Just for the sake of anyone who's confused. Cunningham's law states that saying something you know is wrong on the internet is the quickest way to get information (because people will spring in to correct you).
I met Scott Adsit once and fangirled, saying he was in one of my all time favorite shows. He was very nice and said something about 30 Rock but when I said it was Moral Orel he stopped everything, asked for my name, and stuck around and talked to me for awhile. It was really lovely to see how much he clearly cared about the project
@@trustytrest Did you just copy what I said because that extra chromosome couldn't zip around fast enough to catch an original idea? Laughing emojis don't make you any less of a strapped down screaming wheelchair child
Unfortunately this means that there was a moment in Orel's life where he was invited into his father's study, got very excited, and then was beaten with a belt.
@@Fredbear185Children should NEVER, NEVER be beaten. If you think abuse is a good thing to do PLEASE never have children. Actually, never even be around them
Either that or it's named like GPU's. Then the next iteration is gonna be the Lust Guard 365™ where you have to pay a subscription or the screen goes transparent
a part of me still hopes that maybe, now that moral orel is starting to blow up and getting popular again, *maybe* netflix or any streaming service could pick this series up again and we could finally get a direct continuation of the story right where we left.. i know that's impossible to happen but i still have hope 😭
It is my personal Cannon that Orel's grandfather does move in with his family after end of the show, and that is why Orel is able to remain uncorrupted. Because in the finale there is no hope, no reason for Orel to remain pure and optimistic and he is clearly losing that part of himself. I like to think that his grandfather then came and was able to guide Orel to understanding that he did not have to honor his father anymore, and could instead simply get out and honor himself instead by giving his children the life he never got to have.
Honestly the show as the years go by it feels like It also expands with how people repeat the acts of the past. Much like boondocks that take satire of the opposite side of the argument really showing that any and all groups need to have a mirror placed over them and show their hypocritical aspects.
I think you failed to mention that dino wanted to make before orel a series. He was no longer interested in continuing seasons 4 and 5. Before Orel was supposed to be the pilot of this spinoff show.
I love beforel Orel, because it’s a pretty accurate depiction of hereditary trauma, and grandparents regretting their actions of treating their own kids badly and trying to “do it over” with grandchildren
I just discovered the shows early this year and it has become one of my favorite shows. I still wish we could see the other episodes that Dino S. had planned before it got cancelled.
I love how you touched on how Orel keeps his faith in the end. I’m a devout Christian who LOVES this show, and I think it covers some absolutely real and important issues within religion. It never says Christianity is bad, throughout the show people twist the Bible for their own gain, and never really teach it. There’s so much hypocrisy exhibited in towns like Orel’s, and I think they show that better than any other show I’ve seen.
Orel is also an overly trusting simpleton. Or worse, he can be quite smart, but chooses not to think, and to let himself be guided by other people. That, in and of itself, is an indictment on religion, religion IS in essence, someone else telling you what and how you should think, and claiming they have divine authority to do so. He's also shown as a rare exception to the rule, and it's his good qualities that allow him to rise above the toxicity making almost everyone else in moralton miserable, not the faith he shares with everyone else. I think it's cool that you can enjoy it anyway, and acknowledge there are problems within your religion that it highlights, but I feel it absolutely, very strongly implies that religion is bad. I feel like denying that kind of distorts it to fit your agenda, which is totally appropriate and on-brand... so...
@@nimbuscloud5175I see where you’re coming from, but the major hole in this argument is that Orel keeps his faith. If the show had been a general bashing of religion, why is it that Orel’s good ending sees him hold onto it? This show is still definitely a heavy criticism of a particular type of Christianity, but it’s specifically the Bible thumping hypocrites the town represents. These people don’t have genuine faith, instead using the concept of God to further their own agendas. They claim to know what God wants, but have not answered besides “God said so”. Religion isn’t the source of the town’s hypocrisy. Clay’s flaws come from a warped value system due to his abuse and his alcoholism, with his “faith” only being a deflection of his own sins. To me, the message of Moral Orel is that Christianity in America is in a sickly state and is abused by terrible people. The solution doesn’t seem to be atheism specifically (Arthur lost his faith and still abused and neglected Clay), but being a good person that able to see through the bullshit of the world, regardless of the faith you follow.
@@irondolphin9387 You're mistaken, that's not a hole in the argument. Morel can absolutely keep his faith, and the show can still show religion in a bad light, those two things are not exclusive. That's what happened, in fact. I've already refuted this point, by saying Morel is good in spite of his faith, not because of it. Nothing about Orel's faith makes him good. Orel is a good person, and also happens to have faith in christianity, he is one of the few. You tacitly agree with me in your last line there, about him being able to see though the bullshit, regardless of his faith. Stephanie is the only reasonable, well-adjusted person in the town, and she's an intentionally tropy atheist. Don't forget her. Athiesm also isn't r responsible for for Arthur being abusive, it isn't a codified ideology. It's not an answer to any kind of philosophical question, it's the (correct, by the way), possition that there's no good, compelling, reality-based reason to believe in a deity, especially not a deity described in any organize religion. So why do I get to say Arthur's actions aren't based on Atheism, but you don't get to say everyone else's actions aren't based on christianity? Well, I'll tell you No True Scotsman, because religion does claim to answer those questions and to have authority to tell you what to do. Atheism just listens to that and says. "I don't believe you, and won't unless you can show me a good reason to."
@@nimbuscloud5175 Yes, Orel keeping his faith and the show criticizing the religious hypocrites of America isn’t mutually exclusive. However, the idea that religion is only for simple minded fools and abusive authority figures is mutually exclusive for Orel’s good ending keeping him a religious man. If the show was simply condemning Christianity as bad, why not simply make Orel an atheist in the end? Orel is not moral in spite of his faith. He is moral in spite of the town. That sounds like a nitpick, but I see it as an important distinction. Many times, Orel gets close to the lessons God teaches, but the town tries tearing it away from him. For instance, Orel meets God and the town rejects his vision because it goes against how they thought God would look like. Stephanie is a great character and her being an atheist and one of the few truly moral characters. However, she is not moral because she is an atheist. She is moral because she is a good person who doesn’t judge others. Arthur is a man without faith and he was abusive and neglectful of Clay. Yes, he didn’t abuse Clay because of atheism, but Clay didn’t abuse Orel because of Christianity. Arthur’s abuse stems from Clay taking his wife from him (both in terms having all of her attention and her actual death) and Clay’s abuse stems from his warped sense of expressing love and his alcoholism. You said I included the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, but I never said they weren’t people who believed in christ. I said they were hypocrites using the faith to further their own ends. I mean, Clay is a violent alcoholic, who engages in extra marital, homosexual affairs, speaks badly of Christ himself and judges everyone else but refuses to atone for any of his sins. The only aspect of faith Clay really maintains is that God is real and only barely. If I call myself a patriot while acting against everything my country stands for, am I really a patriot?
like Orel’s dog is literally Jesus reincarnated but the town executes him for selfish reasons, which pretty easily solidifies the show stands on religion
The more I see moral Orel. The more I love it as I see more and more details and I'm an eagle eyed watcher so the rewatches add more to the cast. The special was probably better on my rewatch as I could see the potential we didn't get from the show being cancelled
I'll just say - I came for the unpacking of Moral Orel, I stayed for your calming voice, way with words and the amazing aura of the video! The original video and the way you've narrated it gave me Stephanie energy haha
Aw thank you so much. That genuinely means a lot. Funny story, I planned on starting my YT channel about 1.5 years before I actually did. Made the audio for a vid about the wheel of time, but I COULD NOT STAND the sound of my own voice so I scrapped it and moved on. So it's great to read comments like these. Makes me realize I may have been a bit too rough on myself 😅
The voice acting recording technique is very interesting. Basically, it looks like the Moral Orel team invented something very similar to how voice recording is done in the anime industry. In Japan, voice actors pretty much always record in a group, with everyone involved in an episode in the same room (though it usually happens standing up). It’s typically understood to add life and interplay to the voices, which helps counteract the stiffness of the limited animation anime has to work with most of the time. It’s interesting but quite reasonable that a similar technique was used in a show where little puppet people were turned into deep, believable characters.
This show is amazing. I was In a very Christian school when I was younger And my parents were diverced since I was born. This show changed my life and without it, I wouldn't have survived. Im glad This show is getting more attention
i think you recapping the story is good for us viewers who have never seen moral orel before your videos. like, maybe not ideal for someone whose watched it beforehand- but i don't care! i'm having fun! that's the point, we aren't in a goddamn classroom
i love the timing of this. for the past few months a lot of other reviews and retrospectives about this show have begun popping up from various other youtubers.
I have to wonder if that fourth season would also expand upon if Grandpa Arthur actually has regrets about how he treated Clay. We don't get that in Beforel, but them living under the same roof would probably have given the right chance to see that. He treats Orel so differently compared to his own son, and I wonder if the estrangement between Clay and Arthur was a part of that.
One thing that I think is of note is that in the flashback Arthur seems to be trying his best to make Clay into a more independent person, but also seems to be jealous of the attention Clay gets from his mother. We can see that he is doing his best and there are many of the makings of a good father but is constantly undermined by his understandably traumatized wife. Then when Clay's neediness takes his wife away from Arthur forever, he can't forgive Clay, and that is where the abuse and neglect begins.
I have a head canon that after Arthur dies and Orel becomes Goth, Clay is drinking even more than usual in celebration of his father’s death and that Orel eventually talks to Stephanie about his loss and grief and she tells him some good advice which is sometimes people do things that are wrong but later change in life and that not believing in God doesn’t make a person “bad” and that they deserve to burn in hell for it. What truly matters is how much that person touched the lives of others through their action. Stephanie then tells Orel that being a goth kid isn’t who he really is and it’s just a phase caused by his grief and that people love him for who he is and not how he dresses. So Orel then goes home to find an angry and annoyed Bloberta scolding Clay for his behavior and Clay sees Orel and says something nasty about Arthur which sets Orel off. Orel then angrily yells at Clay who is now stunned in silence about how he is an awful person for forcing his own dying farther to share a tiny bed with a twelve year old boy instead of getting another bed and that he (Clay) acts like he’s such a victim over the way Arthur had treated him after his mother had died but it was really his [Clay’s] behavior that created the rift between them to grow even bigger. Orel then tells Clay that if he [Clay] was dying, he wouldn’t force him to share a bed with his own son and would have given him his own bed to rest in during his final days because he [Orel] knows that his father deserves to be comfortable in such a time because he’s his father and doesn’t deserve to suffer no matter how badly he has been to him [Orel] and everyone else in his lifetime. This rant would make Clay burst into tears because it’s the truth and would demonstrate that even with his flaws, Orel still has some love for Clay and enough respect to not make him suffer when he needs him the most and Clay secretly acknowledges that he messed up big time with his own father and now there is no way to correct his mistakes or say that he was sorry. Clay of course would still be a drunk jerk but he’d at least try to be a better father to the boys and occasionally acknowledge when he messes up.
Maybe it's one of those masterful comment baits, but I'll bite: Clay coming to get Orel when Bloberta went into labor implies that Orel was on a farm for at least half a year.
It’s pretty strange how I got into the show coincidentally right as everyone else did and it wasn’t bc of tiktok or anything I just decided to finally watch it
I really loved this show I remember watching all seasons when they were coming out and I really wanted more so now that it is getting the recognition it finally deserves I hope the creator can bring it back because this show was really special to me
Give it a year. People are starting to understand more and more. The thing I always like to say now is life is like “a bugs life”. Ever since the internet became a thing I’ve just been seeing the movie unfold SLOW but truly show how it’s the exact same. “Let one stand up they all stand up” post one thing get everyone posting about said thing. Knowing something is simply the most powerful thing not a person can have but the community.
Glad to see you appreciate all the support from the previous video but don't let it cause you stress to make sure your future videos have to live up to your previous ones because what ever you'll make there will always be a audience
I think one thing about Moral Oral I really appreciate is just how much Clay is almost Jealous of Oral's innocence. That same innocence his grandpa saw in him that in his youth blinds Oral to the gray of the world but keeps him uncorrupted by it. Even after the weathering the storm of his childhood with his toxic family, Oral ends the series (spoilers if you haven't finished it and reading this) as a better man, husband and father than his father and Grandfather. Not even any hatred because he still honors his father and mother with a picture on the wall instead of trying to forget them. He's matured more than Clay OR Blowberta had in all their lives, combined.
"Stephanie is a furry." Okay now wait a minute-- Nah, but seriously, it's great seeing people discover this show. I first saw it via a UA-cam video that has clips without context. It was really funny, and aesthetic of claymation was fresh to me since we don't see it often anymore. After watching the in its entirety... Well, it certainly was an experience to say the least. But one I'm going to cherish forever.
I got curious about Moral Orel because of videos like yours (and including yours) that kept getting recommended to me. Finally I watched the videos which inspired me to watch the show for the first time! So thank you for bringing the show to me!!
as i rewatched moral orel again now 30... i relized something massively and the crackes turned into things sharding. i am literally shapey. like i dont wanna get into my birth and life or my mental health but i literally lived that hell without any of the hyjinks tho more forced in a room locked away as a mistake since i wasnt normal enough... 30 years old and still so fucked up and afraid to leave and fearing what may or will happen to the few things i have left in my life and the things ive had since i could remember....... god so much for half my life. the best years. forced in a closet and ill never know thos.
Actually, we are born bad! Babies always go, “I want mommy I want milk, I want to be held I want to be comforted!” That’s not goodness. That’s narcissism!
I really like the way the show looks over this special, it looks "better" sure but I think the way the show proper look really works better for what the show is doing.
Best Moral Orel content on UA-cam. You got all those views 1) cause the video was fire 2) cause there wasn’t any quality MO videos. Now if you look there’s been some uploaded tryna ride your wave.
I’m pretty sure in season 3 episode 1 it’s pretty clearly stated that stopframe never loved bloberta, that he just got with her to get closer to clay. he even outright admits he’s not sorry and doesn’t feel bad
Ayo brilliant video, though I was wondering if you have plans to upload that cover of No Children? I can already tell it's as fantastic as the original
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me that clay and bloberta were still at church consistently, I mean orel seems to even at such a young age have free reign to just run around like how the beginning of the episode he's just with doughy tommy and him seemingly all day, and he casually strolls Shapey to the church in the night time without anyone noticing both puppington kids are gone. To me this moreso implies how severely neglected orel was until clay starts to talk to orel and give him life lessons and his sense of faith
Its my head canon that Arthur treated Orel better than he did Clay because he thought he could have a second chance and try to have Orel grow up right, but he himself has too much pride to admit to Clay that he was wrong.
I came from the first video and i just wanted to say that i never expected this series to be that good. Where i live they only showed the first season on tv and i thought its just a weird edgy cartoon but this is some of the best character analysis i have ever seen.
What makes this show mind blowing to me is the fact that it wasn’t made to where we hate the show. Any other show would probably end with us hating how its handled, but its balance of realism and animation, it tries its best to not be mean-spirited and makes it better
I know the show ended forever ago, but I kinda hope in some way that Orel visited his grandfather again when he's older. We did see Orel with his own family later on, so I hope he brought Grandpa back into his life
Never thought I would hear Christian Dommy Mommy in my life, but here we are. If we don't ever get a Moral Orel reboot (which I feel like could be a really good thing or bad thing), I'm find with the Beforel Orel special. Also I need to find that Moral Orel documentary cause I need to know more!
Wow this is the most entertaining thing I have watched you have a perfect way of describing things and the way you just make your videos the editing is great, and the way u talk dude most soothing voice have ever heard (besides markipliers) anyways keep making vids like this they are amazing
"If i had a nickel for every time someone left that comment about the damn bathtub, i could... throw a lot of fucking nickels at the next person to try it"
I like the recap because I didn't watch the show and while I respect it I never plan to watch it, but I like to know things about art I do not intent to ever watch/ play/read I am strange like that
I know Arthur helped start Clays path, but I also feel he isn’t 100% at fault. Clay was clearly shown to be an attention hog and if he didn’t get attention he hated everyone. If we ever get a sequel some how, I want to see Orel and his kids with Arthur treating him like their grandpa.
What would have been cool is if they did that Season 4 and ended with Orel becoming Spiritual rather than Religious, basically living his life by what his Grampa taught him whilst living a happy life
3:09 it seems that you have reached the powers of the god, you said if so gracefully as I was consuming a plate of spaghetti , drowned in Parmesan, also great video 👍
Listen you said some dumb shit but hold on…Tommy is blonde… In the future when Orel is an adult who’s to say Danny Stopframe didn’t try to get closer to Orel the same way he did Clay? Theres your engagement. Now Orel’s seemingly happy future is filled with the same bright as his father’s.
For anyone wondering, Cunningham’s law states that “Anything that can go wrong will go wrong”
Good to know!
isn't it murphys law??
@@yasthemann lol. Lmao
Just for the sake of anyone who's confused. Cunningham's law states that saying something you know is wrong on the internet is the quickest way to get information (because people will spring in to correct you).
@@DogsandPennies bro omg 😭
I met Scott Adsit once and fangirled, saying he was in one of my all time favorite shows. He was very nice and said something about 30 Rock but when I said it was Moral Orel he stopped everything, asked for my name, and stuck around and talked to me for awhile. It was really lovely to see how much he clearly cared about the project
This makes me really happy to hear. If I'm ever lucky enough to meet him I'll for sure bring up this show!
And then everyone clapped
@@adam_stanheight If someone says it in the comments sections, 9/10 times it's a lie for clout and those sweet updoots
@@Eggly69 Like how you're whining so you can pretend you look smart and get updoots 😂
@@trustytrest Did you just copy what I said because that extra chromosome couldn't zip around fast enough to catch an original idea? Laughing emojis don't make you any less of a strapped down screaming wheelchair child
Unfortunately this means that there was a moment in Orel's life where he was invited into his father's study, got very excited, and then was beaten with a belt.
:(
He's gotta learn somehow 🤷♂
That’s very very disappointing
@@Fredbear185Children should NEVER, NEVER be beaten. If you think abuse is a good thing to do PLEASE never have children. Actually, never even be around them
@@Fredbear185can someone make sure this person isnt legally allowed within a 10 mile radius of any child?
thanks
I love the lines “It starts out innocently enough with little Orel jumping to his near death.”
Did you notice that orel fell in a family guy fall
in about 5 years, Clay and Bloberta went through over 5000 different versions of the Lust Guard. What an immaculate work rate those designers have.
Either that or it's named like GPU's. Then the next iteration is gonna be the Lust Guard 365™ where you have to pay a subscription or the screen goes transparent
@@Meromorphic Will it have a bluetooth speaker?
@@waldornprime5567 And they will be playing audio from videos on orange youtube.
Sounds like apple
a part of me still hopes that maybe, now that moral orel is starting to blow up and getting popular again, *maybe* netflix or any streaming service could pick this series up again and we could finally get a direct continuation of the story right where we left..
i know that's impossible to happen but i still have hope 😭
HBO Max literally already has and owns it.
Maybe Season 4 isn't such a pipedream after all
@@I_Dislike_UA-cam_Handles Isn't HBO Max getting worse though? Like cancelling Infinity Train for example
@@ashy_inking1476 yup, HBO Max has been cancelling some really good animated shows
channel 4 has!
It is my personal Cannon that Orel's grandfather does move in with his family after end of the show, and that is why Orel is able to remain uncorrupted. Because in the finale there is no hope, no reason for Orel to remain pure and optimistic and he is clearly losing that part of himself. I like to think that his grandfather then came and was able to guide Orel to understanding that he did not have to honor his father anymore, and could instead simply get out and honor himself instead by giving his children the life he never got to have.
Same!! Along with people like Stephanie as well. Perhaps even Coach Stopframe in a weird way based on the finale.
Honestly the show as the years go by it feels like It also expands with how people repeat the acts of the past. Much like boondocks that take satire of the opposite side of the argument really showing that any and all groups need to have a mirror placed over them and show their hypocritical aspects.
🎶 Generational trauma 🎶
I think you failed to mention that dino wanted to make before orel a series. He was no longer interested in continuing seasons 4 and 5. Before Orel was supposed to be the pilot of this spinoff show.
Interesting. It makes sense. But I did not run into that fact when I was making this.
@@Meromorphic it's okay. thank you so much for making this video!!!
I love beforel Orel, because it’s a pretty accurate depiction of hereditary trauma, and grandparents regretting their actions of treating their own kids badly and trying to “do it over” with grandchildren
0:04 that kid with the red hair never gets his name LMAO 😭😭
I just discovered the shows early this year and it has become one of my favorite shows. I still wish we could see the other episodes that Dino S. had planned before it got cancelled.
Hopefully Moral Orel's new popularity will make that a possibility! A lot of cancelled shows are getting continued nowadays...
I love how you touched on how Orel keeps his faith in the end. I’m a devout Christian who LOVES this show, and I think it covers some absolutely real and important issues within religion. It never says Christianity is bad, throughout the show people twist the Bible for their own gain, and never really teach it. There’s so much hypocrisy exhibited in towns like Orel’s, and I think they show that better than any other show I’ve seen.
Orel is also an overly trusting simpleton. Or worse, he can be quite smart, but chooses not to think, and to let himself be guided by other people. That, in and of itself, is an indictment on religion, religion IS in essence, someone else telling you what and how you should think, and claiming they have divine authority to do so.
He's also shown as a rare exception to the rule, and it's his good qualities that allow him to rise above the toxicity making almost everyone else in moralton miserable, not the faith he shares with everyone else.
I think it's cool that you can enjoy it anyway, and acknowledge there are problems within your religion that it highlights, but I feel it absolutely, very strongly implies that religion is bad. I feel like denying that kind of distorts it to fit your agenda, which is totally appropriate and on-brand... so...
@@nimbuscloud5175I see where you’re coming from, but the major hole in this argument is that Orel keeps his faith. If the show had been a general bashing of religion, why is it that Orel’s good ending sees him hold onto it?
This show is still definitely a heavy criticism of a particular type of Christianity, but it’s specifically the Bible thumping hypocrites the town represents. These people don’t have genuine faith, instead using the concept of God to further their own agendas. They claim to know what God wants, but have not answered besides “God said so”. Religion isn’t the source of the town’s hypocrisy. Clay’s flaws come from a warped value system due to his abuse and his alcoholism, with his “faith” only being a deflection of his own sins.
To me, the message of Moral Orel is that Christianity in America is in a sickly state and is abused by terrible people. The solution doesn’t seem to be atheism specifically (Arthur lost his faith and still abused and neglected Clay), but being a good person that able to see through the bullshit of the world, regardless of the faith you follow.
@@irondolphin9387 You're mistaken, that's not a hole in the argument. Morel can absolutely keep his faith, and the show can still show religion in a bad light, those two things are not exclusive. That's what happened, in fact. I've already refuted this point, by saying Morel is good in spite of his faith, not because of it. Nothing about Orel's faith makes him good. Orel is a good person, and also happens to have faith in christianity, he is one of the few.
You tacitly agree with me in your last line there, about him being able to see though the bullshit, regardless of his faith.
Stephanie is the only reasonable, well-adjusted person in the town, and she's an intentionally tropy atheist. Don't forget her. Athiesm also isn't r responsible for for Arthur being abusive, it isn't a codified ideology. It's not an answer to any kind of philosophical question, it's the (correct, by the way), possition that there's no good, compelling, reality-based reason to believe in a deity, especially not a deity described in any organize religion.
So why do I get to say Arthur's actions aren't based on Atheism, but you don't get to say everyone else's actions aren't based on christianity? Well, I'll tell you No True Scotsman, because religion does claim to answer those questions and to have authority to tell you what to do. Atheism just listens to that and says. "I don't believe you, and won't unless you can show me a good reason to."
@@nimbuscloud5175 Yes, Orel keeping his faith and the show criticizing the religious hypocrites of America isn’t mutually exclusive. However, the idea that religion is only for simple minded fools and abusive authority figures is mutually exclusive for Orel’s good ending keeping him a religious man. If the show was simply condemning Christianity as bad, why not simply make Orel an atheist in the end?
Orel is not moral in spite of his faith. He is moral in spite of the town. That sounds like a nitpick, but I see it as an important distinction. Many times, Orel gets close to the lessons God teaches, but the town tries tearing it away from him. For instance, Orel meets God and the town rejects his vision because it goes against how they thought God would look like.
Stephanie is a great character and her being an atheist and one of the few truly moral characters. However, she is not moral because she is an atheist. She is moral because she is a good person who doesn’t judge others. Arthur is a man without faith and he was abusive and neglectful of Clay. Yes, he didn’t abuse Clay because of atheism, but Clay didn’t abuse Orel because of Christianity. Arthur’s abuse stems from Clay taking his wife from him (both in terms having all of her attention and her actual death) and Clay’s abuse stems from his warped sense of expressing love and his alcoholism.
You said I included the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, but I never said they weren’t people who believed in christ. I said they were hypocrites using the faith to further their own ends. I mean, Clay is a violent alcoholic, who engages in extra marital, homosexual affairs, speaks badly of Christ himself and judges everyone else but refuses to atone for any of his sins. The only aspect of faith Clay really maintains is that God is real and only barely. If I call myself a patriot while acting against everything my country stands for, am I really a patriot?
like Orel’s dog is literally Jesus reincarnated but the town executes him for selfish reasons, which pretty easily solidifies the show stands on religion
The more I see moral Orel. The more I love it as I see more and more details and I'm an eagle eyed watcher so the rewatches add more to the cast.
The special was probably better on my rewatch as I could see the potential we didn't get from the show being cancelled
I think Stopframe was trying to cause more tension in Clay's marriage to split them up, and it works out sorta
I'll just say - I came for the unpacking of Moral Orel, I stayed for your calming voice, way with words and the amazing aura of the video! The original video and the way you've narrated it gave me Stephanie energy haha
Aw thank you so much. That genuinely means a lot. Funny story, I planned on starting my YT channel about 1.5 years before I actually did. Made the audio for a vid about the wheel of time, but I COULD NOT STAND the sound of my own voice so I scrapped it and moved on. So it's great to read comments like these. Makes me realize I may have been a bit too rough on myself 😅
I really love how everytime Meromorphic says Dino’s name, he pronounces his last name differently
The voice acting recording technique is very interesting. Basically, it looks like the Moral Orel team invented something very similar to how voice recording is done in the anime industry. In Japan, voice actors pretty much always record in a group, with everyone involved in an episode in the same room (though it usually happens standing up). It’s typically understood to add life and interplay to the voices, which helps counteract the stiffness of the limited animation anime has to work with most of the time. It’s interesting but quite reasonable that a similar technique was used in a show where little puppet people were turned into deep, believable characters.
I remember this special having Orel’s actress slip into her Sandy Cheeks voice, and it made me laugh.
This show is amazing.
I was In a very Christian school when I was younger
And my parents were diverced since I was born.
This show changed my life and without it, I wouldn't have survived. Im glad This show is getting more attention
i think you recapping the story is good for us viewers who have never seen moral orel before your videos. like, maybe not ideal for someone whose watched it beforehand- but i don't care! i'm having fun! that's the point, we aren't in a goddamn classroom
Are you going to watch it?
If you can handle its subject matter, then I'd say watching it is still worth doing, even if you know what happens in it.
i love the timing of this. for the past few months a lot of other reviews and retrospectives about this show have begun popping up from various other youtubers.
I have to wonder if that fourth season would also expand upon if Grandpa Arthur actually has regrets about how he treated Clay. We don't get that in Beforel, but them living under the same roof would probably have given the right chance to see that. He treats Orel so differently compared to his own son, and I wonder if the estrangement between Clay and Arthur was a part of that.
I really wanted to see Arthur apologizing to Clay. Season 4 wouldve been awesome :(
@@bluetea8181 idk Clay did kill his mom cuz she wasnt giving him her completely attention.
@@Kris-wo4pj yeah but it would be nice to show how arthur IS better than clay, cause he changed, while clay stayed the way he was when he was younger
One thing that I think is of note is that in the flashback Arthur seems to be trying his best to make Clay into a more independent person, but also seems to be jealous of the attention Clay gets from his mother. We can see that he is doing his best and there are many of the makings of a good father but is constantly undermined by his understandably traumatized wife. Then when Clay's neediness takes his wife away from Arthur forever, he can't forgive Clay, and that is where the abuse and neglect begins.
I have a head canon that after Arthur dies and Orel becomes Goth, Clay is drinking even more than usual in celebration of his father’s death and that Orel eventually talks to Stephanie about his loss and grief and she tells him some good advice which is sometimes people do things that are wrong but later change in life and that not believing in God doesn’t make a person “bad” and that they deserve to burn in hell for it. What truly matters is how much that person touched the lives of others through their action. Stephanie then tells Orel that being a goth kid isn’t who he really is and it’s just a phase caused by his grief and that people love him for who he is and not how he dresses. So Orel then goes home to find an angry and annoyed Bloberta scolding Clay for his behavior and Clay sees Orel and says something nasty about Arthur which sets Orel off. Orel then angrily yells at Clay who is now stunned in silence about how he is an awful person for forcing his own dying farther to share a tiny bed with a twelve year old boy instead of getting another bed and that he (Clay) acts like he’s such a victim over the way Arthur had treated him after his mother had died but it was really his [Clay’s] behavior that created the rift between them to grow even bigger. Orel then tells Clay that if he [Clay] was dying, he wouldn’t force him to share a bed with his own son and would have given him his own bed to rest in during his final days because he [Orel] knows that his father deserves to be comfortable in such a time because he’s his father and doesn’t deserve to suffer no matter how badly he has been to him [Orel] and everyone else in his lifetime. This rant would make Clay burst into tears because it’s the truth and would demonstrate that even with his flaws, Orel still has some love for Clay and enough respect to not make him suffer when he needs him the most and Clay secretly acknowledges that he messed up big time with his own father and now there is no way to correct his mistakes or say that he was sorry. Clay of course would still be a drunk jerk but he’d at least try to be a better father to the boys and occasionally acknowledge when he messes up.
I mean your hereditary unpacking was also great. You have an excellent eye for media analysis and critque
Maybe it's one of those masterful comment baits, but I'll bite: Clay coming to get Orel when Bloberta went into labor implies that Orel was on a farm for at least half a year.
It was not. Damn I totally missed that
It’s pretty strange how I got into the show coincidentally right as everyone else did and it wasn’t bc of tiktok or anything I just decided to finally watch it
I really loved this show I remember watching all seasons when they were coming out and I really wanted more so now that it is getting the recognition it finally deserves I hope the creator can bring it back because this show was really special to me
14:33 DUDE THAT CRACKED ME UP SO BAD 💀 I usually never comment on videos but your content is absolutely wonderful!
I hope this revivals the series, it's a good show.
Give it a year. People are starting to understand more and more. The thing I always like to say now is life is like “a bugs life”. Ever since the internet became a thing I’ve just been seeing the movie unfold SLOW but truly show how it’s the exact same. “Let one stand up they all stand up” post one thing get everyone posting about said thing. Knowing something is simply the most powerful thing not a person can have but the community.
Glad to see you appreciate all the support from the previous video but don't let it cause you stress to make sure your future videos have to live up to your previous ones because what ever you'll make there will always be a audience
That video has made me so happy and I’m glad to see there’s more!
I dont know where the clip of the woman in lolita fashion going "how dare you"" comes from but i love her and i love you for using that
That is the wonderful Contrapoints as a catgirl lol. From this very site. I highly recommend her! Also, thank you so much!
It's a breath of fresh air to hear someone not censoring swears for UA-cam
I think one thing about Moral Oral I really appreciate is just how much Clay is almost Jealous of Oral's innocence. That same innocence his grandpa saw in him that in his youth blinds Oral to the gray of the world but keeps him uncorrupted by it. Even after the weathering the storm of his childhood with his toxic family, Oral ends the series (spoilers if you haven't finished it and reading this) as a better man, husband and father than his father and Grandfather. Not even any hatred because he still honors his father and mother with a picture on the wall instead of trying to forget them. He's matured more than Clay OR Blowberta had in all their lives, combined.
"Stephanie is a furry." Okay now wait a minute--
Nah, but seriously, it's great seeing people discover this show. I first saw it via a UA-cam video that has clips without context. It was really funny, and aesthetic of claymation was fresh to me since we don't see it often anymore. After watching the in its entirety... Well, it certainly was an experience to say the least. But one I'm going to cherish forever.
I got curious about Moral Orel because of videos like yours (and including yours) that kept getting recommended to me. Finally I watched the videos which inspired me to watch the show for the first time! So thank you for bringing the show to me!!
as i rewatched moral orel again now 30... i relized something massively and the crackes turned into things sharding. i am literally shapey. like i dont wanna get into my birth and life or my mental health but i literally lived that hell without any of the hyjinks tho more forced in a room locked away as a mistake since i wasnt normal enough... 30 years old and still so fucked up and afraid to leave and fearing what may or will happen to the few things i have left in my life and the things ive had since i could remember....... god so much for half my life. the best years. forced in a closet and ill never know thos.
3:28 imagine naming your kid "the episode starts out innocently enough"
Actually, we are born bad! Babies always go, “I want mommy I want milk, I want to be held I want to be comforted!”
That’s not goodness. That’s narcissism!
bestie are you really quoting prager u right now?
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How else am I going to cope?
I really like the way the show looks over this special, it looks "better" sure but I think the way the show proper look really works better for what the show is doing.
Best Moral Orel content on UA-cam. You got all those views 1) cause the video was fire 2) cause there wasn’t any quality MO videos. Now if you look there’s been some uploaded tryna ride your wave.
Aw thanks my dude. You rock
Half a year later I'm back for more
i'm here because it seems that youtube's algorithm blessed you the first time and now again on my feed. i wish you continued luck.
Thank you very much. Been getting a lot of rude comments today 😐 so this is really nice to read. Have a good night!
This was actually the first episode I ever saw. I remember it being on adult swim during a sleepover in 2012.
I wasn't expecting a contrapoints reference in this video but I'm absolutely delighted none the same
This show makes me cry. Lots of reflections. Very cathartic though.
Stephine is definitely a furry. Her fursona is a goth bat.
Please don't shoot me haha
the coach was hoping to use the mom to get a kid i.e. the mom leaves and him and the dad would be able to raise the kids together
Yes I think this is most likely his thought process
Please never stop making videos!! They're the best thing to watch on a sleepy afternoon
Calling Ms CensoredAll Dommy Mommy was like my version of a sleeper agent awakening
I watched your first video covering Orel again yesterday, it was great again. Thanks for taking the time to cover this series the way you do.
Thank you for introducing to this show, I never expected to love this show so much, I now quote the show without anyone knowing what I’m talking about
I’m pretty sure in season 3 episode 1 it’s pretty clearly stated that stopframe never loved bloberta, that he just got with her to get closer to clay. he even outright admits he’s not sorry and doesn’t feel bad
This guy is the best
This guy thanks you!
agreed!!
I like how they cut off as soon as the unnamed kid was about to say his name
crazy how this show was favored by the algorithm last christmas
Ayo brilliant video, though I was wondering if you have plans to upload that cover of No Children? I can already tell it's as fantastic as the original
Thank you! It's on my soundcloud. There's a link in the description
I enjoy your commentary alot. Your passion comes through.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me that clay and bloberta were still at church consistently, I mean orel seems to even at such a young age have free reign to just run around like how the beginning of the episode he's just with doughy tommy and him seemingly all day, and he casually strolls Shapey to the church in the night time without anyone noticing both puppington kids are gone. To me this moreso implies how severely neglected orel was until clay starts to talk to orel and give him life lessons and his sense of faith
Pretty sure Stopframe is bi-coded in the series. The episode in which Orel becomes a pimp shows him invite an escort (and a dog) to his home
Crazy thing is I didn’t even watch morel orel. I just remembered the tv spots when I was younger so wanted to see what it was about.
I like your recap analysis honestly. It’s an engaging for now
Seeing how Tommy treated Orel when they were young, I don’t feel bad for him in the present anymore💀
I stopped playing destiny to watch UA-cam for a bit and the first video I click on mentions destiny 34 seconds in I can never truly escape can I
The Final Shape is everywhere
Perfect timing just finished part 1
I prefer the look and style of Moral Orel but I do like how modernized Beforel Orel looks.
Oh yeah, and if your reading this, I really liked your Unpacking Moral Orel video. Hope your vids keep getting popular 👍
By far the best line in the entire show is simply orel ssying "What if God is a lie?"
Its my head canon that Arthur treated Orel better than he did Clay because he thought he could have a second chance and try to have Orel grow up right, but he himself has too much pride to admit to Clay that he was wrong.
I’m glad to see this sequel, I loved your original video (:
I came from the first video and i just wanted to say that i never expected this series to be that good. Where i live they only showed the first season on tv and i thought its just a weird edgy cartoon but this is some of the best character analysis i have ever seen.
i think it's a nice little bowtie to wrap things up after the ending
What makes this show mind blowing to me is the fact that it wasn’t made to where we hate the show. Any other show would probably end with us hating how its handled, but its balance of realism and animation, it tries its best to not be mean-spirited and makes it better
i would appreciate more(l) orel videos, but i would love more video essays about old shows or movies like this.
3:32 meromorphic: doughy Tommy and-
Me:you gonna finish that sentance or?
I know the show ended forever ago, but I kinda hope in some way that Orel visited his grandfather again when he's older. We did see Orel with his own family later on, so I hope he brought Grandpa back into his life
Never thought I would hear Christian Dommy Mommy in my life, but here we are.
If we don't ever get a Moral Orel reboot (which I feel like could be a really good thing or bad thing), I'm find with the Beforel Orel special. Also I need to find that Moral Orel documentary cause I need to know more!
Orel was so innocent 😔
I was watching that video while playing gothic and now when I play gothic I cannot forget about that video.
Wow this is the most entertaining thing I have watched you have a perfect way of describing things and the way you just make your videos the editing is great, and the way u talk dude most soothing voice have ever heard (besides markipliers) anyways keep making vids like this they are amazing
3:38 family guy death pose
"If i had a nickel for every time someone left that comment about the damn bathtub, i could... throw a lot of fucking nickels at the next person to try it"
It was the effort you put in
It would’ve been awesome if Orel got to stay with his grandpa instead of going through the messed up relationship in between his family at home
I like the recap because I didn't watch the show and while I respect it I never plan to watch it, but I like to know things about art I do not intent to ever watch/ play/read I am strange like that
here’s to hoping that some studio or streaming service picks it up to finally finish it
I know Arthur helped start Clays path, but I also feel he isn’t 100% at fault. Clay was clearly shown to be an attention hog and if he didn’t get attention he hated everyone. If we ever get a sequel some how, I want to see Orel and his kids with Arthur treating him like their grandpa.
4:14 best part of the vid, by far
I just watched. The other video earlier today and it come s out today
I say, if we all combine together, we can bring moral Orel back to the air I am willing to sell one of my kidneys to get moral Orel back
Maybe you should do some vids on more popular shows. I’d like to watch some of the other content but haven’t seen the shows. Loved this one
What would have been cool is if they did that Season 4 and ended with Orel becoming Spiritual rather than Religious, basically living his life by what his Grampa taught him whilst living a happy life
Sorry I stopped when you said DOMMY MOMMY CENSORDOLL but imma continue because Stephanie is a closeted ICP fan
Orel really did the family guy death pose
Let's just bring up Orel's mini bowlcut.... 😃
Clay definitely killed his mom
3:09 it seems that you have reached the powers of the god, you said if so gracefully as I was consuming a plate of spaghetti , drowned in Parmesan, also great video 👍
Where can I watch this episode? I have seen all the others and really want to see this one too!
HBO max. It's separate from the series. Just look it up on its own
Listen you said some dumb shit but hold on…Tommy is blonde…
In the future when Orel is an adult who’s to say Danny Stopframe didn’t try to get closer to Orel the same way he did Clay?
Theres your engagement. Now Orel’s seemingly happy future is filled with the same bright as his father’s.
There is no such thing as a closeted ICP fan. We don't care what people think of us.