"They gave each other a pledge" is both the source of Tevye's anger and the reason for his acceptance. He value's a person's word. If he upholds his pledge to the butcher, it breaks the word of his daughter, and that is something he cannot abide. He will sacrifice his principles for those of his daughters. Tevye is a good man.
@@sheilas1283 No, it's corpse. I got the book script from Amazon in the spring of 2000, and it says "corpse". Also, for years, my mom and I thought he said "cough", not "cold" or "corpse".
To me, its the greatest line Motel says in the film. Before this he is shy, retiring, meek, and people think he is unwilling to fight. Tevye shouts at him and he retreats... ...but then he roars back at Tevye that even a poor tailor can be given some happiness (just like a poor milkman)...and then follows it up with a very strong promise. Tevye wants his daughter to be cared for. That's why he arranged the marriage with Lazar Wolf. He wants to make sure she won't starve. Motel promises that she won't. Note, he doesn't say that he won't...he promises that SHE won't starve. And finally, Tevye recognizes him as a man. Willing to fight for his family and sacrifice for them. A worthy match for Tzeitel.
The fact that she had to beg him is what gets me. Because how many women from that time period begged their fathers for a bit of autonomy over their own lives and never got it?
It's the paradox of parenthood. Making your children happy while also maintaining your authority, not necessarily for the sake of power but for the sake of keeping them on the straight and narrow.
Off topic, but I've always loved Tevye's shirt during this part of the movie. Looks so comfortable. I'd like a shirt made out of that material. Heavy flax linen probably.
For some reason, one of the lines from Motel in this brilliant scene that always make me melt is "But first, I wanted to save up enough for my own sewing machine" - that's so sweet somehow, so innocently grounded in being "the honest hard worker" that Tevye calls him later, wanting nothing more than to be able to be the breadwinner and provide for the love of his life!
This scene has stuck with me since I was a little girl. My Dad never had anything to do with who I chose as partners but we had enormous fights about my being bi. He was an Atheist which helped, but we come from a place which is even now very homophobic, transphobic, racist etc. I spent my teen years through the 90's having endless rows in trying to show him why his views were harmful, and exposing him to my different friends from across the world. I always felt a connection to the daughter trying to get her Dad to understand that change doesn't have to be a bad thing. I was lucky, my Dad did learn from meeting a much wider group of people. Like They've he was never malicious, just unthinking. Just hadn't had the chance to learn that his views were hurting real people that he cared for. It's one of the great lessons of the film, that life is endless change, that tradition must always be examined and changed if it no longer fits the purposes of individuals and communities. As heartbreaking as much of the film is, and the awful way many of the characters would die in the end, it's an ultimately hopeful film. It shows we can all change and learn, if we decide to.
@@paulinotou well they've most likely would have very old by the Time of the Nazi Invasion of Poland on September 1st,1939 they probably would have escaped with their children and grandchildren
- Tzeitel screaming "Don't force me, Papa, please!" is just heartwreching - Tevye's obvious love for his daughters is beautiful - The way Motel comes running in. I can imagine him waking up to the news that Reb Tevye's daughter Tzeitel is engaged to Lazar Wolf, and his face filling with horror and shock, and him just taking off instantly, desperate to stop it - Motel being awkward and shy, but so full of love ("a perfect fit, like a glove") - "THAT'S TRUE, REB TEVYE, BUT EVEN A POOR TAILOR IS ENTITLED TO SOME HAPPINESS!" (and Tzeitel's face as she hears him speak her words) - but on the other hand - The way he shouts "tradition" again, but it sounds empty this time. Tradition is nothing without family - Tzeitel and Motel just running off, hand in hand, laughing with indescribable joy - "GOLDE! WHAT AM I GOING TO TELL GOLDE?"
he screams "TRADITION" in hopes that tradition will give him some reason other than "because that's how we've always done it", but tradition because tradition is not a good enough reason to do something. so the last shout of "TRADITION!" could be seen as the dying gasp of a tradition that outlived its usefulness.
Motel getting pulled out of his comfort zone inch by excruciating inch as he finally stands up to Tevye to ask for Tzeitel's hand. Powerful stuff - love conquers all!
I always have a strong affinity for Tevye.... He always plays that line between what he thinks is right, the happiness of his family and continuing to believe in God despite the fact that his faith and his way of life are the primary reasons he has so many struggles to deal with in his life. Sometimes it is so hard to be good and be happy. I love his philosophising as he pushes the cart around town... like me in the car on the way to work stuck in traffic! A great film.
I think the point of the movie is with each younger daughter, they progressively get less traditional. The oldest marries a orthodox Jew and only really breaks tradition in terms of the marriage arrangement. The Second daughter marries a Jew but a very liberal one who opposes many traditions that aren't in Jewish doctrine. The 3rd one straight up doesn't even marry a Jew. Can only imagine the 2 youngest daughters.
@@kbye2321 Shpritza actually kills herself (by drowning herself in a lake) due to the boy she likes/loves leaves her and changes his agreement to marry her. Bielke married a newly rich jewish boy, but he was a jerk, she agrees to marry him in order for Tevye to retire and for him to be taken care of. Bielke married for love for her famoly not love for a man
I absolutely love the camera work in this scene. Moving from Tevye's reality to his inner thoughts using distance and blurring. His struggle between his love for his family and his devotion to God and tradition, attempting to decide which is more important.
What is overlooked is HE IS A TAILOR ! Before WW1 and in the end of the movie where do they go? New York City !!! Imagine how RICH this young man will become!!!! Tevye has NO IDEA what blessings await him
March, 2019 A 62 year old man...and i cried. What an amazing film, so rich in touching on what it means to be Jewish. The Culture and history...unmatched .
for pokergalpoker - B. Streisand is one homely woman (even at the height of her career). I really can't understand why so many people think she is attractive.
I’d like to think that this movie talks about how the people of Anatevka’s traditions, not necessarily their faith, may have been well intentioned, but perhaps misguided. Like the issue of men dancing with women at Motel and Tzeitel’s wedding reception. They believed it was a sin until Perchik challenged it and said it wasn’t. Even the rabbi confirmed it wasn’t. They had just done things that way for so long that they didn’t even know why they did it. They just assumed it was a sin.
I don't think the movie means to say that there is no value in traditions, but that in the larger, more godly view of the world, traditions mean nothing without family. So Tevye was ultimately wrong. It isn't tradition that allows them to keep their footing. It's family. For family is the root of all worthwhile traditions.
@@yonatanbeer3475 The Orthodox Jews believe in 'tradition' over Father's Ways and Commandments, by following what their rabbis, the Pharisees and Sadducees of old, the Sanhedrin state to be the way to follow... 'tradition'. Man-made laws over Father's. That's what the whole problem is. After the Messiah came, in 27 AD, it was permissible for Jewish people to marry outside of their people. Father's edict not to marry outside of the 12 tribes of the Houses of Judah and Israel had a purpose. It was to keep the genetic lineage from Shem, to Abraham, to David, to Jesus, pure, free of DNA corruption. If you do not know who the Raphaim were, in the Word, and today, many Orthodox Jews do NOT know what these beings were... Genesis 6:1-6 and Jude 1:6 tells us what they were... the offspring of the fallen angels and the daughters of man, which began with Naamath, the sister of Tubal, Tubal-Cain, and Jubal, in Genesis 4:19-22 (notice how the Torah stops there at their generation and doesn't go any further with Cain's descendants... for a reason), as Naamath was given to the fallen angels as the first human wife of the fallen angels... the first to have sexual relations with them and have children. These are the descendants of the fallen angels that formed the tribes of people in the Promised Land that the Israelites had to kill off before entering it, on Father's orders... the entire reason why they ended up having to stay for 40 years in the wilderness, until those that were there and refused to enter the Promised Land out of fear, not trusting Father to lead the way to set these tribes up to be killed off by the Israelites, had died off, and the new generations were more trusting of Father's Ways. After Yeshua came, the need for keeping the lineage pure and clean from the fallen ones' corruption was no longer needed. For if your people had married outside of the 12 tribes, you would have brought in the DNA corruption, and then Yeshua would have no longer been the One that Father would have accepted as a sacrifice to redeem us all, to reconcile us back to Father as it was when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden. This is why Yeshua called the Sanhedrin of His day, the synagogue of Satan, because they were following Satan's ways, over Father's ways. When you understand the context, the reasons why Father commanded the things He did, and learn to be obedient to Him, then it makes complete sense. Today, many do not know the context of the why these things happened. That's why Father says, 'My people are dying for lack of knowledge.' in Hosea 4:6. Today, they're stuck in tradition that is man-made, rather than HIS ways, and they will die as a result of not knowing the Truth.
@@Pfisiar22 I like your point. Also, I wasn’t trying to say there was no value in traditions. I was trying to make the point of blindly following them without even knowing why you do them. But I wholeheartedly agree on the importance of family since I was raised that way.
"Papa don't force me please!" Imagine what kind of father wouldn't shatter into tiny little pieces after that.. I'd break down and cry together with her
To be honest, Teveye would only have been about 45ish anyway. GOlde mentions they've been married 25 years and saying they got married about 20-21ish. Yeah.
A beautiful scene and an extraordinary match. Their pledge to each other made them nearly married in spirit. Lifelong friends they were the closest to soulmates of all the matches. An upstanding hard worker Motel wanted to own his own sewing machine before asking for Tseitel's hand and promises in a land and time where starvation was plausible for the poor that Tevye's daughter no matter what else happened - would not starve.
"Thats true Reb Tevye but even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness!" Tevye: "surprised pikachu face" It clearly took a lot to push Motel to yell and the fact that he yelled out over wanting Tzietel was proof that he would care for her better than Lazar Wolf ever could.
It's touchs me like crazy with Tzeitels scream and then when she and Motel run away laughing soo happy I can only imagine how that roller coaster of emotions was in such a short time
I love this man's rich voice!! So Much expression in his singing!! I can feel the desperation of each character!!...I find myself holding my breath while I'm listening to this!!
@@luckyvet It's not entirely false, but people don't get the fact that even though they had less rights than men, they still could be strong willed and archive stuff in their lives.
BigBadSeed it does sound odd now , but to be fair Motel is repeating Tzeitel's words so it's less that he's entitled to her and more that she wants him.
I love Tevye.. so passionate, flying off the handle, but so much wisdom and consideration under neath everything. And, of course, there’s always Golde 😂🙌🏻
The promise "she will not starve" cuts deep. The desperation, attempting to convey to your father in law what she means to you and how you want to take care of her.
I think he was both right and wrong. Traditions like obey your parents, respect your elders, etc. keep people in line and develop their characters but if you don't know the significance of those traditions, you'll just be going through the motions of life and you'll be miserable deep down because you're living without purpose. In addition (btw I'm American, so this is just my opinion), having someone arrange a marriage for you is bad because that person will mostly think about what benefits them and not the bride or groom, and if the bride and groom don't know/or love each other, the marriage will be more like a business contract than a loving relationship.
What is likeable about the old Milkman is that he's always getting from one scrape into 2 or 3 more and has to figure a way out every time, and does. Mad Skillz.
Tevye has great intentions for his daughters ( except the last one). They are poor and times are tough. He wants them to be with someone that will put food on the table
Even with Chava his intentions and love were undeniable, he had just been pushed beyond what he could accept at a time of great strife in his life (and understandably so considering she had just married into the same group of people oppressing her family). His final acknowledgment of "God be with you" to her was proof he still had great love for her though.
I love it when he says “ where do you think you are, America”? My Grandmother was one of 10 Brothers and Sisters who emigrated to America in 1907. Not only did they have to marry Jews, but Hungarian Jews. I don’t know how my Great Grandfather managed do it, but he did.
One of my fave films from childhood! When all my friends watched cartoons etc My parents introduced us to lots of the old classics. ...I still cry/laugh/sing all the way through!
This is a major scene for one of the most important characters in Fiddler on the Roof, a "character" that wears no costume and utters no audible lines: God. We only hear Tevye's side of their dialogues. Rather like Bob Newhart's telephone routines, we are challenged to infer the unseen character's unheard lines based on the one side of the conversation we do hear. Each of us must draw our own conclusions as to whether Tevye is responding to what that other character is really saying to him. Of course, for a viewer who is certain that there is no God, the answer is very easy, but for the rest of us, the complexity of that question is what gives this musical its timeless power. It may be that no two of us hear God's lines the same way.
@@SteamPoweredSmurfette not true. Schizophrenia as a diagnosis for any voice one hears inside is completely ignorant of the entire spiritual realm. Only a total fool would indiscriminately call any voice one hears inaudibly schizophrenia and you are one such fool, completely ignorant fool.
There's a lot of bravery and desperation at play here. Tzeitel for standing up to her father and expressing fully how she feels, instead of meekly accepting her circumstances. Motel for having the courage to come to their home after hearing about the match with Lazar, knowing that it might now be impossible to convince Tevye, but he tried anyway. I'm not sure I would've had the courage of Motel in this situation.
As youngster, this was the movie that brought home to me that sons and daughters are not property. My parents were horrified the choice had been taken out of their hands.
The dilemma that Tevye faces, the weighing of both the sides of the dilemma. Maintain the status quo vs. jump to the scary but growth oriented side🤔! Superbly depicted by Topol. And finally, take risk to join the growth path🤗.
"They gave each other a pledge" is both the source of Tevye's anger and the reason for his acceptance. He value's a person's word. If he upholds his pledge to the butcher, it breaks the word of his daughter, and that is something he cannot abide. He will sacrifice his principles for those of his daughters. Tevye is a good man.
Coda Mission love this ❤️
Coda Mission The only main thing he couldn’t sacrifice was his faith and Chava sadly crossed that boundary.
thatoneguy true. It brought him so much pain to disown his daughter. Comprise his faith ? That was a tough no-no
He has to say no at some point. Actually,you know what? Not true. He does say no to Chava.
Barbie Alexander he said no twice. But it bend his faith m. It bend tradition. Agreed
"I think I can help."
"Certainly. Like a bandage can help a corpse. Goodbye." Tevye has the best lines XD
"I won't be sorry? I'M SORRY ALREADY!"
A cold. Not a corpse.
@@sheilas1283 its definitely "corpse" lol.
@@sheilas1283 No, it's corpse. I got the book script from Amazon in the spring of 2000, and it says "corpse". Also, for years, my mom and I thought he said "cough", not "cold" or "corpse".
"You have a tongue. Talk"
Hodel: THATSWHATIVEBEENTRYINGTODOALREADY
I love that the ultimate promise is "Your daughter won't starve!"
That was a really big deal for these people in that time and place.
@@amyfisher6380 its also a big deal today. Us girls when we're hangry is no joke. None at all.
To me, its the greatest line Motel says in the film.
Before this he is shy, retiring, meek, and people think he is unwilling to fight.
Tevye shouts at him and he retreats...
...but then he roars back at Tevye that even a poor tailor can be given some happiness (just like a poor milkman)...and then follows it up with a very strong promise.
Tevye wants his daughter to be cared for. That's why he arranged the marriage with Lazar Wolf. He wants to make sure she won't starve.
Motel promises that she won't. Note, he doesn't say that he won't...he promises that SHE won't starve.
And finally, Tevye recognizes him as a man. Willing to fight for his family and sacrifice for them. A worthy match for Tzeitel.
Wow
Too bad she did starve in the book…
"But even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness!"
Damn...
Tzeitel had the right of it, that was a hell of a line
I know this movie and one punch man;)
Look at her face after that... she never wanted him more
Motel was never going to let Zeitel go without a fight - he stood his ground because he loved her. L'chaim!!
Tzeitel was the one who said it originally to him so it must mean even more for her that he is using her strength as his own 🥺🥺😭😭
It's always killed me when Tzeitel screams "Papa, don't force me!" The actress really gets the despair; it's such a cry from the heart.
And you already knew he was going to break.
Why does it?
I've done this before to my father because of a desperate situation. And boy, was it a painful thing.
I always cry when I see this scene!
The fact that she had to beg him is what gets me. Because how many women from that time period begged their fathers for a bit of autonomy over their own lives and never got it?
I love Tzeitel's face when Motel finally speaks out loudly.
Oh wow. Thanks.
"He's starting to talk like a man!"
Tevye: "Golde, what shall I tell Golde?"
God: Thou art on thine own.
LOL 😂
Made my day
XD
makes a bullshit story of a dream of ghosts and shit
Sure.
I love how tevye seems so angry but he’s such a push over
What's a pushover for him? He's a father,
@@barbiealexander2744 A lot of fathers aren't as kind and hardworking. Some abandon, ignore, molest or torment their children.
He is easily the most lovable character in the play because of it.
It's the paradox of parenthood. Making your children happy while also maintaining your authority, not necessarily for the sake of power but for the sake of keeping them on the straight and narrow.
When you arrive at his age, you realize there are worse reasons to bend your principles than "it will make my daughter happy"
"On the other hand, he has nothing! On the Other hand, Things can only get better!"
Tevye: "On the other hand, I could on saying "on the other hand" forever. On the other hand, the producer told me that move is only two hours long."
Off topic, but I've always loved Tevye's shirt during this part of the movie. Looks so comfortable. I'd like a shirt made out of that material. Heavy flax linen probably.
AMEN (SPITS ON FLOOR)
Such an optimist
@@kgpspyguy as someone who wore those many times, it's the opposite of comfortable, unless you like feeling scratchy all over
For some reason, one of the lines from Motel in this brilliant scene that always make me melt is "But first, I wanted to save up enough for my own sewing machine" - that's so sweet somehow, so innocently grounded in being "the honest hard worker" that Tevye calls him later, wanting nothing more than to be able to be the breadwinner and provide for the love of his life!
You're telling me. I'm the girl of musical movies. Including this one.
This scene has stuck with me since I was a little girl. My Dad never had anything to do with who I chose as partners but we had enormous fights about my being bi. He was an Atheist which helped, but we come from a place which is even now very homophobic, transphobic, racist etc. I spent my teen years through the 90's having endless rows in trying to show him why his views were harmful, and exposing him to my different friends from across the world.
I always felt a connection to the daughter trying to get her Dad to understand that change doesn't have to be a bad thing. I was lucky, my Dad did learn from meeting a much wider group of people. Like They've he was never malicious, just unthinking. Just hadn't had the chance to learn that his views were hurting real people that he cared for.
It's one of the great lessons of the film, that life is endless change, that tradition must always be examined and changed if it no longer fits the purposes of individuals and communities. As heartbreaking as much of the film is, and the awful way many of the characters would die in the end, it's an ultimately hopeful film. It shows we can all change and learn, if we decide to.
When he finally does get a machine he says "From now on all my clothes will be machine made. No more hand made clothes from me." Always makes me laugh
"It seems you were not ordained to have all the comforts of life" - That cracks me up every time. We all know Tevye's weakness.
Also known as the things he hasn't been able to provide her
"I PROMISE YOU, REB TEVYE, YOUR DAUGHTER WILL NOT STARVE!" *swoon*
And then WWI,2revolutions and a civil war happen
@@user-my4lf4bx6v They go to Krakow. Poland was not the place to be a Jew in WW2. They should've went to America with the Tevye and Golde.
@@paulinotou well they've most likely would have very old by the Time of the Nazi Invasion of Poland on September 1st,1939 they probably would have escaped with their children and grandchildren
- Tzeitel screaming "Don't force me, Papa, please!" is just heartwreching
- Tevye's obvious love for his daughters is beautiful
- The way Motel comes running in. I can imagine him waking up to the news that Reb Tevye's daughter Tzeitel is engaged to Lazar Wolf, and his face filling with horror and shock, and him just taking off instantly, desperate to stop it
- Motel being awkward and shy, but so full of love ("a perfect fit, like a glove")
- "THAT'S TRUE, REB TEVYE, BUT EVEN A POOR TAILOR IS ENTITLED TO SOME HAPPINESS!" (and Tzeitel's face as she hears him speak her words)
- but on the other hand
- The way he shouts "tradition" again, but it sounds empty this time. Tradition is nothing without family
- Tzeitel and Motel just running off, hand in hand, laughing with indescribable joy
- "GOLDE! WHAT AM I GOING TO TELL GOLDE?"
The "tradition is nothing without family" is so powerful it feels like a punch to the face, im so stealing that
“Help!”
he screams "TRADITION" in hopes that tradition will give him some reason other than "because that's how we've always done it", but tradition because tradition is not a good enough reason to do something. so the last shout of "TRADITION!" could be seen as the dying gasp of a tradition that outlived its usefulness.
"Either you're out of your mind, or you're crazy!"
I loved that line, ever since I was a little kid and first saw this movie.
I love it also.
Fortunately Tevye decides he's just crazy.
It's brilliant isn't it! I only really noticed it this time about #1547th time of watching!!
That is a great line. I should start using it.
"On the other hand...on the other hand...on the other hand...." Tevye's way of listing pros and cons.
This is Talmudic reasoning. Examine a problem from all conceivable angles, then come up with the best solution.
Or good or bad.
Now I have to wonder if I started doing that after I saw this movie or if it is just a coincidence
There is no other hand!
how many hands does he have?
Motel getting pulled out of his comfort zone inch by excruciating inch as he finally stands up to Tevye to ask for Tzeitel's hand. Powerful stuff - love conquers all!
except religion
Well, Motel respects Tevye like most people do. And the man can be a bit intimidating.
Especially to an utter milksop like Motel. In contrast Perchik is the polar opposite of him...even though he is a Commie.
What I really about this seen is when Motel spoke up and stood his ground to him, you can see new found respect for him.
Yeah,totally.
"Even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness..." That´s the spirit, Motel.
Motel is so adorkable it's so sweet😂
The song he sings after this scene is so cute.
He's like a puppy.
I love the look he gives to the heavens as the two leave, he's like "You're killing me, Lord."
I've never watched her yell "Papa, don't force me, please!" and not welled up with tears. The actors in this film are extraordinary.
I love how he talks to God in this movie, awesome.
As a daughter, this father's love gets me every single time.
As a daughter what do you think about Tevye and Chava?
Tevye has so many hands.
I always have a strong affinity for Tevye....
He always plays that line between what he thinks is right, the happiness of his family and continuing to believe in God despite the fact that his faith and his way of life are the primary reasons he has so many struggles to deal with in his life.
Sometimes it is so hard to be good and be happy.
I love his philosophising as he pushes the cart around town... like me in the car on the way to work stuck in traffic!
A great film.
Motel: "Reb Tevya, you won't be sorry! You won't be sorry!"
Tevya: "I won't be sorry? I'm sorry already!" 😆😆😆
" But look at my daughter's eyes, she loves him." Who hasn't fell in love with Tevye?
He is the best!!
And the perfect voice. Rough, almost too loud at times but loving.
Each daughter represents a traditional value. Tzeidel is the one closely rooted to older roots.
You're not wrong.
I think the point of the movie is with each younger daughter, they progressively get less traditional. The oldest marries a orthodox Jew and only really breaks tradition in terms of the marriage arrangement. The Second daughter marries a Jew but a very liberal one who opposes many traditions that aren't in Jewish doctrine. The 3rd one straight up doesn't even marry a Jew. Can only imagine the 2 youngest daughters.
@@kbye2321 at least an atheist would have been better than....*cough* those that drove them out of their land here
@@kbye2321 Shpritza actually kills herself (by drowning herself in a lake) due to the boy she likes/loves leaves her and changes his agreement to marry her. Bielke married a newly rich jewish boy, but he was a jerk, she agrees to marry him in order for Tevye to retire and for him to be taken care of. Bielke married for love for her famoly not love for a man
@@user-vt7tn2mu9o How do you know?
Motel: That's true Reb Tevye, but even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness!
Tzietel: *Sploosh*
I won't be sorry? I'M SORRY ALREADY!!!
Me NotYou Jewish humor at its finest.
Matthew Smith Amen, and I'm a Messianic Jews myself.
Isn't that basically a kosher Christian?
He should be.
@@TriaMaxwell Pretty much.
"A perfect fit. Like a glove." Given Motel is a tailor that's some darn good writing.
Also in the song matchmaker. Love the writing.
“Ring me no ring
Groom me no groom
Find me no find
Catch me no catch
Unless he’s a matchless match”
Lol ye
If "darn good writing" was a pun, then my hat's off to you!
"Certainly like a bandage can help a corpse; goodbye Motel goodbye."
Yeah. What about it?
spasjt A cold. Not a corpse.
Motel running in always makes me laugh.
Sure it does.
I absolutely love the camera work in this scene. Moving from Tevye's reality to his inner thoughts using distance and blurring. His struggle between his love for his family and his devotion to God and tradition, attempting to decide which is more important.
Yes, that is an ingenious way to show Tevye's inner musings at that specific time.
"Oh, he is beginning to talk like a man"
Caitlin Van Wie "on the other hand, what kind of a match would that be? A poor tailor."
"On the other hand, things cannot get worse, they can only get better"
LOVE
They say the lights are always bright on Broadway
"they all say"
So is the world.
That is confidence right there
What is overlooked is HE IS A TAILOR ! Before WW1 and in the end of the movie where do they go? New York City !!! Imagine how RICH this young man will become!!!! Tevye has NO IDEA what blessings await him
I PROMISE YOU REB TEVYE YOUR DAUGHTER WILL NOT STARVE! Love this line :)
'you won't be sorry'...' I won't be sorry? I'M SORRY ALREADY' haha
Motel later proofs himself.
You're right,
March, 2019
A 62 year old man...and i cried. What an amazing film, so rich in touching on what it means to be Jewish. The Culture and history...unmatched .
MARRIAGES HAVE TO BE ARRANGED....BY THE PAPAAAAAAAA!
missrosito It was arranged by God, the ultimate papa
TRADITION!
@@warriorsiren2201 "Did Adam and Eve have a matchmaker? Yes, they did. And it seems these two have the same matchmaker."
"He also has ears" lmao Tevye has been my idol since I was a kid...
Tzeitel looks like a young Streisand!!!!
pokergalpoker it is
i thought the same thing & googled it a few days ago Valentina, do you have a link by chance? I can't find proof
no it isn't Rosalind Harris played Tzeitel
pokergalpoker never thought about that
for pokergalpoker - B. Streisand is one homely woman (even at the height of her career). I really can't understand why so many people think she is attractive.
I love how he puts his arm around her and Tevye gives him a double take.
Tzietel was even more shocked.... Or she just went "Sploosh"
Every bit of acting is incredibly superb that you forget it's a film.
I’d like to think that this movie talks about how the people of Anatevka’s traditions, not necessarily their faith, may have been well intentioned, but perhaps misguided.
Like the issue of men dancing with women at Motel and Tzeitel’s wedding reception. They believed it was a sin until Perchik challenged it and said it wasn’t. Even the rabbi confirmed it wasn’t. They had just done things that way for so long that they didn’t even know why they did it. They just assumed it was a sin.
I don't think the movie means to say that there is no value in traditions, but that in the larger, more godly view of the world, traditions mean nothing without family. So Tevye was ultimately wrong. It isn't tradition that allows them to keep their footing. It's family. For family is the root of all worthwhile traditions.
Note his shout is "Tradition!" not "Religion!"
@@Pfisiar22 I may be biased as an Orthodox Jew, but Tevye only disallowed his daughter to marry a non-jew, which is not even the slightest bit wrong.
@@yonatanbeer3475 The Orthodox Jews believe in 'tradition' over Father's Ways and Commandments, by following what their rabbis, the Pharisees and Sadducees of old, the Sanhedrin state to be the way to follow... 'tradition'. Man-made laws over Father's. That's what the whole problem is. After the Messiah came, in 27 AD, it was permissible for Jewish people to marry outside of their people. Father's edict not to marry outside of the 12 tribes of the Houses of Judah and Israel had a purpose. It was to keep the genetic lineage from Shem, to Abraham, to David, to Jesus, pure, free of DNA corruption. If you do not know who the Raphaim were, in the Word, and today, many Orthodox Jews do NOT know what these beings were... Genesis 6:1-6 and Jude 1:6 tells us what they were... the offspring of the fallen angels and the daughters of man, which began with Naamath, the sister of Tubal, Tubal-Cain, and Jubal, in Genesis 4:19-22 (notice how the Torah stops there at their generation and doesn't go any further with Cain's descendants... for a reason), as Naamath was given to the fallen angels as the first human wife of the fallen angels... the first to have sexual relations with them and have children. These are the descendants of the fallen angels that formed the tribes of people in the Promised Land that the Israelites had to kill off before entering it, on Father's orders... the entire reason why they ended up having to stay for 40 years in the wilderness, until those that were there and refused to enter the Promised Land out of fear, not trusting Father to lead the way to set these tribes up to be killed off by the Israelites, had died off, and the new generations were more trusting of Father's Ways. After Yeshua came, the need for keeping the lineage pure and clean from the fallen ones' corruption was no longer needed. For if your people had married outside of the 12 tribes, you would have brought in the DNA corruption, and then Yeshua would have no longer been the One that Father would have accepted as a sacrifice to redeem us all, to reconcile us back to Father as it was when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden. This is why Yeshua called the Sanhedrin of His day, the synagogue of Satan, because they were following Satan's ways, over Father's ways.
When you understand the context, the reasons why Father commanded the things He did, and learn to be obedient to Him, then it makes complete sense. Today, many do not know the context of the why these things happened. That's why Father says, 'My people are dying for lack of knowledge.' in Hosea 4:6. Today, they're stuck in tradition that is man-made, rather than HIS ways, and they will die as a result of not knowing the Truth.
@@Pfisiar22 I like your point. Also, I wasn’t trying to say there was no value in traditions. I was trying to make the point of blindly following them without even knowing why you do them.
But I wholeheartedly agree on the importance of family since I was raised that way.
"Papa don't force me please!"
Imagine what kind of father wouldn't shatter into tiny little pieces after that.. I'd break down and cry together with her
RIP Chaim Topol, you will be greatly missed. He was only 39 when he played Tevye, but he was so believable as an older man. Love him💕
To be honest, Teveye would only have been about 45ish anyway. GOlde mentions they've been married 25 years and saying they got married about 20-21ish. Yeah.
Tevye: WHO IS IT?
Motel: *almost faints*
One of the best films of all times! A great story with a very fine cast. Topol is superb..
So's Neva Small.
Where do they think they are? AMERICA??
They kind of are.
I love that part. So true lol
I’m sorry, I thought this was Ukraine!
@@barbiealexander2744 where exactly?
@@dainn0668 According to the story they're living in a tiny village called Anatevka in the Ukraine. I assume that that's a mythical village.
A beautiful scene and an extraordinary match. Their pledge to each other made them nearly married in spirit. Lifelong friends they were the closest to soulmates of all the matches. An upstanding hard worker Motel wanted to own his own sewing machine before asking for Tseitel's hand and promises in a land and time where starvation was plausible for the poor that Tevye's daughter no matter what else happened - would not starve.
I love this scene. It displays so much about Tevye. Things like this are why I love his character so much.
I love how shocked/happy Tzeitel looks after Motel's out burst XD
Tevye, *Chaim Topol* nailed all the scenes. 😄 this movie will always be a classic.
The facial expressions are the best
"Thats true Reb Tevye but even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness!"
Tevye: "surprised pikachu face"
It clearly took a lot to push Motel to yell and the fact that he yelled out over wanting Tzietel was proof that he would care for her better than Lazar Wolf ever could.
Tevye has a lot of hands. 5:32
“Even a poor tailor deserves some happiness” damn that line gets me every time.
No dislikes? Unheard of, absurd! No dislikes? Unthinkable! Although I am glad there are no dislikes.
LITCtophat Too bad, 7 dislikes either came from Laserwolf or his late wife Fruma Sarah.
And now there are nine
72 now... Monsters
74 now....😕
This movie is impossible to dislike!
It's touchs me like crazy with Tzeitels scream and then when she and Motel run away laughing soo happy I can only imagine how that roller coaster of emotions was in such a short time
And even a poor man / papa wants his daughter to be truly happy THAT says the most about him
I love this man's rich voice!! So Much expression in his singing!!
I can feel the desperation of each character!!...I find myself holding my breath while I'm listening to this!!
He had such a rich baritone! I know a lot of cantors are tenors, but he would've made a hell of a cantor!!
He's such an amazing fictional character--but who knows--there may be a real life model from long ago!! Full of such life! Humor! Wisdom!
This is the peak of movie-making. There are a few movies its equal, but none better.
Sound of Music
I read the title as "They gave each other a Plague". Lmao
He may be poor, but they'll Motel through somehow.
Get out.
its so wonderful and life affirming---people surviving/thriving in spite of what's thrown at them with their faith and humor!
My favorite part is oh shit the wife!
In alleged false historical oppression of women, they certainly ran the household with an iron fist - and they did a damn good job at it!
@@luckyvet It's not entirely false, but people don't get the fact that even though they had less rights than men, they still could be strong willed and archive stuff in their lives.
@@luckyvet women definitely were oppressed, you didn’t think that that Tevye didn’t beat his Golde?
Better to be poor and happy on your own than rich and sad through an arrangement
The best musical ever made, in my opinion.
I love how Tevye doesn't even move his arm when Motel furiously shakes his hand. LOL
"Even a poor tailor is entitled to some happiness."
"entitled"
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Well, they certainly don't think they're in America.
BigBadSeed it does sound odd now , but to be fair Motel is repeating Tzeitel's words so it's less that he's entitled to her and more that she wants him.
My mum showed this as a child loved it ever since
That last “...Papa” before he leaves like he can’t believe it I love him
Motel is such a sweetheart. *snuggles* Girls, who else out there wants a guy like Motel?
Meee - he's the walking definition of adorkable!!!
@@marikesl I know!!!!
The raw emotion of a daughter can move a father's love for her.
I love Tevye.. so passionate, flying off the handle, but so much wisdom and consideration under neath everything.
And, of course, there’s always Golde 😂🙌🏻
I love this scene - He has a true Father’s heart of love.
The promise "she will not starve" cuts deep. The desperation, attempting to convey to your father in law what she means to you and how you want to take care of her.
I always thought Tevye was wrong about tradition. Now that I'm older I realize he was right.
I think he was both right and wrong. Traditions like obey your parents, respect your elders, etc. keep people in line and develop their characters but if you don't know the significance of those traditions, you'll just be going through the motions of life and you'll be miserable deep down because you're living without purpose. In addition (btw I'm American, so this is just my opinion), having someone arrange a marriage for you is bad because that person will mostly think about what benefits them and not the bride or groom, and if the bride and groom don't know/or love each other, the marriage will be more like a business contract than a loving relationship.
5:01 - 5:06 always gives me goosebumps! I love his confidence and boldness!!
What is likeable about the old Milkman is that he's always getting from one scrape into 2 or 3 more and has to figure a way out every time, and does. Mad Skillz.
Tevye has great intentions for his daughters ( except the last one). They are poor and times are tough. He wants them to be with someone that will put food on the table
Even with Chava his intentions and love were undeniable, he had just been pushed beyond what he could accept at a time of great strife in his life (and understandably so considering she had just married into the same group of people oppressing her family). His final acknowledgment of "God be with you" to her was proof he still had great love for her though.
Boccs oh yeah. He will always love her. Not her decision but loves her unconditional
I love it when he says “ where do you think you are, America”? My Grandmother was one of 10 Brothers and Sisters who emigrated to America in 1907. Not only did they have to marry Jews, but Hungarian Jews. I don’t know how my Great Grandfather managed do it, but he did.
My second favorite movie if all time…right after the Quiet Man!!! The best Irish movie ever made!!!!
Poor Tevye...He's hungover as Hell during all of this. :D
I play Tevye in my production at my school and i love this scene! The guy who plays Motel is too afraid to scream at me. Haha.
I bet you'll have a lot of fun with her Yente impression XD
It makes "Matchmaker" so much more amusing
6:53 I won't be Sorry?? I'm sorry already 😂😂
"Either you're out of your mind or you're crazy" I don't like those choices.
5:48 He has absolutely nothing.. On the other hand things could never get worse for him...they could only get better #BeautifullySaid
A papa who only wants his daughter to be fed. Reb Tevye is a great man.
I love his look when Motel calls him papa
you have good eyes, Reb Tevye, that you are able to see her eyes from so far away xD
One of my fave films from childhood! When all my friends watched cartoons etc My parents introduced us to lots of the old classics. ...I still cry/laugh/sing all the way through!
This is a major scene for one of the most important characters in Fiddler on the Roof, a "character" that wears no costume and utters no audible lines: God. We only hear Tevye's side of their dialogues. Rather like Bob Newhart's telephone routines, we are challenged to infer the unseen character's unheard lines based on the one side of the conversation we do hear. Each of us must draw our own conclusions as to whether Tevye is responding to what that other character is really saying to him. Of course, for a viewer who is certain that there is no God, the answer is very easy, but for the rest of us, the complexity of that question is what gives this musical its timeless power. It may be that no two of us hear God's lines the same way.
He talks with me I know His voice.
@@artbyrobot1 my dude, that's called schizophrenia
@@SteamPoweredSmurfette not true. Schizophrenia as a diagnosis for any voice one hears inside is completely ignorant of the entire spiritual realm. Only a total fool would indiscriminately call any voice one hears inaudibly schizophrenia and you are one such fool, completely ignorant fool.
@@artbyrobot1 takes one to know one kiddo 😂
@@SteamPoweredSmurfette nope I schooled you obviously ask anyone
He nearly shook Tevye's arm outta its sockett!
There's a lot of bravery and desperation at play here. Tzeitel for standing up to her father and expressing fully how she feels, instead of meekly accepting her circumstances. Motel for having the courage to come to their home after hearing about the match with Lazar, knowing that it might now be impossible to convince Tevye, but he tried anyway. I'm not sure I would've had the courage of Motel in this situation.
As youngster, this was the movie that brought home to me that sons and daughters are not property. My parents were horrified the choice had been taken out of their hands.
The dilemma that Tevye faces, the weighing of both the sides of the dilemma. Maintain the status quo vs. jump to the scary but growth oriented side🤔! Superbly depicted by Topol. And finally, take risk to join the growth path🤗.