Mammoth Ivory: Cutting out the Blocks for My Knives
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2018
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Leave a question that you have below and I will love to answer it in detail in a video! EnJoy
Would a mammoth bone chunk,be great for sanding smooth?
Have you ever done scrimshaw?
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I have been looking everywhere for good scale material can we make a deal?
Where i can buy mammoth ivory?
I lived in Alaska for 40+ years and have watched and talked to natives that carve out of both Mastodon fossilized ivory and also pre 1972 or even newer (if they are Ak Natives) and they will stabilize the ends of the ivory by flooding it with super thin "Super Glue". Let it dry and do it again and again till it takes no more. Then they start cutting and sizing up their pieces. This works better than epoxy as it flows much easier with gravity. Just my two cents.. Nice tusks. I was lucky enough to obtain 6 gallon bucket from a miner friend and use it for guitar nuts and saddles. Great stuff!
Hey Rick glad you’re here with us. Thanks for the fun fact. That’s pretty cool. Thanks for sharing. 👍🏻🔥☕️🗡
Team Royer
Thin glue, commercial grade
A vacuum chamber for stabilizing works well with epoxy
Weird shaped chunks aren't wasted if you use them in composite/mosaic handles.
Very interesting! You definitely don't skimp of choosing the best materials for your knives, I'd be tempted to make all kinds of knives just to fit the smaller sized blocks, even some letter openers lol. The good thing is that you can use the thinner sections for some hot blued frame handles, as that's always a beautiful combo, an then maybe even use some of the shorter chunks for a dagger that has some type ofa spacer in the center of the handle. What would be even _cooler_ though, would be if you took and the unusable scraps and made the most exquisite rendition of a Kabar Bowie but did a stacked creamy white mammoth handle instead of leather 😮, and then a mosaic Damascus blade with hot blued guard and pommel 😁. Lol, I'm just living a bit vicariously through your skills and materials now, but imagining projects can be half the fun lol. Thanks as always for sharing you guys, it's always a fun learning experience watching your vids. Take care :)
Great comment! Thanks for your support! That is a beautiful combo!
The bark would make great grips on a 1911 pistol
Copy that richard 👍🏻🔥☕️⚔️
Just a thought on the odd smaller shaped pieces, if you cut them into inch thick pucks you can do layered grips like with alternativing ivory. So like your steel butt cap, ivory, wood, ivory,wood,ivory, then guard. Eliminates alot of waste.
Being close to destitute, working with mammoth ivory is a thing of dreams for me at the moment. As it is I think I'd have a heart attack trying to work that stuff, too scared to ruin it! Thanks again for sharing your journey, truly inspiring stuff!
You are welcome! Thank you for your replay, That's what is inspiring to me! :)
Oh man, the things I'd do with just a small piece of that beautiful, beautiful mammoth tusk, a couple of knife handles, some hands for my tools, even a hatchet handle. That must be what people call happiness.
What do you end up doing with your triangular off cuts and cracked segments?
Kyle Royer, try experimenting with a combination of Ivory & Epoxy Resin to achieve the sizeable block you want.
Thanks Kagiso
Have you fused resins with any types of ivory ?
Give us a shout out on some of your results . Thanks again
Dad
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KyleRoyerKnives- they sell lots of stabilized mammoth ivory online that they have simply bonded with opaque white epoxy resin. Fills in the cracks and allows you to get whatever dimensions you want as well as utilizing a lot more material without waste.
This is what I was thinking.
Hey Kyle, this is somewhat an unrelated question... but looking at a lot of your works, I'm very curious to know how you attach the scales to blades constructed with a framed tang. Do you glue them on or are they peened on?
I was nervous for you cutting into that tusk!!! Pretty cool
Could probably use the bits and odds for panels like how you see on gun grips and riffle stocks. Maybe even try setting some down the middle of a blade or on a scabbard. Don't have to use it just for a solid handle.
You will be able to use almost all of that ivory Kyle, keep the smaller bits for inlay and stuff like that
For the short blocks and some of the odd pieces have you considered doing a multipiece construction for your handles with some kind of a gold plated spacer or inlay in between the pieces I think that would look really nice
you should make scales from some of those pieces that are imperfect or not good enough for blocks. The inner rot actually has an appeal of its own as well.
Absolutely. Would love to have scales to make grip for my 1911
could you stabilize the blocks on the more severely cracked blocks with some epoxy resin without devaluing the ivory too much?
Very interesting video, thanks for uploading. Also I'm glad you got some really beautiful chunks of top grade ivory out of the cracky blocks. I have a friend who is a knife maker, he says buying big blocks is always risky and pretty much a gamble cos you never know how many cracks are inside the stuff until you cut the them open, and often you will end up getting a lot of scrap pieces after taking out the usable materials". Anyway good luck, I'm hoping to see some follow-up videos on how did you do with the good small chunks. Thanks.
Our experience to date says if it's cracked on the outside, it's probably cracked on the inside. However, sometimes we are fatally optimistic and thats a good thing.
I have hand carved many elephant ivory pistol grips. I am making a custom knife for my daily carry right now, and I am cringing at the amount I am going to spend on the ivory. It is worth every penny.
Lots of ivory spacers!
Very interesting video you guys! Ive never seen anyone using a tusk section. Do you stabalize your ivory?
Yes, I do my own stabilizing with it. I put it under 21 inches of vacuum in a high grade polyurethane for a couple days, and then let it dry for at least a month. Thanks for your question!
I think it would be cool to stabilize a 5" chunk with resin (either to match or to contrast) in a pressure tank, then it would be 100% usable for blanks and you also celebrate the mammoth tusk with all the natural inconsistency's that one would expect from a tusk that's thousands of years old. Lookup wood stabilizing in wood turning, it will work in this application and would be very unique. Just a thought, love the vids!!!
@DATING HARLEY QUINN yes stabilize in a vacuum chamber with "cactus juice" then you can cast solid in a pressure pot.
Ok, two concepts here that seem to be confused, stabilizing is impregnating a material to make it stronger and is also used for dyeing and yes this is done in a vacuum chamber and the other is resin casting. To create a 100% usable block with matching or contrasting resin you would resin cast and not necessarily need to stabilize. When casting you do use a pressure pot and not a vacuum chamber, at 50-60 psi the pressure crushes the air bubbles to a size that cannot be seen with the naked eye.
That was interesting somebody would want those smaller scales for sure. Seems like you could even take smaller pieces and epoxy them together in a clear epoxy and make a cool handle
Not related to the video, but what site do you get your custom electro etching stencils from?
Alaska Fur Exchange has a great supply of ivory. I carve for a living and have purchased some very nice pieces of mammoth and walrus from them. Some of the very best ( solid) were walrus. They are great to work with and I can recommend them without hesitation. I absolutely love what you are doing with this and the mosaics. Keep posting, we will keep watching.
Hey thanks for the heads up my friend. We will have to check them out 👍🏻☕️🔥⚔️
Looks like just finding decent size pieces is a challenge itself. Can you use smaller chunks for like hunter butts or a laminated set of scales on smaller knives?
That's a great idea Robert! My dad is working on a lot of chef knife that we will be able too us like spacers and random chef knife handle stuff
even the ivory dust is useful
You mentioned in past videos that the ivory can shrink if not taken care of causing the gold wire wrap in the flutes loosen. Can the ivory be stabilized like some woods using cactus juice or a similar product to prevent it?
I've had some of it stabilized before and can't really tell any difference. I think it's mostly too dense but some pieces might benefit from it a little. Kyle
Great video
You being from Missouri you know we throw nothing away cause when you do you’ll regret it cause one day you’re going need it
Copy copy my friend
Dad
Two years in the future, it has been fun to see how you’ve used this Ivory. Your knives and swords are truly works of art. I love your clipped point Bowie design, and fighters. Sometimes the level of perfection in your blades is intimidating to think about? The basic shape, and design are so cool! But, the level of materials, fit and finish would make me scared to handle them? For sure, the museum quality pieces that you make would NEVER leave the house.
Please don’t use non-extinct ivory! I would like to NOT think that Elephants will only be found in Zoos?
Markets for secondary/primary animal parts drives poaching.
Many of our knives go directly into service according to our clients desires
E ivory needs to be documented
Glad you’re here druwk
Cheers from the Ozarks my friend
Dad
For the cracked pieces, have you tried dyeing and stabilizing it to make it useful again?
No not yet NORMAN
Happy new year
Team Royer
@@KyleRoyerKnives Happy New Year.
Since these mammoth tusks are minerals now, don't they break easily under impacts on a camp knife, for example?
They are not mineralized, but preserved frozen in the tundra
I'd probably save all the scraps to do mosaic scales or inlays. Still cool
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7:00 I keep a quarter in my wallet purely for just such occasions. Heads play it safe, tails risk it for a biscuit. And I got heads but I imagine you’re not going to leave a few thousand dollar block of mammoth ivory to a coin toss so do as you do
Sometimes I feel like a quarter would be better. haha Thanks for the comment!
one day I hope to work with some mammoth ivory. need to get my skill level up before i dare attempt it
Do you have any small chunks left you would sell? I’m looking for small space material for a little kitchen knife.. thanks
Sorry Henry we don’t. Good to have you hanging out with us all my friend
Dad
I want this one bro.. It's very beauty...
You could use clear epoxy to create some interesting knife handles with the cracked pieces 😊
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Happy new year
The bits that are "waste" of the ivory could be turned into small bits and inserted into resin to make handles? if there are cracks, couldn't you fill those gaps with resin?
That’s one way of working with them.
Cheers
Dad
I inherited my great grandmother's piano. I want to make a pair of earrings out of each key. I need to cut the thin piece of ivory and polish it. Can you please advise on what I should use?
Jewelers saw
Take it up to 3000grit then take it up to an ultra fine buffing rouge
Keep Forging On
Happy new year
Dad
Its amazing how the tusks sounds it seems like theyr heavy?
Ivory has about twice the density of water. So one block should be around 2 kg.
Couldn't you stabilize it and fill the cracks and voids with resin?
Hey Severed that’s definitely becoming more popular. We are leaning toward that end in house. Glad you’re here my friend. 👍🏻🔥☕️🗡
Dad
@@KyleRoyerKnives Brilliant 😁
Glad to hear you's are considering it in the future. It's definitely worth it, especially if you can source your own timber. I mean, as good as it is buying top 'A' grade timber from suppliers; there's just something special about making your own stabilized bits and resin cast handles.
Cheers.
Checked out some stabilizing techniques, found out some of the sweet looking blocks are multi sequence vacuum for over a week and put in a chamber from 2500-3500psi for days . When we go in we would be going all in , high end 👍🏻🔥☕️🤙🏻. Looks like fun and work👍🏻☕️
@@KyleRoyerKnives Awesome! I can't wait to see what you're all gonna make 👌
Hey Dude, those larger outer bark pieces, would make really great gun grips! Just an idea so these pieces don't get wasted!
I was thinking the same. 1911 handles, which are wide but thin
Would like to know how you flute the handles.
Glad you found the vids Norman
Team Royer
RESIN CASTING! Glue the ivory to the bottom of a cup. Add a contrasting color pigment to the resin. Pressure pot to fill the crack. Wood and ivory segmented handles. I see little to no waste in that pile. Just added time to create a useable size piece. I'm sure you know this, and it's either more time than your able to spend making useable pieces. But man so much money to not make an attempt at it. Then again I'm also not a master smith. I've made a total of 4 knives so my opinion is kaput. Hahahahaa
The small part that is left over could be used for inlays? Mammoth Ivory inlays
Copy copy my friend
Where can I get a small block of that stuff?
Hi, you can get some at Blade. It's held down in Georgie in June.
??? Blade? What's that? What's Georgie?
Viola Bear blade show in the state of Georgia
Have you got any of the outside bark for sale?
One more thought... could make a vertically fluted (with the metal forming the flutes) interlocking “cage” handle with thinner ivory panels? Thicker at the pommel side...kind of a descending crown?
Fossilized ivory continually moves
Rocks do also with temperature and ambient humidity changes
When using natural products we do to the best of our abilities diligently make provision for this movement
Keep Forging On my friend
Dad
Can you make a set of Mammoth ivory grips for my Colt 1911 Government or my Colt python
Alfie
Thanks for the offer, however it wouldn’t be possible at this time. ~Team Royer
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i guess you could make pens out of leftovers))
You people are so lucky. I am really jealous of u guys. This is because import of mammoth ivory is illegal in my country.
Can you save the saw dust and mix it with epoxy to fix some cracks
Have nice day my hero with love frome algeria ❤️❤️🇩🇿🇩🇿
You are very kind Adoul
Keep Forging On my friend
Chao
Dad
Keep in mind the smaller blocks that you say would be useless are not you can always sell them two guys who make guitars now yes generally on the neck they use mother-of-pearl however I've seen a lot of guitars that have Ivory so contact them you may be able to sell thin strips that are wide enough to go on a guitar neck just food for thought
That's wood. You cant fool us
Mammoth ivory ? How rare is that stuff, shouldn't it be in a mueseam ? lol
It will be after Kyle turns it into a masterpiece of modern blacksmithing
It’s surprisingly common. Here in Russia, where most of it is found, the tusks sell for a lot less. The ivory is pretty much identical to elephant ivory, so elephant poaching dropped significantly after the enormous supply was tapped.
You need some shim stock to check the depth of the cracks
Awesome haul. So jelous
It was a bit stressful cutting into it but we ended up with some great pieces.
You should forge a straight razor use the ivory for the scales
Nice!! I’m an ivory carver from New Mexico. Let me know if you’ll sell off the scrap! I can show you how to mend those cracks instead of prying it apart!! I saw you do that and it hurt my heart lol. My name is Jeff. Post back, I can help you with it
Hi. Before cutting, why don't you take a look in x-ray or MRI?
I use resin infused mammoth ivory so that even cracked pieces to minimize waste...
Deep, the elephant an't the only contributor of ivory I guess
stabilizing? Is it possible to pump something like Cactus Juice into the things and stabilize them? Maybe not Cactus Juice because you have to bake it (don't know about heat and mammoth ivory). But, something like it? I am hating to see that much ivory sacrificed.
Good question kevin
We are currently studying a stabilizing processes that involve many hours of vacuum and a high 2500-3500 psi treatment.
Dad
Excellent video
Thank you so much for your support! :)
whether it is perjual and buy right?
I made scrimshaw here in Hawaii most of my life. Worked on a lot of mammoth ivory. Under pressure from the environmentalists, the state banned the sale and production of all forms of ivory, including mammoth. It put lots of people here out of business for fraudulent reasons. Look out, they'll be coming for you next.
Copy that my friend
Sorry to hear about that
Cheers
Dad
Interesting stuff. Is it possible to ascertain if it genuine mammoth vs African elephant ?
We use mammoth
It’s still legal to purchase both
Cheers
Dad
Mammoth is fairly easy to distinguish over African or Walrus ivory. Looking at the end section of Mammoth you will notice a cross hatching pattern where in "other" modern ivory it is smooth.
i love and hate this mammoth ivory is rare and not to be wasted and as a tusk is a thing of wonder but as a handle is amazing but im sure it'll be banned if tomany ppl buy it and cut up but also i would love to do this but I'm sure you could use the scraps as pendants and inlays ect
You can buy a mammoth tooth in my store here www.etsy.com/shop/turquoisekevingalina
Got any of those scales left?
Surely cracks like that can be detected with xray prior to purchase?
Probably. It may exceed the price of the mammoth. Cheers my friend
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Dad
Hi, does it smell like moose or deer antler when you sand it
Mammoth or elephant tusks are rare and valuable. They could in the hands of a craftsman become masterpieces for a museum. As knife handles they are the worst material and only show wealth to their owner.
You need to use resin as a filler to connect some pieces
where can I purchase mammoth ivory?
I think it is really nice , why not save as a part of history? how expensive was it ?
It’s more common then we’re led to believe. Good to premium pieces are very expensive. Cheers my friend
Dad
The bark is (to me) the best part. Any cracks, and nooks, and crannies just gives it more charactor. Unless your going for the smoothness , but my point is it's all usable material. I wish I could buy a couple pieces for scrimshawed handles. What kind of money would that be? 1x5" by .50" thick? .......Not 4 sale- I'm sure.
I'll buy a couple bark pieces if you don't want them.
I saw alot of warnings about dangerous infectious diseases could transmited by this tusks like anthrax unknown viruses and ....is that true?could working and cutting this be dangerouss???
Good one about anthrax. No. One of our biggest concerns is the same with any bone or tusk or antler is while grinding micro-fibers can stick to our lungs. Then there’s always the dreaded customs officer that can’t tell the difference between mammoth elephant. Knife be gone 👎🏻
Glad you’re here
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Have you thought of selling the smaller pieces to billiard cue maker. I used some mammoth Ivory for ferrule butt caps and the like. My 1"x1"x6" piece cost me about $100
You should use epoxy and vacuum seal the cracks.
I need some material for pistol grips...
I have an end of a tusk section that I would get rid of. Contact me.
I have 2 3 foot tusks
If there were a way for you to x ray the blocks before cutting into them, to find judge their internal integrety.
The pieces make good stiff picks mostly bluegrass pickers like pics that stiff
I am surprised it is legal to harvest Mammoth Tusks I would prefer to see them left intact. Regardless, I love your work.
Well it's illegal in the west to possess or trade ivory unless you can prove it's old because reduces the incentive for poachers to kill elephants. Mammoths have been dead for thousands of years.
@@Anuwabu You're making my point in a way. They have been gone thousands of years and if we always destroy them generations to come with never see them intact.
Capitalism
Watch "Genesis 2.0".
@@HeartPumper I tried to find this, please be more specific.
Hello I want to purchase this mammath teeth can you suggest me some stores in Europe n America
That poor mammoth hadn't seen a dentist in 10,000,000 years that's why !
Good one my friend
The mammoth ivory is only around 6-10 thousand years old
It’s not as old as a few may want us to believe
Cheers from the Ozarks Stephanie
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Dad
Make Mammoth ivory earrings or rings out of them, search up walrus hook earrings and get an idea of how to make earrings or rings. They are costly and could make good money out of carving
Mr. Royer can't you actually use those pieces to laminate a multi-peice handle that would look really good with some filed brass and steel spacers along with some dark cocobolo wood
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Is it legal to buy them?
Would you be interested in looking for tasks at the permafrost region yourself? Adventure holiday :)
Why not stablilze the pieces with the crack with some (interesting) resin?
I thought any ivory was illegal to buy.
Nope
If he's putting on a mask (respirator) like that then it must be some toxic stuff
Bone and antler is nasty stuff. Doesn't smell good and I'm sure you don't want it in your lungs.
Do u sell what’s not used?
No it’s hard to come by premium pieces
We find uses for most of it
Dad
MRI scans is what you need to do on them for future reverence.
@KyleRoyers 👉👉👉💡💡💡Hey Kyle, if you're buying thousands of dollars of Ivory, I would strongly advise you to take these sawn blocks and a good quality synthetic resin and put it in a small chamber under negative pressure - this allows the synthetic resin to flow into the smallest gaps and you can use almost the entire block for knife handles and have hardly any waste. I hope this will help you. Good luck man 😁
Could I get a piece!!!!???
You have to FIGURE IT WELL.... like cutting diamond...
One can make GREAT LOOKING pieces from SMALL PIECES OF VENEER
Copy that my friend