Afew years ago i had to pass a 6g test to go on a mine site here in Western Australia. My job on the site was just to tack up base plates to columns then another guy would weld them out behind me. Thats right folks had to pass a cert just to tack up baseplates
Sounds like me currently working in fuel terminals, had to pass xray for 7016TC 5G, 2G, 3F and 4F. It has been about a year now and nothing has been Radiographed on site. Just MPI and hydrostatic hahaha
Still happens today , I'm a fitter / boilermaker and some sites I'm not allowed to weld as not coded or passed out ... Lot of Korean and Philippines welders now doing welding on sites
Bet the longest wait was for the hot work permit, and the safety induction for the new area. Only then can you actually step foot and see what you are going to do. 5 minutes of work, 2 days of preparation, a week of training, which means he now has another cert on his toolchain to use.
I appreciated the constant walk thru & bits of knowledge throughout the video. It's evident that you guys have been in the field for a while & have extensive knowledge of welding. This video just happened to pop up on my feed but I'm definitely gonna bookmark it & check out whatever else you guys have 4 videos. Thanks for a well made, instructional type video that has some relevance. There's too many people with the ability to make videos that should not. Mostly for the lack of knowledge in the field, especially on the safety side of things.
What a great camera. It helps me big time to see so clearly what that stick and puddle are doing with an expert on the other end. To see what I should see through the lens.
We had no one certified for a very specific and critical weld at my shop. The mfg sent one of their engineers to our facility to check our welding equipment. Two days later they flew out a welder with his own roll of wire and had the gas company deliver a bottle of 'special' mix. (The exact same stuff we had 12 bottles of. From the same supplier.) The welder loaded his wire in our machine. Ran a few test beads on a coupon using the engineer's settings and went to work. 8" of bead in 4 locations (about 15 minutes) later he packed up, took his spool and flew home. A farmboy could have done the welds with a buzzbox and had the same results. But, being it was a government job, lawyers and politicians are involved. Nothing without a CYA paper trail.
4:29 I’ve done these repairs and added saddles to pipe that have to be welded I normally do it on 1’ 1/4 pipe to 3in schedule 40 I didn’t even take a test before I was sent out My boss saw me weld pipe in a 6g position (could’ve done 1g rotational) because I was bored at the shop and yes it did pass xray They were 12in+ pipe schedule 80
It's funny that you mention that this test would more than likely not be on an initial hire list but I guess I found the one job that requires it. It's actually the first of five tests required to get the job and if you fail it you are sent packing. For some reason a lot of people fail this one particular test. I never thought it to be difficult but I guess for some folks it is.
In the end, he left that cap crooked because he didn't have a hammer with him, and he didnt' want to climb back down; if he wasn't on camera, he could have unhooked his harness and used that hook as a hammer and tapped the cap over straight again-- Next time I bet he'll remember to bring a hammer though. :) Preferably tied to a lanyard, so he can't accidentally drop it.
I have to do this alot where I'm at. Only diffrence is the 12 to 3 o'clock positions are obscured and. It visible so I have to mirror it with stick and it allways is a PIA to do. But I'm glad I get to do it because I know my welds will pass QC. And if someone else did it where I'm at it would most likely fail and I'd have to do a repair in the field lol
In ASME if you qualify welders on 2" XXS groove welds they are qualified for this fillet weld also, unless ASME IX [QW452.6] has changed from a few years back...?
Probably 2 hour minimum. You have the drive there and the setup and clean up after. It's not worth doing all that for actual time of work. Big companies like this don't mind though -- they'll take care of you if they can rely on your work. A lot of times they will pay for gas and pay you by the mile also for the windshield time. If you have to stay for more than one day on a long trip -- typically they'll pay $200 per day per diem also.
@@T_Humphries If you already work for them, then a lot of times they will pay you for the cert time- or at least cover the cost, etc. but for a random customer-- No. They would just go hire someone who is already certified, rather than paying you extra just because you're not qualified for the job yet. But like I said, if you're already an employee there -- then it's in their best interest to help you get certified.
Seems odd nobody at the plant had a pipe threader. Then again maybe they didn't want the cap to be removable. I can't tell by looking if it is threaded in to the elbow or not. Surprised he didn't have to have a hard hat, hearing protection, vest and a company minder surveying the air for flammable compounds every ten minutes. Granted the air surveying would probably be part of the hot work permit and probably out of camera range. I kind of get it, there are a few big plants near me and the deaths and inquires are nearly always contractors. These rules are "written in blood" but on the other hand it seems like they have over done it. If a company man has to plan out and approve every step you are going to take in triplicate and then watch you do it, is it really any cheaper to bring in a contractor? If the contract companies could train their guys to not walk of the edges of buildings, LOTO, gloves are not impenetrable force fields and other general safety things it seems anyone on an industrial site should know maybe the contractees wouldn't have to treat them like special needs children. Great video as always! Thanks for showing us the end result of all the hubbub. I was thinking he would be capping a still leaking 30 inch pipe 100 yards in the air or underwater or something. It was something more mundane but work is work.
Afew years ago i had to pass a 6g test to go on a mine site here in Western Australia. My job on the site was just to tack up base plates to columns then another guy would weld them out behind me. Thats right folks had to pass a cert just to tack up baseplates
Sounds like me currently working in fuel terminals, had to pass xray for 7016TC 5G, 2G, 3F and 4F. It has been about a year now and nothing has been Radiographed on site. Just MPI and hydrostatic hahaha
i can welding 6G
Still happens today , I'm a fitter / boilermaker and some sites I'm not allowed to weld as not coded or passed out ... Lot of Korean and Philippines welders now doing welding on sites
Bet the longest wait was for the hot work permit, and the safety induction for the new area. Only then can you actually step foot and see what you are going to do. 5 minutes of work, 2 days of preparation, a week of training, which means he now has another cert on his toolchain to use.
I appreciated the constant walk thru & bits of knowledge throughout the video. It's evident that you guys have been in the field for a while & have extensive knowledge of welding. This video just happened to pop up on my feed but I'm definitely gonna bookmark it & check out whatever else you guys have 4 videos. Thanks for a well made, instructional type video that has some relevance. There's too many people with the ability to make videos that should not. Mostly for the lack of knowledge in the field, especially on the safety side of things.
Thank you Jody. I really appreciate your stick welding videos.
What a great camera. It helps me big time to see so clearly what that stick and puddle are doing with an expert on the other end. To see what I should see through the lens.
We had no one certified for a very specific and critical weld at my shop. The mfg sent one of their engineers to our facility to check our welding equipment. Two days later they flew out a welder with his own roll of wire and had the gas company deliver a bottle of 'special' mix. (The exact same stuff we had 12 bottles of. From the same supplier.) The welder loaded his wire in our machine. Ran a few test beads on a coupon using the engineer's settings and went to work. 8" of bead in 4 locations (about 15 minutes) later he packed up, took his spool and flew home.
A farmboy could have done the welds with a buzzbox and had the same results. But, being it was a government job, lawyers and politicians are involved. Nothing without a CYA paper trail.
More Stick Welding tips please :)
I second this and it’s because I rarely do it so need all the help I can! Next year I’ll do a cert in it but for now it’s just when I have no choice.
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Good to see Andrew back.
Thanks for sharing with us Jody. That was interesting to hear about. Fred.
Great to show a real world application!
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I’ve done these repairs and added saddles to pipe that have to be welded
I normally do it on 1’ 1/4 pipe to 3in schedule 40
I didn’t even take a test before I was sent out
My boss saw me weld pipe in a 6g position (could’ve done 1g rotational) because I was bored at the shop and yes it did pass xray
They were 12in+ pipe schedule 80
It's funny that you mention that this test would more than likely not be on an initial hire list but I guess I found the one job that requires it. It's actually the first of five tests required to get the job and if you fail it you are sent packing. For some reason a lot of people fail this one particular test. I never thought it to be difficult but I guess for some folks it is.
In the end, he left that cap crooked because he didn't have a hammer with him, and he didnt' want to climb back down; if he wasn't on camera, he could have unhooked his harness and used that hook as a hammer and tapped the cap over straight again-- Next time I bet he'll remember to bring a hammer though. :)
Preferably tied to a lanyard, so he can't accidentally drop it.
Everything is a hammer. Unless it's a screwdriver... then it's a chisel
@@jokim99 Is that like "Anything is a butt plug...if you are brave enough"?
You are the best! Herbert from Brazil👍🏾
Looks like Andrew isn’t too worried about his hair catching fire 😮
Braver than me!!
nice, thanks for the lesson
Tig weld on a 2inch socket ! 2 runs when I worked in refinery an gas plant ! No stick weld ! Sparks ! Build a hampy for sparks and gas monitoring
U have best knowledge and skill
I have to do this alot where I'm at. Only diffrence is the 12 to 3 o'clock positions are obscured and. It visible so I have to mirror it with stick and it allways is a PIA to do. But I'm glad I get to do it because I know my welds will pass QC. And if someone else did it where I'm at it would most likely fail and I'd have to do a repair in the field lol
Nice welds!
I wish I could lay a beautiful bead of weld like that; with stick
Did you grind the area after weld again ???
More videos like this please
Excellent video
In ASME if you qualify welders on 2" XXS groove welds they are qualified for this fillet weld also, unless ASME IX [QW452.6] has changed from a few years back...?
Soudure à l'arc superrrrrrr.
Merci
Im Just starting 5F and having some trouble. Am I suppose to have a technique/pattern when welding?
Lots of hoops to jump through, I am interested on how he charged his time for this job
Probably 2 hour minimum. You have the drive there and the setup and clean up after. It's not worth doing all that for actual time of work. Big companies like this don't mind though -- they'll take care of you if they can rely on your work. A lot of times they will pay for gas and pay you by the mile also for the windshield time. If you have to stay for more than one day on a long trip -- typically they'll pay $200 per day per diem also.
@@calholli Good information, thank you. Would it be typical to charge for the time involved with the cert for the customers specific need?
@@T_Humphries If you already work for them, then a lot of times they will pay you for the cert time- or at least cover the cost, etc. but for a random customer-- No. They would just go hire someone who is already certified, rather than paying you extra just because you're not qualified for the job yet. But like I said, if you're already an employee there -- then it's in their best interest to help you get certified.
Lol u could tell andrew aint workin for lincoln anymore wit that spraypainted hood haha no way Ol Red allow that
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can someone link me a video of the same position but TIG?
In my opinion,small bore it should be used GTAW welding process.
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nice
Why thickness was the rod
On the certification he said it was 3/32”
I didn’t hear him say on the field job if it was the same.
Seems odd nobody at the plant had a pipe threader.
Then again maybe they didn't want the cap to be removable.
I can't tell by looking if it is threaded in to the elbow or not.
Surprised he didn't have to have a hard hat, hearing protection, vest and a company minder surveying the air for flammable compounds every ten minutes.
Granted the air surveying would probably be part of the hot work permit and probably out of camera range.
I kind of get it, there are a few big plants near me and the deaths and inquires are nearly always contractors.
These rules are "written in blood" but on the other hand it seems like they have over done it.
If a company man has to plan out and approve every step you are going to take in triplicate and then watch you do it, is it really any cheaper to bring in a contractor?
If the contract companies could train their guys to not walk of the edges of buildings, LOTO, gloves are not impenetrable force fields and other general safety things it seems anyone on an industrial site should know maybe the contractees wouldn't have to treat them like special needs children.
Great video as always!
Thanks for showing us the end result of all the hubbub.
I was thinking he would be capping a still leaking 30 inch pipe 100 yards in the air or underwater or something.
It was something more mundane but work is work.
yes i can
It sorta looks like he's "pushing" with the angle.... ?? not a problem obviously.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I suppose in this position, dragging the 7018 doesn't matter?
I guess no inspection on this job, you never should be grounding to the outside of pipe like that.
Enlighten me, how should he have grounded?
Not trying to be a smart aleck.
Just trying to learn.
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