Euphoria: Why Nate Jacobs is so Terrifying
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- Опубліковано 16 лют 2022
- An analysis of Euphoria season one
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says its private ):
To me, one of the scariest things about Nate is how his worst traits are twisted versions of good traits. Being smart and strategic becomes manipulation. Drive becomes ruthlessness. Strength and protectiveness become domination. So if we praise someone's apparently good traits, how do we know that we're not encouraging something twisted?
Because most people aren't so disordered. That's how.
We can't know...unless you're a psychologist or a medical professional
those are just personality traits, i think to know if someone is a truly good person is if you evaluate their character and inherent values and morality -- for example like you said someone can be intelligent but could use that intelligence for good or for bad, if bad then their character is poor and it shows thru in a basic personality trait, it can manifest differently depending. superficial personality traits can be easily bent, character not so much.
Exactly like another person said, good traits are not necessarily indicators of a good person. Just a person who understands what people may value. Question why you value these things truly and you can choose better people who are in your life.
I agree, it becomes a point where if you've ever met a nate or anyone like him, you have to be cautious of praising him due to the fact that inside you reinforce their worst behaviors.
Everyone wants Nate to be gay/bi but trauma doesn’t turn people gay. He is disturbed and traumatized, not gay.
Yeah I agree with you.
thank you. he has expressed absolutely no interest in guys on the show beyond dick pics, and that’s still a grey area since people can’t decide if they were used to manipulate jules or for himself.
Exactly I don't understand everyone's obsession with Nate being Gay
@@stella9420 fr i’m gay and i just don’t see how he’s gay. he’s literally only been interested in three different women throughout the whole show.
Nate had searched up and saved dick pics in his phone? Y’all don’t remember when Maddie went through his phone?
I’m not talking about Jules who is trans cuz she’s a girl, but I’m talking about how Nate saved searched and SAVED MADDD random dick picks. Though he is struggling with his sexuality, Cal traumatized Nate when Nate watched those tapes as a kid
The scariest part for me is that there are real people like him out there who will stop at nothing to get what they want.
😒reality is he is far from Tim Bundy. Nate is not that bad. The fact he got beat up by fez shows that.
@@newbesocool99 Nate’s not that bad? He is an emotionally stunted, physically abusive, verbally abusive, manipulative, egotistical, sociopathic, malicious and controlling boy. He is the epitome of toxic masculinity. Sure he may not be Ted Bundy… but there’s plenty of people out there who are just like Nate.
@@aidaimcshmidai i don’t think he’s emotionally stunted not physically abusive. Abuse is a continually thing not something that happens once or twice which is what Nate did. He isn’t the only person who is verbally abusive or manipulative or does malicious things in the show. He’s not egotistical either since he was shown caring about others even if it’s not a lot. Also don’t think he’s controlling. Don’t agree with the idea of toxic masculinity. Yes there are plenty of people like Nate but just like Nate you have a choice if whether you want to deal with them. Nate doesn’t just impose himself into peoples life’s. There’s a choice
@@newbesocool99 i dont think you understand what abuse is then bc he is a walking red flag for abuse.
@@bellebwells9782 I’ve been around abuse my entire life. He’s not abusive. Abuse is continual not two situations. Doesn’t mean he’s not capable of violence or is a good person. If Maddie was truly abused the Maddie you all love wouldn’t exist.
jacob elordi does such a good job at portraying nate that i'd be terrified of him if i saw him irl
Brother went to a private boys school in Australia he’s defs not acting too hard
LMAO fr
Legit haha. Have you seen his interviews? He comes across like an awkward little Aussie puppy its adorable and makes Nate even scarier!
@@twixbar4785 Lol, most of the actors on this show seem to be pretty similar to their characters in real life.
The role def fu*ked his psyche
Here is something I realised after watching the S2 final: Nate told his Dad that he had those nightmares about him doing the same things to Nate that he did to the people on the sex tapes. Maybe thats why Nate reacted so hard when his Dad pinned him to the ground, cuz he was geniuenly scared that his dreams would come true.
Wow yea that makes a lot of sense
I was gonna say something similar when I saw someone else comment about this. And I haven't even watched the show lol!
i realized this last night too
Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking !
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what's crazy is that I don't think he's gay. I think he's quite literally homophobic, so afraid of being gay, that he finds himself in these weird situations were one could consider him fluid. That's why he likes the most hyper-feminine characters in the show. He doesn't really love most -If any- of them, he loves that they're the opposite of masculinity.
oh you spilled.
Maybe. I don’t think Nate is straight. I think he’s bi with a preference for women.
i hate the writing in season 2 but this is such a good explanation for his relationship with cassie. according to rues narration in that whole imaginative scenario of a family with cassie, rue said cassie wouldve been a better partner for him compared to maddy. its because maddy is more assertive to nates bullshit while cassie has zero self-esteem who is obsessed with love. idk about masculinity and femininity but i think nates problem is that he feels the need to always dominate. cassie gives him that satisfaction.
I don't think he's afraid of being gay, he's afraid of people thinking he is less than people think he is.
His homophobia doesn’t exclude him from being 🏳️🌈 since many homophobes are gay. I think it’s very possible for Nate to hold such an immense level of hatred for his bi-ness considering his character.
I think it's because Nate is a realistic villain , the likelihood of running into a ''Nate Jacobs type " in real life is high. Getting inside the head of someone like that is deeply unsettling Like maybe not a this much of an extreme level but to some degree. Yes.
Yea but to his extent is more rare like u could make documentary on the shit he’s done
This! We all know a few
It is high unfortunately I was one until I realized the monster I became
I think he's a sociopath
And to meet with one is very ordinary irl!!
Conocí a muchos chicos como nate en secundaria definitivamente puedes encontrarte con alguien así en la vida real
I read an essay once that talked about how the best way to take down fascists is not through force, but through mockery. Obviously Nate is just 1 person, not a fascist regime, but the way Lexi was able to land such a blow to his ego with the musical number in her play just shows that laughing at a bully, turning them into a joke, can be even more effective than hitting them in the head with a bottle. (I'm still really glad Fez beat his ass though, lol)
😂😂😂😂 The last sentence
Lexi is a dead man now
@@matbmp8996 1. She's a woman, 2. Nate can't do shit to her.
He’s gonna use Cassie to get to Lexi
@@NostalgicHearts Damn you sound creepy
Nate is such a good character, the perfect representation of toxic masculinity but not only a prototype, being humanized by the extreme trauma of finding out so young about his dad’s secret. On top of that, Jacob Elordi is great in the role
not to mention the internalized homophobia. a lot of men that question their sexuality absolutely hate to admit it because of internalized homophobia, it’s not talked about enough AT ALL and he’s a perfect depiction of it. he feels ashamed for the images he had on his phone and didn’t want to admit to what he was doing. nate jacobs is seriously an incredibly written character
@@softluvable yes absolutely, i would say internalized homophobia is one of the main traits of toxic masculinity
What he sneaks people
What the fuck is toxic masculinity
@@lostabu7215 exactly
Euphoria recreates the extreme anxiety and emotional highs we have all felt as teenagers. We didn’t all live through the same trauma but this show let’s me FEEL like I am 17 again.
Yeah for all the talk of it being over-exaggerated there’s so much emotional authenticity to how it depicts those years
@@mintrommovies it under exaggerates in the real world rue would've been stripped naked the guy wouldnt have let her ramble on and on and delay taking her pants off while everyone was being searched. Irl Zendaya is a star and has a no nude clause. If anything this show under exaggerates what happens in the real world.
@@mintrommovies Nathaniel "Nate"Jacobs from Euphoria Vs Bryce Walker from 13 reasons why.
@@antoniocontreras7559 i think they made up for that with faye and her boyfriend getting their heads knocked into a wall. i think its okay to look past one scene.
this show relates to everyone who had different experiences in high school
“This was the most unhinged we’ve ever seen Nate”
*Laughs in season 2 gun scene*
lmao that was my thought
That seen gave me goosebumps 😳
yeah oh my goodness i had to stop watching and take a walk.
LOL
I thought Cal was throwing up because he thought Jules had rat him out, not that his son was an abuser
Yeah you’re right about that. I came here to comment this and then I saw yours. But yeah Cal was freaking out at the high school simply because he thought what happened with him and Jules got out in the school. I think this scene took place just days after the carnival where Jules went up to him in front of his whole family and he realized she was a high school student and had told her friend (Rue) as well.
came to the comments to say the same thing
right exactly what i thought
@@snfo25 yeah Nate choked maddy at the carnival so you’re right
Yea that’s why
though he’s a terrible person and I don’t excuse him, the scene where Cal pins him down to the floor and he starts crying and screaming thinking he’s going to get abused breaks my heart.
I cant help but think that's a trick he plays to get some sort of control back
@@alexafletcher8991 He keeps breaking down way after his dad leaves so I'm pretty sure it's legit
@@alexafletcher8991 ur poor soft hearts , so dumb .
@@moriahmars1462 and in season 2 he has a dream about his father sexually abusing him :/
Yess as an SA victim is really hard to watch
Now we're sure it's not only Nate's father that thinks he's terrifying - he's mother feels the same way about him.
In season two, after Cal leaves and she's drunk she starts wondering out loud in front of Nate as to when he got so unhinged and when it went so wrong.
And in the same scene excuses him and almost applauds for choking Maddy. He's a product of both of his parents.
@@agnieszkalewandowska9750 nates mother does not applaud, but rather very clearly disapprove of the choking, but does mention that she didn’t mind a certain level of ‘disciplining’ of maddie because of her rude and awful behaviour with her.
@@kanikagupta8261 She doesn’t approve of the visual evidence of him attacking her and the chaos it created. I doubt she would care if he kept it behind closed doors
@@ladyblubel she’s says ‘ you shouldn’t have choked her’ meaning she wanted her son to reprimand maddy but disapproves the physical act
@@kanikagupta8261 Also in the same conversation, “when you grabbed her and pulled her ass off, I was thinking that’s my boy.” She didn’t care about the violence of the act or the abuse, just the fact that he tried to kill her and caused a mess.
What disgusts me is that people knew full well he strangled Maddy (like who the hell else could’ve done it) and they cheer him on when he gets the charges dropped. It’s people like that that enable people like him. You KNOW who these abusers are and you continue to protect them because of vanity.
More like they protect him in fear of becoming the next victim
@@AlyxAesthetics it's both some people enable because they know being around this person will get them clout and attention, others enable because yeah, people like Nate can literally ruin your life by simply snapping their fingers.
But it definitely sucks when you're on the receiving end. Plus having someone abuse or exploit you while others simply watch and not lift a finger to help or stop it brings it's own kind of trauma.
I despise both of em but maddie being strangled by him was satisfying as hell tho ngl
To me the scene where him and his father fight is probably the greatest scene in the series. He was getting all the affirmation for his masculinity and power by getting away on the charges but seeing how powerless and submissive to his dad made him go psychotic just to reassert his dominance over his father.
While power probably had something to do with it, he lashed out because he saw himself in the mirror, he got reminded of his dads tapes.
Suddenly he was the guy under his dad. A lot of emotion for a teen.
Some people have a subtype of OCD that is called Sexual Orientation OCD, where the person is basically consumed by intrusive thoughts and an obsession surrounding their sexual orientation.
A lot of people suspect that Nate might actually be gay, but I think that there is a good chance that he is just obsessed with his sexual orientation and doubting his sexuality. He displays a lot of other signs of OCD in general, his rigid way of thinking and controlling nature for example. The tantrum that he had with his father in the first season terrified me and made me cry when I watched it for the first time because I experienced similar OCD related tantrums when I was a child, and if I am too overwhelmed even to this day I still experience compulsions to bang my head against a wall, hit myself etc. I don’t believe that him being ashamed of being gay or bi is the motivation for a lot of his behavior like others suspect, I think that he is entirely motivated by sexual trauma that occurred while discovering his father’s sex tapes and mental illness (likely OCD imo)
Nate does not have OCD. he has trauma and needs control
@@therealelonmusk9756 okay??? It’s just OP’s interpretation given their personal experiences.
@@therealelonmusk9756 he can have both, it would make sense why his need for control would be amplified by obsessive thoughts
@@therealelonmusk9756 So do you not know what OCD is? Cause that shit manifests differently in most people. For me, it's the balance of stuff, I have to eat food in a specific order, I have to chew evenly on both sides, if I touch one thing with my right hand I have to touch it with my left so it doesn't feel left out on the sensation. I crack my knuckles all the time but in the exact same way each time, and if one knuckle doesn't crack when I do my anxiety ramps up I wear shoes everywhere I go so that my feet always get the same amount of pressure put on them. I could go on and on and on, but my point is that Nate having OCD is very likely, and he exhibits a lot of the behaviours of someone with OCD. It doesn't change the fact that he's psychotic, literally, but just because someone says he has a mental illness (Which psychosis is), doesn't mean they're defending them. Most of us have some idea of what we can and can't do to moderate our disorders, but some people don't try at all and just let them run rampant like Nate does, and that's not okay, but he's not being psychotic on purpose, he's just choosing to not deal with it because Cal didn't believe in therapy, and now Nate as a grown ass man won't admit he should probably just go to fucking therapy.
@@BloodKills - I don't think he's psychotic, he might be a narcissist or a psychopath. He never had a break from reality and didn't have hallucinations (visual or auditory) to justify being psychotic.
Jacob Elordi being a titan really helps with the intimidation. You should look into Outer Banks character Rafe Cameron another good example.
Well at least then we’d know where Nate’s weak spot would be… Hope people get the lame reference I made
Attack on Titan
Rafe Cameron is kinda dumb but really scary.
Is that show worth watching ? It’s been on my watchlist for awhile but I haven’t actually sat down and watched it yet
@@sarahw1179 yeah its rly good, u should definitely watch itt
ikr he so tall
This video just further proves how badass Fez is. He is the only one not afraid of Nate.
Yeah,when holding a bottle on his hand
Constantine M Urm even without a bottle in his hand, fez warned Nate to stay away from Rue and her friends in the first season and Nate got kinda spooked
Fez has had to deal with dudes like mouse and Laurie his whole life...nate jacobs isn't anything he can't handle
@@MarkSmithhhh Nate would end Fez inside of 10 secs if he didnt cheap shot him with a bottle
Yeah... him and Jules...
My take on him: he’s super tall and tall people can make you feel intimidated just by standing next to them.
He’s quiet, quiet means mystery, instinctively you feel “who knows what he’s thinking” and that adds to his alluring mysterious persona.
Also, the way he stares at you with those “kind looking eyes” but inside there is a sociopath waiting to snap. That’s the scary thing about him physically, what you can see with your naked eye. Of course there are other factors, such as how he talks (very deep, almost siren like voice, except when he’s angry), how he makes you feel inside when he’s next to a character and you don’t know his next move, the way his mind works (incredible mind by the way). He is always 3 steps ahead of everyone, looks terrifying yet so attractive to females and men as well.
I would describe him as a wolf in human form..
Brilliant analysis
@@NuMindframe thank you! :)
perfect description
@@IdiomofSad thank you! :))
Great, thanks for saying this
Now I'll definitely try to stand more beside other people
Knowing he’d do something everytime someone makes an embarrassment of him I fear for Lexi and Ethan’s safety
I don't think he is going to do anything to either Lexi or Ethan tho, he only does things to people that he cares about in the sense that the people that are actively engaged in his everyday live. Like how he didn't do anything to Rue after she threatened him and he again didn't do anything to Fez after he beat him up, because to Nate, those are not important people to him nor people that he cares about. Whereas for other people such as Jules who Nate barely interacted with in person is threatened by him because those people are important enough in his life that he felt like he has to take control.
I feel like he'd take it out on Cassie. I can easily see him blaming her for the play.
Same but I think he’d use Cassie to hurt them, at the very least Lexi and he handles Ethan
@@haven8694 I think he’s going to blame her for it and whether through nates manipulation or her own fruition (like ruining Lexis play) goes after Lexi for causing distress
@@incarnation151 what about Tyler
Jacob Elordi has done a good job at making Nate such a dark character. I can’t stand him but the acting is just so incredible.
Why you can't stand him?
@@PolishAxolotl I think they mean that they can't stand Nate
@@dark_quEEnisCringe Oh yes my mistake
Recently had my girlfriend get me into this series. I'm surprised at how genuinely well written and casted this show is. Nate Jacobs freaks me the fuck out and this video fucking summarized it perfectly. I've never hated a dude as much as him but simultaneously been so perplexed. His mere presence on the screen makes me uneasy. And what's amazing is, they writers find a new and creative way to make him even more unbelievably villainous each time. The most recent episode involving him trying to obtain that CD and what he did to get it was unreal. His intelligence is perhaps what scares me most, he can get away with almost anything because he's brilliant on top of having so much institutional power.
The “run drugs to support my nana” clip took me tf out lolll
This was a great analysis but I'm pretty sure Cal is nervous at 8:45 because he thought everyone knew he had sex with an underage girl, this was before he found out what Nate did
exactly!
nate's raging breakdown while being pinned by cal was deeply triggering to me. im actually terrified whenever i saw elordi's face because of that particular scene. it felt relatable, but also terrifying.
Jacob Elordi will probably have a hard time changing the general feeling/idea about his futurw characters after this role.
Like even tho I first saw him in "Kissing Booth" I immediately associate him with Nate.
I don’t think so if he’s truly a good actor he will be able to make one believe he is only the character he is playing. If he gets similar roles I can see it’s hard.
To be fair, even his character in The Kissing Booth was toxic and manipulative.
No.. he’s an actor 😂😂😂😂 he’ll be fine. Don’t worry ab people you don’t know.
Fez beating the shit out Nate was the best scene in the show by far. He thought he was untouchable cause he ratted on Fez and Ash. Nate was dead wrong.
The scene where Nate is banging his head against the ground is hard for me to watch cause I know exactly why he reacted that way. He’s been scared of being r@ped by his dad since he saw those tapes and his dad actually overpowering him and holding him down was definitely triggering for him. He was doing whatever he could to make him stop, and I guess that was having a total meltdown. I relate to pieces of Nate, so I feel for him sometimes, but he also definitely scares me and makes me sick. I am also very attracted to Jacob Elordi so it makes watching the character confusing
it’s disturbing
Cal throwing up wasn't about Maddy's injuries - he didn't know yet. He had no idea why he was being called to the school, and he was terrified that it was because Jules had reported their encounter. When he finds out it's about Nate, his nerves immediately calm down and he goes into damage control mode.
I think he beat up Tyler for 'sexually assaulting' maddy bc he had a thing fr protecting the girl he loved, not maddy though, in his head he was beating up cal for sexually assaulting Jules as she was a kid and being filmed without consent. That and the anger of having found happiness outside his anger from cal and he somehow ruined that too.
Mmm, I think it was because the incident made him look foolish and powerless which is exactly why Maddie did it.
@@rebeccareamon9511 i know that's the most common narritive and it might be part of it but i don't think it was the main reason. Also with that logic he would have done something worse to Maddie and he didn't.
oo I like this analysis I never thought about this
he doesn’t like or care ab jules so why would he do that for jules? he just did this for power and status
The reason why I watch Euphoria aside from Rue is Nate. He's the biggest asshole and a literal menace, but with his personality and intelligence I'm curious as to what other shit he can pull off. So far with season 2 I'm a tiny bit disappointed because he's not as calculating as season 1, but they're probably setting his ultimate crazy form for season 3
The way he blackmailed Maddy in her own bed was a disaster. I was having a heart attack the entire scene. He may not be as technically manipulating this season, but his emotional manipulation is off the roof. The way he threatens Maddy with both their lives, and the way he was able to turn Cassie away from everybody she's every had, pure evil genius.
Let's be real he is the most interesting character
@@lostabu7215 when Sam wrote Nate, he apparently said he’s the most hilarious character he’s ever written. To me, he’s one of the most exciting, brilliantly written characters I’ve ever watched onscreen
People love to hate Nate...but the series wouldn't be half as interesting without Nate 🤷♂
Doesn’t make him a lovable character
I personally just don't want him to seen as the only one that is irredeemable,especially since he is the most Complex/developed and Only Male POV that we follow in this universe.
I don't want him to be saved by Jules but I do think she brings out a side of Nate that he can't reveal to anyone else.
The scene when Nate’s father fought him and he went into a rage was a big indicator that dude may have been abused…folks who experience something like that, that anger doesn’t go away.
I still get goosebumps at them chanting his name, he's so unphased by it, he KNOWS he's in control of everything and everyone and its fucking scary.
The most terrifying part of this is that we all know someone like Nate, the embodiment of privilege (obviously from a teenager point of view)
I wanna say that Jacob Elordi is such a talented actor, he is ideal for a villian, I can see him go very far in the horror and suspense genres
this is such a good video, nate jacobs is one of the best written characters i've seen and his character really gets uncredited. yes, he is a bad person but his motives, what he represents and how he ended up that way is more interesting than just mindlessly hating the character.
Because people don’t like him as character, which I find annoying. They can’t appreciate a good antagonist.
facts he's a misunderstood character that's so easy too blame and scapegoat
i always interpreted Nates dad throwing up in the school as him being terrified that Jules or Rue had snitched to the police about him and that he was about to lose everything in his life and his secret was out
I really like how nates character is written in the context of his early exposure to degrading sex, especially in the last clip of this video. He’s a hurt person, he’s experiencing age regression, but it’s not really framed like you’re supposed to sympathize with him. Trauma can do so many different things to people: it can make you entirely too soft and meek, it can make you a strong person, but it can also make you a monster. And that’s what Nate is. He’s terrifying throwing a tantrum on the floor.
Nate’s breakdown with his dad in season 1 was so hard to watch. Jacob Elordi even gave himself a concussion. Great acting. And great video!
The way he’s so calm after everything dark and crazy he does
He is so smart and so manipulative. So, when I saw him I also noticed how society removes and adds toxicity to their ideal man and that is Nate. but once that happens and we see it we're like "He's awful" people often want these types of men(from what I've seen and read) and expect their issues to be limited but I applaud Euphoria for showing that no one could actually change him.
I knew someone just like Nate when I was in high school. People like him are both deeply damaged and have no empathy for others. It's terrifying and so sad at the same time.
What were they like?
@@giggyj6343 Thanks for sharing. Good for you for changing! Did you ever live with people who were negatively affected by your struggle and if so what did it mean to you, was it easy to live with? I hope that comes off clear and like a reasonable question.
Sociopaths?
@@giggyj6343 You're okay with some people not forgiving you for harming others, right?
@zbeh4495 Narcissists, sociopaths, etc.
To me, Nate is so terrifying because he’s so unpredictable. It may sound generic to say, but I genuinely have no clue what he’s thinking or feeling and have no clue how he’ll react to a given situation, amping up the fear factor of it.
In a single scene, he go through a cycle of so many emotions. Take the scene where he holds a gun to Maddy. He starts off indifferent and casual, almost mockingly self-aware of the terror and trauma he’s inflicting. As the scene goes on, his more aggressive and purely rage-filled side takes over him, particularly when he gets on top of Maddy. We see him using physical dominance (literally on top of someone or beneath them) as an indication of him asserting his masculinity several times throughout the show, completely influenced by the sec tapes of his dad. Even the way he drags his mouth down Maddy’s body as he gets off her is a kind of sexually abusive gesture. And then he kind of looks like a frightened child, and his apology to her truly seems sincere - like he genuinely can’t believe he’s capable of doing that to another person. It made me believe, even if only for a split second, that he was truly remorseful - or at least convinced me he has a lot of self-loathing and actually fantasizes about being the sweet “Tyler” he presented to Jules - before that sociopathic indifference once again takes over him.
This, of course, is almost entirely due to Jacob’s acting. But we see him undergo these various emotional states that make it hard to pinpoint how we feel about him, and how he’ll react. He feels _human_ to put it simply. His extreme, almost childlike vulnerability after choking Maddy, which surely became manipulation in retrospect but felt sincere in the moment. Maybe he did feel vulnerable at the time, or maybe he was manipulating her the whole way through, I truly don’t have a clue. I thought he’d go apeshit on Fez after he beat him up, given how he reacted to Tyler - but he doesn’t. I thought he’d never reveal his knowledge about the tapes to his dad, but he does. He’s always in such extreme emotional dispositions, it’s hard to really understand his motivations for doing anything. That’s what makes him so fascinating/terrifying, in my opinion.
I have to say, my only reason to watch Euphoria is because of Jacob Elordi. His performance as Nate is awesome. Just seeing how terrifying Nate is, it's what caught my attention about the show. I hope Jacob gets an award just by playing Nate.
And my ultimate question: why maddy wore the black thick clothes. She could have worn sleeveless colourful turtle neck...its like she wanted to be discovered?
I think it was explained in the show by rue narrating something along the lines of Maddie being really depressed from what happened with Nate and also serotonin deficiency after the Molly she took
If you’re into that toxic short term love whether straight or queer, I feel like Nate could provide that. Him and Jules had a moment in the first season and I was shipping it till things went downhill but sometimes rough sex does keep them coming back. His personality is so flawed yet he’s so addictive…
I don’t know if you know what I mean.
I’ll watch what you have to say around my lunch time.
I think that is why the show designed Nate this way. The most toxic relationship, once the person is pulled in and brainwashed.. it feels like the highest high and then the lowest low and then back to the highest high again. The abuser became this way over time, getting smarter with how to get their way by being hyper observant and “3 steps ahead”, but by also inherently overtime learning better and better how to manipulate with everything they have to make the situation as appealing as possible. They also have no emotions so they don’t really feel close to anyone and that results in them being able to tune out during anything intimate, if anything that’s where they channel their inner rage or hurt or pain. Like Nate did with Cassie in the latest episode. Like another comment here stated: Nate is a wolf.
That scene of nate fighting with his dad and him completely unhinged and ferocious makes me cry every time I watch it. It was hard to watch.
Honestly don’t hate the character as much as a lot of others do. I understand how childhood trauma can really fuck up a persons mind
But he would not be able to get away with his shit if he would be black/poor
@@miriamchalmovianska863 I don't think that changes anything. It's not like he chose to be rich and white lol
@@milic5068 vice versa
@@miriamchalmovianska863 Yes he would lol. Nate's blackmailing is almost entirely built around him setting a trap for others using their own secrets or just simply physically overpowering them; which is more geared around his personal intellect, cunning and strength than anything else.
Maddy basically does the same aggressive shit he does to others minus the scheming (and judging from episode 2 of season 2, she has been doing it for quite some time) and she's perfectly fine despite being both a minority and a woman, so how does your victimizing mind explain that?
@@miriamchalmovianska863 yes he could lmao
As a woman, he's terrifying because he's realistic. The face of patriarchy and priviledge. We all know at least one guy who could very well be him. Of course Jacob's size and the context of the Jacobs family within the series helps, but there are too many like him out without those, still getting away with casually destroying our lives. The banality of evil, in a way
As amazing as the show is, it is NOT one of the greatest tv-series of all time. Yes, it can easily be called one of the greatest teen dramas of all time. But especially with season 2, it has cemented my belief that as beautiful and superior to other shows it is on a technical level (the unique direction, the amazing soundtrack and musical score, the top-notch performances, the aesthetics, the cinematography etc.), it has plenty of shortcomings and yes, the cracks were always there, but at least in season 1 you could almost ignore them. Now, they are more present than ever.
In my opinion, the biggest issue with Euphoria comes with certain character arcs. Even ignoring the fact that it is clearer than ever that it does not know what to do with selected characters, there are some serious narrative issues. They keep introducing more conflicts and more traumas every episode, as if they don't trust me as a viewer to come back to the show if they don't. Moreover, these conflicts either don't get resolved, or when they do they are not resolved in a way that feels satisfactory or offers closure. And not in the way "Oh it's real life there is not supposed to be closure". No, more like the writers didn't have a better idea as to how to end it.
I think another thing I take issue with is how they keep making their characters go through hell, and they show the negative effects that their circumstances are having on them, but don't really try to DIRECTLY ADDRESS the very serious mental illnesses that they are struggling with. Sure, we get their back stories and we can think - "Oh, so that's why they are like this", but beyond that the mental ramifications of those backstories are never resolved. No, shoving Sydney Sweeney's boobs in my face is not gonna make me forget the fact that you have not addressed just how traumatized she is, in a PRODUCTIVE way (sure they show us how traumatized she is, but it's never done in a way that feels like it's getting anywhere, cause it often only serves the purpose of getting her naked or crying or screaming for drama).
In both seasons, Rue's is the only arc that I can just feel that they know what they are doing. In Season 1, I felt the same way for Jules, but much like some other characters, it's pretty clear they don't know what to do with her in season 2. There are entire episodes where her story does not move forward at all.
I will say, in season 1, these problems were present to a VERY SMALL DEGREE. I mean season 1 could literally be a miniseries, that's how complete it is. The narrative is cohesive to the point where I have almost no complaints from season 1 at all.
I am adding a link to an article by the Swaddle which expresses with clarity just what the issues are in season 2: theswaddle.com/euphoria-is-the-wokest-show-to-fail-the-bechdel-test/
I think that this could have been one of the greatest shows of all time if it didn't get a season 2.
P.S - Nate's arc, even in Season 2, is the most engaging. I feel much like in Rue's case, they have a pretty good idea what they are doing with him.
Also, while I completely respect the opinion of others, "Succession" is the best show on TV. And I know it doesn't sound like it, but I really am a big fan of Euphoria. Despite my issues with it, I do feel that the things it does well, it does REALLY well. But it certainly isn't the BEST show on TV. ONE of the bests? Maybe. But Succession will always top that list. That show gains it's upper hand by MANY factors, although that's another conversation altogether. Succession is prestige TV at it's best. The social commentary, deep character building, addressing issues of abuse, power, trauma, generational trauma, sexism, capitalism and A LOT MORE- everything is done in a way that serves a narrative purpose while saying what it has to say in a way that isn't just there for shock value. Pardon me, I think I just went on a rant. Sry :P (Just wanna make it clear, I don't have an issue if someone else thinks otherwise).
I love your whole take on the show, it pretty much sums up how I've felt about season two when I started noticing it go downhill. The clearest way that I could tell that it was going downhill was with the character Kat. She completely was shifted to a side character with barely any lines and at that no real substantial lines that meant anything for her story or Euphoria. And come to find out that it was all because of her personal falling out with the writer Sam Levinson, which is utterly unprofessional. Like its truly embarrassing. I've found myself with countless scenes getting so confused and it never being brought up again making no sense of why it was even in there in the first place. I'm honestly shocked to find out that there will be a third season after all of this. I'm hoping that in 2024 when the new season comes out that Sam Levinson will hire more writers and be more professional because a lot of people have it out for him now because of season two. Alas the show still has potential to turn around.
I agree, it is not the greatest. But this is actually based on the director Sam Levinson's life and includes some real life situations. So it is being narrated as it truly was in his life. Perhaps it's about people around him and his own life, definitely tweaked up a bit but nonetheless the same topic. You cannot really critique something too much that is about real life. Appreciate the details in your review though.
What do you guys think of Euphoria? Any predictions for the end of season 2? Let me know down below and as always, thank you so much for supporting the channel ❤️
@@rmejc ugh that’s been on my mind ever since the drugs got taken from her. stresses me out ngl
Ash might go down at Nate's hands with Fez being arrested. That's my guess.
Ok I like the show but the way you explore the way it portrays “ White privilege “ is a racist and low resolution portrayal you just agree with it and as someone who has worked in a lot of different environments I’d say there are a lot of Nate like people of all colors you don’t need to be white to be a SOB like Nate and being white dose not make Nate any worse then he already is he is just a vile terrible human being
I love how you did this video keep it up your vary talented don’t stop
But I will criticize the ideas you bring forth to make them stronger and bring clarity because I believe a strong idea/take will not buckle under scrutiny it will shine as it reforms under pressure again I love this art you pit forth keep it up bro
So I think you missed the mark on this. Maddy and Nate's relationship is mutually toxic. Maddy is just as much of a villain as Nate and she is a complete psycho.
Yes Nate is terrifying. Maddy is a psycho.
My favorite thing about the show is that race and class are such important themes without them really needing to be mentioned explicitly. It doesnt preach.
I agree!!! It’s SOOOO vast. But it’s literally never talked about. It’s killer.
i think that cal wasnt trowing up because he was scared of nate but for himself. He probably assumed that jules had leaked their "encounter" which could get him into jail yk
I think that Nate hates being vulnerable and that's why he's like this. The reason he had an intense breakdown when his father pinned him down was because he didn't win in that situation and was left in a vulnerable place so he was extremely mad at himself. His dad's words of "never left your guard down" are constantly being replayed in his head and have become his own words. He tries to control everything because he doesn't want to be left in a situation where he's vulnerable. This is one of the only ways I relate to Nate Jacobs.
Step 1: make your villain unlikable/evil
Step 2: make them (seemingly) invincible
Euphoria really nailed Nate’s character
The scariest thing about Nate that I saw was that he only smiled once throughout the entire first season, and it was because he knew he had manipulated someone.
Unpopular opinion: I don't think Nate is in love with Jules. He's jealous that Jules can express herself and be who she truly is. He can't do that, so he is both angry and in awe of it.
Nate Jacobs is the perfect example of “What she won’t do, her best friend will”
Nate’s character is not too over the top for sure, I agree with that! I know plenty of men JUST like him even some who would do the crazy weird shit he did in both seasons
I could really see Jacob Elordi playing Batman one day, he looks perfect for it !
If his trigger is being embarrassed, then wtf is he gonna do to lexi
Extermination
I'm amazed that Jacob Elordi gives me the opposite vibes of Nate in the show 😦 everytime he's on screen, i get tense and ready for something bad to happen but he has this comforting kindness to him in interviews, also omg the aussie accent
The thing that makes him so scary is how he’s willing to ruin everyones life to save his own
I’ve shared this video with 5 people so far. Love the way you do breakdowns on pretty much anything.
Nate Jacobs is so scary because there are men like him everywhere.
Nate is a great character. Not likeable, by any means, but well written and well acted. I'm glad they didn't make him just a one dimensional villain. His behavior is abhorrent, but all too human. He has a certain self awareness, yet his entire motivation is concealed from him. He is strategic and calculating, yet completely driven by erratic anger and fear. Everything he does is a disproportionate defense against some imagined threat. When he had his meltdown on the floor after being pinned by his dad, it was so sad and scary at the same time. I saw the rage and pain of a very hurt little boy, in a big strong body capable of delivering extreme wrath. Like how a wounded animal can be dangerous because it will lash out to protect itself from more pain. I can imagine how a kid's view on the world and the people in it would be damaged by having a dad like Cal. Your parents are the first people you learn to trust, and Cal is far from trustworthy. How dark everything would seem. There were moments when I genuinely felt sad for him being so fucked up immediately followed by moments when I was begging to see him get what he deserved.
Speak for yourself lol. Not all humans are narcissistic d-bags... His character is straight up evil.
@@thaistomp Well by "great" I mean entertaining and compelling to watch on a TV show. Would not want to know him in real life lol. And yeah not all humans are narcissistic d bags, but all narcissistic d bags are human.
I can’t believe he didn’t fumble the ball whilst rushing he didn’t bother protecting the ball and don’t get me started on how slow his drop back is
It’s a TV show…..?
Cal threw up because he thought the cops were there because of Jules and the tape.
wow, i absolutely LOVE how you talk about euphoria!! please do more in the future, you explain the plot and your opinion on it so well.
I know people would come for me for saying this, but Nate Jacobs has to be one of my favorite villians. Not only was he physically intimidating, he was also intelligent and uses that to his advantage to get ahead.
Had a thing with an ex Co worker who is similar in some ways to Nate. It was exhausting and it got to the point where I had panic attacks.
this analysis is so perfect you explained it perfectly
jacob elordi is a professional at being terrifying. I am very scared of him. His smile creps me so much when I found out Euphoria had him, and it is a hit show, I was like, "nah, not gonna watch and see that smile"
One of the greatest series of all time?? I’d call this a pretty gross overstatement.
Fr I like this show a lot been watching since the start but hearing that automatically made me wanna click off the video lmao
Which is the greatest show to you?
@@tokyococo6996 breaking bad, arrested development before netflix, the wire, the sopranos,
It is the biggest show on tv right now...at least you have to admit people love it all over the world and just apt to be callled one of the greatest series
Don't have the time to watch this rn but leaving a like anyways. Love your vids man, nice to see you do one on Euphoria!
Thank you!!
I was watching a trans woman’s (KatBlaq) reaction to the first season and she said that Nate’s probably sexually attracted to dick but not sexually attracted to men. Which to me add a layers of complexity that makes so much sense, due to our/mainstream more binary understanding of sexuality and gender Nate is often read as gay/ Nate is confused with his sexuality (especially since he shuts down Maddy when she says sexuality is fluid).
Theirs a thing called genital preferences. And liking dick doesn't make you gay.
Lowkey, that exact moment is when I was MOST disturbed by Nate. It's the first time you see him face his peers en masse....and he strolls right back into his "place"..insane moment
9:10 I think that in this scene his tantrum was probably like almost an example of what the father had to go through with Nate as he grew up I’m just assuming because how casually the father walked away from that fit he did I remember the father saying that Nate was just full of anger and rage too idk 🤷🏻♀️
Crazy that is one of, if not your most viewed vid essay. One because you typically do music essays and 2 because part didn’t perform as well. I haven’t even watch this show yet, but something about your videos is addictive. And I like character and movie breakdowns. Keep goin bro.
Thank you sm dude this is such a nice comment
This is Great analysis!!! Love your stuff x
great video! i just want to mention that i’ve always thought that the reason cal jacobs throws up in the school bathroom is because he thinks that someone found out about himself and jules, not because of nate.
This video is incredible, you covered this so well!! I've dated seone that almost exactly mirrors nate. It's wild because before I got with my ex I knew people out there were like this but I never knew exactly how scary these people are.
When the abuse started, I started to ask Google a lot questions. Google had an answer to every one of them because this isn't uncommon. There were hundreds and hundreds of woman asking the same thing I was, stuck in the same situation I was. As I started to read about these abusers it was like reading about my ex, as if they examined him and wrote books about it. I then realized that men like this were almost identical to one another.
What they did in this show was perfectly display what these abusers act like, their upbringings, why they are the way they are, why woman end up staying and more. I actually have to really make sure I'm in a good place before I watch the show because it's like watching exactly my life when I was with him.
I look at nate, I see my ex and all the other abusers I've known. They manipulate and gaslight to point where you don't know what about them is real anymore. They drive you insane. They are good at it too because they have most likely been doing it their whole lives.
All I can say is, don't ignore red flags! You could end up in a situation like this or worse because of it.
Nate is the straightest character in existence this man is NOT gay lmao💀
this video is beautiful i can tell you put so many effort into it, amazing work thank you🌟🌟🌟
Nate is the most interesting character and I relate to him so much. Not on a “oh I beat people level” but “I can understand why he’s like this level” lol. I always wondered why he’s like this and then they show his family.. yeah that’s why he’s like this lol. And I seriously relate to that. We are both products of our environment.
finally somebody who actually understands euphoria & what it’s doing. its absurd the amount of confused, unfounded, or straight up problematic takes i’ve heard.
Honestly, after Season 2 I'm not that sure about this being one of the best shows... it was a mess. Season 1 on the other hand - a masterpiece
Season 2 much better imo
Nate Jacobs is one my fav villains ever. Dude is menacing and complex while not being too outlandish. What a performance. Would be scared if the actor if I met him
Jacob Elordi did a phenomenal job as Nate, he really captured the essence of his character, you could actually feel the stuff going on with him and you get nervous/chills when u see Nate
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The thing that worries me the most is that there are girls out there who genuinely love Nate and think that he’s so attractive and the way he is is just their version of love
Jacob is so good at playing nate that every time i see him in another role my first reaction is pure annoyance lol
I knew a guy in school who looked like Nate and was like him in some ways.
He was good at sports, very good at studies and got good grades cuz he wanted to impress his rich parents and make a future for himself and he was an ass sometimes to people and his classmates but I knew deep down below all his confidence and bravado was a vulnerable boy and we kind of always ruffled each others feathers but then slowly we started getting used to each other and we even had good conversations and did some creative stuff...I ended up falling for him but I knew it would be a disaster and heartbreak for us both cuz we were too volatile sometimes so we ended up splitting after school and never remained in contact...its been 5 years since I last saw him.
I will always carry a piece of that personality and his energy with me though cuz it was too intense..I guess this is why maddy was so obsessed with Nate.
People like Nate are like drugs. They hook you on with intense emotions but are fatal to your mental health.
I don’t agree that McKay has *none* of the resources Nate has. Yes he’s a black man in the US so there’s definitely certain privileges he doesn’t have that Nate does. That being said, the party in S1E1 was at McKay’s. Clearly his family has money (look at his house vs Rue’s for example or even Cassie, Kat, or Maddie). His little brothers bankroll Kat’s shopping spree after her video is leaked. So he’s definitely doing better materially than some other characters on the show. Plus I’m confident enough to say his family is less dysfunctional than Nate’s.
And yet he’s not as successful. Soooo how did you miss the point?
@@Leavemealonethanks1 I literally said he’s a black man in America so he doesn’t have all the advantages but I also wanted to point out that he’s from a rich family so he has more privileges than a black kid from a poor family. That’s my point smh
I've never heard someone break down his character this concisely, great job! This clarified and put words to so much of what I was thinking about him
This actor is seriously incredible as nate...
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