in this "review" you actually can do. he just didn't take the time to "play" the game. he didnt even get out of the tutorial.
I wonder how he would like Rim world, Machivillian, Kingdoms and castles, and Dwarf fortress seeing how they kind play out that way.
He said in the play stream he doesn't like them. Anything RTS like he doesn't seem to like.
@@psugab Some poeple are like that.
@@thebohemian814 and that's okay. I love RTS and this game sounds kinda fun.
This is by far the best one out of at least the last dozen
Has the creator of this not realised that you don't need walls? All you have to do is designate some tiles in a room as those of another room, then you can put other objects in it. You can have the whole base open-plan: the minions seem to be deaf, and aren't concerned as they work away at an info desk right next to a fusion engine. The gun racks are an irritation: it almost seems that once a minion picks up a staff, say, he'll not use anything else, ever. So you have to wait for mortality to let the minions with the weaker weapons die off, whilst carefully bringing in the more powerful racks and removing the old ones. There are problems with the game, but I've noticed that there is a lot going on under the surface: if your minions aren't happy enough, for example, things seem to go wrong more often. And there are a lot of variables for their happiness, including the sleeping quarter, the entertainment areas, and the food hall. This is after an initial, but long, run-through: I suspect the game has interesting mechanics that take a while to work out. Just my 2 cents' worth.
WHERE ARE THE LITTLE GOLF CARTS FOR MY MINIONS TO DRIVE AROUND THOSE HUGE CORRIDORS IN? EVERY EVIL LIAR HAS THEM!
At least let us put a travelator.
The trick to super agents is to pick a good super henchman to fight them. Those guys you can control.
As in the last game Junbei is the objectively superior first pick as he's a combat power house that can teleport.
Problem is that super agents are the only thing that can permanently kill your henchmen - and you need specific conditions (that you first need to build) to kill the super agent.
Wow, that "Mankind has still yet to realise his genius" part in the credits could be a callback to the idea for a supervillain game he coined in his Saints Row 2 video all the way back in 2008.
Now that's attention to detail.
He put "mankind has yet to recognise my genius" in a previous end credit, don't ask me which, though...
I hope those Magic: The Gathering cards were sleeved; Cheeto dust is hell on cards.
I don't often comment on videos, and although I did have a good time watching this one, I feel like alot of these pointed out issues could be fixed by just getting better at the game, and looking into it's features. There's ways to mark off whole areas as 'kill on sight' and your minions will attack who ever they see sneaking in even if you don't tag, as well as you can use in game abilities to tell your minions to focus on tasks in one area. PLUS your special henchmen WILL respond to direct commands and can be controlled. I feel like maybe some one forgot to play the tutorial... I know speed is important for reviews, but even I know this stuff after a few hours of gameplay. TLDR; Yhatzee is [no offence] bad at the game, and it's more fun once you know what you're doing.
"Better smart enemy then dumbass in your ranks."
And based on this review, you get to enjoy a lot of both.
honestly yahtzee really does point out the biggest plothole with "Evil smart person" trope. Like just cause you're smart and know more than somebody doesn't mean you're out to get everybody. You still need labourers to work the factories. They're evil not stupid.
If anything the whole thing of thanos-esque dudes being villians is likely just the average layman's insecurity
In the minon management menus you can select what task a dude will prioritize.
You're complaint about the super agents is a little hollow as you can avoid them on 5he world map in order to keep them away
It's a pain if it's like the first one - you have to place turrets and cameras outside and wait for your scientists to unlock research of disguised ones. You have to use the alerts to make them run or walk to grab guns but then you have to listen to that awful alarm. On the first game if you used high alert and had your security desk manned they'd run for weapons and shoot anything within view of cameras and turrets without having to target each enemy individually.
2:10 Question: How do minions of the evil overlord unionise? Imagine being a minion and going to the overlord telling him that you have formed a union. What do you think would happen next?
2:37 Ackhtually, one of the villains is in the... *cough* wheelchair, so... maybe?
also if you do setup your base full of traps you get exactly one use out of them before somehow every agent from the same agency suddenly know they are there and just goes and disables them before they even trigger and before you even know they were there in the first place
I haven't had that experience.
I just had a few normal agents disable some occasionally, then walk directly into the next trap.
What i find annoying is that super agents just disable them all. I get them being the creme de la creme but that's a bit much.
I still am having fun. It's cool to design the base and watch it grow over time. Idk. I'd recommend it. Just my opinion.
pretty much everything he says you can't do in this "review" you actually can do. he just didn't take the time to "play" the game.
You could always do like the gorillaz and convert the floating plastic mass into a island and build a base on it
The devs should've made another AvP game.
I didn't know that I deeply desired this. Thank you
I always watch Zero Punctuation twice. Once before I play the game and again after I've played the game.
Was not expecting the big fuck off gun
Props to anyone else who got the "Owl Stretching Time" reference.
I loved the original... Despite its gaping flaws. It was a fun concept and watching my minions dash around with cases full of gold was always fun.
The sequel is in some ways a big improvement, in others a massive step backwards. The lack of diversity in torture methods. The lack of responsiveness in minions when ordered to the world stage. Etc.
And while I've had lots of fun with it, it's hard to say I actually like it. It feels like it was streamlined to add more mechanics and they were never added or so badly ballanced you'll never use them unless forced (like the super weapon which burns down half your base).
Maybe you should try factorio if all you wish is to build a base so efficient that it runs itself.
Having listened to "Will Destroy the Galaxy for Cash" this video seems quite fitting 🤣
My dude, if you wanted a two level lunch room, all you had to do was zone in corridor in the middle of your lunch room. Or to the side of your lunchroom, whatever you were wanting. The only limitation is the room zones and the fact that it has to be at least 3x3 squares. Although the stairs take 4x6.
I did a two level control room using that, it's not too difficult, you just need to zone right.
Also, your evil Genius is only able to take on the beginning level agents and investigators, as they get stronger he has put in more and more danger and you need more and more minions to defend him. Or traps. Whatever tactics you choose to go with.
Have you tried to research area management at the bottom of the minion's research? It allows you to set a room has an area and make all the agents "enemy's" in that area to get them out, imprison them, or kill them.
pretty much everything he says you can't do in this "review" you actually can do. he just didn't take the time to "play" the game.
The fact a simple QoL feature is locked behind waiting 15 minutes to an hour researching only for it to get in the way during raids is baffling and counter intuitive. Especially when your options of research are things that are guaranteed upsides like space preservation or Stat ups for certain minions. Having a way to auto check every investigator every 3 minutes isn't really something that good when compared. By the time any player researches it, its way too late in the game and you have bigger things to worry about.
@@1981troyboy The game is a huge time sink and in the worst way possible, missions take forever, money is such a non issue and the boss fights can be beaten by spamming yellow suits at them. You are punished for bad minion ai with entire squads of units that mow down units by stunlocking them and your only hope is to either use a really good henchman ability or just spamming workers until it's over.