Just for the sake of anyone who's confused. Cunningham's law states that saying something you know is wrong on the internet is the quickest way to get information (because people will spring in to correct you).
Unfortunately this means that there was a moment in Orel's life where he was invited into his father's study, got very excited, and then was beaten with a belt.
@@Fredbear185Children should NEVER, NEVER be beaten. If you think abuse is a good thing to do PLEASE never have children. Actually, never even be around them
I find it odd that nobody mentioned that Orel even as an adult has a picture of his two COMICALLY ABUSIVE PARENTS on his wall DESPITE everything that happeneed with them. Is a testiment to how innocent and pure he was.
It can also be read to a testament of how good hearted he really is at his core, that despite everything his parents have done to him, that he can still unconditionally love them, while not forgetting their past actions. I find it sweet. Sad, but also sweet.
The truth is, speaking from personal experience of abusive parents, you can both love your abusive, garbage parents and still abhor their vile acts. Both can exist at the same time. Now I personally agree with you. My dad was a POS to me my entire childhood and I damn sure won’t be honoring him, but some people still love their parents and honor them despite the damage and trauma they’ve caused. I have no idea how they do it but they do.
So just as clarification for Stopframe, he knocked Bloberta up as a scheme to get Clay to see that she cheated and divorce her, so Stopframe could swoop in and steal Clay. Kinda insane how he manipulated both of them for his own gain just for it to be for nothing in the end. Like, imagine trying that hard to sabotage an already toxic marriage just to turn around and call the whole thing off at the end, leaving everyone involved more broken and alone than before.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are just a tad too quick to forgive Stopframe when he was just as conniving as Clay through most of the show. Just biding his time, waiting for Bloberta’s infidelity to destroy the marriage, all while Shapey is an unwitting victim of it all. Like, I understand that Stopframe ultimately did the right thing by rejecting Clay and forging a better relationship with Orel, but yeah, my man was a jackass for the majority of the show before that.
@@gothicMCRgirl I think it’s because unlike Clay Stopframe realizes that being a piece of shit isn’t getting him any where and finds joy in being a decent person
@@ethanspicer3471 it's still disgusting tho. I could never forgive someone like that. And orel doesn't know what stopframe did, thats why he is so forgiving to him.
Someone did something similar to me once. They got with my ex to make me jealous, ended up making lies up about me to make him hate me. It ended with everyone going their own ways, clearly fucked up due to the shit that happened. They came clean two years later that nothing was true. Me and the guy got back together, and a whole lot of pain could have been avoided
I love how Orel become a loving husband and a father to his family. I'm sad that the show got cancelled just because it went too dark even though at the end, there's always a happy ending during the dark times.
@@armoredman10It's tough because while I empathize with people who have been abused or can't watch certain parts of the show for other reasons, the reality of abuse is why we need shows like Moral Orel to help confront it in the first place. There's people who suffered from abuse who find validation of their experiences and a voice in this show.
I met Scott Adsit once and fangirled, saying he was in one of my all time favorite shows. He was very nice and said something about 30 Rock but when I said it was Moral Orel he stopped everything, asked for my name, and stuck around and talked to me for awhile. It was really lovely to see how much he clearly cared about the project
@@hereniho Did you just copy what I said because that extra chromosome couldn't zip around fast enough to catch an original idea? Laughing emojis don't make you any less of a strapped down screaming wheelchair child
Either that or it's named like GPU's. Then the next iteration is gonna be the Lust Guard 365™ where you have to pay a subscription or the screen goes transparent
Arthur might’ve been part of the reason why Clay turned out to be so bitter and insecure, but it seems like he eventually realized that what he did was wrong (albeit too late). When he finally sees his son again after years of ignoring each other, the first thing Arthur says is, “I blame myself for how you treated Orel.” Furthermore, I think he keeps silent when Clay starts venting his own frustrations because he feels conflicted on how to respond. On one hand, you can see a small hint of guilt as Arthur recalls which memory his son is referring to; but on the other hand, he also sees it as Clay continuing to play the victim when he’s just as much at fault for some of his own shitty decisions.
This happens very often. Grandparents acting nice to grandkids is often them just them trying to wiggle their way into heaven for the terrible things they did to their kids.
And I think Arthur is still in the wrong for not giving Clay a reality check along with some empathy. So much wrong could’ve been avoided had Arthur only acknowledged the pain Clay had endured, and doubled down on not letting him continue the cycle.
@@alfonshedstrom9859Given what the creator said about what the had planned for seasons after 3 with the grandfather being less religious, I doubt this was the reason Arthur was kind to Orel. He seemed to genuinely realize he'd been a piece of shit to his kid and was trying not to fuck up Orel, protecting his innocence on where chickens come from and trying to teach him about lying.
@@alfonshedstrom9859 That's so ironic for you to say that, since Arthur is agnostic, so he doesn't give a single shit about "getting into heaven", he just got wiser and realised what he did wrong.
I sorta thought Coach Stopframe was simply trying to get Clay and Bloberta to divorce. He couldn't be too direct (i.e. get caught banging Bloberta) because I think his plan revolved around being the shoulder for Clay to cry on. He sowed the seeds (heh) of their divorce by intentionally impregnating Bloberta with a child Clay would _know_ wasn't his, but couldn't directly tie back to Stopframe because he cut the affair short. And to be fair, I guess it did almost work.
It is odd and since the true depths of their relationship are kept vague it's hard to say. By all means, it seemed like at the very least an emotional affair. but the show almost all but shows us they could've been in a sexual relationship as well. If you recall the collage of photos of Clay and Daniel having a picnic in the episode "Satan". There was also some shots of them leaving the bar together to another location or coming over to one's house. Plus the almost public gay kiss in "Nesting" which was quite bold in a place like Moralton, but neither seemed to hesitate. So it's like ??? I guess they were doing *something*. So why not just keep doing the affair and keep up the image of the marriage? I guess Stopframe wanted Clay entirely to himself, although it seemed he nearly had that all but in official name??? It's one part of the story I wish had a tiny bit more explaination since it was one of the key reasons the family was fractured and seemingly a big plotpoint.
I remember Stopframe saying something about wanting to be closer to Clay when it was called out by him. So it's either he was trying to break up his marriage or the fact that Boberta had a child with clay made him feel like they'd be closer if they both had kids with her? Iike him and Clay having their own little family
It is my personal Cannon that Orel's grandfather does move in with his family after end of the show, and that is why Orel is able to remain uncorrupted. Because in the finale there is no hope, no reason for Orel to remain pure and optimistic and he is clearly losing that part of himself. I like to think that his grandfather then came and was able to guide Orel to understanding that he did not have to honor his father anymore, and could instead simply get out and honor himself instead by giving his children the life he never got to have.
a part of me still hopes that maybe, now that moral orel is starting to blow up and getting popular again, *maybe* netflix or any streaming service could pick this series up again and we could finally get a direct continuation of the story right where we left.. i know that's impossible to happen but i still have hope 😭
Honestly the show as the years go by it feels like It also expands with how people repeat the acts of the past. Much like boondocks that take satire of the opposite side of the argument really showing that any and all groups need to have a mirror placed over them and show their hypocritical aspects.
I watched this show when I was 13, about a year after my parents' divorce, and it changed me so thoroughly that I don't think I would have survived without it. Thanks for going over it so well, you've done a great service to the show and to those of us who needed it
I watched it last year and I was 12 and like damn I relate to Orel so much (other then still being Christian I used to be exactly like him in that way too) like even my dad acts like Clay so after nature I was crying so much
I watched it when I was thirteen as well, two years after my dad died (my mom and him would divorce anyways if they stayed together since they were extremely toxic)
I was 12 going on 13 in 2009 when I first watched the show and the first one I watched was unfortunately the "God's Chef" episode. I think it's funny in some parts but it was a strange experience for a first impression. And little did I know, I'd be going down a rabbit hole into a series that got darker as it went on as I'd watch some episodes randomly and not in order (it's been so long and i remember not watching all episodes when i was younger) Turn the other cheek has always been my favorite episode. I remember when beforel orel came out when I was in my second year of high school. I was excited and I was hoping for more episodes (that unfortunately never happened). I watched the show again in 2022 when I saw a lot of people making videos on it out of the blue. I watched all episodes in order during my break at work or when I'm at home in order to reintroduce myself to the show I forgot was a thing at some point. It makes me sad it got canceled the way it did and I wish we had more episodes that gave us a deep dive/backstory on every single character in moralton. One can only hope that can happen someday.
I love beforel Orel, because it’s a pretty accurate depiction of hereditary trauma, and grandparents regretting their actions of treating their own kids badly and trying to “do it over” with grandchildren
I think you failed to mention that dino wanted to make before orel a series. He was no longer interested in continuing seasons 4 and 5. Before Orel was supposed to be the pilot of this spinoff show.
@@expwnged there was a previous argument on a different thread where this fella called this show not a comedy. And subsequently that adult swim wasn’t a comedy network. I was adamant in disproving that.
I'll call out the logic I see happening in real life with Grandpa Arthur. He knew he messed up with his son and hates him, but not Orel. It might be because Grandpa Arthur had a grudge with Clay, with his child, but none with his actual grandchild so he turns into a decent grandparent. There are lots of cases where granparents were absolutely abusive or terrible people to their kids but by the time the next generation is here, they turn into more understanding people. Being alone for so long gives themtime for some serious reflection, as well as the fact that age usually begets wisdom .My mom says 'Sometimes, they just chill out with old age'. My take is it might also be the crippling, existential dread that comes with aging and dying all alone or the more progressive geenration now calling out grandparents on their bullshit and forcing them to confront their awful behaviour. Despite the problems with their children who are now adults, children are more innocent and adorable so there are times where their grudges don't carry over into the next generation.
i feel like it's the very simple fact that grandparents, even involved, aren't as responsible for raising their grandkids so there's much less frustration generated with them. Which is also why it's so much easier to be cool uncle/aunt/etc. E.G. when a child constantly screams an exhausted parent wants to find the fastest method to shut them up (which often ends up as physical abuse), rather than contemplate WHY that child screams and try to resolve it in a way that satisfies both child and the parent (children are irrational, their worries insignificant, why should I care?). A grandpa that lives in a faraway farm is energetic enough to take some time trying to find the solution.
I love how you touched on how Orel keeps his faith in the end. I’m a devout Christian who LOVES this show, and I think it covers some absolutely real and important issues within religion. It never says Christianity is bad, throughout the show people twist the Bible for their own gain, and never really teach it. There’s so much hypocrisy exhibited in towns like Orel’s, and I think they show that better than any other show I’ve seen.
Orel is also an overly trusting simpleton. Or worse, he can be quite smart, but chooses not to think, and to let himself be guided by other people. That, in and of itself, is an indictment on religion, religion IS in essence, someone else telling you what and how you should think, and claiming they have divine authority to do so. He's also shown as a rare exception to the rule, and it's his good qualities that allow him to rise above the toxicity making almost everyone else in moralton miserable, not the faith he shares with everyone else. I think it's cool that you can enjoy it anyway, and acknowledge there are problems within your religion that it highlights, but I feel it absolutely, very strongly implies that religion is bad. I feel like denying that kind of distorts it to fit your agenda, which is totally appropriate and on-brand... so...
@@nimbuscloud5175I see where you’re coming from, but the major hole in this argument is that Orel keeps his faith. If the show had been a general bashing of religion, why is it that Orel’s good ending sees him hold onto it? This show is still definitely a heavy criticism of a particular type of Christianity, but it’s specifically the Bible thumping hypocrites the town represents. These people don’t have genuine faith, instead using the concept of God to further their own agendas. They claim to know what God wants, but have not answered besides “God said so”. Religion isn’t the source of the town’s hypocrisy. Clay’s flaws come from a warped value system due to his abuse and his alcoholism, with his “faith” only being a deflection of his own sins. To me, the message of Moral Orel is that Christianity in America is in a sickly state and is abused by terrible people. The solution doesn’t seem to be atheism specifically (Arthur lost his faith and still abused and neglected Clay), but being a good person that able to see through the bullshit of the world, regardless of the faith you follow.
@@irondolphin9387 You're mistaken, that's not a hole in the argument. Morel can absolutely keep his faith, and the show can still show religion in a bad light, those two things are not exclusive. That's what happened, in fact. I've already refuted this point, by saying Morel is good in spite of his faith, not because of it. Nothing about Orel's faith makes him good. Orel is a good person, and also happens to have faith in christianity, he is one of the few. You tacitly agree with me in your last line there, about him being able to see though the bullshit, regardless of his faith. Stephanie is the only reasonable, well-adjusted person in the town, and she's an intentionally tropy atheist. Don't forget her. Athiesm also isn't r responsible for for Arthur being abusive, it isn't a codified ideology. It's not an answer to any kind of philosophical question, it's the (correct, by the way), possition that there's no good, compelling, reality-based reason to believe in a deity, especially not a deity described in any organize religion. So why do I get to say Arthur's actions aren't based on Atheism, but you don't get to say everyone else's actions aren't based on christianity? Well, I'll tell you No True Scotsman, because religion does claim to answer those questions and to have authority to tell you what to do. Atheism just listens to that and says. "I don't believe you, and won't unless you can show me a good reason to."
@@nimbuscloud5175 Yes, Orel keeping his faith and the show criticizing the religious hypocrites of America isn’t mutually exclusive. However, the idea that religion is only for simple minded fools and abusive authority figures is mutually exclusive for Orel’s good ending keeping him a religious man. If the show was simply condemning Christianity as bad, why not simply make Orel an atheist in the end? Orel is not moral in spite of his faith. He is moral in spite of the town. That sounds like a nitpick, but I see it as an important distinction. Many times, Orel gets close to the lessons God teaches, but the town tries tearing it away from him. For instance, Orel meets God and the town rejects his vision because it goes against how they thought God would look like. Stephanie is a great character and her being an atheist and one of the few truly moral characters. However, she is not moral because she is an atheist. She is moral because she is a good person who doesn’t judge others. Arthur is a man without faith and he was abusive and neglectful of Clay. Yes, he didn’t abuse Clay because of atheism, but Clay didn’t abuse Orel because of Christianity. Arthur’s abuse stems from Clay taking his wife from him (both in terms having all of her attention and her actual death) and Clay’s abuse stems from his warped sense of expressing love and his alcoholism. You said I included the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, but I never said they weren’t people who believed in christ. I said they were hypocrites using the faith to further their own ends. I mean, Clay is a violent alcoholic, who engages in extra marital, homosexual affairs, speaks badly of Christ himself and judges everyone else but refuses to atone for any of his sins. The only aspect of faith Clay really maintains is that God is real and only barely. If I call myself a patriot while acting against everything my country stands for, am I really a patriot?
like Orel’s dog is literally Jesus reincarnated but the town executes him for selfish reasons, which pretty easily solidifies the show stands on religion
I just discovered the shows early this year and it has become one of my favorite shows. I still wish we could see the other episodes that Dino S. had planned before it got cancelled.
The more I see moral Orel. The more I love it as I see more and more details and I'm an eagle eyed watcher so the rewatches add more to the cast. The special was probably better on my rewatch as I could see the potential we didn't get from the show being cancelled
i got back into the show a few years ago and was really concerned about it blowing up because the show could be taken the wrong way, but thankfully its been taken just an dan wanted it. you did a great job on the last video and this one is even better!
Personal headcanon ☝ Coach Stopframe got Bloberta pregnant, hoping that Clay would realize she cheated, and divorce her. Then, the coach could cozy up to Clay and be his partner.
Orel's grandfather became such a Chad after being instrumental in Clay's downfall. I really don't like how we never got those last seasons because he was going to have a major role in them.
i suspect clay would have been screwed up even if his father was nice to him. Clay was 'mommy's most special-est miracle baby' and had 8 years of being gorged on attention. In the visuals you can see that clay is happy when his dad hits him, and was hurt emotionally when his dad decided he "wasn't worth it". In Clays mind attention is love. when people stop paying attention to him, or god forbid he has to shell out attention on someone else, he views it as people no longer loving him. In clays damaged psyche Arthur having a normal father/son relationship would have been "neglect". or at least, thats my theory.
I'll just say - I came for the unpacking of Moral Orel, I stayed for your calming voice, way with words and the amazing aura of the video! The original video and the way you've narrated it gave me Stephanie energy haha
Aw thank you so much. That genuinely means a lot. Funny story, I planned on starting my YT channel about 1.5 years before I actually did. Made the audio for a vid about the wheel of time, but I COULD NOT STAND the sound of my own voice so I scrapped it and moved on. So it's great to read comments like these. Makes me realize I may have been a bit too rough on myself 😅
I love how you said some people think this is atheist propaganda when the very end of moral Orel ends in a happy religious family and it’s a wholesome ending not a continuance of the abuse
The voice acting recording technique is very interesting. Basically, it looks like the Moral Orel team invented something very similar to how voice recording is done in the anime industry. In Japan, voice actors pretty much always record in a group, with everyone involved in an episode in the same room (though it usually happens standing up). It’s typically understood to add life and interplay to the voices, which helps counteract the stiffness of the limited animation anime has to work with most of the time. It’s interesting but quite reasonable that a similar technique was used in a show where little puppet people were turned into deep, believable characters.
This show is amazing. I was In a very Christian school when I was younger And my parents were diverced since I was born. This show changed my life and without it, I wouldn't have survived. Im glad This show is getting more attention
As a person who loves nothing more than to watch hours-long analyses of media I’ve never engaged with, summarizing every episode in your videos is so 👌🏻👌🏻
I love the running gag of the 4th guy in orel's friend group never saying his name "Wanna hangout with doughy me and him?" "Oh look its doughy Tommy and the gang" "Hi im-" "Hey we're all meeting for the 1st time"
This show as a whole was something truly truly special to me. I experienced abuse within my house, thankfully my mother was and has always been a support but not always perfect she still loved me. My mimi was also a huge escape from my house as well. I wish I got to see moral orel the way it was intended. I wanted to see Orel get that escape, like I did. I related a lot to Orel, to the women of Moralton, and even questioning my own beliefs. I grew up in a catholic household, a very strict one where it was even skewed to their favor. Fast forward, I met my boyfriend and he helped me escape my toxic household. 15 years of my life my dad was an alcoholic, and he was very much like Clay except not gay and very racist. I related to Orel so much when he was finding reasons to honor his father because I still do the same thing. Even when my father became sober, he still acted like that drunk but more tame and less physically violent. I tried to reconnect with my father and it never really worked out. Becuase you can't change people who don't want to change. As much as they tell you what happened to them as kids to explain away why they're the way they are. As much as they beg you to write what they should chage themselves. They never do. I'm so happy in my life I live now, I'm finally able to be free now. In short, this show is important to me, and I wish it never got the plug pulled so soon. I definitely would've cried harder at the end. The ending to me at least felt bittersweet. I was happy that Orel escaped his toxic household like I did, but I wanted to see the process so much. To know that I'm not alone with my trauma, that many others like me relate to this show. And it's beautiful to me. I love seeing everyone's commentary or comments about this show. I watched this show becuase of your first video, and I wanted to thank you for it. I needed to see something like this. I'm sorry about the essay but this show means so so much to me. Thank you again for making your 1st video. Keep it up.
i love the timing of this. for the past few months a lot of other reviews and retrospectives about this show have begun popping up from various other youtubers.
Maybe it's one of those masterful comment baits, but I'll bite: Clay coming to get Orel when Bloberta went into labor implies that Orel was on a farm for at least half a year.
6:50 that's orel's voice actor Carolyn Lawrence idk why she's blurred it might be due to privacy reasons as she does the voice of sandy on spongebob but idk it's just speculation
i think you recapping the story is good for us viewers who have never seen moral orel before your videos. like, maybe not ideal for someone whose watched it beforehand- but i don't care! i'm having fun! that's the point, we aren't in a goddamn classroom
@@user-ky9qh5ld5q Hulu and Netflix constantly rebooting old shows and bringing them back especially with moral orels sudden jump in popularity it’s bound to happen
I have to wonder if that fourth season would also expand upon if Grandpa Arthur actually has regrets about how he treated Clay. We don't get that in Beforel, but them living under the same roof would probably have given the right chance to see that. He treats Orel so differently compared to his own son, and I wonder if the estrangement between Clay and Arthur was a part of that.
One thing that I think is of note is that in the flashback Arthur seems to be trying his best to make Clay into a more independent person, but also seems to be jealous of the attention Clay gets from his mother. We can see that he is doing his best and there are many of the makings of a good father but is constantly undermined by his understandably traumatized wife. Then when Clay's neediness takes his wife away from Arthur forever, he can't forgive Clay, and that is where the abuse and neglect begins.
I have a head canon that after Arthur dies and Orel becomes Goth, Clay is drinking even more than usual in celebration of his father’s death and that Orel eventually talks to Stephanie about his loss and grief and she tells him some good advice which is sometimes people do things that are wrong but later change in life and that not believing in God doesn’t make a person “bad” and that they deserve to burn in hell for it. What truly matters is how much that person touched the lives of others through their action. Stephanie then tells Orel that being a goth kid isn’t who he really is and it’s just a phase caused by his grief and that people love him for who he is and not how he dresses. So Orel then goes home to find an angry and annoyed Bloberta scolding Clay for his behavior and Clay sees Orel and says something nasty about Arthur which sets Orel off. Orel then angrily yells at Clay who is now stunned in silence about how he is an awful person for forcing his own dying farther to share a tiny bed with a twelve year old boy instead of getting another bed and that he (Clay) acts like he’s such a victim over the way Arthur had treated him after his mother had died but it was really his [Clay’s] behavior that created the rift between them to grow even bigger. Orel then tells Clay that if he [Clay] was dying, he wouldn’t force him to share a bed with his own son and would have given him his own bed to rest in during his final days because he [Orel] knows that his father deserves to be comfortable in such a time because he’s his father and doesn’t deserve to suffer no matter how badly he has been to him [Orel] and everyone else in his lifetime. This rant would make Clay burst into tears because it’s the truth and would demonstrate that even with his flaws, Orel still has some love for Clay and enough respect to not make him suffer when he needs him the most and Clay secretly acknowledges that he messed up big time with his own father and now there is no way to correct his mistakes or say that he was sorry. Clay of course would still be a drunk jerk but he’d at least try to be a better father to the boys and occasionally acknowledge when he messes up.
I think one thing about Moral Oral I really appreciate is just how much Clay is almost Jealous of Oral's innocence. That same innocence his grandpa saw in him that in his youth blinds Oral to the gray of the world but keeps him uncorrupted by it. Even after the weathering the storm of his childhood with his toxic family, Oral ends the series (spoilers if you haven't finished it and reading this) as a better man, husband and father than his father and Grandfather. Not even any hatred because he still honors his father and mother with a picture on the wall instead of trying to forget them. He's matured more than Clay OR Blowberta had in all their lives, combined.
It’s pretty strange how I got into the show coincidentally right as everyone else did and it wasn’t bc of tiktok or anything I just decided to finally watch it
I had never heard of the show before your video started playing when I had UA-cam on in the background. Subscribed and now a fan of the show. Thank you!
I stumbled upon your original video and was so intrigued by it that I watched the show alongside it. it was a cool way to watch the show. thanks for your work!
I always wanted to watch Moral Orel but never got around to it. But a few days ago I actually watched Moral Orel (All the episodes) in 3 days. It was pretty deppresing yet funny!
everything about this show is perfect…i love how each action of every character shows more and more of a story. It’s truly a shame that we can’t get more of these characters… i’d love to see grandpa in orels life with his new family
I really loved this show I remember watching all seasons when they were coming out and I really wanted more so now that it is getting the recognition it finally deserves I hope the creator can bring it back because this show was really special to me
After watching your first video on Moral Orel, I watched a few more videos on it, and then binged the show myself over 2 times and I have to say, I’m glad I was introduced to it.
Glad to see you appreciate all the support from the previous video but don't let it cause you stress to make sure your future videos have to live up to your previous ones because what ever you'll make there will always be a audience
Give it a year. People are starting to understand more and more. The thing I always like to say now is life is like “a bugs life”. Ever since the internet became a thing I’ve just been seeing the movie unfold SLOW but truly show how it’s the exact same. “Let one stand up they all stand up” post one thing get everyone posting about said thing. Knowing something is simply the most powerful thing not a person can have but the community.
I got curious about Moral Orel because of videos like yours (and including yours) that kept getting recommended to me. Finally I watched the videos which inspired me to watch the show for the first time! So thank you for bringing the show to me!!
I am ashamed to admit that it took the utterance of the term "angry Christian dommy mommy" for me to finally subscribe. You're a treat. Also how dare you.
I binged this show while I had COVID. I can't tell you why, but it made me feel better? idk, that kind of just... utter familiarity with misery really made it hit different
I put most of the blame for Clay on his mother. She was a pious, enabling, overbearing women that completely neglected Arthur as soon as Clay was born . Since he was her only child, and after a long stream of miscarriages, she spoiled him into an entitled brat. Clay faked his death after he found out that he was not the only child his mother attempted to have and that resulted in his mom dying of a heart attack.
it really sucks that moral orel got cancelled, but the fact hat they gave them one more episode to shoot is just amazing of them. ..still wish they had the whole show back, but i can't do anything about it..
"Stephanie is a furry." Okay now wait a minute-- Nah, but seriously, it's great seeing people discover this show. I first saw it via a UA-cam video that has clips without context. It was really funny, and aesthetic of claymation was fresh to me since we don't see it often anymore. After watching the in its entirety... Well, it certainly was an experience to say the least. But one I'm going to cherish forever.
These two videos were amazing and introduced me to an amazing series. I hope your channel continues to grow. Its kinda insane being introduced to your channel because of your reading of the dark future lore book with it only having a few hundred views and now you've gotten a video with a million. Keep up the great work!
Something I noticed is that nurse bendy has blonde hair. But in the episode "dumb" she said she "just dyed her hair" from black to blonde but in this episode she has blonde hair!
Best Moral Orel content on UA-cam. You got all those views 1) cause the video was fire 2) cause there wasn’t any quality MO videos. Now if you look there’s been some uploaded tryna ride your wave.
Obligatory comment to promote this video onto the algorithm here. But on a much more sincere note I genuinely want to see your channel pop off. Thank you for introducing me to Moral Orel, it's been a genuinely fun and heartbreaking experience to watch. But it wouldn't have been so without the help of your channel. Thank you.
i watch your original moral orel video every day when i have to go to work. something about the combination of mountain goats and the show itself is really scratching an itch in my brain. thanks for your hard work
as i rewatched moral orel again now 30... i relized something massively and the crackes turned into things sharding. i am literally shapey. like i dont wanna get into my birth and life or my mental health but i literally lived that hell without any of the hyjinks tho more forced in a room locked away as a mistake since i wasnt normal enough... 30 years old and still so fucked up and afraid to leave and fearing what may or will happen to the few things i have left in my life and the things ive had since i could remember....... god so much for half my life. the best years. forced in a closet and ill never know thos.
For anyone wondering, Cunningham’s law states that “Anything that can go wrong will go wrong”
Good to know!
isn't it murphys law??
@@yasthemann lol. Lmao
Just for the sake of anyone who's confused. Cunningham's law states that saying something you know is wrong on the internet is the quickest way to get information (because people will spring in to correct you).
@@DogsandPennies bro omg 😭
Unfortunately this means that there was a moment in Orel's life where he was invited into his father's study, got very excited, and then was beaten with a belt.
:(
He's gotta learn somehow 🤷♂
That’s very very disappointing
@@Fredbear185Children should NEVER, NEVER be beaten. If you think abuse is a good thing to do PLEASE never have children. Actually, never even be around them
@@Fredbear185can someone make sure this person isnt legally allowed within a 10 mile radius of any child?
thanks
I find it odd that nobody mentioned that Orel even as an adult has a picture of his two COMICALLY ABUSIVE PARENTS on his wall DESPITE everything that happeneed with them. Is a testiment to how innocent and pure he was.
I think there's also a picture of an adult shapey as a cop hanging above the couch
It can also be read to a testament of how good hearted he really is at his core, that despite everything his parents have done to him, that he can still unconditionally love them, while not forgetting their past actions. I find it sweet. Sad, but also sweet.
The truth is, speaking from personal experience of abusive parents, you can both love your abusive, garbage parents and still abhor their vile acts. Both can exist at the same time. Now I personally agree with you. My dad was a POS to me my entire childhood and I damn sure won’t be honoring him, but some people still love their parents and honor them despite the damage and trauma they’ve caused. I have no idea how they do it but they do.
@garydomaz1849 you ain't alone, being blood is never enough.
Honor thy father and thy mother, he wants to be good even if others aren't
So just as clarification for Stopframe, he knocked Bloberta up as a scheme to get Clay to see that she cheated and divorce her, so Stopframe could swoop in and steal Clay.
Kinda insane how he manipulated both of them for his own gain just for it to be for nothing in the end. Like, imagine trying that hard to sabotage an already toxic marriage just to turn around and call the whole thing off at the end, leaving everyone involved more broken and alone than before.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are just a tad too quick to forgive Stopframe when he was just as conniving as Clay through most of the show. Just biding his time, waiting for Bloberta’s infidelity to destroy the marriage, all while Shapey is an unwitting victim of it all. Like, I understand that Stopframe ultimately did the right thing by rejecting Clay and forging a better relationship with Orel, but yeah, my man was a jackass for the majority of the show before that.
@@gothicMCRgirl I think it’s because unlike Clay Stopframe realizes that being a piece of shit isn’t getting him any where and finds joy in being a decent person
@@ethanspicer3471 it's still disgusting tho. I could never forgive someone like that. And orel doesn't know what stopframe did, thats why he is so forgiving to him.
Sigma Type Grind. I love to see it
Someone did something similar to me once. They got with my ex to make me jealous, ended up making lies up about me to make him hate me. It ended with everyone going their own ways, clearly fucked up due to the shit that happened. They came clean two years later that nothing was true. Me and the guy got back together, and a whole lot of pain could have been avoided
I love how Orel become a loving husband and a father to his family. I'm sad that the show got cancelled just because it went too dark even though at the end, there's always a happy ending during the dark times.
I'm just replying so you can see how much likes you got
@@afellowpotatoyes
After being told exactly **why** Moral Orel was cancelled, it will always leave a permanent distaste in my mouth for adult swim
@@melynn_0355I feel like the show definitely went too far and I don’t blame them for pulling the plug
@@armoredman10It's tough because while I empathize with people who have been abused or can't watch certain parts of the show for other reasons, the reality of abuse is why we need shows like Moral Orel to help confront it in the first place. There's people who suffered from abuse who find validation of their experiences and a voice in this show.
I met Scott Adsit once and fangirled, saying he was in one of my all time favorite shows. He was very nice and said something about 30 Rock but when I said it was Moral Orel he stopped everything, asked for my name, and stuck around and talked to me for awhile. It was really lovely to see how much he clearly cared about the project
This makes me really happy to hear. If I'm ever lucky enough to meet him I'll for sure bring up this show!
And then everyone clapped
@adam_stanheight If someone says it in the comments sections, 9/10 times it's a lie for clout and those sweet updoots
@@Eggly69 Like how you're whining so you can pretend you look smart and get updoots 😂
@@hereniho Did you just copy what I said because that extra chromosome couldn't zip around fast enough to catch an original idea? Laughing emojis don't make you any less of a strapped down screaming wheelchair child
Anyone else notice how Clay just drives up his car on anything, yards sidewalks damn playgrounds, bastard doesn't care. Its just gets me laughing
@Just_a_DHMIS_fan wouldnt surprise me if hes also kinda drunk when he drives
He’s the mayor I’d be crashing into stuff too
in about 5 years, Clay and Bloberta went through over 5000 different versions of the Lust Guard. What an immaculate work rate those designers have.
Either that or it's named like GPU's. Then the next iteration is gonna be the Lust Guard 365™ where you have to pay a subscription or the screen goes transparent
@@Meromorphic Will it have a bluetooth speaker?
@@waldornprime5567 And they will be playing audio from videos on orange youtube.
Sounds like apple
Arthur might’ve been part of the reason why Clay turned out to be so bitter and insecure, but it seems like he eventually realized that what he did was wrong (albeit too late). When he finally sees his son again after years of ignoring each other, the first thing Arthur says is, “I blame myself for how you treated Orel.” Furthermore, I think he keeps silent when Clay starts venting his own frustrations because he feels conflicted on how to respond. On one hand, you can see a small hint of guilt as Arthur recalls which memory his son is referring to; but on the other hand, he also sees it as Clay continuing to play the victim when he’s just as much at fault for some of his own shitty decisions.
“I blame myself for how you treat Orel.” That’s a very narcissistic way of apologizing. Like dude just fucking apologize to your son for being a dick.
This happens very often. Grandparents acting nice to grandkids is often them just them trying to wiggle their way into heaven for the terrible things they did to their kids.
And I think Arthur is still in the wrong for not giving Clay a reality check along with some empathy. So much wrong could’ve been avoided had Arthur only acknowledged the pain Clay had endured, and doubled down on not letting him continue the cycle.
@@alfonshedstrom9859Given what the creator said about what the had planned for seasons after 3 with the grandfather being less religious, I doubt this was the reason Arthur was kind to Orel. He seemed to genuinely realize he'd been a piece of shit to his kid and was trying not to fuck up Orel, protecting his innocence on where chickens come from and trying to teach him about lying.
@@alfonshedstrom9859 That's so ironic for you to say that, since Arthur is agnostic, so he doesn't give a single shit about "getting into heaven", he just got wiser and realised what he did wrong.
I sorta thought Coach Stopframe was simply trying to get Clay and Bloberta to divorce. He couldn't be too direct (i.e. get caught banging Bloberta) because I think his plan revolved around being the shoulder for Clay to cry on. He sowed the seeds (heh) of their divorce by intentionally impregnating Bloberta with a child Clay would _know_ wasn't his, but couldn't directly tie back to Stopframe because he cut the affair short. And to be fair, I guess it did almost work.
It is odd and since the true depths of their relationship are kept vague it's hard to say. By all means, it seemed like at the very least an emotional affair. but the show almost all but shows us they could've been in a sexual relationship as well. If you recall the collage of photos of Clay and Daniel having a picnic in the episode "Satan". There was also some shots of them leaving the bar together to another location or coming over to one's house. Plus the almost public gay kiss in "Nesting" which was quite bold in a place like Moralton, but neither seemed to hesitate. So it's like ??? I guess they were doing *something*.
So why not just keep doing the affair and keep up the image of the marriage? I guess Stopframe wanted Clay entirely to himself, although it seemed he nearly had that all but in official name??? It's one part of the story I wish had a tiny bit more explaination since it was one of the key reasons the family was fractured and seemingly a big plotpoint.
I remember Stopframe saying something about wanting to be closer to Clay when it was called out by him.
So it's either he was trying to break up his marriage or the fact that Boberta had a child with clay made him feel like they'd be closer if they both had kids with her? Iike him and Clay having their own little family
It is my personal Cannon that Orel's grandfather does move in with his family after end of the show, and that is why Orel is able to remain uncorrupted. Because in the finale there is no hope, no reason for Orel to remain pure and optimistic and he is clearly losing that part of himself. I like to think that his grandfather then came and was able to guide Orel to understanding that he did not have to honor his father anymore, and could instead simply get out and honor himself instead by giving his children the life he never got to have.
Same!! Along with people like Stephanie as well. Perhaps even Coach Stopframe in a weird way based on the finale.
I love the lines “It starts out innocently enough with little Orel jumping to his near death.”
Did you notice that orel fell in a family guy fall
a part of me still hopes that maybe, now that moral orel is starting to blow up and getting popular again, *maybe* netflix or any streaming service could pick this series up again and we could finally get a direct continuation of the story right where we left..
i know that's impossible to happen but i still have hope 😭
HBO Max literally already has and owns it.
Maybe Season 4 isn't such a pipedream after all
@@I_Dislike_UA-cam_Handles Isn't HBO Max getting worse though? Like cancelling Infinity Train for example
@@ashy_inking1476 yup, HBO Max has been cancelling some really good animated shows
channel 4 has!
Honestly the show as the years go by it feels like It also expands with how people repeat the acts of the past. Much like boondocks that take satire of the opposite side of the argument really showing that any and all groups need to have a mirror placed over them and show their hypocritical aspects.
🎶 Generational trauma 🎶
I watched this show when I was 13, about a year after my parents' divorce, and it changed me so thoroughly that I don't think I would have survived without it. Thanks for going over it so well, you've done a great service to the show and to those of us who needed it
I watched it last year and I was 12 and like damn I relate to Orel so much (other then still being Christian I used to be exactly like him in that way too) like even my dad acts like Clay so after nature I was crying so much
I watched it when I was thirteen as well, two years after my dad died (my mom and him would divorce anyways if they stayed together since they were extremely toxic)
I was 12 going on 13 in 2009 when I first watched the show and the first one I watched was unfortunately the "God's Chef" episode. I think it's funny in some parts but it was a strange experience for a first impression. And little did I know, I'd be going down a rabbit hole into a series that got darker as it went on as I'd watch some episodes randomly and not in order (it's been so long and i remember not watching all episodes when i was younger) Turn the other cheek has always been my favorite episode. I remember when beforel orel came out when I was in my second year of high school. I was excited and I was hoping for more episodes (that unfortunately never happened). I watched the show again in 2022 when I saw a lot of people making videos on it out of the blue. I watched all episodes in order during my break at work or when I'm at home in order to reintroduce myself to the show I forgot was a thing at some point. It makes me sad it got canceled the way it did and I wish we had more episodes that gave us a deep dive/backstory on every single character in moralton. One can only hope that can happen someday.
stephanie being a furry would be canon , shed have one of those kemono fursuits with the anime eyes
It makes a lot of sense.
Shut up
I'd believe it
I feel like it would be named “cotton candy cat” or something
That is amazing I love it
"Oh, boy! What's a grandpa?" hit hard!🤣🤣
Hands down my favorite line of an episode filled with many greats!
@@Meromorphic It is hilarious!
I love beforel Orel, because it’s a pretty accurate depiction of hereditary trauma, and grandparents regretting their actions of treating their own kids badly and trying to “do it over” with grandchildren
I think you failed to mention that dino wanted to make before orel a series. He was no longer interested in continuing seasons 4 and 5. Before Orel was supposed to be the pilot of this spinoff show.
Interesting. It makes sense. But I did not run into that fact when I was making this.
@@Meromorphic it's okay. thank you so much for making this video!!!
i love the running gag that they never name that buzz cut red haired kid, they just call him "that one" or "him"
The running gag you say? Almost as if it’s always been a comedy??? Almost as if you are completely wrong????? Lol
@@ChefTM i’m not saying the show wasn’t never a comedy, i’m just saying that season 3 was definitely not a comedy (that much)
@@ChefTM comedies (any pretty much anything) can have running gags unless I'm missing something, what point are you trying to convey here
@@expwnged there was a previous argument on a different thread where this fella called this show not a comedy. And subsequently that adult swim wasn’t a comedy network. I was adamant in disproving that.
@@ChefTM ooo okay
the blood in the bathtub orel was in is his friends's blood, not some random baby blood
stephanie is absolutely a furry, look at her. her fursona is a possum that she commissions grunge/punk art of.
i made this comment before finishing the video, but since icp are also furries my point stands. :P
I can 100% belive that to be perfectly honest. And also yeah Violent J from the Insane Clown Posse has a furry daughter who he supports.
@@mariaalacran6233that's so real
People with possum fursonas stink like shit and hate authority but give mad head
Or maybe she just likes possums, not everything is a wierd, degenerate hyperfixation
Touch grass
I'll call out the logic I see happening in real life with Grandpa Arthur. He knew he messed up with his son and hates him, but not Orel. It might be because Grandpa Arthur had a grudge with Clay, with his child, but none with his actual grandchild so he turns into a decent grandparent.
There are lots of cases where granparents were absolutely abusive or terrible people to their kids but by the time the next generation is here, they turn into more understanding people. Being alone for so long gives themtime for some serious reflection, as well as the fact that age usually begets wisdom .My mom says 'Sometimes, they just chill out with old age'.
My take is it might also be the crippling, existential dread that comes with aging and dying all alone or the more progressive geenration now calling out grandparents on their bullshit and forcing them to confront their awful behaviour. Despite the problems with their children who are now adults, children are more innocent and adorable so there are times where their grudges don't carry over into the next generation.
As a grandchild this show is so real.
i feel like it's the very simple fact that grandparents, even involved, aren't as responsible for raising their grandkids so there's much less frustration generated with them. Which is also why it's so much easier to be cool uncle/aunt/etc.
E.G. when a child constantly screams an exhausted parent wants to find the fastest method to shut them up (which often ends up as physical abuse), rather than contemplate WHY that child screams and try to resolve it in a way that satisfies both child and the parent (children are irrational, their worries insignificant, why should I care?). A grandpa that lives in a faraway farm is energetic enough to take some time trying to find the solution.
I love how you touched on how Orel keeps his faith in the end. I’m a devout Christian who LOVES this show, and I think it covers some absolutely real and important issues within religion. It never says Christianity is bad, throughout the show people twist the Bible for their own gain, and never really teach it. There’s so much hypocrisy exhibited in towns like Orel’s, and I think they show that better than any other show I’ve seen.
Orel is also an overly trusting simpleton. Or worse, he can be quite smart, but chooses not to think, and to let himself be guided by other people. That, in and of itself, is an indictment on religion, religion IS in essence, someone else telling you what and how you should think, and claiming they have divine authority to do so.
He's also shown as a rare exception to the rule, and it's his good qualities that allow him to rise above the toxicity making almost everyone else in moralton miserable, not the faith he shares with everyone else.
I think it's cool that you can enjoy it anyway, and acknowledge there are problems within your religion that it highlights, but I feel it absolutely, very strongly implies that religion is bad. I feel like denying that kind of distorts it to fit your agenda, which is totally appropriate and on-brand... so...
@@nimbuscloud5175I see where you’re coming from, but the major hole in this argument is that Orel keeps his faith. If the show had been a general bashing of religion, why is it that Orel’s good ending sees him hold onto it?
This show is still definitely a heavy criticism of a particular type of Christianity, but it’s specifically the Bible thumping hypocrites the town represents. These people don’t have genuine faith, instead using the concept of God to further their own agendas. They claim to know what God wants, but have not answered besides “God said so”. Religion isn’t the source of the town’s hypocrisy. Clay’s flaws come from a warped value system due to his abuse and his alcoholism, with his “faith” only being a deflection of his own sins.
To me, the message of Moral Orel is that Christianity in America is in a sickly state and is abused by terrible people. The solution doesn’t seem to be atheism specifically (Arthur lost his faith and still abused and neglected Clay), but being a good person that able to see through the bullshit of the world, regardless of the faith you follow.
@@irondolphin9387 You're mistaken, that's not a hole in the argument. Morel can absolutely keep his faith, and the show can still show religion in a bad light, those two things are not exclusive. That's what happened, in fact. I've already refuted this point, by saying Morel is good in spite of his faith, not because of it. Nothing about Orel's faith makes him good. Orel is a good person, and also happens to have faith in christianity, he is one of the few.
You tacitly agree with me in your last line there, about him being able to see though the bullshit, regardless of his faith.
Stephanie is the only reasonable, well-adjusted person in the town, and she's an intentionally tropy atheist. Don't forget her. Athiesm also isn't r responsible for for Arthur being abusive, it isn't a codified ideology. It's not an answer to any kind of philosophical question, it's the (correct, by the way), possition that there's no good, compelling, reality-based reason to believe in a deity, especially not a deity described in any organize religion.
So why do I get to say Arthur's actions aren't based on Atheism, but you don't get to say everyone else's actions aren't based on christianity? Well, I'll tell you No True Scotsman, because religion does claim to answer those questions and to have authority to tell you what to do. Atheism just listens to that and says. "I don't believe you, and won't unless you can show me a good reason to."
@@nimbuscloud5175 Yes, Orel keeping his faith and the show criticizing the religious hypocrites of America isn’t mutually exclusive. However, the idea that religion is only for simple minded fools and abusive authority figures is mutually exclusive for Orel’s good ending keeping him a religious man. If the show was simply condemning Christianity as bad, why not simply make Orel an atheist in the end?
Orel is not moral in spite of his faith. He is moral in spite of the town. That sounds like a nitpick, but I see it as an important distinction. Many times, Orel gets close to the lessons God teaches, but the town tries tearing it away from him. For instance, Orel meets God and the town rejects his vision because it goes against how they thought God would look like.
Stephanie is a great character and her being an atheist and one of the few truly moral characters. However, she is not moral because she is an atheist. She is moral because she is a good person who doesn’t judge others. Arthur is a man without faith and he was abusive and neglectful of Clay. Yes, he didn’t abuse Clay because of atheism, but Clay didn’t abuse Orel because of Christianity. Arthur’s abuse stems from Clay taking his wife from him (both in terms having all of her attention and her actual death) and Clay’s abuse stems from his warped sense of expressing love and his alcoholism.
You said I included the “no true Scotsman” fallacy, but I never said they weren’t people who believed in christ. I said they were hypocrites using the faith to further their own ends. I mean, Clay is a violent alcoholic, who engages in extra marital, homosexual affairs, speaks badly of Christ himself and judges everyone else but refuses to atone for any of his sins. The only aspect of faith Clay really maintains is that God is real and only barely. If I call myself a patriot while acting against everything my country stands for, am I really a patriot?
like Orel’s dog is literally Jesus reincarnated but the town executes him for selfish reasons, which pretty easily solidifies the show stands on religion
I just discovered the shows early this year and it has become one of my favorite shows. I still wish we could see the other episodes that Dino S. had planned before it got cancelled.
Hopefully Moral Orel's new popularity will make that a possibility! A lot of cancelled shows are getting continued nowadays...
The more I see moral Orel. The more I love it as I see more and more details and I'm an eagle eyed watcher so the rewatches add more to the cast.
The special was probably better on my rewatch as I could see the potential we didn't get from the show being cancelled
I think Stopframe was trying to cause more tension in Clay's marriage to split them up, and it works out sorta
i got back into the show a few years ago and was really concerned about it blowing up because the show could be taken the wrong way, but thankfully its been taken just an dan wanted it. you did a great job on the last video and this one is even better!
Aw thanks Fox! Much appreciated!
Personal headcanon ☝
Coach Stopframe got Bloberta pregnant, hoping that Clay would realize she cheated, and divorce her. Then, the coach could cozy up to Clay and be his partner.
Considering that Coach Stopframe only had an affair with Bloberta so he can get closer to Clay, this headcanon isn’t that bad
Well, that's not just headcanon, Stopframe literally told that to Bloberta in "Numb", the second episode of the third season of "Moral Orel"
@@biancarossa9728 OH~ It's been a while since I've watched the show.
Stephanie being a juggalette is a headcanon that makes sense honestly
Orel's grandfather became such a Chad after being instrumental in Clay's downfall. I really don't like how we never got those last seasons because he was going to have a major role in them.
i suspect clay would have been screwed up even if his father was nice to him. Clay was 'mommy's most special-est miracle baby' and had 8 years of being gorged on attention. In the visuals you can see that clay is happy when his dad hits him, and was hurt emotionally when his dad decided he "wasn't worth it".
In Clays mind attention is love. when people stop paying attention to him, or god forbid he has to shell out attention on someone else, he views it as people no longer loving him.
In clays damaged psyche Arthur having a normal father/son relationship would have been "neglect".
or at least, thats my theory.
I thought no one else noticed how Clay isn't even close to being like Orel,he is waay too spoiled and self-centered from the very begaining
I'll just say - I came for the unpacking of Moral Orel, I stayed for your calming voice, way with words and the amazing aura of the video! The original video and the way you've narrated it gave me Stephanie energy haha
Aw thank you so much. That genuinely means a lot. Funny story, I planned on starting my YT channel about 1.5 years before I actually did. Made the audio for a vid about the wheel of time, but I COULD NOT STAND the sound of my own voice so I scrapped it and moved on. So it's great to read comments like these. Makes me realize I may have been a bit too rough on myself 😅
I love how you said some people think this is atheist propaganda when the very end of moral Orel ends in a happy religious family and it’s a wholesome ending not a continuance of the abuse
The voice acting recording technique is very interesting. Basically, it looks like the Moral Orel team invented something very similar to how voice recording is done in the anime industry. In Japan, voice actors pretty much always record in a group, with everyone involved in an episode in the same room (though it usually happens standing up). It’s typically understood to add life and interplay to the voices, which helps counteract the stiffness of the limited animation anime has to work with most of the time. It’s interesting but quite reasonable that a similar technique was used in a show where little puppet people were turned into deep, believable characters.
This show is amazing.
I was In a very Christian school when I was younger
And my parents were diverced since I was born.
This show changed my life and without it, I wouldn't have survived. Im glad This show is getting more attention
As a person who loves nothing more than to watch hours-long analyses of media I’ve never engaged with, summarizing every episode in your videos is so 👌🏻👌🏻
WE COULD OF HAD GOTH OREL 😭😭
brb going on a 2hr rabbit hole on tumblr for goth orel fanart
I love the running gag of the 4th guy in orel's friend group never saying his name
"Wanna hangout with doughy me and him?"
"Oh look its doughy Tommy and the gang"
"Hi im-"
"Hey we're all meeting for the 1st time"
This show as a whole was something truly truly special to me. I experienced abuse within my house, thankfully my mother was and has always been a support but not always perfect she still loved me. My mimi was also a huge escape from my house as well. I wish I got to see moral orel the way it was intended. I wanted to see Orel get that escape, like I did. I related a lot to Orel, to the women of Moralton, and even questioning my own beliefs. I grew up in a catholic household, a very strict one where it was even skewed to their favor. Fast forward, I met my boyfriend and he helped me escape my toxic household. 15 years of my life my dad was an alcoholic, and he was very much like Clay except not gay and very racist. I related to Orel so much when he was finding reasons to honor his father because I still do the same thing. Even when my father became sober, he still acted like that drunk but more tame and less physically violent. I tried to reconnect with my father and it never really worked out. Becuase you can't change people who don't want to change. As much as they tell you what happened to them as kids to explain away why they're the way they are. As much as they beg you to write what they should chage themselves. They never do. I'm so happy in my life I live now, I'm finally able to be free now. In short, this show is important to me, and I wish it never got the plug pulled so soon. I definitely would've cried harder at the end. The ending to me at least felt bittersweet. I was happy that Orel escaped his toxic household like I did, but I wanted to see the process so much. To know that I'm not alone with my trauma, that many others like me relate to this show. And it's beautiful to me. I love seeing everyone's commentary or comments about this show. I watched this show becuase of your first video, and I wanted to thank you for it. I needed to see something like this. I'm sorry about the essay but this show means so so much to me. Thank you again for making your 1st video. Keep it up.
I really love how everytime Meromorphic says Dino’s name, he pronounces his last name differently
OREL DOES THE FAMILY GUY DEATH POSE 3:36
I dont know where the clip of the woman in lolita fashion going "how dare you"" comes from but i love her and i love you for using that
That is the wonderful Contrapoints as a catgirl lol. From this very site. I highly recommend her! Also, thank you so much!
I appreciate you recapping the episodes, I'm one of those freaks that watches video essays on media I have not consumed, so this works for me
I actually like how much you recap, it's like experiencing the show when you haven't watched it (and really, that's what deep dive videos are for)
i love the timing of this. for the past few months a lot of other reviews and retrospectives about this show have begun popping up from various other youtubers.
Maybe it's one of those masterful comment baits, but I'll bite: Clay coming to get Orel when Bloberta went into labor implies that Orel was on a farm for at least half a year.
It was not. Damn I totally missed that
6:50 that's orel's voice actor Carolyn Lawrence idk why she's blurred it might be due to privacy reasons as she does the voice of sandy on spongebob but idk it's just speculation
Great catch. But that just raises more questions. Lol
i think you recapping the story is good for us viewers who have never seen moral orel before your videos. like, maybe not ideal for someone whose watched it beforehand- but i don't care! i'm having fun! that's the point, we aren't in a goddamn classroom
Are you going to watch it?
If you can handle its subject matter, then I'd say watching it is still worth doing, even if you know what happens in it.
I remember this special having Orel’s actress slip into her Sandy Cheeks voice, and it made me laugh.
Moral orel is 100 percent coming back and im excited for when it does
how come you think so?? i really hope it does
@@user-ky9qh5ld5q Hulu and Netflix constantly rebooting old shows and bringing them back especially with moral orels sudden jump in popularity it’s bound to happen
@@amegalodonwithinternetacce5863 I certainly would hope so. Moral Orel is still one of my favorite pieces of media for its honesty and empathy.
I have to wonder if that fourth season would also expand upon if Grandpa Arthur actually has regrets about how he treated Clay. We don't get that in Beforel, but them living under the same roof would probably have given the right chance to see that. He treats Orel so differently compared to his own son, and I wonder if the estrangement between Clay and Arthur was a part of that.
I really wanted to see Arthur apologizing to Clay. Season 4 wouldve been awesome :(
@@bluetea8181 idk Clay did kill his mom cuz she wasnt giving him her completely attention.
@@Kris-wo4pj yeah but it would be nice to show how arthur IS better than clay, cause he changed, while clay stayed the way he was when he was younger
One thing that I think is of note is that in the flashback Arthur seems to be trying his best to make Clay into a more independent person, but also seems to be jealous of the attention Clay gets from his mother. We can see that he is doing his best and there are many of the makings of a good father but is constantly undermined by his understandably traumatized wife. Then when Clay's neediness takes his wife away from Arthur forever, he can't forgive Clay, and that is where the abuse and neglect begins.
I have a head canon that after Arthur dies and Orel becomes Goth, Clay is drinking even more than usual in celebration of his father’s death and that Orel eventually talks to Stephanie about his loss and grief and she tells him some good advice which is sometimes people do things that are wrong but later change in life and that not believing in God doesn’t make a person “bad” and that they deserve to burn in hell for it. What truly matters is how much that person touched the lives of others through their action. Stephanie then tells Orel that being a goth kid isn’t who he really is and it’s just a phase caused by his grief and that people love him for who he is and not how he dresses. So Orel then goes home to find an angry and annoyed Bloberta scolding Clay for his behavior and Clay sees Orel and says something nasty about Arthur which sets Orel off. Orel then angrily yells at Clay who is now stunned in silence about how he is an awful person for forcing his own dying farther to share a tiny bed with a twelve year old boy instead of getting another bed and that he (Clay) acts like he’s such a victim over the way Arthur had treated him after his mother had died but it was really his [Clay’s] behavior that created the rift between them to grow even bigger. Orel then tells Clay that if he [Clay] was dying, he wouldn’t force him to share a bed with his own son and would have given him his own bed to rest in during his final days because he [Orel] knows that his father deserves to be comfortable in such a time because he’s his father and doesn’t deserve to suffer no matter how badly he has been to him [Orel] and everyone else in his lifetime. This rant would make Clay burst into tears because it’s the truth and would demonstrate that even with his flaws, Orel still has some love for Clay and enough respect to not make him suffer when he needs him the most and Clay secretly acknowledges that he messed up big time with his own father and now there is no way to correct his mistakes or say that he was sorry. Clay of course would still be a drunk jerk but he’d at least try to be a better father to the boys and occasionally acknowledge when he messes up.
I think one thing about Moral Oral I really appreciate is just how much Clay is almost Jealous of Oral's innocence. That same innocence his grandpa saw in him that in his youth blinds Oral to the gray of the world but keeps him uncorrupted by it. Even after the weathering the storm of his childhood with his toxic family, Oral ends the series (spoilers if you haven't finished it and reading this) as a better man, husband and father than his father and Grandfather. Not even any hatred because he still honors his father and mother with a picture on the wall instead of trying to forget them. He's matured more than Clay OR Blowberta had in all their lives, combined.
14:33 DUDE THAT CRACKED ME UP SO BAD 💀 I usually never comment on videos but your content is absolutely wonderful!
That caught me off guard 💀
It’s pretty strange how I got into the show coincidentally right as everyone else did and it wasn’t bc of tiktok or anything I just decided to finally watch it
I mean your hereditary unpacking was also great. You have an excellent eye for media analysis and critque
i feel like i’m stalking you channel with how early i am, literally your so underrated
Same
Love it!
This special was so damn sad. I really wanted orel to be able to stay with grandpa
I had never heard of the show before your video started playing when I had UA-cam on in the background. Subscribed and now a fan of the show. Thank you!
I stumbled upon your original video and was so intrigued by it that I watched the show alongside it. it was a cool way to watch the show. thanks for your work!
I always wanted to watch Moral Orel but never got around to it. But a few days ago I actually watched Moral Orel (All the episodes) in 3 days. It was pretty deppresing yet funny!
. . . Dang-
You really committed. 😂
I'm not any different-
@@MariXStairsSunfløwer Yeah 😂 I might rewatch it soon!
everything about this show is perfect…i love how each action of every character shows more and more of a story. It’s truly a shame that we can’t get more of these characters… i’d love to see grandpa in orels life with his new family
I really loved this show I remember watching all seasons when they were coming out and I really wanted more so now that it is getting the recognition it finally deserves I hope the creator can bring it back because this show was really special to me
That video has made me so happy and I’m glad to see there’s more!
Still can’t believe reverent putty is voiced by Rigby. It’s hilarious.
im just so happy that orel got to grow up and have a happy healthy family, thats all i care about
After watching your first video on Moral Orel, I watched a few more videos on it, and then binged the show myself over 2 times and I have to say, I’m glad I was introduced to it.
My patreon is a very hot and
H O M O E R O T I C place too: www.patreon.com/meromorphic
I would just like to say “hot Christian domme mommy” is now a phrase that will never leave my vocabulary
please dont throw nickels at me but i honestly thought they got the blood from the women that orel impregnated am i just dumb for thinking this
Glad to see you appreciate all the support from the previous video but don't let it cause you stress to make sure your future videos have to live up to your previous ones because what ever you'll make there will always be a audience
Give it a year. People are starting to understand more and more. The thing I always like to say now is life is like “a bugs life”. Ever since the internet became a thing I’ve just been seeing the movie unfold SLOW but truly show how it’s the exact same. “Let one stand up they all stand up” post one thing get everyone posting about said thing. Knowing something is simply the most powerful thing not a person can have but the community.
It's a breath of fresh air to hear someone not censoring swears for UA-cam
Omg youre the cool giy who read unveiling back in the day! Dude! Glad youre doing well!
I got curious about Moral Orel because of videos like yours (and including yours) that kept getting recommended to me. Finally I watched the videos which inspired me to watch the show for the first time! So thank you for bringing the show to me!!
By mentioning ICP you legally owe everyone who views this a faygo. Your local dollar store will know you by name after this feat
Aw fuck.
God I might actually make a bottle after typing that joke lol, what flavor do you enjoy from them?
I am ashamed to admit that it took the utterance of the term "angry Christian dommy mommy" for me to finally subscribe.
You're a treat.
Also how dare you.
😅 welcome aboard!
@@Meromorphic Good to be here, my dude!
each time i watch anything moral orel related i almost cry because of the fact it was cancelled🙁
I hope this revivals the series, it's a good show.
*”Dommy Mommy”*
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Coach stockframe tells Reberta they had Shapey for Clay initially.
I binged this show while I had COVID. I can't tell you why, but it made me feel better? idk, that kind of just... utter familiarity with misery really made it hit different
I put most of the blame for Clay on his mother. She was a pious, enabling, overbearing women that completely neglected Arthur as soon as Clay was born . Since he was her only child, and after a long stream of miscarriages, she spoiled him into an entitled brat. Clay faked his death after he found out that he was not the only child his mother attempted to have and that resulted in his mom dying of a heart attack.
Stephine is definitely a furry. Her fursona is a goth bat.
Please don't shoot me haha
it really sucks that moral orel got cancelled, but the fact hat they gave them one more episode to shoot is just amazing of them.
..still wish they had the whole show back, but i can't do anything about it..
"Stephanie is a furry." Okay now wait a minute--
Nah, but seriously, it's great seeing people discover this show. I first saw it via a UA-cam video that has clips without context. It was really funny, and aesthetic of claymation was fresh to me since we don't see it often anymore. After watching the in its entirety... Well, it certainly was an experience to say the least. But one I'm going to cherish forever.
These two videos were amazing and introduced me to an amazing series. I hope your channel continues to grow. Its kinda insane being introduced to your channel because of your reading of the dark future lore book with it only having a few hundred views and now you've gotten a video with a million. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much, friend! I really appreciate it
Calling Ms CensoredAll Dommy Mommy was like my version of a sleeper agent awakening
the coach was hoping to use the mom to get a kid i.e. the mom leaves and him and the dad would be able to raise the kids together
Yes I think this is most likely his thought process
Something I noticed is that nurse bendy has blonde hair. But in the episode "dumb" she said she "just dyed her hair" from black to blonde but in this episode she has blonde hair!
Pretty sure Stopframe is bi-coded in the series. The episode in which Orel becomes a pimp shows him invite an escort (and a dog) to his home
0:04 that kid with the red hair never gets his name LMAO 😭😭
I like that Orel has his brothers photos on the wall. And that they are doing good for them self
i'm here because it seems that youtube's algorithm blessed you the first time and now again on my feed. i wish you continued luck.
Thank you very much. Been getting a lot of rude comments today 😐 so this is really nice to read. Have a good night!
Half a year later I'm back for more
1:35 yes, yes she is. It’s cannon and I refuse to believe otherwise.
Best Moral Orel content on UA-cam. You got all those views 1) cause the video was fire 2) cause there wasn’t any quality MO videos. Now if you look there’s been some uploaded tryna ride your wave.
Aw thanks my dude. You rock
Of course this comes out right when I start my fixation on this show
0:41 ohhhh that makes sense 💀
Obligatory comment to promote this video onto the algorithm here.
But on a much more sincere note I genuinely want to see your channel pop off. Thank you for introducing me to Moral Orel, it's been a genuinely fun and heartbreaking experience to watch. But it wouldn't have been so without the help of your channel. Thank you.
i watch your original moral orel video every day when i have to go to work. something about the combination of mountain goats and the show itself is really scratching an itch in my brain. thanks for your hard work
I thought you lost the original video and this was a reupload. Glad to see it’s not gone.
as i rewatched moral orel again now 30... i relized something massively and the crackes turned into things sharding. i am literally shapey. like i dont wanna get into my birth and life or my mental health but i literally lived that hell without any of the hyjinks tho more forced in a room locked away as a mistake since i wasnt normal enough... 30 years old and still so fucked up and afraid to leave and fearing what may or will happen to the few things i have left in my life and the things ive had since i could remember....... god so much for half my life. the best years. forced in a closet and ill never know thos.