How humans are exploiting the oceans | DW Documentary
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2023
- What would be the consequences of industrial exploitation of the ocean floor? A deep-sea expedition in the Pacific explores this question. Raw materials have been mined on land for thousands of years, often with negative consequences for nature and people.
Deep down in the ocean, valuable raw materials are stored en masse: manganese, nickel, cobalt, copper. Many of these materials are currently in great demand. Technically, it is possible to harvest manganese nodules, for example, in the deep sea. But should we do it? Even among the researchers aboard the "Island Pride," opinions differ. They are part of a deep-sea expedition to research the possible effects of harvesting raw materials on the ocean floor. What will be the consequences if humans exploit these valuable deposits? Will it destroy the fragile underwater environment?
Reporter Michael Stocks and his cameraman spent weeks aboard the ship, on which scientists are monitoring the deployment of a giant underwater harvesting machine on the ocean floor. Humans are dredging the sand from beaches, overfishing fish stocks worldwide - is the seabed now to be industrially exploited as well?
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"Mines are often located in politically unstable countries," is the nicest way of alluding to the correlation between "you guys have a lot of minerals" and "we would like those minerals, while paying your people as little as possible and siphoning money from your government to cover our operating costs"
Exactly right. Some horrific stuff is going on around the world but so long as the right politicians get their cut they let their own countries get destroyed by foreign mining, no matter the cost.
Well summarized Tales Of Unity. Alot of foreign aid "projects" goes to infrastructure the vast majority people can't afford to use. Our social/economic system is a disaster
Well summarized: We like your minerals as you have lower environmental standard and - in worst case child labor - and we do not like our mining as this might have negative implications for our living standard.
Thanks you two. Such a unique time we live in, when UA-cam videos can expose everyday citizens to the inhumane practices in supply chains or their own community. Let's hope our hearts and capacity to take real actions grow to meet these opportunities for change ✊🏽✊️✊🏼✊🏽
so sad, and the fact that the receive low wages for the risky job is unacceptable. global need to do something because it happen for long long time
Greed and ignorance is the perfect recipe for disaster... And humanity is in no shortage of theese...🙆
Your words proved totally right today 💯
do you have a house and maybe a car?
and too many kids
"We won't rest, until our very own world is destroyed" - DD
We now have the technology
to do better! And for mining...
time to explore rock in space!
@@rubenverheij4770 I like your optimism
By the time our “very own world is destroyed” we’ll have the technology to terraform entire planets as well as our own. Technology can’t progress if you don’t consume. Developing each technology to the point of consuming less and less until it no longer consumes more than is naturally cycled is the goal. You can’t develop said technologies without them being inefficient at some point. Stop worrying about a single planet we’re on that will eventually be destroyed anyway whether we’re here or not. Speeding that destruction up slightly makes no difference if it lets us develop technology to move elsewhere or even reverse that damage done. I hate to break it to you but this life raft is going to be destroyed anyway one day, we eventually will have to leave regardless of how well we take care of it. No amount of ozone or fish in the ocean is going to stop a planet size object from slamming into earth, or the sun from swallowing it up in a supernova.
"Science never solves a problem without creating ten more." George Bernard Shaw.
Yep, let's abandon everything and regress to the caves. You first.
@@anydaynow01 We will all regress to the caves soon enough without to have to abandon anything. Happy days.
Indeed ! Me watching that lady from RGS, a Belgian main company said that going down to the seabed floor to mine IS NOT DESTROYING ANYTHING !!! IT MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL !!!!
There's really no science involved, only science is that there minerals on the ocean floor that can be collected to make money easier than moving millions of tons of earth to get the same minerals, the companies are just pretending to care about what is effect of mining the ocean floor, they are going to do it no matter what the scientist say
Especially where money is involved.
57:53 "Personally, I would rather consume less (...) and not touch the sea floor"
Unfortunately, the billionaires need more money. Their corporations have to grow.
Thank you Anna and the Lantuna Conservation team. I really appreciate what you do, and am sure it'll not be in vain.
Sadly, once all the available land mining sites are tapped out and mines reach the earths crust, the oceans will eventually come next. At least it won’t be a few thousand years.
Yes it will, if the population keeps growing how do u think the planet can feed 50-100 million people? Everything in the oceans will be gone. It’s inevitable.
I saw the title and asked myself 'what are human not exploiting'? We are everywhere like a bad disease!
We need to control population first in 3rd world countries and Secondly, sustainable development is need of the current time's.
The only creature that destroys everyone and everything
Exactly... HUMAN is bad disease for the planet & as soon as possible human extinction is good for entire planet Kingdom.
We have been exploiting our fellow humans 1000s of years now
What’s the answer? Stop reproducing? No, humans need to find a way to reuse, recycle, stop filling land fills with items that cannot decompose. That’s a start
Human beings dig immense mines in search of rare minerals, transport what they find for thousands of kilometers where they will be refined and transformed into raw material for sophisticated electronic products. These goods, sold at high prices, became trash in less than a decade. Their obsolescence is programmed. Recycling the minerals used in these things is troublesome, not always economically viable. No matter how much rare ore is available in the trash, new mines need to be discovered and exploited, now even at the bottom of the ocean. The logic of electronics production is the constant waste of increasingly rare and expensive materials. This is a fundamental flaw of modern economics that economists prefer not to even discuss. How long should a smartphone last? The one I'm using now is 2 years old. Hopefully it will continue to work reasonably well for another year before the battery dies or the tiny buttons break (this happened with my previous smartphone). If industries were required to design and produce smartphones that last 5 years or more, a good deal of waste could be avoided. But that would reduce their profit and industrialists prefer to pay bribes to politicians to keep everything as it is, no matter how much waste, garbage and destruction of nature this economic model produces. So there is no hope for our civilization.
Or even if there were a federal refund fee attached to phones and other electronic consumer goods that can be recycled. For automobile batteries it's called a core charge and it is the reason recycling those batteries is such a success. It is also why in states where a refund for bottles leads to a higher recycling rate than most others. If you teach children repeatedly in school about recycling and hit folks in their wallet, or corporate executives with crimes and jail time they will fall in line and actual recycling rates will increase dramatically.
You’re so right! What they don’t want you to even consider is that the future isn’t even battery powered or solar panel powered because those too are unsustainable or can’t provide enough energy to power a cargo boat across the ocean to deliver all the goods Americans gobble up.
The future will be about cutting back. Not looking for the same outcome with just a different energy source. We have to do a complete lifestyle change and no one wants to talk about that.
The corporations try to sell you a Prius that makes you feel good like you’re helping the planet but they don’t tell you that the battery’s are dumped in poorer countries and don’t degrade. And poison the environment.
What a writing..
Mines going on 8 years and everything is fine jusf two slightly dark spots on the screen from getting dropped once, no cracks, batt still lasts longer than a day.
Ofcoarse i dont keep on im my pocket much tho.
Good point but where is the evidence that the problem lies with greedy suppliers, rather than with the growing demand that a growing human population creates?
Is there a danger? You are showing the Robots hovering up the minerals. When it hovers up the minerals it also hovers up everything else including the creatures, organisms and destroy the surface sea bed.
there are way too many issues above the surface of the sea to care all that much about the whales and the fishes and tissues in the seas
AS ALWAYS IT IS GREED! Profits now, never worry about consequences. Our oceans are down to being almost fished out. I am old and have been aware of this since I was 14. Now I am a grandfather to four wonderful kids and feel ashamed of what planet we are giving them.
Thank you for being an aware boomer. I wish there were more like you. Because you're generation is still very much the one in charge.
Destroying the natural environment to build artificial one
Greed without regulation, nor accountability.
You choose capitalism as the system to base society on, you get this.
China nor Russia nor any autocratic regime has taken more action on climate change than this capitalism on steroids because there's no regulation nor accountability on either.
Lets abolish capitalism before it kills us
@@walkerwyatt2975 Thanks for the non-argument, random online commenter.
@wyatt2975 "You didn't offer arguments to support your first comment, either"
Did you ask for one?
Joking is all well and fine, but when you crack an overused, tired cliché line associated with halfwits who think they actually expose socialism with that "gotcha", you can't really expect not to be associated with that, you know.
Such an informative and convincing documentary! Respect for whole team who made it happen.
The sea turtle crawling around on the rocks looking for the sand from which she was liked birthed... Breaks my heart man.
The lady @11:00 is absolutely convinced mining the ocean floor is an alternative and will save rain forests. She forgets if they aren’t doing it, other people will be. The producer or consumer will still not care where the minerals came from. Sad world
I want to say thank you so much for peoples who are working hard to save our environment and animals 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏.
This attitude of "New technology will save the earth from catastrophe" is very damaging. Rather than changing life habits like, demanding more public transportation option instead of resource intensive electric cars is giving everyone the false impression that they don't have to change their life style, and the existing socio-economic system will solve everything without any fundamental change. This attitude and way of thinking is going to horribly end for all of humanity.
Saving the climate by sacrificing the climate, burning the bridge we're trying to cross.
The spice will flow.
Don't worry the planet will be fine once humans are gone, shits been around for billions of year, at one time the whole earth was froze solid so I don't worry
DW thank you so much for sharing this documentary on UA-cam! thanks from the whole Lantuna team to everyone who has watched this documentary and for the messages of encouragement!!!! Sand extraction is a very serious problem in Cape Verde and it hurts the soul to see the sea turtles with their habitat destroyed and the whole landscape destroyed.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@DWDocumentary DW is surely a top notch media organization
Clean energy is not so clean. Ppl exploit and destroy everything giving any excuse. End of the day we can see what kinda harm ppl have done across the world. Sad to see ppl destroy everything 😢
Excellent rational high quality documentary work from DW as usual. Fast becoming one the best broadcasters in the world.
Except for the all the film score stealing.
Better than bbc
@DWDocumentary DW is surely a top notch media organization.
I hope they will temper their woke rhetoric propaganda though.
living on the coast of ireland for the last 60+ years i can tell you that the high and low tide levels have not changed 1 mm - they are the same today as when i fished from the rocks as a child - so can you please tell us exactly where you are seeing sea level increase , and when you do that please tell me how water flows uphill to the locations you claim to find sea level rise
As always a very good documentary. Very sad and disheartening on all levels. Amazing how some money hungry people go about plundering this beautiful planet. I love the father son fishing moral .."take only what we need". That is called sustainable living.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your feedback!
Taking “only what you need” is subjective. Only what you need to survive right this second? Or only what you need to progress? Progress requires consumption, without consumption there is no technology, without technology there is no progress. Hence why there’s people taking buckets of sand off a beach to sell instead of doing literally anything else lmao. There’s a reason countries like the above never actually progress. They just don’t bother developing any technology like the most basic of technology such as infrastructure, roads, hell a fkin wheel barrow so they can illegally collect sand even faster. Yet they worry about the here and now, not feeling like making a basic wheel barrow as an investment. So they’ll be forever stagnant.
The only part of your statement I disagree with is "we". I'm no part of this and my guess is you are not either.
@@christopherm5958if you aint vegan, you are part of the "we"
Kgalimer nobur when ever you a gift on own yours sustain clir seen optant that no more else right than you ,but oribamtihenad combliatin. call someone (owner )! Or have a republican.
Seems like the association that controls the sea floor mining is pretty tight with the German mining company. The office for the association has models of the mining equipment in it. Seems totally legit.
I use to love watching Jacques Cousteau when i was younger. Very nice to see his daughter is continuing his efforts to preserve the oceans. Jacques is a true legend and will always be remembered.
indeed, DW is enlightening people, thanks DW
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Credit to other great channels like Insider for also raising awareness.
This film prompts us to reflect on our actions and their implications for nature and future generations. Let's strive for a balanced approach that respects the ocean's delicate ecosystem while meeting human needs responsibly.
Ai......
I think human needs are considered relative to region and politics. This is the concern that poorer regions often raise. But the greedy will throw all their cash at politics to hold back reasonable austerity. And their default argument is one person can't make a difference; easily brainwashed by their own venal hubris. We all know who I'm talking about but even to describe the specific demographics who won't let you take away their regular 12 oz steaks is deemed enough of a threat to "their" culture for a vindictive response. Environmentalism is fighting against the dumbest but wealthiest people on the planet. Try telling them to be responsible.
About to watch.
It ain't about science,tis about GREED......
How about sand scoopers stop breeding knowing they scoop sand 😮
It seems odd that biologists would ironically be aboard an industrial mining ship that exploits the ocean floor thinking they are there in order to show that this exploitation of the sea floor shouldn't be happening, when in fact they are there to show that this exploitation can be done without great impact and allow it to continue like normal. Any real scientist or biologist would flatly refuse to go aboard such a deep mining vessel that destroys the very habitat these scientists are suppose to protect from these very vessels. What do you tell yourself at night to make what you do and where you're doing it from somehow beneficial to the protection of the very things you are meant to study, so that you sleep peacefully at night?
Exploring the depths of our oceans and contemplating the impact of industrial exploitation is a vital endeavor. This documentary provides valuable insights into the delicate balance between resource extraction and environmental preservation. Thank you for shedding light on this important issue.
This is not just an "industrial mass murder" of life and habitat in the biggest ecosystem on our planet but is also a long-term "suicide" for us as species. 😢 A great documentary as usual! ❤
But deep ocean mining is super important for affordable EV .
Thanks DW for the good description of the topic and how costly is moving sustainable and destroying whatever is left with us to live for our coming generations.. Sadly for the greed of billionaires they will dig anywhere and make their own laws and no regulations will stop them.. Thank you for the Team Anna we need more and more people like her who take small responsibility from our end and make this earth livable ..
Ai....
Painful to know this is happening
The sad part is there is an issue with the sand that comes from the ocean as well as the gravel. If it is used for concrete mixing it actually is not structurally safe as the high salt levels break the concrete down. It also destroys rebar inside the concrete. Sadly this is being done around the world. Many times the buyer or constructor is not aware of this but the problems are obvious over time.
I am surprised why they use salt water sands for construction too lol . we use river sands , and in my country , there are big problems with flooding , so removing sands from the river beds actually help stop flooding.
@@tomviktorsson5052
But you probably not African
Don’t they wash and rinse the sand before sending it to manufactures?
thank you very much for the messages of encouragement!!! It give us more strength to continue! thanks from the whole Lantuna team.
As usual, DW has given us another excellent documentary. It's amazing how much we've learned about space, and yet we know precious little about our oceans--some good questions raised here. I also appreciate the nod to (if not direct quotation of) the Jason Bourne movie theme.
Indeed DW has provided to the sheer public without any restrictions another excellent docu, thank you folks at DW!
Ai!!//¡//.
@@El.Duder-ino good. About to watch.
I have not yet watched the actual video- I am about to do so now- but I felt I needed to say that the title says it all and in a polite way. Well done!
I fracking love this channel
Frankly 😂😂😂or fracking
@@micaeloliveira2727 erm, I didn't expect anyone to interpret it that way!
Watch your fracking language. Geez.
If an economic system allows to waste billions or trillions of tons of food yearly instead of lowering the price to the point of recover the energy expend it, definetely is greed.
Sadly, we live in a irracional society that tries to justify itself over and over.
It honestly is so depressing, greenpeace(so is every other international organisation) is banned in my country and I wonder what can be done about all those bio-atrocities i've heard about
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Educate yourself, & search
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I hope this will push other
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Fair Economy World Wide!!
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After many days, DW made a very nice documentary✨.
Thank you for your comment!
Not to sure about the sand problem but the mining under the sea is scary seeing as they have already divided it up
Just setting one of the instruments down on the sea floor kicked up an immense amount of silt .. this is going to be a DISASTER for local wildlife 🤦♂️😢
Excellent and thought-provoking documentary indeed. Wouldn't it be better if the same workers would have been provided with some basic PPEs prior to filming this by the relevant DW and other staff? 🙂
Awesome. I will watch.
Crazy timing on this documentary.
Just finished reading Susan Casey's book 'The Underworld' and it mentions deep sea mining. The book is a great reference for anyone interested in the deep ocean. Thanks for the great documentary!
Awesome show thank you for the great documentary
Adorei ouvir a Ana, fala muito bem! Parabéns pelo excelente trabalho !
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35:06
Another brilliant documentary which will win awards
I have learned a lot. cheers to the team.
Ever heard of altruism? This is clearly the opposite. Thank you for making this documentary. It is important to see what is going on in the world and put a voice to the animals and people who have been silenced by the bigger, more rich societies.
Great Doc, learned allot
Matthias at the end, summarized it perfectly. What a huge gamble...
We need to start teaching our young about how to take care of their/our home/earth when they’re learning their first words. Children also learn soo much by doing and watching and explaining by the people around them. This earth we’re thrashing is our children’s lifeline without it there is nothing.
I love Mr Meyers’s work ethics!
Like they always say, greed is good in business!
10:39 watching corporate correspondents spout bull is my favorite party of documentaries. They really said we don't have to cut a single tree down and advanced green farming robots. Sadly I think they've are so brainwashed they actually believe it themselves.
perfect title for what just happened with the"titan" also perfect name for the submersible that imploded
Because human has no contentment, they became greedy- of money, power and possessions. And they undermined, true existence of Nature and Human being. Thank you DW for very informative documentary. You really are the best.
Thank you!!
Was an Rov Pilot for 30 Years
Amazing Job
I reflected on my actions that caused damage to the environment. I think that everyone should reflect their actions and try not to do in that way.
Lovely wonderful work. Study and appreciation of such richness. Please continue to be inspirational and inspired. Knowledge is a gift from God.
Amazing documentary. Well done.
Thanks for watching and for the feedback!
Humanity can benefit from simplicity
Samantha Smith Head of Sustainability for the Belgium mining company she is employed [emphasis added] says mining underwater doesn't require cutting trees or moving mountains like it does on land. Using that as justification to invade the ocean to mine metals just underscores the fact she is simply a pawn for the company GSR who employees her. There are mountains underwater and all kinds of living organisms and delicate environments they already said we know little about. The premiss and shift to mining underwater is that the damage of stripping the ocean floor will be hidden from lay citizens, it will be hard to monitor, out of sight out of mind is the plan. This is simply a plan to shift environmental damage from land to the ocean and does the opposite of reducing our environmental footprint.
Id love to knownmore about the underwater depths around my country not for self gain but to know more. With the amount of sea level changes i wouldnt be surprised if 100 feet lower there is old coastal reminisce of citys like we do now but unknown at the time of the sea changes. Thats alot less water alot of undiscovered civilizations
The soundtrack at the beginning is from the movie "The Bourne Identity".
Going from space junk to sea junk:(
As the thoughtful difficulties structured catastrophic activities associated landscapes and ocean patterns, we may initially find this frustrating. But occasionally breaking from our routines can put us in contact with others whose goals aren't similar to our possess. We should have an open mind because our ideal fellow workers may not always be what we anticipate.
It's possible that both data and feelings are at odds right now, reminding us that reasoning isn't always the most important factor. But when it clashes with impatient notions, we might feel compelled to act immediately, regardless of who is upset. It might be necessary to ask for compassion rather than permission, but at least it wouldn’t likely be granted. 🙏🧐😏🙄
We are all to blame for this as we all want the latest technology which is so so sad cause sooner or later Mother Nature is going up say enough is enough ( she’s already started getting angry ) .
Mother nature has taken of her shoe.... we all know from being kids that even looking wrong at this point can trigger a major a**whooping
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Never underestimate the power of human knowledge and skills in their endeavors!
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too much greed for those country that do these exploitation
Doing research!! for future mining!!
May the Anthropocene epoch make the Permian-Triassic extinction event seem like a minor footnote in the pages of Earths history. Here's to making scenario SSP5-8.5 of the IPCC assessment a reality.
Super magnet dredge will it work for colbalt
thank you
We should explore more the sea make it more profitable , for a better conservation.
Aquaculture, santuaries , energy, desalinization, hidrogen , metals better to regulate world wide this business.
We've been exploring land masses for centuries. Our future is the sea and we have to explore wile preserving better
Time to go to space
and explore life-less
rock, moon, planet!!
To go to space, use
elevator, instead of
old rocket science!
Even in space it's a
mess: rocket-waste.
And space, enough
space to explore all
new sciences (such
as new kind engine).
It was so sad seeing that sea turtle fail to find a nesting site. Urchins and jellyfish proliferate in the warmer and more acidic oceans, and sea turtles eat them, but no sand means no sea turtles. Hope you like eating jellyfish.
Ben is amazing. Please show more of him. And give him a pay rise.
Howard Hughes was checking these mineral nuggets for industrial usage/ profit.
I hate when people say there is no other way to make money
bad enough we are disturbing the bottom layer and all rare creatures it might contain
Jacques Cousteau will always be a legend🎉
I feel like life on earth has always survived by utilising things that are around us. It just that now the utilisation has converted into exploitation, not intentionally but with growing population and huge demand plus the comfortable lifestyle has brought us where we are. We just need to change our ways of life. We can’t phaseout oil and gas for ever and this documentary also shows that phasing them out will stress oceans in terms of mining.
What they don’t say in this vid is, yes the oceans are important, but what’s arguably just as important, if not more important, is the ocean currents.. yes, the ocean acts as a heat sync, absorbing the suns radiation and heat in our atmosphere, but without the ocean currents, the water would just sit where it is, getting hotter and hotter.. the ocean currents are what pull warm water from the equator, and cold water from the poles, and the MOST IMPORTANT thing they didn’t say is these currents can be stalled be fresh water being released by the ice sheets on land that aren’t already displacing water
Thanks for bringing how we humans exploit life that has been here loooong before us to the spotlight. It needs more attention, and it really needs to stop. #stopdeepseamining
That's great news! Lets screw up every corner of the planet so we can keep buying crap we don't need.
Influencers enough to convince us
Capitalism
🥲🥲🥲 really heart touching.
Thanks,
We will not stop until there is nothing left
This is sickening.
Very depressing to watch ... making me very very sad ....
the turtle returning after 20 years to the "sandy" beach it was born to lay it's eggs was shocking
wow...
The barren lands created on the surface. That is what will become of the seafloor. It's not hard to understand that
DW can you please choose your advertising clusters more carefully? Some of the ads I'm getting on this are wildly inappropriate or very loud...
People have to eat, lack of surveillance isn't the problem, the problem is a lack of ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY for parts of the populace
this came up whilst watching the titan news 😮
I have an idea how to control plastic waste. It’s not a stopping a plastic but it will change the entire thinking about plastic. I not sure where to open those ideas.
Wasnt Howard Hughes exploring the value of these nodules decades ago? How prescient .😮
Jacques-Yves Cousteau
Best ocean filming show