Kinship and disruption..how butler loves those! She has truly succeeded at this point in time, in her mission to disrupt to the point of insanity. Talking of trans ideology
Perhaps, in part, a distinction is being made between purveyors of a politics dependent on fantasies and assurances of expanding wealth (or "'arguments they have a problem with") and those of a politics that has to reinvent its ordinary and its relation to its organizing objects, other people and other forms of life.
Avital Ronell refers at around 55:00 to the bridges that were set up as torture instruments in Middle Ages.However, I have googled it extensively, and I cannot understand to what exactly she refers to. Could anyone explain? Amazing discussion btw!
I believe she is saying "breaches." She is speaking specifically about the trauma that arises from our (problematic) classifications of one another. This relates well to some thoughts Butler has been expressing regarding grief and the value attributed to human life based on these classifications; whose death, and thus life, is more grieveable? How did we arrive at this conclusion and what basis and utility does it truthfully hold? The breaches throw into contrast how these classifications are used to solidify groups and individual identities, often in opposition to other individual and corporate identities, and give rise to traumatic experiences. The trauma of encounter she deploys is exemplary of this.
lol my freind sent me a clip of this... I didnt think the speech cat thing was real.. and i wish it wasnt why tf are we paying these people? I can come up w way more entertaining jibberish
How horrifying that a wonderful writer and thinker such as Cixous sits and lectures with these pompous academic clowns. One sentence from her work is worth more than all of their books put together.
Almost two hours of completely empty garbage. I literally noticed how brain cells died when I looked at it. Considering how much power Judith Butler has and how big her influence still is, it's depressing that in this 2012 video nobody knew how far her nonsense would spread.
I felt this instantly. I think the appeal comes from her linking a pinch of spiritual thought (to me, she's toying with some basic ideas of manifestation) to a modern social movement and plaster it with as many intellectual-sounding words as she can find. Really cumbersome and annoying to listen to.
These are really brilliant women here, and Helene Cixous would not be on the panel with the other two without deep respect for both of them. If you can’t follow this or understand it, I would suggest that you consider the fact that it might not be THEIR fault, if you follow me...
No need to suggest to others where their faults lie, especially when it is you who doesn't "follow". Who cares if she has respect for them or not? She sits with them and that's sad. It's a simple statement. And no, it is not hard to understand the gargling of the clowns, merely painful. The only thing hard to understand is how second-rate scholars get the same prominence as the actual philosophers they are paid to interpret. Without a doubt, this is the academic world today: all brilliance, zero originality. The strangest thing is how many young people feel comfortable there...
"Fault?" Must we really apply the language of moral blame or the language of 'inadequately incomplete (fault-y)' while appreciating the work of Cixous, Butler, and Ronell....three thinkers who (in their own way) have worked to decenter the mandate to Understand Completely? I deeply appreciate the work of all three of these incredibly creative, brilliant philosophers. But I also recognize that I have been gifted with the opportunity to study Continental philosophy at length. The time, money, and effort to do so can not be afforded by many people, and I mean "afford" in the economic and affective sense of the term. If you take the abstraction, the difficulty of these arguments as a kind of intellectual phallus-measuring contest..."I bet I can "understand" more than you!"...than you have 1. completely misconstrued anything of value speakers have ever said or written. What is it that they have said and written particularly of value? The decentering of philosophy as a rich white boy's club. "A politics of the public body," as Butler was quoted in the opening of this lecture. Whether or not you find their writings effective for this purpose, you still seem to have miscontrued that purpose in a miserable way.
If I was having this conversation everyone would think im tripping
The high priests are murmuring
Kinship and disruption..how butler loves those! She has truly succeeded at this point in time, in her mission to disrupt to the point of insanity. Talking of trans ideology
Perhaps, in part, a distinction is being made between purveyors of a politics dependent on fantasies and assurances of expanding wealth (or "'arguments they have a problem with") and those of a politics that has to reinvent its ordinary and its relation to its organizing objects, other people and other forms of life.
Helene Cixous has allowed for a new perspective on the phrase "crazy cat-lady."
Avital Ronell refers at around 55:00 to the bridges that were set up as torture instruments in Middle Ages.However, I have googled it extensively, and I cannot understand to what exactly she refers to. Could anyone explain?
Amazing discussion btw!
I believe she is saying "breaches." She is speaking specifically about the trauma that arises from our (problematic) classifications of one another. This relates well to some thoughts Butler has been expressing regarding grief and the value attributed to human life based on these classifications; whose death, and thus life, is more grieveable? How did we arrive at this conclusion and what basis and utility does it truthfully hold? The breaches throw into contrast how these classifications are used to solidify groups and individual identities, often in opposition to other individual and corporate identities, and give rise to traumatic experiences. The trauma of encounter she deploys is exemplary of this.
lol my freind sent me a clip of this... I didnt think the speech cat thing was real.. and i wish it wasnt why tf are we paying these people? I can come up w way more entertaining jibberish
Luv that Berio.
But how does this affect the price of fish?
How horrifying that a wonderful writer and thinker such as Cixous sits and lectures with these pompous academic clowns. One sentence from her work is worth more than all of their books put together.
They're all clowns
Almost two hours of completely empty garbage. I literally noticed how brain cells died when I looked at it. Considering how much power Judith Butler has and how big her influence still is, it's depressing that in this 2012 video nobody knew how far her nonsense would spread.
I felt this instantly. I think the appeal comes from her linking a pinch of spiritual thought (to me, she's toying with some basic ideas of manifestation) to a modern social movement and plaster it with as many intellectual-sounding words as she can find.
Really cumbersome and annoying to listen to.
I like the guy with the hat next to the fellow with the butch haircut.
Does Žižek consider these women?
Holy shit 😂
والنآئبات لها نيوب.
You are right on target! How unbearable to sit through them...
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Villa Gillet, Judith Butler, Avital Ronell are not original not original thinkers
These are really brilliant women here, and Helene Cixous would not be on the panel with the other two without deep respect for both of them. If you can’t follow this or understand it, I would suggest that you consider the fact that it might not be THEIR fault, if you follow me...
No need to suggest to others where their faults lie, especially when it is you who doesn't "follow". Who cares if she has respect for them or not? She sits with them and that's sad. It's a simple statement. And no, it is not hard to understand the gargling of the clowns, merely painful. The only thing hard to understand is how second-rate scholars get the same prominence as the actual philosophers they are paid to interpret. Without a doubt, this is the academic world today: all brilliance, zero originality. The strangest thing is how many young people feel comfortable there...
"Fault?" Must we really apply the language of moral blame or the language of 'inadequately incomplete (fault-y)' while appreciating the work of Cixous, Butler, and Ronell....three thinkers who (in their own way) have worked to decenter the mandate to Understand Completely?
I deeply appreciate the work of all three of these incredibly creative, brilliant philosophers. But I also recognize that I have been gifted with the opportunity to study Continental philosophy at length. The time, money, and effort to do so can not be afforded by many people, and I mean "afford" in the economic and affective sense of the term.
If you take the abstraction, the difficulty of these arguments as a kind of intellectual phallus-measuring contest..."I bet I can "understand" more than you!"...than you have 1. completely misconstrued anything of value speakers have ever said or written.
What is it that they have said and written particularly of value? The decentering of philosophy as a rich white boy's club. "A politics of the public body," as Butler was quoted in the opening of this lecture. Whether or not you find their writings effective for this purpose, you still seem to have miscontrued that purpose in a miserable way.