Thanks for your comment. And we all have our own perspective. While I was not a Marine or infantry soldier in Vietnam, my experience there shaped mine. So I don't necessarily fault what others do, but I will never own, or feature a Kalashnikov rifle. The one exception is the SKS I brought back from Vietnam. I sold that 45 years ago.
if the M1 carbine had used a cartridge that broke past 1900 fps, say 2200 fps, then it might be regarded as the first firearm of the military assault rifle categry - well, at least the M2 with its full auto capability would then meet all the qualifications. One of the criticisms of the M1 was with its magazines, that they would soon get fussy and not seat well. The old SKS with its 10 round stripper clip bypasses any such issue. Wonder how well an SKS and stripper clip ammo would have done being stowed, say in a tank. Wish had a specimen of both to see which would be the more compact and light weight
@@TheSulross considering they made 6 million of the darn things, finding magazines was never supposed to be an issue or keeping them a long-term thing.
There was/is the .22 Spitfire conversion for the M1 Carbine by Melvin Johnson (the "Johnson" behind the M1941 Johnson rifle and 1941 Johnson light machine gun) that could push a 40 grain bullet around 3000 fps Shame it didn't go very far. Maybe could have been able to extend the military career of M1 Carbines.
My dad was in the Third Marines during WW II, and being in mortars carried a 30 caliber carbine. I even have a photo of him with it slung over his shoulder. It was good to see it in action. I don’t run across many videos of that particular weapon. Thanks.
I just subscribed to your channel. Great video on the M1 and Black Hawk. I have a few M1 carbines and finally picked up a Ruger in 30 carbine at an auction. I would love to have that 1968 Guns and Ammo magazine. Do you want to sell it?
Good morning George! I haven't seen a Mule for over 52 years. I enjoyed the video. Bought my first handgun, a Ruger B.H. in 30 Carbine caliber, in '68 when they first came out. Traded it 😖 for a 357 B.H. when I came back to the real world in '71. I carried a Armorer shortened M2 carbine into the villages when providing security for our Corpsman on his visits to the villagers. Thanks for bringing back some good memories.
@@TargetSuite May have, you never know. I traveled the roads and waterways of the delta to places like Ben Luc, My Tho, Muc Hoa, Tan An, Ben Keo and the likes. Always used to think what that beautiful country would be like less the war.
My dad has a 3 screw 30 carbine Black Hawk and it is a sweet shooter . The most accurate Black Hawk I know of. H110 powder and the Speer 110 gr. hollow point really can shoot . The Speer 100 gr plinker made for some affordable shooting in my youth. The 30 Carbine was the first cartridge I started loading for at age 11. Been hooked ever since. Thank you, George
Thanks for your comment Jay! I really enjoyed shooting that 30 carbine revolver, and if I had more time and space I would like to add one of those and an M1 carbine to the fold.
@@TargetSuite George, that reminds of the great deals in firearms I passed on. Over 20 years ago there was this small company that was selling brand new likerebuilt M1 carbines at a gun show in Houston. They were beautiful and looked like they came off the assembly line. The receivers were made by different manufacturers. They would allow the purchaser to pick out the brand they wanted.Not beat up surplus. Found out they had built the M1 Carbines for the South Vietnamese army back in the sixties. One of my brothers friends purchase one that day.. The following day they went to test fire. They could more often than not , hit a coke can at a measured hundred yards shooting from a bench.
Enjoyed your video. Took me back to mid 70’s when through a trade I ended up with a 30 caliber Blackhawk. Loved the Blackhawk found the 30 carbide round very hard on my ears. The hearing protection from the 70’s had a lot to improve. Keep up your videos many persons I know enjoy them. Be safe.
Yes, the .30 Carbine round does spit, flash, and kick a lot in a revolver. It is NOT a handgun round despite the appearance! I have data in an older reloading manual for handgun loads.
Bought the 30 carbine Black Hawk In 1980. Also had the carbine and the 30 carbine Pistol (it had the round bolt instead of the flat one). I often wonder what they are all worth today. Be safe.
I am an old grown men, and would make me smile, if you make a video on this beautiful M1 carbine. Thank you for your videos, enjoy very much watching it. Take care.
i had two mules, 4 wheel steer models, with front rope start. Added a john deere seat for passenger and another foot basket and old school bus seat across the rear for passengers. Also overhauled the engines, having trouble finding parts, but my skillful machinist friend measured the parts and found that subaru pistons would work and rod and main bearings from an international farm tractor of some model would work. I had the two cylinder engine, not the 4 cyl. Axle shafts dont go to wheels but to bull gear at the end and into a drop box for good ground clearance. As i remember, the body was magnesium so you couldnt weld to it, but it was strong and light. NO differentials, straight drive, solid locked all 4 wheels so in a turn some wheels skidded being as they followed different radiuses in the turn. Found that aircraft water proof plugs from my airport repair services were the correct temp range and water proof. The engine air intake is near your feet out front so i added a flexible hose to that and routed it up the steering column to just below the steering wheel. I have photos of me driving in a lake near my home with only the steering wheel and air intake and my shoulders above water!! Kept them both for several years and sold long ago for 2500 each. The ruger 30 cal my dad bought when they first came out and i still have it. The noisest pistol ive ever owned!! Thanks for your video.
George; Absolutely! The M1 carbine is a wonderful round. Please dispell the weakness myth around the .30 carbine round. It deserves the respect it's earned in military service.
@@TargetSuite - The "weak" myth came from (somewhat) soldiers trying to make the carbine do everything the Garand did, and (primarily), Korea soldiers who had a lot of trouble. Their problems were twofold. 1. The extreme cold stiffened the lubes to such a degree that the guns would fail to cycle, and 2. The ammo sent to Korea had hot weather deterents in the powder. Hmmmm, hot weather deterents in ammo being used in minus 20F weather sounds like a big problem. My uncle said that he and his soldiers stripped all the oils and lubricated with graphite. Then they carried the mags under their parkas. He said when they did that, the carbine did its job. He also said he carried both the carbine and the Garand. He used the Garand until the enemy was within 100 yards, then switched to the carbine. Once they were that close 15 and 30 round mags were a lot better than 8 round clips. Unfortunately for the carbine, those Korea Era soldiers really talked bad about it instead of addressing the actual issues.
@@greybone777 - I had actually heard that the 9mm was more lethal than the 45acp because of those kapok overcoats. The coats apparently slowed the 45 down enough that a lethal hit wasn't always guaranteed, but the 9mm would get through well enough to deliver a lethal wound. Consequently, considering the hot weather deterents in the powder, and the slowing effects of frozen oils, I would accept that story about the carbine as true on its face. But again, that should have been a "fixable" problem.
@@TargetSuite M1 carbine 30 caliber has more foot pounds of energy than a 44 Magnum. So if you were grizzly bear country which one would you rather have M1 or 44 Magnum. just saying.
George; I dig the "mule". The upgrade for the Army was the "Gamma Goat" a 6 X 6, that was a literally go anywhere platform that we used in the late '70's and early '80's in Korea. It's wonderful to see surplus gear getting another life after service. Nice job.
No disrespect intended Mr Corcoran, but the Gama Goat was not an "upgrade" for anything. It was an automotive abortion. Six wheel drive, four wheel steering, powered by, if memory serves a Cummins 3cyl marine diesel. It supposedly could swim in calm water, but would swamp and sink if a small trout swam past. And getting in and out? Well if you were in the tractor cab and ambushed, your best option was to just go ahead and shoot yourself. Getting out of the passenger seat was measured in minutes not seconds, and getting out from under and behind the steering wheel was measured with a calendar.
The Gamma Goat was a six wheeled, 3 cylinder engine powered, fully articulated vehicle designed to be able to go anywhere under any condition...it was a miserable fsilure...I was in Germany with the Army from Nov 71 to Jul 74...we got them in HHC 4/35 Armor..our 1st Sgt called thrm " Gummy Goats"...we git thrm in 1973...by the time I left in Jul 74...we had none...that vehicle is a Mule...a late friend of mine owned a restored one that he used at re-enactor shows...
Sweet. Yes. M1 Carbine video. I bought 10 in the 90s when they hit the import market, $150 each. Gave several away and let friends have a few at cost. I kept an IBM marked one. Fun little rifle.
Thanks George, I've got a couple of carbines. I shoot them quite a bit. I fired a friend's. 30 Blackhawk. It was a great gun, but loud! I didn't realize Ruger was still making the Blackhawk in that caliber. ,Keep the great videos coming!
My Dad was a 1st Sargent in WWII. He survived the Battle of the Bulge and carried an MI Carbine. I bought an Inland reproduction MI a few years ago cause I figured I couldn’t afford an original. Paid a hefty sum for it only to find later I could have bought an original for not much more. Kinda bummed but I’m happy with what I got. Took awhile to break it in. Now it shoots great. Thanks for the fun video George.
Well done. I too have both--my M1 carbine is also an Inland. It was rough as a cob when I got it, I refinished the stock. It shoots well, if a bit high at a hundred yards. My Blackhawk was bought used, an older one. It is very accurate, produces huge fireballs and is LOUD. Recoil is surprisingly mild, though. I gather all .30 carbine Blackhawks have 7.5" barrels.
Had an ex-Uncle that had a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 cal back in the early 70s. I was a teenager at the time and I thought it was a great gun. I always love single actions and Ruger is usually my choice for a short gun. They’ve always worked well for me. Nice video. That M1 carbine is a nice bit of history too. I haven’t seen a Ruger in that cal. For many yrs. that Underwood round looks like it takes it’s job seriously. Nice mule too.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. This is my second time to shoot the 30 carbine round. The first was with this same M1 Carbine a few months ago.
Yes to the carbine video. I once owned a 30 carbine Blackhawk and to this day I hate I sold it. I load and shoot the carbine still and it’s one of my favorite rifles.
I got a DCM Carbine in the mid 1960s for Christmas, still have it. Carried one in the field as a teen and used one in law enforcement, including my own Inland Carbine. My old CSM carried one on hog hunts and really enjoyed it. I seem to recall these were not to be used with GI BALL but CSM St.John probably did. Can't remember. Yes do one on the U.S. M1 Carbine. Audie Murphy Carried one of these in WW2.
Nice ... I was born in July 1968. Cool video ... I've wanted an M1 Carbine but am not a fan of the price tag even for a replica. I'm good with my Mini-14 currently as a firearm of that type until I find a decent deal on an M1 carbine in .30 .... nice rifle and enjoy your videos.
It's a Chevy! Yes, Inland was a division of GM. I have a commercially manufactured M1 carbine to go with that revolver. I haven't fired that revolver yet so I appreciate you getting it sighted in. Both appear to be very accurate. Good shooting George! Thanks. Love the mule. What a great way to get around the farm.
@@TargetSuite If some of your viewers were counting the clicks when you cocked the hammer, the extra click comes from the half-cock notch because of the Power Custom half-cock hammer I installed. That also helped to reduce the trigger pull.
Great video, George. My father picked up 2 later war (1944) Inland carbines in the 60s which we used as truck guns on the ranch. I want to say he paid about $20 each for them, but that was a long time ago and I don't exactly recall.. They were great for the purpose of a ranch/truck rifle and I always loved how handy and easy to shoot they were. Millions were sold surplus in the 60s. Ammo was cheap and I suppose it was only natural Ruger jumped on that with it's popular Blackhawk. I never owned or even fired a .30 Carbine revolver, but if you're going to chamber a revolver in a rimless case, better to do it in a single action, rod ejector like a Blackhawk. I was never an SA revolver guy, preferring DA revolvers. The cartridge was always handicapped in a revolver, IMO, by the lack of bullets and suitable loads that could take advantage of the revolver and still function in the carbine. A .357 magnum revolver could handle bullets from 110 gr. to 180 gr. and light .38 Special loads as well. You just don't have that versatility with a .30 Carbine. Yes, I would like to see a video from you on the carbine. After my father passed away and the family decided to sell the ranch (i was out voted) I did manage to claim one of the .30 carbines and still shoot it occasionally with a cast lead 115 gr. RN bullet made from straight wheelweights with a gas check. In the nearly 90s you could still buy them for $150. Now they are just stupid expensive and the ammo isn't cheap anymore!
@@WALTERBROADDUS "Used to" being the operative words. Yes, several manufacturers have made DA revolvers for various rimless cartridges, a few do right now (9mm and 10mm come to mind). None have ever been what you call a commercial success. Probably the best success and longest running, was the S&W Model 25 in .45 ACP. But only because it was targeted to the Bullseye competition crowd and was preferred by guys who liked to use revolvers for that competition, and that competition requires the use of the .45 ACP cartridge in one stage. The rod ejection of an SA at least avoids the ejection trouble and the nuisance of "moon clips" of a DA revolver, but headspacing the case on the tiny little edge of the case mouth in a revolver where each cartridge in it's chamber has to undergo the recoil of the others as they are fired is a flawed concept. Works OK in a semi-auto where the other cartridges are held in a magazine, not individual chambers AND the base of the case is held against the breech face by the extractor while in the chamber. The WW1 logistical expedient of chambering revolvers for the .45 ACP was never intended to be a recommendation of the practice. FWIW I do own a Colt Model 1917 in .45 ACP but have never fired a .45 ACP cartridge in it. I use .45 Auto Rim casings exclusively in that revolver.
In 1964 the old man bought 2 Carbines and a Springfield off the Feds. 20 bucks each. I got the Springfield and a Carbine my brother got the other. Still have them. The Springfield never saw service. . The Carbines didn't look used but were missing the oilers. I got the oilers and slings from Apex. Shooting them since I was 9. I picked up a couple of thousand rounds just before BranDum showed up. When I take people out to shoot the Carbine is always the favorite.
Love both of those guns but what really made me smile was the Mule. My first duty station was Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and we had Mules with recoilless rifles as part of the arsenal. I'd love to find one.
good video, i inherited a Ruger in 30 carbine from my father. i own a carbine made by National Postal meter, because of your video i'm going to have to take them to the range next time I go. heve not shot either one in years.
If you shoot the Blackhawk at dusk, the fireball it makes is quite impressive. A lot of propellant goes out the barrel unburned because of the shorter barrel. It ignites after the bullet leaves the muzzle and produces the loud boom and fireball.
The 30 carbine Black Hawk is the loudest firearm I have ever shot. I have no doubt it is responsible for most of my hearing loss. The 44 mag and 357 mags for some reason were not as loud.
Great job George. .30 carbine seems to have been overlooked post war in my neck of the woods. Can become awesome with the advent of 'New' rounds. A carbine/pistol short range hunter is perfect in a lot of America. Do more!!! Hurry up and take your time. Semper Fi
That's a good question Mark. They both probably have about the same accuracy potential, but the carbine is easier to get accurate shots downrange just because of its longer site radius.
I’ve had one of those ruger blackhawk s on backorder for about a year now. Just waiting patiently for them to get it built and shipped to me. Got it to compliment a winchester built m1 i bought from midway usa they had found in italy that had been in storage there since the 50’s.
Which brand was you able to train the casing to perform the double-back, forward flip offa your head??(gave it a 9.7) LOL!! Shuda grabbed it up/ did a mantle-trophy-mount!!
As a youth, I absolutely loved the M1 30 carbine, and I still love it today! It is light, accurate, and has virtually no recoil. It is easy to point and shoot, for both youngster and adult alike. I remember my best friend (who served in World War II) saying that if he had only one firearm he could take with him (if society fell apart), it would be the M1 30 carbine... However, the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine is the single worst revolver I have ever owned. I bought two of these, and ended up trading both of them away. The M1 30 carbine and 30 carbine in the AMT Automag III is a stellar combination. I bought an AMT Automag III when these first came out, bought extra magazines with it, and have never been disappointed. With the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine, shooting the same rounds I shot in my M1 carbine, resulted in these rounds sticking in the cylinder, and this was only one of the multiple problems I experienced. This was the case for both of my 3-screw Blackhawks. However, the AMT Automag III could handle these same rounds accurately and reliably, with no functional problems whatsoever. I loaded many drastically reduced 30 carbine combinations in an attempt to help the Ruger Blackhawk function accurately and reliably, making sure the cylinders were cleaned properly, etc. Nothing I did made a difference with the abismal Blackhawk performance. So I don't recommend the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine under any circumstance. If you are going to pair an M1 30 carbine with a handgun, then I recommend pairing it with an AMT Automag III if you can find one. Incidentally, I love every other Ruger 3-screw Blackhawk I own, especially the convertibles, and I will always love my AMT Automag III, and my WWII original M1 30 carbine...
Hi George,first off yes more on that M1 for sure! That would be awesome. Those two are a amazing combo. Wow that Lehigh cavitator is devastating. Your single action shooting is getting very good. Shooting one handed is not as easy as people sometimes think lol. Liked the into well done Sir! Enjoy your videos a lot George.
Thank you Terry. I really appreciate that! It was a five day video. The first take was pretty rough but it laid a foundation to build on for days two and three. Then editing was 12 hours spread over days four and five. Loved every minute (almost)😉
@@TargetSuite holly cow George that's a lot of time and effort into this video, and it shows! Thank you for all your hard work and time! Always look forward to seeing a new video from you.
My grandfather had a m1 carbine when I was a child but he used it as a payment for his Toyota Corolla's paint job, great shooter that's the first gun that I'd shot.
Correct George, it does make sense!! I have a 30 Carbine, but haven't seen the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine for sale (available) in a long time. I WANT ONE!! lol... Bill
I love seeing old mil surp guns and I didn't know ruger made the blackhawk in 30 carbine. Now I kind of want one lol. Good video. Love the M274 mule also. I wish I could get one.
@@TargetSuite The history on the carbine & also on the lesser known Johnson carbine are interesting. Can't figure out why they don't teach it in school. Lol
Haha! I'll warn you, it will probably still shoot high, even with the sights adjusted. By the way, that "other" M1 carbine would be a great addition to the focused video I am planning. Maybe you can negotiate a loan for me😉
Oh man, the mule brings back memories of Ft. Campbell (late '70s & early 80's). It was an easy choice (when we had a choice) over the Jeep and Gamma Goat. Not because it was tactically superior, but because cleanup from the Campbell mud was a breeze. Two of us would lay it on its side and then hose and scrub it clean. Just had to make sure the motor pool sergeant was not watching. ;-)
My very first deer hunting rifle was an M-1 carbine with two 15 round magazines almost exactly like the one you are shooting. On my very first hunt I killed a 4 point and a big nanny in the very first try. Both deer were together and managed to unload on them. My Dad told me to just put 5 rounds in the mag but I just loaded a magazine full. Either it was a good thing that I did or a bad thing for not listening to him but either way I would have only been able to get one deer but not both. I unloaded on the buck about 4 rounds and then while the doe was running I managed to kill it too through rapid fire. Every other hunter around me hit the dirt when I started shooting though. I guess my adrenaline was way high. One of the hunters said it sounded like the war and he had been in combat in WW2 in Europe. That little rifle is a great hunting rifle and still is. It has never failed to shoot over the many years I have had it. No better rifle for a youth hunter except you must limit the magazine to 5 rounds. I was 11 y/o and thought I was a full grown man with that little rifle.
@@TargetSuite I don't recommend it either, as a matter of fact my 18 y/o nephew needed a deer rifle so I gave him a 30-06 Reminton bolt rifle instead of the SKS M model he wanted to use. It's a pretty rare SKS that uses any type of AK-47 magazine. t comes with two 5 round magazines for hunting but it is too easy to buy a 30 round magazine to go into it. I also have several of those.
Nice guns, glad you enjoy them. I have found no practical use for either personally. At least you can get something other than hardball for them now. Other calibers way more versatile for me.
I sure understand your logic. And thank you for sharing. Personally, and apart from carry and home defense purposes, I don't choose guns based on their practicality. I choose guns that I will enjoy. Gun designs of all types and from all periods of firearm history. And with that said, the M1 carbine is steeped in American history . . . and a hoot to shoot💥😉
Great time travel from 1968 which also included the Mule from the same time period. I looked up reloading data for the .30 carbine to see if compared to the .350 Legend. The .350 Legend is a little straight wall which resembles the .30 carbine and fights way above it's weight. The heaviest bullet I could find for the .30 was 130 grains and with a maximum powder charge still wouldn't crack the 2000 fps barrier. The .350 Legend slings 180 grain bullets still above 2000 fps. Chamber pressures were very similar. Your open sights shooting is pretty darned good!
I would like to have the revolver to go with my carbine, but I have always wondered what the recoil of the revolver would be like. Can it be compared to .45 Long Colt, .357 Mag, or .44 Mag ?
Love my 30 carbine Blackhawk revolver❤ It's a fire breathing dragon, lots of muzzle flash. My friend uses his to hunt coyote. He is very accurate at 75 yards or more. Great video. Thanks BTW I was given some 110gr lead bullets, going to load them to about 850-900 fps. Should be a good plinking round? Equal to a 32-20 load.
I happen to have 2 Inland Carbines. I also have a .30 carbine Blackhawk serial #3165...it has white plastic grips and no box. I picked it up a few yrs back. Its in perfect condition and dont believe its ever been fired. Can you tell me if the Ruger Blackhawk came factory with the white plastic grips or were they swapped? Tnx Tom
I've got a first year production 44 mag Blackhawk. It has not had the transfer bar added. The trigger breaks like a tiny glass rod. It is a very pleasant gun to shoot. If anyone is on the fence about getting older Ruger revolver I'd say go for it.
I love the Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine and have owned one for many years. It is equal to a .32 Magnum with a 7 1/2" barrel. The only draw back is you have to watch your brass length when reloading.
What does the head of that small axe, large hatchet say, was it made in St. Louis, MO., and did your grandpa give it to you? I have one with a diamond logo on it, that Russ Weber Sr., had. It would have been interesting if you had backed up the clay blocks with frozen milk jugs with water or several telephone books duct taped together and recovered the .30 caliber bullets.
The M1 Carbine is a great weapon light you can take it with you anywhere not heavy and comfortable to used I been trying to get my hands on one but is becoming difficult because is a collective item 👍
BTW Brownells has/had a scout style piccatiny rail rail that replaces the upper hand guard ,with a long eye relief scope my groups went from over 6 inches to less than 2 at 100 yards
Bought one of these in 1987 for 125 dollars a 44 Inland i've put Thousands of rounds through it when ammo was cheap! what a nice weapon I'm going to dig it out of the safe and get some of those 85 grain Cavitator bullets for home defence.jim
The M1 Carbine. Love the 30 cal round. Been looking to buy one of these for over 30 years. Trying to find one in excellent shape is about ZERO. The 30 carbine got a bad rap way back when and really hasn't recovered. I've heard 100s & 100s of folks badmouth them but truth is, they can't shoot shit without a scope.
I love the M1 carbine, but alas I am selling my restored by Miltech M1 with crate and ammo to the right buyer in Florida or who has an ffl for transfer. This is a beauty! Its a working collectable. Unfortunately age creeps up and we cant take them with us or can we?
In my collection, I have a WWII Inland M1 Carbine, a post war, scoped Universal M1 Carbine, a Universal Enforcer M1 pistol and a Ruger 30 Carbine Blackhawk. So yes I would welcome an M1 Carbine specific video. I colect military rifles and pistols as a subset of my main collection of guns with triggers that go bang.
I found the adjustable rear sight to be a downgrade to be honest. The older L sight let's in more ambient light into the aperture; the Korean War sight is terrible in low light conditions
Great combo, love to have both. My neighbor has the rifle, shot it and loved it. Funny, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the second block of clay.
I got a 1943 M1 Bought it from the old man he brought it back from Europe it’s hardly been fired he was a desk clerk, 10 years ago for 600 it’s inland gmc
Great, I've been looking for a video where a block of Clay was hit with an M1 Carbine round to show the impact it has. Saw one years ago, but couldn't find it again.
I've had a. 30carbine for quite some time (over 20 yrs) but still undecided about the Ruger .30 carbine, I've heard good and bad ssooo still thinking . AMT made a semiautomatic 30 yrs back but they're hard to find and command a premium.
It is boxed up and headed back to Ruger on Monday. I talked to customer service and the "smith" said he would re-clock the barrel and make it shoot to my point of aim based on the targets I sent.
@@TargetSuite , I reloaded mine…..cases stretched like crazy. Factory rounds left a lot of unburnt powder which fouled the cylinder bores. I had to brush out chambers before reloading, otherwise new cartridges would not fully seat and would bind up the cylinder. I remember having to turn the cylinder by hand to cock the hammer. A single flake of powder could wedge in the taper of the case. Other than that it was a beast. I almost regret trading that thing off for a .357 magnum.
I appreciate your comment. I would call the 30 carbine revolver a great gun to have as part of a broader collection. But I wouldn't want it to be the only one in my safe.
No I don't really want to see another youtube video about the M1 carbine. However there's not much about the M2 carbine out there. When I was about to go Nomad in LA CA. I asked a friend(who had served as an MP in Vietnam w/USMC) to hold on to my hardware, and he loved seeing my M1. Turns out he had captured one in country and carried it till he came back. It was an M2, but close enough. 3:30
My one experience with the M1 carbine was a commercial Universal model that couldn’t keep it’s bullets on a paper plate at 25 yards. It was such a discouraging experience that I sold it and bought something else. I probably would have kept it if the rifle was accurate. At the time I figured that I could get an AK and shoot much cheaper ammunition and I got a lot better accuracy to boot.
That's a bummer about your M1 carbine. But I understand. I brought an SKS back from vietnam. I couldn't hit a trash can lid with it at 25 yards. It didn't stick around very long.
The jam o matic function was the only function that worked on my universal m1 carbine. 😅😅 Took it to a shop for consignment. And bought an Underwood m1 carbine from 1943. Same day.
The M1 Carbine would have been a winner if they had made it to use a necked cartridge. Give me a SKS instead.
Thanks for your comment. And we all have our own perspective. While I was not a Marine or infantry soldier in Vietnam, my experience there shaped mine. So I don't necessarily fault what others do, but I will never own, or feature a Kalashnikov rifle. The one exception is the SKS I brought back from Vietnam. I sold that 45 years ago.
if the M1 carbine had used a cartridge that broke past 1900 fps, say 2200 fps, then it might be regarded as the first firearm of the military assault rifle categry - well, at least the M2 with its full auto capability would then meet all the qualifications.
One of the criticisms of the M1 was with its magazines, that they would soon get fussy and not seat well. The old SKS with its 10 round stripper clip bypasses any such issue. Wonder how well an SKS and stripper clip ammo would have done being stowed, say in a tank. Wish had a specimen of both to see which would be the more compact and light weight
@@TheSulross considering they made 6 million of the darn things, finding magazines was never supposed to be an issue or keeping them a long-term thing.
There was/is the .22 Spitfire conversion for the M1 Carbine by Melvin Johnson (the "Johnson" behind the M1941 Johnson rifle and 1941 Johnson light machine gun) that could push a 40 grain bullet around 3000 fps
Shame it didn't go very far. Maybe could have been able to extend the military career of M1 Carbines.
@@TheSulross Paul Harrell did a.video covering such a topic. The 110 grain softpoints were average around 2000 fps
My dad was in the Third Marines during WW II, and being in mortars carried a 30 caliber carbine. I even have a photo of him with it slung over his shoulder. It was good to see it in action. I don’t run across many videos of that particular weapon. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing. I'm sure you treasure that picture.
My Dad carried one in Korea. I have an Auto Ordinance repro and love it. Handy little carbine!
Thanks for watching! BTW, I called out the clay blocks backwards. The first block shown was "cavitated" by the Blackhawk
That is fine, we all knew what you meant. A very minor mistake is fine in such a good video.
I just subscribed to your channel. Great video on the M1 and Black Hawk. I have a few M1 carbines and finally picked up a Ruger in 30 carbine at an auction.
I would love to have that 1968 Guns and Ammo magazine. Do you want to sell it?
Good morning George! I haven't seen a Mule for over 52 years. I enjoyed the video. Bought my first handgun, a Ruger B.H. in 30 Carbine caliber, in '68 when they first came out. Traded it 😖 for a 357 B.H. when I came back to the real world in '71. I carried a Armorer shortened M2 carbine into the villages when providing security for our Corpsman on his visits to the villagers. Thanks for bringing back some good memories.
Gosh Wayne, we may have crossed paths. I came back to the world in February of '72
@@TargetSuite May have, you never know. I traveled the roads and waterways of the delta to places like Ben Luc, My Tho, Muc Hoa, Tan An, Ben Keo and the likes. Always used to think what that beautiful country would be like less the war.
My dad has a 3 screw 30 carbine Black Hawk and it is a sweet shooter . The most accurate Black Hawk I know of. H110 powder and the Speer 110 gr. hollow point really can shoot . The Speer 100 gr plinker made for some affordable shooting in my youth. The 30 Carbine was the first cartridge I started loading for at age 11. Been hooked ever since.
Thank you, George
Thanks for your comment Jay! I really enjoyed shooting that 30 carbine revolver, and if I had more time and space I would like to add one of those and an M1 carbine to the fold.
@@TargetSuite George, that reminds of the great deals in firearms I passed on. Over 20 years ago there was this small company that was selling brand new likerebuilt M1 carbines at a gun show in Houston. They were beautiful and looked like they came off the assembly line. The receivers were made by different manufacturers. They would allow the purchaser to pick out the brand they wanted.Not beat up surplus. Found out they had built the M1 Carbines for the South Vietnamese army back in the sixties.
One of my brothers friends purchase one that day.. The following day they went to test fire. They could more often than not , hit a coke can at a measured hundred yards shooting from a bench.
Enjoyed your video. Took me back to mid 70’s when through a trade I ended up with a 30 caliber Blackhawk. Loved the Blackhawk found the 30 carbide round very hard on my ears. The hearing protection from the 70’s had a lot to improve. Keep up your videos many persons I know enjoy them. Be safe.
Thank you sir! I appreciate that!
Yes, the .30 Carbine round does spit, flash, and kick a lot in a revolver. It is NOT a handgun round despite the appearance! I have data in an older reloading manual for handgun loads.
Loud as Hades seemed to be the biggest gripe
Bought the 30 carbine Black Hawk In 1980. Also had the carbine and the 30 carbine Pistol (it had the round bolt instead of the flat one). I often wonder what they are all worth today. Be safe.
I am an old grown men, and would make me smile, if you make a video on this beautiful M1 carbine. Thank you for your videos, enjoy very much watching it. Take care.
Thank you for watching!
i had two mules, 4 wheel steer models, with front rope start. Added a john deere seat for passenger and another foot basket and old school bus seat across the rear for passengers. Also overhauled the engines, having trouble finding parts, but my skillful machinist friend measured the parts and found that subaru pistons would work and rod and main bearings from an international farm tractor of some model would work. I had the two cylinder engine, not the 4 cyl. Axle shafts dont go to wheels but to bull gear at the end and into a drop box for good ground clearance. As i remember, the body was magnesium so you couldnt weld to it, but it was strong and light. NO differentials, straight drive, solid locked all 4 wheels so in a turn some wheels skidded being as they followed different radiuses in the turn. Found that aircraft water proof plugs from my airport repair services were the correct temp range and water proof. The engine air intake is near your feet out front so i added a flexible hose to that and routed it up the steering column to just below the steering wheel. I have photos of me driving in a lake near my home with only the steering wheel and air intake and my shoulders above water!! Kept them both for several years and sold long ago for 2500 each. The ruger 30 cal my dad bought when they first came out and i still have it. The noisest pistol ive ever owned!! Thanks for your video.
I thoroughly enjoy oyur vlogs. You are not overly critical, simple in explanation and most of all, you have fun doing it. Thanks Much!
Thanks for your hard work and for bearing that heat to bring us another great video. The combos are my favorite! And that Mule is really special!
I appreciate that! Thank you for watching!
George; Absolutely! The M1 carbine is a wonderful round. Please dispell the weakness myth around the .30 carbine round. It deserves the respect it's earned in military service.
Yes that weakness label gets passed around to easily. Just from my casual research on finding a lot of counter opinions.
@@TargetSuite - The "weak" myth came from (somewhat) soldiers trying to make the carbine do everything the Garand did, and (primarily), Korea soldiers who had a lot of trouble. Their problems were twofold. 1. The extreme cold stiffened the lubes to such a degree that the guns would fail to cycle, and 2. The ammo sent to Korea had hot weather deterents in the powder. Hmmmm, hot weather deterents in ammo being used in minus 20F weather sounds like a big problem. My uncle said that he and his soldiers stripped all the oils and lubricated with graphite. Then they carried the mags under their parkas. He said when they did that, the carbine did its job. He also said he carried both the carbine and the Garand. He used the Garand until the enemy was within 100 yards, then switched to the carbine. Once they were that close 15 and 30 round mags were a lot better than 8 round clips. Unfortunately for the carbine, those Korea Era soldiers really talked bad about it instead of addressing the actual issues.
In Korea in the winter, the Chinese when hit at over 200 yards would pick the rounds out of their kapok overcoats.
@@greybone777 - I had actually heard that the 9mm was more lethal than the 45acp because of those kapok overcoats. The coats apparently slowed the 45 down enough that a lethal hit wasn't always guaranteed, but the 9mm would get through well enough to deliver a lethal wound. Consequently, considering the hot weather deterents in the powder, and the slowing effects of frozen oils, I would accept that story about the carbine as true on its face. But again, that should have been a "fixable" problem.
@@TargetSuite M1 carbine 30 caliber has more foot pounds of energy than a 44 Magnum. So if you were grizzly bear country which one would you rather have M1 or 44 Magnum. just saying.
George; I dig the "mule". The upgrade for the Army was the "Gamma Goat" a 6 X 6, that was a literally go anywhere platform that we used in the late '70's and early '80's in Korea. It's wonderful to see surplus gear getting another life after service. Nice job.
Thanks!
No disrespect intended Mr Corcoran, but the Gama Goat was not an "upgrade" for anything. It was an automotive abortion. Six wheel drive, four wheel steering, powered by, if memory serves a Cummins 3cyl marine diesel. It supposedly could swim in calm water, but would swamp and sink if a small trout swam past. And getting in and out? Well if you were in the tractor cab and ambushed, your best option was to just go ahead and shoot yourself. Getting out of the passenger seat was measured in minutes not seconds, and getting out from under and behind the steering wheel was measured with a calendar.
The Gamma Goat was a six wheeled, 3 cylinder engine powered, fully articulated vehicle designed to be able to go anywhere under any condition...it was a miserable fsilure...I was in Germany with the Army from Nov 71 to Jul 74...we got them in HHC 4/35 Armor..our 1st Sgt called thrm " Gummy Goats"...we git thrm in 1973...by the time I left in Jul 74...we had none...that vehicle is a Mule...a late friend of mine owned a restored one that he used at re-enactor shows...
It takes 40 acres to turn the goat around.
The gamma goat was prone to acts of spontaneous combustion. I saw more than one simply catch fire and burn up.
Sweet. Yes. M1 Carbine video. I bought 10 in the 90s when they hit the import market, $150 each. Gave several away and let friends have a few at cost. I kept an IBM marked one. Fun little rifle.
Thanks George, I've got a couple of carbines. I shoot them quite a bit. I fired a friend's. 30 Blackhawk. It was a great gun, but loud! I didn't realize Ruger was still making the Blackhawk in that caliber. ,Keep the great videos coming!
Thanks for watching!
My Dad was a 1st Sargent in WWII. He survived the Battle of the Bulge and carried an MI Carbine. I bought an Inland reproduction MI a few years ago cause I figured I couldn’t afford an original. Paid a hefty sum for it only to find later I could have bought an original for not much more. Kinda bummed but I’m happy with what I got. Took awhile to break it in. Now it shoots great. Thanks for the fun video George.
Thanks for sharing your dad's story Dug! And thank you for watching!
Very nice video , would enjoy seeing more on the pair. Alot of history, blood , sweat and tears with the M1. Thank you .
Thanks. I'll have both guns for a little while so I will be making more content.
Gosh, that buggy is spectacular. A cooking table, firewood totter and mobile junk drawer. I love it!
Yes and it was covered in junk in the barn. It took me 30 minutes to get it cleaned up and out of there.😄
Well done. I too have both--my M1 carbine is also an Inland. It was rough as a cob when I got it, I refinished the stock. It shoots well, if a bit high at a hundred yards. My Blackhawk was bought used, an older one. It is very accurate, produces huge fireballs and is LOUD. Recoil is surprisingly mild, though. I gather all .30 carbine Blackhawks have 7.5" barrels.
I was really surprised at how much fun the pair are to have at the range together. And you are right about recoil. It just isn't very noticeable.
Had an ex-Uncle that had a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 cal back in the early 70s. I was a teenager at the time and I thought it was a great gun. I always love single actions and Ruger is usually my choice for a short gun. They’ve always worked well for me. Nice video. That M1 carbine is a nice bit of history too. I haven’t seen a Ruger in that cal. For many yrs. that Underwood round looks like it takes it’s job seriously. Nice mule too.
Thanks for watching and thanks for the comment. This is my second time to shoot the 30 carbine round. The first was with this same M1 Carbine a few months ago.
Yes to the carbine video. I once owned a 30 carbine Blackhawk and to this day I hate I sold it. I load and shoot the carbine still and it’s one of my favorite rifles.
Excellent! Thanks!
I got a DCM Carbine in the mid 1960s for Christmas, still have it. Carried one in the field as a teen and used one in law enforcement, including my own Inland Carbine. My old CSM carried one on hog hunts and really enjoyed it. I seem to recall these were not to be used with GI BALL but CSM St.John probably did. Can't remember. Yes do one on the U.S. M1 Carbine. Audie Murphy Carried one of these in WW2.
Thanks for sharing! I read a post where somebody said, "If it was good enough for Audie Murphy it's good enough for me"
Absolutely love the M1 carbine, have an Inland 1944 all Inland parts purchased in late 50's, great shooter.
I forgot to mention it, but this one also had an Inland receiver. Thanks for your comment!
Nice mule, so jealous!
That .30 caliber Carbine and revolver is a great combo. Thanks for sharing it.
JT
You are welcome! Thank you for watching!
So many made by so many manufacturers in so short a time. Awesome video, as always, George. Excellent content and production value.
Thank you Charles!
Nice ... I was born in July 1968. Cool video ... I've wanted an M1 Carbine but am not a fan of the price tag even for a replica. I'm good with my Mini-14 currently as a firearm of that type until I find a decent deal on an M1 carbine in .30 .... nice rifle and enjoy your videos.
Thanks I appreciate that! And thank you for watching.
It's a Chevy! Yes, Inland was a division of GM. I have a commercially manufactured M1 carbine to go with that revolver. I haven't fired that revolver yet so I appreciate you getting it sighted in. Both appear to be very accurate. Good shooting George! Thanks. Love the mule. What a great way to get around the farm.
Thanks again, Roy! I tried to capture the fireball everyone had talked about, but none of this ammo would cooperate.
@@TargetSuite If some of your viewers were counting the clicks when you cocked the hammer, the extra click comes from the half-cock notch because of the Power Custom half-cock hammer I installed. That also helped to reduce the trigger pull.
Great video, George.
My father picked up 2 later war (1944) Inland carbines in the 60s which we used as truck guns on the ranch. I want to say he paid about $20 each for them, but that was a long time ago and I don't exactly recall.. They were great for the purpose of a ranch/truck rifle and I always loved how handy and easy to shoot they were. Millions were sold surplus in the 60s. Ammo was cheap and I suppose it was only natural Ruger jumped on that with it's popular Blackhawk.
I never owned or even fired a .30 Carbine revolver, but if you're going to chamber a revolver in a rimless case, better to do it in a single action, rod ejector like a Blackhawk. I was never an SA revolver guy, preferring DA revolvers.
The cartridge was always handicapped in a revolver, IMO, by the lack of bullets and suitable loads that could take advantage of the revolver and still function in the carbine. A .357 magnum revolver could handle bullets from 110 gr. to 180 gr. and light .38 Special loads as well. You just don't have that versatility with a .30 Carbine.
Yes, I would like to see a video from you on the carbine. After my father passed away and the family decided to sell the ranch (i was out voted) I did manage to claim one of the .30 carbines and still shoot it occasionally with a cast lead 115 gr. RN bullet made from straight wheelweights with a gas check.
In the nearly 90s you could still buy them for $150. Now they are just stupid expensive and the ammo isn't cheap anymore!
Great comment as always! Thanks!
Actually Taurus used to make a double action 30 carbine revolver.
@@WALTERBROADDUS "Used to" being the operative words.
Yes, several manufacturers have made DA revolvers for various rimless cartridges, a few do right now (9mm and 10mm come to mind). None have ever been what you call a commercial success.
Probably the best success and longest running, was the S&W Model 25 in .45 ACP. But only because it was targeted to the Bullseye competition crowd and was preferred by guys who liked to use revolvers for that competition, and that competition requires the use of the .45 ACP cartridge in one stage.
The rod ejection of an SA at least avoids the ejection trouble and the nuisance of "moon clips" of a DA revolver, but headspacing the case on the tiny little edge of the case mouth in a revolver where each cartridge in it's chamber has to undergo the recoil of the others as they are fired is a flawed concept. Works OK in a semi-auto where the other cartridges are held in a magazine, not individual chambers AND the base of the case is held against the breech face by the extractor while in the chamber.
The WW1 logistical expedient of chambering revolvers for the .45 ACP was never intended to be a recommendation of the practice.
FWIW I do own a Colt Model 1917 in .45 ACP but have never fired a .45 ACP cartridge in it. I use .45 Auto Rim casings exclusively in that revolver.
that was a real neat different kind of video! liked all 3 unique tools you put in this one George!
Two guns and a buggy . . . works every time😉 Thanks for watching!
My dad was a WWII Vet, Under Patton. He was an ambulance driver and loved his Carbine. I believe all the up grades were possible during WWII.
Thanks for sharing. I bet your dad had a lot of stories! Mine set out the war due to asthma.
In 1964 the old man bought 2 Carbines and a Springfield off the Feds. 20 bucks each. I got the Springfield and a Carbine my brother got the other. Still have them. The Springfield never saw service. . The Carbines didn't look used but were missing the oilers. I got the oilers and slings from Apex. Shooting them since I was 9. I picked up a couple of thousand rounds just before BranDum showed up. When I take people out to shoot the Carbine is always the favorite.
Great story. Thanks for sharing!
I can’t explain why but I always get the biggest smile when I shoot my carbine. Something about that gun just makes it the most fun to shoot.
I get that! And it's hard to explain 😉
Love both of those guns but what really made me smile was the Mule. My first duty station was Guantanamo Bay, Cuba and we had Mules with recoilless rifles as part of the arsenal. I'd love to find one.
Good ones are getting hard to find and very expensive. But they are a ton of fun! Thanks for watching!
good video, i inherited a Ruger in 30 carbine from my father. i own a carbine made by National Postal meter, because of your video i'm going to have to take them to the range next time I go. heve not shot either one in years.
Thank you. Be careful because you may get hooked on that 30 carbine. I certainly did. My son and I are talking about adding one to the fold.
If you shoot the Blackhawk at dusk, the fireball it makes is quite impressive. A lot of propellant goes out the barrel unburned because of the shorter barrel. It ignites after the bullet leaves the muzzle and produces the loud boom and fireball.
The 30 carbine Black Hawk is the loudest firearm I have ever shot. I have no doubt it is responsible for most of my hearing loss. The 44 mag and 357 mags for some reason were not as loud.
I have a Blackhawk in 357. Love it! Wish I had a M1 carbine. Thanks for the video.
You are welcome!
Great job George. .30 carbine seems to have been overlooked post war in my neck of the woods. Can become awesome with the advent of 'New' rounds. A carbine/pistol short range hunter is perfect in a lot of America. Do more!!! Hurry up and take your time. Semper Fi
I'm hurrying but inner "demons" will make sure I take my time😄
Actually Marlin did make a lever action in 30 carbine.
Love the old gun magazines. Which is more accurate rifle or revolver .
That's a good question Mark. They both probably have about the same accuracy potential, but the carbine is easier to get accurate shots downrange just because of its longer site radius.
I’ve had one of those ruger blackhawk s on backorder for about a year now. Just waiting patiently for them to get it built and shipped to me. Got it to compliment a winchester built m1 i bought from midway usa they had found in italy that had been in storage there since the 50’s.
Which brand was you able to train the casing to perform the double-back, forward flip offa your head??(gave it a 9.7) LOL!! Shuda grabbed it up/ did a mantle-trophy-mount!!
Haha!
As a youth, I absolutely loved the M1 30 carbine, and I still love it today!
It is light, accurate, and has virtually no recoil. It is easy to point and shoot, for both youngster and adult alike.
I remember my best friend (who served in World War II) saying that if he had only one firearm he could take with him (if society fell apart), it would be the M1 30 carbine...
However, the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine is the single worst revolver I have ever owned. I bought two of these, and ended up trading both of them away.
The M1 30 carbine and 30 carbine in the AMT Automag III is a stellar combination. I bought an AMT Automag III when these first came out, bought extra magazines with it, and have never been disappointed.
With the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine, shooting the same rounds I shot in my M1 carbine, resulted in these rounds sticking in the cylinder, and this was only one of the multiple problems I experienced. This was the case for both of my 3-screw Blackhawks. However, the AMT Automag III could handle these same rounds accurately and reliably, with no functional problems whatsoever.
I loaded many drastically reduced 30 carbine combinations in an attempt to help the Ruger Blackhawk function accurately and reliably, making sure the cylinders were cleaned properly, etc. Nothing I did made a difference with the abismal Blackhawk performance. So I don't recommend the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine under any circumstance.
If you are going to pair an M1 30 carbine with a handgun, then I recommend pairing it with an AMT Automag III if you can find one.
Incidentally, I love every other Ruger 3-screw Blackhawk I own, especially the convertibles, and I will always love my AMT Automag III, and my WWII original M1 30 carbine...
My father was in the 133rd CB's assigned to the 4th Marines and carried an M1 carbine on Iwo Jima, Peleliu and Anguar.
Wow! Those were some hot spots! I'm sure he had some stories to tell.
George: love when your shooting vintage guns. Both were really sweet shooters. 🤠
Thanks. I appreciate that! And that is my favorite thing to do, shoot vintage guns!
Lol..!! Love your invisible attempt🤣😂 but honestly just wanted to let you know to keep up the great works!!😎👍👍
Hi George,first off yes more on that M1 for sure! That would be awesome. Those two are a amazing combo. Wow that Lehigh cavitator is devastating. Your single action shooting is getting very good. Shooting one handed is not as easy as people sometimes think lol. Liked the into well done Sir! Enjoy your videos a lot George.
Thank you Terry. I really appreciate that! It was a five day video. The first take was pretty rough but it laid a foundation to build on for days two and three. Then editing was 12 hours spread over days four and five. Loved every minute (almost)😉
@@TargetSuite holly cow George that's a lot of time and effort into this video, and it shows! Thank you for all your hard work and time! Always look forward to seeing a new video from you.
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No stripper clip guide
Thanks for showing these off! I'd love to acquire an WWII M1 Carbine to go along side of my
1944 M1 Garand!
You are welcome. You are also lucky to have that World War II era Garand! Congratulations!
My grandfather had a m1 carbine when I was a child but he used it as a payment for his Toyota Corolla's paint job, great shooter that's the first gun that I'd shot.
Ouch! I bet that paint has faded by now😉
I always wanted marlin lever Matic and 30 carbine but I have not run across one yet.
I would like one in 22 WMR.
Really liked your take on the mule. We used them for our weapons attachment.
I'm glad you enjoyed it Ricky. Thank you so much for watching!
Correct George, it does make sense!! I have a 30 Carbine, but haven't seen the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine for sale (available) in a long time. I WANT ONE!! lol... Bill
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I love seeing old mil surp guns and I didn't know ruger made the blackhawk in 30 carbine. Now I kind of want one lol. Good video. Love the M274 mule also. I wish I could get one.
Thanks for your comment and thank you for watching. And yes, the mule is a hoot.
The best videos on UA-cam.
Wow! Thank you! I appreciate that!
That Cavitator round is pretty awesome & faster than I expected. Good history lesson. Thanks
Thank you for watching!
@@TargetSuite The history on the carbine & also on the lesser known Johnson carbine are interesting. Can't figure out why they don't teach it in school. Lol
Very cool video George! Shooting the carbine sure looks fun! Maybe one day I will get mine out for some range fun 😁
Haha! I'll warn you, it will probably still shoot high, even with the sights adjusted. By the way, that "other" M1 carbine would be a great addition to the focused video I am planning. Maybe you can negotiate a loan for me😉
Great video, I have the Winchester M2 Carbine and a 1965 M151A1.
That's awesome! If you haven't already, you should check out the Portrayal channel on UA-cam. He has a lot of content on the Mule and the Jeep.
Oh man, the mule brings back memories of Ft. Campbell (late '70s & early 80's). It was an easy choice (when we had a choice) over the Jeep and Gamma Goat. Not because it was tactically superior, but because cleanup from the Campbell mud was a breeze. Two of us would lay it on its side and then hose and scrub it clean. Just had to make sure the motor pool sergeant was not watching. ;-)
I've got a Plainfield M1 carbine, fun gun to shoot for sure.
Ayyyymen!
My very first deer hunting rifle was an M-1 carbine with two 15 round magazines almost exactly like the one you are shooting. On my very first hunt I killed a 4 point and a big nanny in the very first try. Both deer were together and managed to unload on them. My Dad told me to just put 5 rounds in the mag but I just loaded a magazine full. Either it was a good thing that I did or a bad thing for not listening to him but either way I would have only been able to get one deer but not both. I unloaded on the buck about 4 rounds and then while the doe was running I managed to kill it too through rapid fire. Every other hunter around me hit the dirt when I started shooting though. I guess my adrenaline was way high. One of the hunters said it sounded like the war and he had been in combat in WW2 in Europe. That little rifle is a great hunting rifle and still is. It has never failed to shoot over the many years I have had it. No better rifle for a youth hunter except you must limit the magazine to 5 rounds. I was 11 y/o and thought I was a full grown man with that little rifle.
Great comment! I just don't recommend anyone follow your example of youthful enthusiasm 😉
@@TargetSuite I don't recommend it either, as a matter of fact my 18 y/o nephew needed a deer rifle so I gave him a 30-06 Reminton bolt rifle instead of the SKS M model he wanted to use. It's a pretty rare SKS that uses any type of AK-47 magazine. t comes with two 5 round magazines for hunting but it is too easy to buy a 30 round magazine to go into it. I also have several of those.
You're a wise man. I think many a young shooter is "ruined" by starting out with a semi-auto.
Nice guns, glad you enjoy them. I have found no practical use for either personally. At least you can get something other than hardball for them now. Other calibers way more versatile for me.
I sure understand your logic. And thank you for sharing. Personally, and apart from carry and home defense purposes, I don't choose guns based on their practicality. I choose guns that I will enjoy. Gun designs of all types and from all periods of firearm history. And with that said, the M1 carbine is steeped in American history . . . and a hoot to shoot💥😉
One vote yes for more M1 content. Thank you for the video.
Thank you. And thanks for watching!
My dad carried the Blackhawk in .30carbine while a Marine in Vietnam. He still has it and it is a sweet shooter.
Great time travel from 1968 which also included the Mule from the same time period. I looked up reloading data for the .30 carbine to see if compared to the .350 Legend. The .350 Legend is a little straight wall which resembles the .30 carbine and fights way above it's weight. The heaviest bullet I could find for the .30 was 130 grains and with a maximum powder charge still wouldn't crack the 2000 fps barrier. The .350 Legend slings 180 grain bullets still above 2000 fps. Chamber pressures were very similar. Your open sights shooting is pretty darned good!
Yes the 30 carbine round does fall short when compared to other offerings but it functions really well in that small lightweight carbine.
I would like to have the revolver to go with my carbine, but I have always wondered what the recoil of the revolver would be like. Can it be compared to .45 Long Colt, .357 Mag, or .44 Mag ?
Recoil is definitely not in the Magnum category. It's hard to put a number on it but I would lean towards 38 Special +P
@@TargetSuite Thank you for your reply.
Love my 30 carbine Blackhawk revolver❤
It's a fire breathing dragon, lots of muzzle flash.
My friend uses his to hunt coyote. He is very accurate at 75 yards or more.
Great video.
Thanks
BTW I was given some 110gr lead bullets, going to load them to about 850-900 fps. Should be a good plinking round? Equal to a 32-20 load.
Yep. Great plinking load.
I happen to have 2 Inland Carbines. I also have a .30 carbine Blackhawk serial #3165...it has white plastic grips and no box. I picked it up a few yrs back. Its in perfect condition and dont believe its ever been fired. Can you tell me if the Ruger Blackhawk came factory with the white plastic grips or were they swapped? Tnx Tom
That’s a cool combination. I love it. You can’t beat a M1 carbine. The prices are sky high these days as is the Ruger 44 carbine. 👍
I've got a first year production 44 mag Blackhawk. It has not had the transfer bar added. The trigger breaks like a tiny glass rod. It is a very pleasant gun to shoot. If anyone is on the fence about getting older Ruger revolver I'd say go for it.
I'm not on the fence😉
I love the Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine and have owned one for many years. It is equal to a .32 Magnum with a 7 1/2" barrel. The only draw back is you have to watch your brass length when reloading.
That's true. I have never reloaded for the 30 carbine and don't know if the brass has a tendency to stretch.
Yes please, your take on the M1 Carbine would great!
Thanks Tom. I'm working on it.
What does the head of that small axe, large hatchet say, was it made in St. Louis, MO., and did your grandpa give it to you? I have one with a diamond logo on it, that Russ Weber Sr., had. It would have been interesting if you had backed up the clay blocks with frozen milk jugs with water or several telephone books duct taped together and recovered the .30 caliber bullets.
Remind me. I will try to remember to check it out on Sunday.
The M1 Carbine is a great weapon light you can take it with you anywhere not heavy and comfortable to used I been trying to get my hands on one but is becoming difficult because is a collective item 👍
BTW Brownells has/had a scout style piccatiny rail rail that replaces the upper hand guard ,with a long eye relief scope my groups went from over 6 inches to less than 2 at 100 yards
Thanks for the heads up!
👍😊🎯 nice setup there , the carbine and pistol, the mule.
Yes it was a great day!
Thank you for mentioning the bayonet lug. As an M1 carbine enthusiast it bugs me a little when it gets ignored.
Bought one of these in 1987 for 125 dollars a 44 Inland i've put Thousands of rounds through it when ammo was cheap! what a nice weapon I'm going to dig it out of the safe and get some of those 85 grain Cavitator bullets for home defence.jim
Thanks for your comment. You are one smart man to have picked up one of those back when the prices were reasonable.
Now I want those 2 guns.
But the question I have is how did you get that magazine?!?!
I'll have to answer that question offline. I don't want my secret to get out😄
The M1 Carbine. Love the 30 cal round. Been looking to buy one of these for over 30 years. Trying to find one in excellent shape is about ZERO. The 30 carbine got a bad rap way back when and really hasn't recovered. I've heard 100s & 100s of folks badmouth them but truth is, they can't shoot shit without a scope.
I love the M1 carbine, but alas I am selling my restored by Miltech M1 with crate and ammo to the right buyer in Florida or who has an ffl for transfer. This is a beauty! Its a working collectable. Unfortunately age creeps up and we cant take them with us or can we?
Sounds like you had a great one. Unfortunately though they don't transition well to the afterlife
Love that video! Really need to get one of those Rugers to complete my collection. Thanks for the video, new subscriber. 👌🤠👍
Thanks for watching! And thank you for the sub!
awsome vidio sir love those two firearms the black hawk is super but that mule is spectactular and i want one hahahahah thanks for sharing
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Luv the m1 carbine. Even with the original sight I was able to hit my target.
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Your mule has a lot of gear noise. Have you had the axles serviced
In my collection, I have a WWII Inland M1 Carbine, a post war, scoped Universal M1 Carbine, a Universal Enforcer M1 pistol and a Ruger 30 Carbine Blackhawk. So yes I would welcome an M1 Carbine specific video. I colect military rifles and pistols as a subset of my main collection of guns with triggers that go bang.
Thanks! I've started my homework 😉
Thanks, love the invisible man stuff great video Tomato can and the extreme round , don’t forget your running shoes. Haha. P
Haha! Thanks for watching!
The adjustable rear sight is an improvement and the bayonet band is known to improve accuracy over earlier design.
Interesting. I never heard that about the barrel band enhancing accuracy.
I found the adjustable rear sight to be a downgrade to be honest. The older L sight let's in more ambient light into the aperture; the Korean War sight is terrible in low light conditions
Where did ya get the original mule?!!
I bought it (online) from an attorney in DC.
Great combo, love to have both. My neighbor has the rifle, shot it and loved it. Funny, I thought the exact same thing when I saw the second block of clay.
Haha! I figured you would understand the reference 😉
I got a 1943 M1 Bought it from the old man he brought it back from Europe it’s hardly been fired he was a desk clerk, 10 years ago for 600 it’s inland gmc
Wow! What a treasure. An original M1 carbine! You are one lucky man!
Great, I've been looking for a video where a block of Clay was hit with an M1 Carbine round to show the impact it has. Saw one years ago, but couldn't find it again.
I will order some fresh blocks for the follow-up.
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I've had a. 30carbine for quite some time (over 20 yrs) but still undecided about the Ruger .30 carbine, I've heard good and bad ssooo still thinking . AMT made a semiautomatic 30 yrs back but they're hard to find and command a premium.
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Is there a double action revolver in .30 carbine?
Not that I'm aware of.
@@TargetSuite That would make a great fighting combo.
What did you ever do with your Vaquero?
It is boxed up and headed back to Ruger on Monday. I talked to customer service and the "smith" said he would re-clock the barrel and make it shoot to my point of aim based on the targets I sent.
Absolutely! That would be an awesome video.
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I had a .30 Blackhawk and it was the most antisocial revolver I’ve ever owned. Loud even with full ear protection.
It is loud. But I suspect all of the comments about how bad it is come from shooting military type ammo??
@@TargetSuite , I reloaded mine…..cases stretched like crazy. Factory rounds left a lot of unburnt powder which fouled the cylinder bores. I had to brush out chambers before reloading, otherwise new cartridges would not fully seat and would bind up the cylinder. I remember having to turn the cylinder by hand to cock the hammer. A single flake of powder could wedge in the taper of the case. Other than that it was a beast. I almost regret trading that thing off for a .357 magnum.
I appreciate your comment. I would call the 30 carbine revolver a great gun to have as part of a broader collection. But I wouldn't want it to be the only one in my safe.
No I don't really want to see another youtube video about the M1 carbine. However there's not much about the M2 carbine out there. When I was about to go Nomad in LA CA. I asked a friend(who had served as an MP in Vietnam w/USMC) to hold on to my hardware, and he loved seeing my M1. Turns out he had captured one in country and carried it till he came back. It was an M2, but close enough. 3:30
If you don’t want to see another, then why are you watching this video?
No one cares about what you do or don’t like. Your comment was pointless.
My one experience with the M1 carbine was a commercial Universal model that couldn’t keep it’s bullets on a paper plate at 25 yards. It was such a discouraging experience that I sold it and bought something else. I probably would have kept it if the rifle was accurate. At the time I figured that I could get an AK and shoot much cheaper ammunition and I got a lot better accuracy to boot.
That's a bummer about your M1 carbine. But I understand. I brought an SKS back from vietnam. I couldn't hit a trash can lid with it at 25 yards. It didn't stick around very long.
The jam o matic function was the only function that worked on my universal m1 carbine. 😅😅 Took it to a shop for consignment. And bought an Underwood m1 carbine from 1943. Same day.
I have a AMT long slide in .30 carbine to go with my M1 Carbine. Pistol makes huge fireballs with rifle loaded rounds.
Wow! That is a fantastic companion to the M1 carbine, fireballs notwithstanding 😉
The Mule was a great touch. 🙂
Thanks! I'm trying to roll him in to more of my content.
When I was in high school I bought a few 30 carburetor M1,s fixed them was fun and shooting them fun carbines
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I would love to hear your take on the M1 Carbine! Shooting the clay was cool......but where were the tomato cans? ;-) Great video, thank you!
Haha! I shot the Tomato cans with the extreme cavitator rounds and they just went splat. Nothing really to share😄