Jesus (PBUH): The Perfect Prelude to the Final Messenger | Dr. Ali Ataie
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- Ustadh Dr. Ali Ataie gives spiritual insights about how Isa (AS) was the brother of Muhammad ﷺ and his forerunner. He also answers questions and addresses some of the delicate issues regarding Muslims who have Christian family members.
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Ustadh Ali Ataie is a perennial student and researcher who has been involved in interfaith activities for over two decades. He holds a Masters in biblical studies with a focus on New Testament and biblical languages. He also holds a PhD in cultural and historical studies in religion from the Graduate Theological Union. His doctoral work focused on Muslim hermeneutics of biblical texts, especially the Gospel of John. He lives in San Ramon, CA with his wife Roya and three daughters. Learn more about him at zaytuna.edu/ac...
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Sidi Ali Ataie studied various Islamic sciences with local San Francisco Bay Area scholars. He is a graduate of the Badr Arabic Language Institute in Hadramawt, Yemen, and studied at the prestigious Dar al-Mustafa, also in Hadramawt, under some of the most eminent scholars in the world. He holds a Master’s Degree in Biblical Studies from the Graduate Theological Union in Berkeley (Oct. 2011), with emphasis upon the New Testament (he is the first Muslim seminarian in the over 150 year history of the school to earn this degree). He is certified in Arabic, Hebrew, and Biblical Greek, and is fluent in Farsi. He also holds a Ph.D. in Islamic Biblical Hermeneutics from the Graduate Theological Union (Oct. 2016) and is a professor of Arabic, Qur'an, and Comparative Theologies at Zaytuna College, the first accredited Muslim College in North America.
Education: M.A., Biblical Studies, Graduate Theological Union; Ph.D. Islamic Biblical Hermeneutics, Graduate Theological Union.
Although the Prophet ﷺ subtly objected that people should not rise for him the way they used to rise for kings, Hassan ibn Thabit, the celebrated poet, struck by the Messenger’s beauty, rose and recited the following lines,
My rising for the beloved is upon me a mandate,
deserting a mandate is not upright.
I wonder about the one with insight and wit;
who sets eyes on such beauty and rises not!
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Oh Allah protect sheikh Ali and all those he loves. And give them Jannah
ameen
I'm 25 minutes in, and Dr. Ataie is explaining Matthew 7. I've been looking into the Khabouris Codex recently, which is a late Aramaic translation of the New Testament. I just find it interesting because of how familiar the Aramaic sounds. And I like to look at how it's translated and what these translations really say, and how they compare to the Greek manuscripts. So I'll quote the same verses Sheikh Ataie read out.
Matthew 7:21-23 (Berean Literal Bible)
Not everyone saying to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of My Father in the heavens.
Many will say to Me in that, the day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons and in your name perform many miracles?'
And then I will declare unto them, 'I never knew you; depart you from Me, those working lawlessness.'
The same verses from the Aramaic Codex:
ܠܳܐ ܗ݈ܘܳܐ ܟ݁ܽܠ ܕ݁ܳܐܡܰܪ ܠܺܝ ܡܳܪܝ ܡܳܪܝ ܥܳܐܶܠ ܠܡܰܠܟ݁ܽܘܬ݂ܳܐ ܕ݁ܰܫܡܰܝܳܐ ܐܶܠܳܐ ܡܰܢ ܕ݁ܥܳܒ݂ܶܕ݂ ܨܶܒ݂ܝܳܢܶܗ ܕ݁ܳܐܒ݂ܝ ܕ݁ܒ݂ܰܫܡܰܝܳܐ
lā hwāyh kullā d'amar liy mārē mārē a'leh l-malḵūṯā 'ašmayyā ila man 'abbed ṣi'eḇyānā 'abbā bi'ašmayyā (transliteration)
not will be [allowed] any proclaims to [me] master master [to] enter the kingdom [of] heavens but [rather] [one] who serves/works will/desire father in heavens (literal)
None who says to me; "Master, Master" will be allowed to enter the heavenly kingdom {i.e. Paradise}, but rather, [he] who works [to] please [the] Father in [the] heavens. (my interpretation)
ܣܰܓ݁ܺܝܶܐܐ ܢܺܐܡܪܽܘܢ ܠܺܝ ܒ݁ܗܰܘ ܝܰܘܡܳܐ ܡܳܪܝ ܡܳܪܝ ܠܳܐ ܒ݁ܰܫܡܳܟ݂ ܐܶܬ݂ܢܰܒ݁ܺܝܢ ܘܒ݂ܰܫܡܳܟ݂ ܫܺܐܕ݂ܶܐ ܐܰܦ݁ܶܩܢ ܘܒ݂ܰܫܡܳܟ݂ ܚܰܝܠܶܐ ܣܰܓ݁ܺܝܶܐܐ ܥܒ݂ܰܕ݂
śaggī ni'mruwn liy bi'haw yawmā mārē mārē lā bi'ašmāk et-nab'iyn wa bi'ašmāk šēḏā ap'eqn wa bi'ašmāk ḥaylā śaggī b'adn
many proclaim to [me] in that day master master not [?] in your name [we] prophecy and in your name [we] demons expell and in your name mighty/wonders many [we] work
Multitudes will say to me on that Day; "Master, Master, [did] we not prophecy in your name, and exorcise[d] demons in your name, and in your name work many wonders?"
ܘܗܳܝܕ݁ܶܝܢ ܐܰܘܕ݁ܶܐ ܠܗܽܘܢ ܕ݁ܡܶܢ ܡܬ݂ܽܘܡ ܠܳܐ ܝܺܕ݂ܰܥܬ݁ܟ݂ܽܘܢ ܐܰܪܚܶܩܘ ܠܟ݂ܽܘܢ ܡܶܢܝ ܦ݁ܳܠܚܰܝ ܥܰܘܠܳܐ
wǝ hāydēn awd'e 'alhuwn min mṯōm lā yid-a't'kuwn arhhequw liyk,uwn minni p'alhhay awlyā
and declare to from [them] always not (I) acquainted depart [away] from [me] worshipping injustice
And [so] [will I] declare to them; "I never knew you. Depart [away] from [me], [you] serving unrighteousness!"
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The typical translation in English that is oft repeated by Christians deviates from what we find here.
Typical: "Not everyone who says to me: "Lord, Lord", shall.."
Aramaic: lā hwāyh kullā d'amar liy mārē mārē
That doesn't mean "not everyone who says to me", as that translation implies that there are some who do enter Heaven, who say to him "Lord, Lord". The Aramaic here is negating that anyone who says to him "master, master", or "Lord, Lord" will be allowed entrance into Paradise. Kullā before the emphatic 3rd person singular form verb d'amar means; "the whole, the entirety of, all included". So in translation, considering the negation lā, you render this as "none", as in "not any one who says to me". The verb hwāyh also has a legal meaning to it. The speaker is saying that anyone who calls him "Lord, Lord" will be denied access to Jannah, because they (legally) don't deserve it. Mārē can mean "lord", "master", "teacher", but it can also refer to "God", depending on the context. Here, it seems to me that since the one who says to Jesus "lord, lord" is denied access, and this is juxtaposed with the one who will enter paradise, which is he who toils for the sake of God, that it could mean that "Lord, Lord" refers to the supposed divinity of Jesus. The ăḇeḏ or aḇdā is a "slave", and the expression ila man 'abbed means; "but whoever toils hard", as in "to slave", as a verb. Not referring to backbreaking labour in a field, but in a religious sense. Working for what? ṣi'eḇyānā 'abbā, meaning; "to please the Father", or "to do the Father's will". What does God want from you? What do they think pleases Him? It's a reference to obedience of His Sacred revealed Laws. So not just lipservice: "Jesus is Lord!!" That isn't going to cut it. Notice how the first part uses "speech" to describe the frauds, whereas the second group are called "the working (slaves) [of Allah]"?
To work to please God. The expression śaggī ni'mruwn liy implies that these are multitudes: a great many. Multitudes of people will proclaim on the Day of Judgement, reminding Jesus: "Lord, Lord, didn't we prophecy in your name, and didn't we expell demons in your name, and didn't we perform many miracles in your name?" So these actions are not considered as "doing the will of the Father". In other words, God didn't command you to do any of those things, nor does that please Him. And it's certainly problematic to be doing that in the name of a human being or creation of Allah. They literally refer to themselves as doing the work of prophets: et-nab'iyn, which is to predict future events. Notice how these are the ones who call Jesus "Lord, Lord", and they do these things that they're listing as proud achievements in the name of their "Lord Jesus", expecting confirmation and approval, possibly even reward. And what does Jesus tell them in response?
Lā yid-a't'kuwn! "I never knew you!" "I don't recognize you!" "I do not acknowledge this!" Arhhequw liyk,uwn minni! "You distance yourselves away from me!" He doesn't want to be around them. They need to leave. The verb has the meaning of an abomination, as in the proverb "lying lips are God's abomination". There's the meaning of uncleanliness, renunciation, to be far removed. P'alhhay awlyā! "Workers of injustice!" "Worshipping lawlessness". Very harsh language. Look at the Greek:
hoi ergazomenoi tēn anomian
you workers of lawlessness
Meaning that, not only do they not follow the Sacred Law (i.e. the namusa), but they actually promote lawlessness: they work towards that end. The Aramaic even says they're worshipping it, soldiering for it. Jesus doesn't say that they preached a false Gospel. The Good News is that those who enslave themselves to the will of God will have their sins forgiven on that Day. This (religious) nation, however, proudly promotes lawlessness, and they claim to cast out demons in the name of Jesus and all that, but they are not "the slaves of Allah", and so they're actually following in the footsteps of the devils, since it's the devils who want to keep people from obeying God's commandments. James 4:7 makes that very clear in the Aramaic.
Amazing. You should have your own video series on this stuff
Mashallah brother, you are doing a great job of spreading knowledge. However, consider recording this or writing a book. Otherwise, it would be a shame to lose this knowledge.
@@XaeeD very well articulated. The fear of critical research comes from a weak and shaking foundation. That's why I love the Quran, it literally begs you to scrutinize it , to test it, to shake it. This level of confidence draws the souls that want certainty closer to it.
Ma sha Allah
Maasha'Allah Dr Atai
Dear sir, i always loved Rasulullah Isa (alaihi salaam).
But after listening to your lectures my love towards him increased.
May Allah bless you.
Allahumma barik
Takbeer!
Allahu Akbaru Kabeera
And Alhamdulillah Hamdan Katheera
Always a pleasure listening to Dr. Ali. Such a cool Sheikh
Subhanallah this man has an amazing charisma
Allah's gift
I just want to point something out real quick. Dr. Ataie, in the beginning, quotes the verses from Surah Maryam, where Maryam(as) brings the baby to her community, and Eesa(as) addresses the people. He says that these are the first words of Eesa(as). I disagree with that. It's something I noticed when I first read this Surah. It's a subtle thing. And when you look at the commentaries pertaining to the birth, just prior to these ayat, they say that either Eesa(as) spoke to Maryam(as) right after he was born, or that it could've been Jibreel(as) speaking to her. But when I first read this, I immediately noticed that it was Eesa(as) speaking to his mother(as), and not Jibreel(as).
What made me think that (and I still think that), is what's NOT being said to Maryam(as) underneath the date palm tree. The speaker comforts her(as), and tells her to fast and not to speak to the people. Then she(as) returns to her people, and they start questioning her(as) and accusing her(as). So in response to that, "she pointed to the baby". That's it right there. How did she(as) know that the child could speak on her behalf? She(as) wasn't told to do that. So how did she know?
The answer is fairly obvious now. I do believe that Allah informs us of who spoke to her(as) after she gave birth to the child(as), but it's indirect. It's Eesa(as). And that makes sense to me. Not only because it explains how she(as) knew that the baby was going to speak up, but also because her own baby comforts her. He(as) speaks to his mother first and foremost, in private, at a very important moment in her life. Nobody around at this point. It's not the sceptics who are first going to witness a child in the cradle speak, but it's his own beloved mother(as) who's first to witness that miracle.
In conclusion: I can't be 100% sure about this, but it appears that Eesa(as)'s first words were addressing his mother(as). Then after this, he also defends her(as) and silences the sceptics. I'm not sure what Dr. Ataie's going to say about that speech of Eesa(as), but I always found it very interesting, as he's basically addressing certain beliefs that pertain to the Christians in the future. It's like he's refuting certain false ideas concerning him. But that's all I wanted to add here. Allah knows best, of course. Assalaamu aleikum.
Wa'alaykum assalam. Interesting point, ma sha' Allah.
RasoolAllah(SAW) also saw Jesus in Jannah during Isra ul Miraj ❤ so yes, it makes sense that he’s a sahabi 🥰
How can he refer to himself as “not a scholar “? If he isn’t , then who is?
He is a Professor and researcher he s very good at Semitic languages ( Biblical languages and Arabic) also he s a professor of Theology he teaches at Zaytuna College .
Felt like I am in this room
👍💙❤️💚
Feel like I heard Shaykh Hamaza Yusuf laugh in this video
Masha Allah,,, you brother Ali destroyed Christianity and it‘s falsehood,,, I do follow very often your videos,, only a small correction,, in Greek the word κύριος is pronounced ( Kirios ) and not Kurios ,, I am an Albanian Muslim and speak very good Greek ,, May Allah reward you!!! 👍👍👍👍🤝🤝🤝
43:13
Where are these hadith of Isa found? Which books????
I believe he’s quoting from the bible.
Dr Ali Atae are you a geocentrist?
Yes he is
Geocentrism is true