His pointing when saying that is what really kills me. He’s like, “listen you sly omnipotent dog, I see what you’re doing here. And I don’t like it, but who am I to argue with you?”
Not trying to be silly but I am a diagnosed schizophrenic Jewish man and I have had out of body experiences where I talked to HaShem (G-d). It was delusions but in the moment it felt like time was in slow motion.
I kinda feel sorry for reb Tevye because ultimately he's just a respected guy in the village trying to scratch out a humble, honest existence yet he finds himself at the centre of monumental social change!
The only thing that brought comfort to Tevye was that Motel and Perchik were Jewish. They asked him directly for Tzietel's(Motel) and Hodel's(Perchik) hand in marriage. However, Tevye had a hard time accepting Fyedka when he asked for Chavaleh's hand in marriage due to him not being Jewish and leading to her to marry him. Yet when the Jews were being expelled from Russia, he decided to go into exile with her, her family and the others rather than put up with how cruel his government are to them. While Tevye still had a hard time accepting Chava's marriage to Fyedka, he did see how much they love each other. That he was willing to denounce his own people just to support the Jews in exile, which lead to reconciliation.
@@ladyfire44it’s worth pointing out that in the live productions of the show that Fyedka is the Russian officer who leads off in the “L’chaim/To Life” number.
How many times have I seen this movie, and it just now occurred to me that when Tzeitel and Motel ask for Tevye's permission to get married, the characters are in the barnyard (Tevye's home). Then in this above scene, Tevye and Perchik ans Hodel meet on a bridge (indicating faraway places, separation). Then when Chava asks Tevye to accept her and Fyedka, they are in an open, seemingly barren place and there is no one else but the two of them.
Rev Tevye: *facing away from Perchik and Hodel* "TRADITION!!!" Perchik: "You're father's acting strangely." Hodel: "It's normal for him. Just wait and it'll pass."
He is in a paused reality. You can see it happen when he is talking to Lazerwolf about Tzeitel. Everything stops while Tevye thinks. I think it happens in every scene where he says, "On the other hand."
just shows how women were prisoners and will be locked up and forced to marry 62 year old drunk men who would beat them every night and rape them (according to Matchmaker) so it's great that Hodel is marrying Perchek and escaping all that torture and slavery and imprisonment.
my favorite line :) overthrow that woman matchmaker who is getting women and girls abused/raped by 62 year fat old drunk men who beat them every night ... let God handle the matches.
The way Tevye bellows *TRADITIONNNN!* at the end of his monologue has significance. He bellows it mournfully, his voice breaking. It symbolises that some of those traditions are dying.
It is very interesting how the film opens with the song 'Tradition' and then with every 'act' Tevye is forced to break that tradition more and more... First, he allows Tzitel to get married to a man of her choice but Motel is still a safe, acceptable choice. Then Hodel picks a lot less traditional Jew. He's still acceptable due to his religion but a lot less traditional and ideal. Not to mention that she follows him to Siberia while they are not married. No wonder that he can't accept Chava's choice, Fyedka is full-on 'other'. And yet, there is a hint of reconciliation at the end. We can only imagine who the 2 youngest will marry. I would bet that at least one would be an American...
I guess that the youngest daughter will say that she wants to go to a regular school, not just being homeschooled at home or takes a job and becomes some kind of supervisor, managing MEN and says that she can provide for herself she doesnt need a man.
Do you want to know what it says in the original book "Tevye the Dairyman" by Sholom Aleichem? Shprintze, unfortunately, drowns herself after she's rejected by the young man she loves. And Bielke sells her soul by marrying a rich, older, vulgar man she doesn't love, so that her poor father will be provided for.
That's a good observation! I noticed this time that the times of year are different each time too. First summer, then fall, then winter. Tevye is getting colder and colder as the traditions are broken.
Whenever I need to cry my heart out - I watch this. I have seen the film version - goodness knows how many times. I also saw this performance in summer theater with Topol in 1989 in Virginia. I went and stood for 2 hours backstage for Topol to come out so I could shake his hand. His eyes had the same sad look as they did during the play. I know it is foolish to think an actor in real life is similar to the character he portrays. However, I (like to) believe that Topol = Rep Tevye.
I suppose that you're right. It seems to me like he's a Reform Jew. This movie takes place in 1905, just after the Reform Judaism movement begun. Despite being a Torah teacher, he never struck me as being particularly religious.
I only now notice Hodel's expression at 2:44 while looking at her papa's fit. It's so funny for some reason, she's clearly concerned but also with a clear non - bullshit attitude
Nobody is stopping you. It's in the library, I'm sure. You will find that in the original book, there were seven daughters, not five, and the next one meets a very sad fate. I guess they didn't want to put that in the movie. Spoiler alert: Tevye outlives Goldie. It is very sad but funny at the same time, a great book.
It's the fourth dtr, Shprintze, that meets the saddest fate. Her story didn't make it into Fiddler. There are several translations. I use the Hillel Halkin version published by Schocken Press in my university and adult classes. His intro, and his commentary, is better than the others.
I read it too, bought it already. Meanwhile I learn Yiddish language in the jewish adult evening class, it's really interesting. Maybe I can read it in Yiddish one day
I'm gonna have to be that guy to point out that Perchik (and sadly Hodel with him) was most likely dead within 20 years of this story due to the purges of Lenin. Very few of the original communist organizers/leaders, even those in his inner circle, survived Lenin (let alone Stalin who followed him). Leon Trotsky was a Ukrainian of Jewish descent and ended up assassinated via being slashed up by an ice pick in the back in Mexico after Stalin gave his assassin (who served as a errand-goer for Trotsky for a few months) the go-ahead. Among the great ironies of it was the fact that Lenin had some Jewish and some Volga German ancestry in his own background. Ideologies like Marxism make monsters out of men.
The "did Adam and Eve have a matchmaker? Yes, it was God" argument was a REALLY good one! I do find it ironic that it couldnt apply to Chava as well but I understand why she didn't get that benefit of the doubt even if I disagree with the logic.
+JavertRA Really. That's an interesting coincidence, since it's my understanding that Rosalind Harris, who played Tzeitel in this movie, would later play Golde on Broadway, alongside Topol, who plays her father here. Anyway, I wonder how Paul felt hearing his own defiant words get thrown back at him.
PERCHIK: "Perhaps you could tell her I'm going to visit a rich uncle!" TEVYE: "Perchik, please! I CAN HANDLE MY OWN WIFE!" ... TEVYE (to GOLDE): "I hear he has a rich uncle..!" 😂
I dont think or see him as a secular Jew. He dosent break Jewish LAW but TRADITION is another story. Remember he even asked the Rabbi if women and men danceing together was FORBIDDEN by Jewish law AND IT WASNT
You see the total disrespect he feels from Perchik after, “I’m not asking for your permission.” Then comes the total game changer. “I love her.” You see such a change from Tevya. Love is stronger than tradition. As hard as it is for Tevya to acquiesce, he knows it to be true. What a good man. Love makes us strong.
And still - so many families act like this. I'm over 50 - and my Mum is acting like Tevye about my Chinese girlfriend of 12 years. Her name is Judith! ha ha ! and acting like a Yiddisha Momma - we aren't even Jewish - but in my family - TRADITION !
@HEBisreal No no. That's Fyedka and Chava. Perchik is a Jew- a Marxist or some such, but a Jew nevertheless. This is why he's called Reb Perchik, why he covers his head, why he mingles amongst the Jewish community, and why he's allowed to marry and teach them.
TRUE, what needs to be understood is there is a huge differance betwen breakin tradion and breaking Jewish law...ratter women and men dance together is bassed on Jewish tradion NOT Jewish law. Marrying a non Jew is breaking Jewish law
My favorite line is: "whether I like or not, you'll marry him! So what do you want from me? Go on! Be wed! And tear out my beard and uncover my head!" As if to say: "where do we draw the line then? I might as well give everything up!" Psychological splitting at its finest.
"At least with Tzeitel and Motel,they asked me, they begged me? But now if I like it or not,you'll marry him?"Why bother? Perchik is leaving for U.S.A/America anyway.
I too know the feeling. fathers are their little girls best heros and male role models and advisers, until they grow up and are supplanted by another male. if you haven't taught them what they need to know about boys & men by then. you've missed the boat since they won't pay attention after that.
Continuing - my earlier comment. It makes me happy to think Topol might have absorbed some of the characteristics of Rep Tevye. If he did not sincerely believe in the character, his eyes would not be able to convey the pain and hope they do!
@Kassaremidybelllynn I agree. Some things can be changed, and it does not say in the Bible that people are not allowed to arrange their own matches, but it is expressly, totally, unchallengeabely forbidden to marry a non-Jew.
I know it says that, but I disagree with it wholeheartedly. There are people in the Bible who married non-Jews and they weren't considered dead or shunned etc. A few examples I can give are Joseph and he married an Egyptian, Moses and he married a Midianite and Esther a.k.a. Haddassah married a Persian king
I don't know if they portrayed his character as religious - they did portray as being bound to tradition (which is a way of life in which he feels comfortable)!
i love this scene! but i've always wondered, why didn't tevye look into chava's eyes? i know that he was angry at her for marrying a christian and becoming one, but y ddnt he @ LEAST look in her eyes?
I think he did it to disregard her and act as though she was dead when she wasn't. Not all Jews do this nowadays, but unfortunately some still do this if anyone in there family marries a non-Jew. With the Jews are more religious, it's more likely to happen, but with the Jews who are not so religious, it's less likely to happen
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That's the daughter that made the worst decision when it comes to who she'd marry with. This guy was most likely killed or died in prision. She's a jewish girl alone in a place she doesn't know anybody. And even if she comes back home...the town was evacuated. She doesn't know that because her parents were taken by surprise and didn't have time to write her about it, informing where they'd be heading to. All this for a dude that likes politics more than his fiancée. And I like politics! Hahaha
Not necessarily. Back then (1905 - you can tell because you see images of the Russian 1905 uprising in the film), the Czarist government tended to exile political arrestees into the middle of nowhere in Siberia. So basically, Perchik's punishment would be living out in the middle of nowhere - with his wife pretty close by if not living with him. Not the worst possible existence. Plus, fast forward about 9 years, Perchik being in prison would have likely protected him from getting drafted into the Russian Army in WW1. Fast forward another 3 years, and Perchik would likely be one of the new Bolsheviks running the entire country. So you could argue Hodel made a really good decision, though she wouldn't know it for about 12 years.
@@CaribaPhoenix In her mind it was either marry a revolutionary and go to Siberia with a guy she loves, or be forced into a form of slavery where she gets raped and beaten every night by a fat drunk 62 year old man that the matchmaker found for her which made her feel absolutely terrified. It's all in the lyrics of Matchmaker.
In her mind it was either marry a revolutionary and go to Siberia with a guy she loves, or be forced into a form of slavery where she gets raped and beaten every night by a fat drunk 62 year old man that the matchmaker found for her which made her feel absolutely terrified. It's all in the lyrics of Matchmaker.
@@CaribaPhoenix Stalin executed most of the old bolcheviks during the Great Purge. Assuming Perchik was still involved in politic by 1936, a strong head like him likely got executed and his wife sent to a Siberian Gulag : / Hodle should have followed her Papa & Mama to America.
Don't know about you. But arranged marriages are usually the best. If it turns out that the marriage is a miserable one., then it was badly arranged. .
"It's a new style! On the other hand our old ways were once new" Man Tevye is such a wise man.
He became wiser over time. The key was his openness since he wanted more out of life, ultimately.
"On the other hand, did Adam and Eve have a matchmaker? Yes, they did. And it seems these two have the same matchmaker." I love that line.
When I first watched this film, this line made me laugh.
Yes, the best in this scene, among many, many!
That's what I said! That's such a good line!
His pointing when saying that is what really kills me. He’s like, “listen you sly omnipotent dog, I see what you’re doing here. And I don’t like it, but who am I to argue with you?”
Look at the names.
I love how Tevye always talks to God. It’s beautiful, and humorous.
' would it spoil some vast eternal plan if I were a wealthy man?'
I love how he always magically transports away from whoever he was talking to during the 'marriage' scenes.
Its to show distance. the separation between father and daughter.
its an out of body experience
Yes I like that too. Tevye is talking to the Lord!
I guess it represents the psychological experience, like depersonalization.
Not trying to be silly but I am a diagnosed schizophrenic Jewish man and I have had out of body experiences where I talked to HaShem (G-d). It was delusions but in the moment it felt like time was in slow motion.
“ We are engaged!”
Tevye - “ aw crap not again”
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣exctactly
I kinda feel sorry for reb Tevye because ultimately he's just a respected guy in the village trying to scratch out a humble, honest existence yet he finds himself at the centre of monumental social change!
The only thing that brought comfort to Tevye was that Motel and Perchik were Jewish. They asked him directly for Tzietel's(Motel) and Hodel's(Perchik) hand in marriage. However, Tevye had a hard time accepting Fyedka when he asked for Chavaleh's hand in marriage due to him not being Jewish and leading to her to marry him. Yet when the Jews were being expelled from Russia, he decided to go into exile with her, her family and the others rather than put up with how cruel his government are to them. While Tevye still had a hard time accepting Chava's marriage to Fyedka, he did see how much they love each other. That he was willing to denounce his own people just to support the Jews in exile, which lead to reconciliation.
@@ladyfire44man that ending is so bittersweet.
@@ladyfire44it’s worth pointing out that in the live productions of the show that Fyedka is the Russian officer who leads off in the “L’chaim/To Life” number.
How many times have I seen this movie, and it just now occurred to me that when Tzeitel and Motel ask for Tevye's permission to get married, the characters are in the barnyard (Tevye's home). Then in this above scene, Tevye and Perchik ans Hodel meet on a bridge (indicating faraway places, separation). Then when Chava asks Tevye to accept her and Fyedka, they are in an open, seemingly barren place and there is no one else but the two of them.
Isn’t that something?
Good catch have never noticed that despite seeing this many, many times
Thats deep, good eye
Barren, look again, there are the signs of life all around them.
Wow, I never noticed that either
Rev Tevye: *facing away from Perchik and Hodel* "TRADITION!!!"
Perchik: "You're father's acting strangely."
Hodel: "It's normal for him. Just wait and it'll pass."
*Reb
He is in a paused reality. You can see it happen when he is talking to Lazerwolf about Tzeitel. Everything stops while Tevye thinks. I think it happens in every scene where he says, "On the other hand."
"I'll lock her up in her room. I couldn't. I should."
Gotta love the humor.
just shows how women were prisoners and will be locked up and forced to marry 62 year old drunk men who would beat them every night and rape them (according to Matchmaker) so it's great that Hodel is marrying Perchek and escaping all that torture and slavery and imprisonment.
@@lemurlover7975 Yeah, cause Tevye would be TOTALLY okay with that happening to his kids.
Worthless idiot.
@@daesgatling1345 It was normal then. Unfortunately it's still normal in many parts of the world.
@@daesgatling1345 My teacher's buddy said this film is bull.
@@MrJuvefrank what does the buddy know about it?
"What am I going to tell your mother? Another dream?!" XD
After all why not? Although she probably wouldn't believe it.
Funny because he uses Perchik’s lie on her.
I love how Tevye rejects Perchik's suggestion to tell Golde he has a rich uncle, but later uses it when talking to Golde about the match. XD
Yeah, and she doesn't buy it for an instant.
He knows a good yarn when he hears it!
It turned out not to be as easy as he hoped...
That was hilarious 😂😂😂😂
That transition from his anger in their marriage proposal to “TRADITION!!” is so beautiful in metaphor.
And he makes it second time, a few scenes after he shouts TRADITIOOON to his elder daughter and the poor tailor :)))
I always watch both in a row
I love it he's like "I can handle my own wife" and comes in yelling at the top of his voice. Yet with one look from her he's like "oh shit"
Love that too!
The funniest part is that he ends up telling her that perchik is going to see a rich uncle
Not to mention, when he tells her about the wedding, he immediately bolts for the door!
@@MomoTvT Lol I love that part
"Heloo Golde!" :3
Hahahaha!!! "Perchik, please, I can handle my own wife!" Hahahahaha!!! Tevye loves and respects his wife so much, that's why he fears her.
'But look at my daughter's eyes' brings tears to mine every time.
"Did Adam and Eve have a matchmaker? Oh yes, they did...and it seems these two have the same matchmaker." :)
my favorite line :) overthrow that woman matchmaker who is getting women and girls abused/raped by 62 year fat old drunk men who beat them every night ... let God handle the matches.
The way Tevye bellows *TRADITIONNNN!* at the end of his monologue has significance. He bellows it mournfully, his voice breaking. It symbolises that some of those traditions are dying.
Tevye is the MOST ICONIC character to ever exist
4:56. Golde used "Death Stare". It was super effective!
BrokenWolf1990 Reb Tevye fainted
It is very interesting how the film opens with the song 'Tradition' and then with every 'act' Tevye is forced to break that tradition more and more... First, he allows Tzitel to get married to a man of her choice but Motel is still a safe, acceptable choice. Then Hodel picks a lot less traditional Jew. He's still acceptable due to his religion but a lot less traditional and ideal. Not to mention that she follows him to Siberia while they are not married. No wonder that he can't accept Chava's choice, Fyedka is full-on 'other'. And yet, there is a hint of reconciliation at the end. We can only imagine who the 2 youngest will marry. I would bet that at least one would be an American...
Well they are going to live in America, so that’s easily possible.
I guess that the youngest daughter will say that she wants to go to a regular school, not just being homeschooled at home or takes a job and becomes some kind of supervisor, managing MEN and says that she can provide for herself she doesnt need a man.
A woman
Do you want to know what it says in the original book "Tevye the Dairyman" by Sholom Aleichem? Shprintze, unfortunately, drowns herself after she's rejected by the young man she loves. And Bielke sells her soul by marrying a rich, older, vulgar man she doesn't love, so that her poor father will be provided for.
That's a good observation! I noticed this time that the times of year are different each time too. First summer, then fall, then winter. Tevye is getting colder and colder as the traditions are broken.
Whenever I need to cry my heart out - I watch this. I have seen the film version - goodness knows how many times. I also saw this performance in summer theater with Topol in 1989 in Virginia. I went and stood for 2 hours backstage for Topol to come out so I could shake his hand. His eyes had the same sad look as they did during the play. I know it is foolish to think an actor in real life is similar to the character he portrays. However, I (like to) believe that Topol = Rep Tevye.
"Perchik! I can handle my own wife!" Sure you can, Tevye. LOL
My words exactly lol
Of course he can, that’s why he made up a literal song and dance story to get Tzeitel out of the marriage to Lazar Wolf lololololol
"I can handle my wife!"
More like: "I can't handle my wife, someone help me!"
*Five minutes later*
I suppose that you're right. It seems to me like he's a Reform Jew. This movie takes place in 1905, just after the Reform Judaism movement begun. Despite being a Torah teacher, he never struck me as being particularly religious.
@Liz Lee for Papa, make him a scholar :)
I only now notice Hodel's expression at 2:44 while looking at her papa's fit. It's so funny for some reason, she's clearly concerned but also with a clear non - bullshit attitude
Tevya: What do I tell my Wife? Another dream?!
Hodel: Suddenly I understand how Motel and Tzeitel got together. XD
I LOVE Fiddler on the Roof!! Tevye's such an interesting character - I would like to read the Original book!! :D
Nobody is stopping you. It's in the library, I'm sure. You will find that in the original book, there were seven daughters, not five, and the next one meets a very sad fate. I guess they didn't want to put that in the movie. Spoiler alert: Tevye outlives Goldie. It is very sad but funny at the same time, a great book.
It's the fourth dtr, Shprintze, that meets the saddest fate. Her story didn't make it into Fiddler. There are several translations. I use the Hillel Halkin version published by Schocken Press in my university and adult classes. His intro, and his commentary, is better than the others.
I read it too, bought it already. Meanwhile I learn Yiddish language in the jewish adult evening class, it's really interesting. Maybe I can read it in Yiddish one day
I'm gonna have to be that guy to point out that Perchik (and sadly Hodel with him) was most likely dead within 20 years of this story due to the purges of Lenin. Very few of the original communist organizers/leaders, even those in his inner circle, survived Lenin (let alone Stalin who followed him). Leon Trotsky was a Ukrainian of Jewish descent and ended up assassinated via being slashed up by an ice pick in the back in Mexico after Stalin gave his assassin (who served as a errand-goer for Trotsky for a few months) the go-ahead.
Among the great ironies of it was the fact that Lenin had some Jewish and some Volga German ancestry in his own background. Ideologies like Marxism make monsters out of men.
I wonder what the other characters think when they see Tevye has a breakdown and screams "Traditionn" at the top of his lungs at the sky.
FIDDLER! Another great moment from this great musical!
The "did Adam and Eve have a matchmaker? Yes, it was God" argument was a REALLY good one! I do find it ironic that it couldnt apply to Chava as well but I understand why she didn't get that benefit of the doubt even if I disagree with the logic.
It does not apply to Chava because you could say that in this last case, God was testing the limits of Tevye (from his point of view), I guess. 🤔
this movie is so sweet
It's funny seeing Paul Michael Glazer as Perchik here when later he'd play Tevye in a production I had the good fortune to see.
+JavertRA Really. That's an interesting coincidence, since it's my understanding that Rosalind Harris, who played Tzeitel in this movie, would later play Golde on Broadway, alongside Topol, who plays her father here.
Anyway, I wonder how Paul felt hearing his own defiant words get thrown back at him.
Tevye is so cool in his rationale towards this situation.
"Perchik please I can handle my own wife!" lol
Five minutes later…
PERCHIK: "Perhaps you could tell her I'm going to visit a rich uncle!"
TEVYE: "Perchik, please! I CAN HANDLE MY OWN WIFE!"
...
TEVYE (to GOLDE): "I hear he has a rich uncle..!"
😂
I dont think or see him as a secular Jew. He dosent break Jewish LAW but TRADITION is another story. Remember he even asked the Rabbi if women and men danceing together was FORBIDDEN by Jewish law AND IT WASNT
i just cry every time i watch FOTR
I love how this scene is shot.
"'Thank you, Papa? Thank you, Papa?' What am I going to tell your mother, another dream?!"
It must be difficult, being a parent. My parents raised three daughters😂😂😂
"We are getting married." Sounded like Obi-Wan
Graeme Anderson Kind of, maybe with Satine.
You see the total disrespect he feels from Perchik after, “I’m not asking for your permission.” Then comes the total game changer. “I love her.” You see such a change from Tevya. Love is stronger than tradition. As hard as it is for Tevya to acquiesce, he knows it to be true. What a good man. Love makes us strong.
My school is doing this play i am hoping to be Hodel!
And still - so many families act like this. I'm over 50 - and my Mum is acting like Tevye about my Chinese girlfriend of 12 years. Her name is Judith! ha ha ! and acting like a Yiddisha Momma - we aren't even Jewish - but in my family - TRADITION !
What a great movie!!
I can handle my wife = b.s.
Five minutes later: "I hear he has a rich uncle."
1988 I was a cute resident of Anatevka; my mother was Hodle....
How many hands does Tevye have!?? O.O
RIIIIIGHT?🤣🤣🤣
Ohhh boyyyy ...and I cry ..of course ...
Its his love that shines through!
Aww they cut out the "handling the wife" and the "rich uncle" bit :D
they are my favorite couple! :)
On the other hand... :)
@HEBisreal No no. That's Fyedka and Chava. Perchik is a Jew- a Marxist or some such, but a Jew nevertheless. This is why he's called Reb Perchik, why he covers his head, why he mingles amongst the Jewish community, and why he's allowed to marry and teach them.
Is Ra El not Isreal!!!
Great movie
TRUE, what needs to be understood is there is a huge differance betwen breakin tradion and breaking Jewish law...ratter women and men dance together is bassed on Jewish tradion NOT Jewish law. Marrying a non Jew is breaking Jewish law
Golde
GOLDEEEEEEEEE
hmm?
....hello, golde...
"On the other hand... They decided without parents! Without a matchmaker!"
1:52 Hold on folks, here we go again....
GOLDE
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLDE
hello golde
4:50-5:00 that scene reminds me my grandparents' relationship.
Topol is the GOAT
He sure was.
how the hell does he just suddenly get so far away lol
billy pilgrim I can relate to stressful situations
It’s SYMBOOOOOLIC~🎶
My favorite line is: "whether I like or not, you'll marry him! So what do you want from me? Go on! Be wed! And tear out my beard and uncover my head!" As if to say: "where do we draw the line then? I might as well give everything up!" Psychological splitting at its finest.
He is not a Christian, he is a secular Jew.
Perchik is a communist revolutionary
That's why you pullas out a thread only when YOU are comfoetable with doing so.
Can I see the entire movie on youtube? ty
"At least with Tzeitel and Motel,they asked me, they begged me? But now if I like it or not,you'll marry him?"Why bother? Perchik is leaving for U.S.A/America anyway.
no he is leaving for Siberia
Perchik was sent to Siberia for a crime he NEVER committed.
Poor Tevye can’t control any of his daughters. I know the feeling well.
People aren't meant to be controlled, people who try to control others are toxic.
@scribonius, wait until you are a parent, then, and only then, will you truly understand.
I too know the feeling. fathers are their little girls best heros and male role models and advisers, until they grow up and are supplanted by another male. if you haven't taught them what they need to know about boys & men by then. you've missed the boat since they won't pay attention after that.
Yeeeaaahhh me too. I love my grandson though, the light of my life.
Wrong word, My friend. "Control" = Toxic. Trust me. I know. It's more along the lines of "Guide"
Continuing - my earlier comment. It makes me happy to think Topol might have absorbed some of the characteristics of Rep Tevye. If he did not sincerely believe in the character, his eyes would not be able to convey the pain and hope they do!
1:50 Hold on folks, here we go again!!
@Kassaremidybelllynn I agree. Some things can be changed, and it does not say in the Bible that people are not allowed to arrange their own matches, but it is expressly, totally, unchallengeabely forbidden to marry a non-Jew.
I know it says that, but I disagree with it wholeheartedly. There are people in the Bible who married non-Jews and they weren't considered dead or shunned etc. A few examples I can give are Joseph and he married an Egyptian, Moses and he married a Midianite and Esther a.k.a. Haddassah married a Persian king
Good afternoon
You rcognize Perchik? It is Starsky - Paul Mikel gleiser.
Tevye: Aw, shit! Here we go again!
no. he is Jewish. Just not nearly as traditional as the Jews in Anatevka. He is a secular Jew :)
@HEBisreal I don't think so, or else Tevye would forbid their marriage like he did for the youngest daughter later.
I don't know if they portrayed his character as religious - they did portray as being bound to tradition (which is a way of life in which he feels comfortable)!
Sounds like Tevye's in a drunken mood for him to be yelling and screaming and a marriage between four kids. Tzeitel,Motel,Perchik and Hodel.
4:05 - 4:09 should be a gif
We gave each other a pledge
Where's the continuation for this???
perchik's just my type!
A typical Bólshevik as I live and breathe. 😂
@Pinkpanda73 it's Hodel that marries Perchik not Chava
You papa you papa Rich uncle
@HEBisreal No, that's Fyedka, the boy Chava marries.
Niki Samero
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how do I tell Golda?
Paul Michael Glaser, just before Starsky and Hutch.
i love this scene! but i've always wondered, why didn't tevye look into chava's eyes? i know that he was angry at her for marrying a christian and becoming one, but y ddnt he @ LEAST look in her eyes?
He was probably afraid he'd break, which he didn't want to do.
I think he did it to disregard her and act as though she was dead when she wasn't. Not all Jews do this nowadays, but unfortunately some still do this if anyone in there family marries a non-Jew. With the Jews are more religious, it's more likely to happen, but with the Jews who are not so religious, it's less likely to happen
He wasn't Christian. He was Russian Orthodox. But he wasn't jewish, so that was enough to make him an outsider.
@@2Fangirl Russian Orthodox is still Xtian.
He is a Jew not Christian
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Can you imagine if Tevye lived in today’s world? He’d be appalled by today’s love.
Można zrobić arcydzieło-?-,jasne, że tak!Wystarczy dobry scenariusz,świetni aktorzy i i łebski reżyser.Mało?!!!...A tak wiele,niestety...Tu mamy przykład arcydzieła-tak się to robi(a nie cierpię musichalli,kurwa!)
That's the daughter that made the worst decision when it comes to who she'd marry with. This guy was most likely killed or died in prision. She's a jewish girl alone in a place she doesn't know anybody. And even if she comes back home...the town was evacuated. She doesn't know that because her parents were taken by surprise and didn't have time to write her about it, informing where they'd be heading to. All this for a dude that likes politics more than his fiancée. And I like politics! Hahaha
Not necessarily. Back then (1905 - you can tell because you see images of the Russian 1905 uprising in the film), the Czarist government tended to exile political arrestees into the middle of nowhere in Siberia. So basically, Perchik's punishment would be living out in the middle of nowhere - with his wife pretty close by if not living with him. Not the worst possible existence. Plus, fast forward about 9 years, Perchik being in prison would have likely protected him from getting drafted into the Russian Army in WW1. Fast forward another 3 years, and Perchik would likely be one of the new Bolsheviks running the entire country. So you could argue Hodel made a really good decision, though she wouldn't know it for about 12 years.
@@CaribaPhoenix In her mind it was either marry a revolutionary and go to Siberia with a guy she loves, or be forced into a form of slavery where she gets raped and beaten every night by a fat drunk 62 year old man that the matchmaker found for her which made her feel absolutely terrified. It's all in the lyrics of Matchmaker.
In her mind it was either marry a revolutionary and go to Siberia with a guy she loves, or be forced into a form of slavery where she gets raped and beaten every night by a fat drunk 62 year old man that the matchmaker found for her which made her feel absolutely terrified. It's all in the lyrics of Matchmaker.
She just loves him ❤️
Probably really just admires and respects his character qualities and is worth it to her
@@CaribaPhoenix Stalin executed most of the old bolcheviks during the Great Purge. Assuming Perchik was still involved in politic by 1936, a strong head like him likely got executed and his wife sent to a Siberian Gulag : / Hodle should have followed her Papa & Mama to America.
0:43 ......rejected.
We are engaged to be married
Don't know about you. But arranged marriages are usually the best.
If it turns out that the marriage is a miserable one., then it was badly arranged. .
Say what you want about this guy.. the fact that no spankings are happening.. is like large steps are happening
God seems to be more tolerant when people.