🌿🌻 When we are grownups we realise that infant baptism doesn't make sense. Thank God we now have the knowledge of the truth of the Bible. We were baptised in November 2016 in the Jordan river on our fourth trip to Israel. Hallelujah ! Praise Jesus ! 👍👍👍 Obedience was the key !
That was me, Acts 19. I had to be rebaptized in Jesus’ Name like John’s disciples, and what an awesome day it was, things have never been the same since.
Matthew 28: 19-20 Jesus himself says "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you."
We get baptised when we accept Jesus as our personal Saviour by immersion in water just like Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist. A baby is not able to choose but is baptised by sprinkling of water by his/her parents.
😊 After baptism by immersion we come up from the water as a new creation thus proving to the powers of darkness & principalities that we belong to Jesus 👍👍👍
Baptism by sprinkling does not make sense because when someone is buried, they are not laid on the ground and a little dirt is sprinkled on top of them.
@@Ramb0w49 Of course it's not the same, I'm just asking whether pouring could be considered to fulfill the burial symbolism. Jesus wasn't buried under 6 feet of dirt after all, but I don't think we're gonna invent side-loading tomb-like baptistries any time soon 😆
@@boardbill5852 since St Paul equates baptism as being buried with Christ, I will answer by saying when someone is buried, would you leave their hand sticking out of the ground?
I've been told I wasn't scripturally baptized but I never even saw the Jordan River. And if it represents burial, is that burial in the dirt or scriptural burial?
@@fox7mioComplete immersion in water is a fitting symbol of your personal dedication. Baptism is a symbolic burial because it represents dying to your former life course. Being raised out of the water symbolizes your being made alive to do God’s will.
To the point of there being a need to follow the Apostolic example, we find that self invocation of Jesus Name in baptism by the convert was indeed part of that original model. Baptism Self Invocation Hermeneutics: -John 1:12, 3:5,7,18= Baptism necessary -Acts 10:43= "Prophets" bear witness -Joel 2:32= HOW the Prophet bears "witness" -Acts 2:21,38= Enacting Prophet's doctrine -Acts 22:16= Instructs Convert to "Invoke" -Rom 10:13-15= "They" hear and "invoke" Conclusion: Convert invokes Jesus Name
Thank You! The lessons of history should never be ignored! Once Rome acquired full ownership of 'Christianity' in a hostile takeover, they immediately installed a new CEO (the Pope) and new management team (the priesthood). Then they began developing a different mission statement and business model. Their consumer base was accustomed to worshipping a family of multiple gods who represented multiple forces of nature. So, a 'trinity' of persons in the godhead with Mary's honorary role as a mother to humanity eventually became the new marketing strategy.... As you said, baptism was also repackaged and rebranded from burial in Jesus' name into a more convenient and 'cost effective' sprinkling ritual. Meanwhile, their advertising department came up with a very compelling slogan...... "Obey us or die". Since most of Rome's competitors were either defunded and delisted from the market, or forced to operate illegally, Rome's year over year profits grew exponentially for centuries. They had an exclusive monopoly until Martin Luthor and others opened up new franchises with even more deeply discounted doctrines. Our modern Christian consumer now has hundreds of option packages to choose from....... most with several different color choices. As the UPCI gains even more 'market share' ..... can it stay profitable (fruitful) under the same business model?...Will the UPCI lose market share to other, even more Biblically precise organizations in the near future? Will The UPCI limit it's growth potential simply because of vain worldly fashion statements (way beyond modesty) that have long since lost their Biblical meaning and purpose? Will these ritualistic policies focusing on the outward appearance of holiness eventually replace the true Biblical holiness (separation from sin) that we all claim to value so highly?.............. "I LOOK holy, therefore I AM holy"....... Will there come a time when we no longer recognize (or care about) the difference between those who are truly holy from those who only look and act that way? 🤔 I wonder if anyone in the UPCI... EVER... feels the least bit uncomfortable with this scripture and the others like it?.... Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. May the spirit of the One God (revealed, expressed, and manifest through Jesus the Christ) lead us and guide us into all truth.
When I joined the Catholic church (I live in France), I had done my own research about Jesus, and had read a good part of the Bible already. The priest was seeing me every second week or so in order to teach me about christiannity. However, what he was telling me didn't seem to match what I understood from reading the Word. So I kept asking questions to test him on specific matters and he was always curious and surprised by the questions I would ask and even ask me why I was so specific. He could never give me a straight answer. I felt something was wrong and kept praying for God to guide me on my way. God sent me a pentecostal christian, at the hotel where I work, as a client. He was my neighbour when we were young. We had a chat and he invited me to the church where he was preaching. And now everything I hear matches what I read. The experience that I make is the same as told in the Bible, and I received the Holy Spirit. I'll be baptised next sunday. Alleluiah !! Glory to God :)
@@sebastienj.c.218 Thanks for your response! A wonderful testimony! My path was different than yours, but the goal was the same..........Find God and his true church. Although you've found the truth, I humbly suggest you remain vigilant. You have a responsibility to verify everything you're taught. If something doesn't seem to fit with scripture, find out why so you can and either reject or embrace it. I think you've already learned this lesson......... "Trust but verify". Welcome to God's Kingdom! Stick around for awhile............ I expect things are about to get really interesting in your new life! 😇 May the spirit of the One God (revealed, expressed, and manifest through Jesus the Christ) lead YOU and guide YOU into all truth.
@@mt9567 "Trust but verify" indeed. That's the reason why I'm here watching this channel actually. I want to make sure the teachings are the same across the ocean from someone who represents the church I belong to. May God lead YOU and guide YOU also until we meet in His perfect Kingdom :)
You should read about the l and ll Council of Nicaea. The Pope was only 1 of the many leaders of the church then. There was the Roman Catholic Church, Ethiopian Catholic Church, Greek Orthodox Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church, and many others. The only ran/runs the Roman Catholic Church.
Thanks for this topic. I had a coworker tell me his church did immersion (in Father, Son, Holy Ghost, and Jesus lol) but had one service that a lot of people wanted to be baptized. The pastor had gotten a fire hose and spray it over on, saying they are now baptized. He said his pastor did this to save time. Regardless, I rather they all be baptized like the Bible way. John the Baptist did it with many people, so can we.
Pastor Genning The book of Matthew 28.19 was first written in Hebrew And did not have words father son holy ghost Later it was translated in Greek and still did not have father son and holy ghost These words first appear in catholic vulgate earlier 4th century Not long ago a catholic monk said ' the catholic church has the right to interpolate any scripture they deem nessary It looks so likely that the trinity form was interpolate after 400 years What do you think
To the subject of sprinkling, research shows it was present in the 2nd century as a sort of dedication ceremony but wasn't considered a valid baptism as commissioned by Christ. It wasn't until the 3rd or 4th century that sprinkling became a valid mode of baptism amongst the proto-Trinitarian confederacy.
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit) Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church? The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again) Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant (CSB) They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order. (ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (ESV+) but deal only with R5food and drink and R6various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation. (GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things. (KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357 (NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation. (NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established. (YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them . ======================================================================================================= New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Watch the UA-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Thank you so much! God bless and keep you 🙏! I also headed to your channel and watched the video that addresses the topic so well. Again, thank you so much for your commitment to sharing the truth!
I prayed so much to Jesus to confirm whethe my splinkling babtism was acceptable, I clearly heard a voice telling me it was enough. I have since then stood by that conviction even I went to Israel while all my group members were immersed in the Jordan river at a place Jesus himself was babtised I felt no conviction to follow suite. However in my salvation life, I have experienced mèting Jesus face to face, have been taken to heaven, seen a number of angels in various visions. The guy hung with Jesus was promised with Him in paradise n there is record he was baptised. My point is water baptism is inconsequential. 8,10,12,14,15,17,18,19mm then I have stood up
🌿🌻 If water baptism is inconsequential according to you then why read the Bible ? Are you trying to justify your conscience ? If we are followers of Jesus then we should be obedient and follow Him. Coming up from the water is to prove to the powers and principalities of this world that you belong to Jesus and that you are a totally new person and sin cannot touch you. Total submission to the will of God ! 👍👍👍
🌿🌻 You should've checked the voice. Not everyone gets this glorious opportunity to be baptised at YARDENIT, the BAPTISMAL SITE at the Jordan. The scripture says that Satan transforms himself into an angel of light and is a liar and a deceiver from the time of the garden of Eden. We went four times to Israel, Jordan & Egypt but we got baptised on the 4th trip even though we were baptised much much earlier in Juhu, Mumbai . ❤
@@doreenfernandes2431 i grossly believe HS told me it was okay, who do you think you're to tell me otherwise or tell me your understanding n belief? Heaven does belong to Jesus who promised the thief on right cross heaven completely unbaptised.
@@doreenfernandes2431 Read rest of my testimony. Have met Jesus face to face have been taken to heaven, have met angels several times...I am that kind of born again servant of Jesus. The rest you are preaching me are your denominational doctrines.
@@arthurmwabulambo1201 I agree with you, Bro. And apart from the thief on the cross, there is Paul writing, Jesus didn't send him to baptize. And we can guess if the baptism were that important, would God not tell it clearly to Paul ? And according to biblical history water baptism was a Jewish practice, which the Apostles, who were Jewish wrongly introduced into Christianity as they wanted to do with circumcision and jewish feasts, as they didn't understand properly the doctrine of the church of grace yet, which will later be taught to Paul. I will just say, if I would feel likely to be baptized, I will do it, but I won't let no one forcing me to do it as because of it being a biblical teaching/doctrine.
Wow. That was an awesome explanation. Thank you. I was fully dunked as a baby like all the other Greek Orthodox folks. I witnessed many infant full immersion baptisms. And my Australian cousin in-law was fully dunked when he converted at 28 yrs old to marry my cousin. I recall him saying he was a bit freaked out when he got shoved under. Does that mean all of us Greeks are not valid because we were babies when we were immersed?
"We don't even get to the point of asking the question of whether you're going to hell if you weren't immersed." You might want to make that clearer to all the preachers in the organization.
You can always talk to your pastor if they say something that seems unreasonable. Tell him it would be good to make sure that it is the right teaching. I know my pastor is in contact with others, and if he ever has any doubt, he can have a conversation with them and seek answers. It is very important to ensure the teachings are correct at all times.
@@sebastienj.c.218 My pastor was great, I have nothing against him. The problem is most of the "good" ones don't want to have any conflict other pastors, so they won't call out problems. And pastors that are too controlling make it so their congregations feel like they can't speak up even if they realize the issues. It seems like some local regions are better than others, so not everyone has the same experience. But since I've left, the number of things I've learned that I wish I knew while I was still in is scary.
Though I believe in baptism by submersion, I do have a question. What do you do, when someone has never known this, they obtain the understanding about baptism and wants to be immersed in water, but is not allowed. Due to a things you can’t control, unless God opens up a door? They can’t be immersed because their health and/or the nursing staff/Doctors/Administration won’t allow submersion, or the law won’t allow it due to hostilities towards truth. Are just a few examples.
Nothing is impossible to God. Whatever is on your way that looks like Golliath while you're a David, just have faith and pray. Golliath will always fall if it is God's will.
All of us have contemplated this conundrum, quandary, or dilemma no matter what pathway to God we've chosen. Why? Usually because we all have someone (sometimes ourselves) that hasn't completed all of the full salvation requirements as we personally understand them. From conception through old age, are there any Biblical alternatives to whatever salvation plan we personally embrace? Can someone/anyone be saved differently? If I were ever in that position (God forbid) I would follow the example of 'the thief on the cross'..... Have faith (in Jesus ) enough to repent and to receive mercy and salvation. Throwing yourself upon the mercies of God is all you can do at that point..... so that's exactly what you should do. I would hope any 'unsaved' people I've known have made at least that final effort. Whether God can/will allow any abbreviated or alternative versions of salvation are entirely up to his own merciful judgements. There's no Bible scripture that prevents or restricts God from saving souls in ways we don't yet understand or comprehend. Especially if you speculate the possibility of a "multiverse" with countless versions of humanity that are constantly being formed and re-formed again and again every moment according to God's will............. just say'n.
The reason baptism by sprinkling came about because in that time in history and in that part of the world, clean usable water was scarce. So....if we have to do this sacrament just like they did 2000 years ago, then we must do everything else likewise. Me? I trim the corners of my beard so I don't look like a hobo. I have a truck in my driveway instead of an oxcart. For many years, I played an electric guitar in church instead of a harp or a ram's horn. I wear pants instead of a robe. When it gets cold, I flick on the central heat instead of gathering wood and building a fire in my living room. You see how pointless this controversy is??
The cool thing is that Jesus gave Peter the keys to loose & bind on earth as it is in Heaven, so the Catholic Church, the Bride of Christ, has the authority to say sprinkle or immersion. Pretty plain and simple. Jesus know very well there would be disputes throughout history, so He was wise enough (duh he's God) to allow a papal authority, Peter's authority, to have a final say in major disputes.
I always enjoy your videos very much. You briefly mentioned infant baptism, and people saying babies go to hell, etc. I have heard several apostolic preachers say that babies that die to unsaved parents will go to hell. I have never seen a biblical reason to say this. I don't beleive anyone's baby would go to hell. Could you please talk about this in one of your UA-cam sessions. I think it is a very important subject and many people question this. Thank you, and thank you for all that you do.
Dr. Bernard addressed this question in Episode 43 - "Do Babies Go to Heaven If They Die?" (ua-cam.com/video/nWMlsJZ6Pb4/v-deo.html) - Podcast Production Team
Baptism is about spiritual cleansing & not about removing physical dirt with water. It takes a stronger or holier spirit to remove or displace a more evil spirit. Jesus was.baptised in water but satan led him after his baptism. To be led in the bible means to submit to something or someone.
@@spencerfrankclayton4348 That simply means Jesus submitted to satan & satan is the father of lies & later on Jesus submitted to death on the cross . . .so Jesus was mortal! Matt 1:16 Matt 7:22&23
Funny he is so 100% in on baptism being immersion.I agree. Yet when its talking about communion, wine gets thrown out and we replace it with grape juice. EVEN THOUGH the Bible is EXPLICIT its wine: 1 Cor 11:21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken. Cant get drunk on Grape juice fellas Same thing with women pastors, these "apostolic" guys aint apostolic at all. Just pentecostals with an extra twist of being oneness
Where does one find scripture to support sprinkling? Baptism “in the name of” is at least understandable…wrong…but understandable. Christ is LORD. All Power and Authority
The baptisms in the Bible all involved immersion, not sprinkling! For example, Philip baptized the Ethiopian man, and they “went down into the water” for the baptism. Afterward, “they came up out of the water.” (Acts 8:36-39)
Your explanation of baptism is not biblical, the bible says that anything that is not based on faith is dead. in the old testament sprinkling and pouring were the form of baptism. In the new testament it is God Who is doing the spiritual baptism, not man. Water is not needed for new testament believers.
religion leads people to happiness and peace, but there are some rules, for example halal haram major sins have increased in the world drinking adultery murders gambling interest slander lies magic homosexuality these are major sins people's tight and naked clothing that evokes sexuality is a sin.
🌿🌻 When we are grownups we realise that infant baptism doesn't make sense. Thank God we now have the knowledge of the truth of the Bible. We were baptised in November 2016 in the Jordan river on our fourth trip to Israel. Hallelujah ! Praise Jesus ! 👍👍👍 Obedience was the key !
That was me, Acts 19. I had to be rebaptized in Jesus’ Name like John’s disciples, and what an awesome day it was, things have never been the same since.
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Matthew 28: 19-20 Jesus himself says "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you."
@@adamfalgout6601watch doctor Bernarda video on those verses
We get baptised when we accept Jesus as our personal Saviour by immersion in water just like Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist. A baby is not able to choose but is baptised by sprinkling of water by his/her parents.
😊 After baptism by immersion we come up from the water as a new creation thus proving to the powers of darkness & principalities that we belong to Jesus 👍👍👍
Baptism by sprinkling does not make sense because when someone is buried, they are not laid on the ground and a little dirt is sprinkled on top of them.
What about burial mounds? Of course still not sprinkling, but is pouring okay based on that?
@@KevinDay pouring water over someone for baptism is not the same as completely dunking someone under water.
@@Ramb0w49 Of course it's not the same, I'm just asking whether pouring could be considered to fulfill the burial symbolism.
Jesus wasn't buried under 6 feet of dirt after all, but I don't think we're gonna invent side-loading tomb-like baptistries any time soon 😆
@@KevinDay no, I don’t believe it could.
@@boardbill5852 since St Paul equates baptism as being buried with Christ, I will answer by saying when someone is buried, would you leave their hand sticking out of the ground?
This is what we call sound doctrine.
I've been told I wasn't scripturally baptized but I never even saw the Jordan River. And if it represents burial, is that burial in the dirt or scriptural burial?
@@fox7mioComplete immersion in water is a fitting symbol of your personal dedication. Baptism is a symbolic burial because it represents dying to your former life course. Being raised out of the water symbolizes your being made alive to do God’s will.
God bless you Pastor, thank you for the explanation, you are faithful to the word of God
To the point of there being a need to follow the Apostolic example, we find that self invocation of Jesus Name in baptism by the convert was indeed part of that original model.
Baptism Self Invocation Hermeneutics:
-John 1:12, 3:5,7,18= Baptism necessary
-Acts 10:43= "Prophets" bear witness
-Joel 2:32= HOW the Prophet bears "witness"
-Acts 2:21,38= Enacting Prophet's doctrine
-Acts 22:16= Instructs Convert to "Invoke"
-Rom 10:13-15= "They" hear and "invoke"
Conclusion: Convert invokes Jesus Name
so water baptism does not save but Jesus
Very fortunate to watch this podcast. May God bless you Pastor
Thank You! The lessons of history should never be ignored! Once Rome acquired full ownership of 'Christianity' in a hostile takeover, they immediately installed a new CEO (the Pope) and new management team (the priesthood). Then they began developing a different mission statement and business model. Their consumer base was accustomed to worshipping a family of multiple gods who represented multiple forces of nature. So, a 'trinity' of persons in the godhead with Mary's honorary role as a mother to humanity eventually became the new marketing strategy.... As you said, baptism was also repackaged and rebranded from burial in Jesus' name into a more convenient and 'cost effective' sprinkling ritual. Meanwhile, their advertising department came up with a very compelling slogan...... "Obey us or die". Since most of Rome's competitors were either defunded and delisted from the market, or forced to operate illegally, Rome's year over year profits grew exponentially for centuries. They had an exclusive monopoly until Martin Luthor and others opened up new franchises with even more deeply discounted doctrines. Our modern Christian consumer now has hundreds of option packages to choose from....... most with several different color choices.
As the UPCI gains even more 'market share' ..... can it stay profitable (fruitful) under the same business model?...Will the UPCI lose market share to other, even more Biblically precise organizations in the near future? Will The UPCI limit it's growth potential simply because of vain worldly fashion statements (way beyond modesty) that have long since lost their Biblical meaning and purpose? Will these ritualistic policies focusing on the outward appearance of holiness eventually replace the true Biblical holiness (separation from sin) that we all claim to value so highly?.............. "I LOOK holy, therefore I AM holy"....... Will there come a time when we no longer recognize (or care about) the difference between those who are truly holy from those who only look and act that way? 🤔
I wonder if anyone in the UPCI... EVER... feels the least bit uncomfortable with this scripture and the others like it?....
Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
May the spirit of the One God (revealed, expressed, and manifest through Jesus the Christ) lead us and guide us into all truth.
When I joined the Catholic church (I live in France), I had done my own research about Jesus, and had read a good part of the Bible already.
The priest was seeing me every second week or so in order to teach me about christiannity. However, what he was telling me didn't seem to match what I understood from reading the Word.
So I kept asking questions to test him on specific matters and he was always curious and surprised by the questions I would ask and even ask me why I was so specific. He could never give me a straight answer.
I felt something was wrong and kept praying for God to guide me on my way.
God sent me a pentecostal christian, at the hotel where I work, as a client.
He was my neighbour when we were young. We had a chat and he invited me to the church where he was preaching. And now everything I hear matches what I read. The experience that I make is the same as told in the Bible, and I received the Holy Spirit. I'll be baptised next sunday.
Alleluiah !! Glory to God :)
@@sebastienj.c.218 Thanks for your response! A wonderful testimony! My path was different than yours, but the goal was the same..........Find God and his true church. Although you've found the truth, I humbly suggest you remain vigilant. You have a responsibility to verify everything you're taught. If something doesn't seem to fit with scripture, find out why so you can and either reject or embrace it. I think you've already learned this lesson......... "Trust but verify".
Welcome to God's Kingdom! Stick around for awhile............ I expect things are about to get really interesting in your new life! 😇
May the spirit of the One God (revealed, expressed, and manifest through Jesus the Christ) lead YOU and guide YOU into all truth.
@@mt9567 "Trust but verify" indeed.
That's the reason why I'm here watching this channel actually.
I want to make sure the teachings are the same across the ocean from someone who represents the church I belong to.
May God lead YOU and guide YOU also until we meet in His perfect Kingdom :)
You should read about the l and ll Council of Nicaea.
The Pope was only 1 of the many leaders of the church then. There was the Roman Catholic Church, Ethiopian Catholic Church, Greek Orthodox Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodox Catholic Church, and many others. The only ran/runs the Roman Catholic Church.
Fantastic break down.
Thanks for this topic. I had a coworker tell me his church did immersion (in Father, Son, Holy Ghost, and Jesus lol) but had one service that a lot of people wanted to be baptized. The pastor had gotten a fire hose and spray it over on, saying they are now baptized. He said his pastor did this to save time.
Regardless, I rather they all be baptized like the Bible way. John the Baptist did it with many people, so can we.
You can also baptized in the ocean lake pond spring swimming pool or bathtub in The Name of Jesus Christ or Lord Jesus
Hugs. Excellent. They could do a podcast about divorce and remarriage. Thank You.
Pastor Genning
The book of Matthew 28.19 was first written in Hebrew And did not have words father son holy ghost
Later it was translated in Greek and still did not have father son and holy ghost
These words first appear in catholic vulgate earlier 4th century
Not long ago a catholic monk said
' the catholic church has the right to interpolate any scripture they deem nessary
It looks so likely that the trinity form was interpolate after 400 years
What do you think
To the subject of sprinkling, research shows it was present in the 2nd century as a sort of dedication ceremony but wasn't considered a valid baptism as commissioned by Christ. It wasn't until the 3rd or 4th century that sprinkling became a valid mode of baptism amongst the proto-Trinitarian confederacy.
Wow! Good to know.
Which makes it heresy and against scripture. How did the dam fail? One piece at a time
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit)
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church?
The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again)
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant
(CSB) They are physical regulations and only deal with food, drink, and various washings imposed until the time of the new order.
(ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(ESV+) but deal only with R5food and drink and R6various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation.
(GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things.
(KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
(KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357
(NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
(NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established.
(YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them .
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New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Watch the UA-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
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Thank you so much!
God bless and keep you 🙏!
I also headed to your channel and watched the video that addresses the topic so well.
Again, thank you so much for your commitment to sharing the truth!
Sound doctrine indeed 🎉
Thanks 👍 sir, your very right on this one.
Nothing physical brings forth Spiritual life.
Amen praise God
I prayed so much to Jesus to confirm whethe my splinkling babtism was acceptable, I clearly heard a voice telling me it was enough. I have since then stood by that conviction even I went to Israel while all my group members were immersed in the Jordan river at a place Jesus himself was babtised I felt no conviction to follow suite. However in my salvation life, I have experienced mèting Jesus face to face, have been taken to heaven, seen a number of angels in various visions. The guy hung with Jesus was promised with Him in paradise n there is record he was baptised. My point is water baptism is inconsequential.
8,10,12,14,15,17,18,19mm then I have stood up
🌿🌻 If water baptism is inconsequential according to you then why read the Bible ? Are you trying to justify your conscience ? If we are followers of Jesus then we should be obedient and follow Him. Coming up from the water is to prove to the powers and principalities of this world that you belong to Jesus and that you are a totally new person and sin cannot touch you. Total submission to the will of God ! 👍👍👍
🌿🌻 You should've checked the voice. Not everyone gets
this glorious opportunity to be baptised at YARDENIT, the BAPTISMAL SITE at the Jordan. The scripture says that Satan transforms himself into an angel of light and is a liar and a deceiver from the time of the garden of Eden. We went four times to Israel, Jordan & Egypt but we got baptised on the 4th trip even though we were baptised much much earlier in Juhu, Mumbai . ❤
@@doreenfernandes2431 i grossly believe HS told me it was okay, who do you think you're to tell me otherwise or tell me your understanding n belief? Heaven does belong to Jesus who promised the thief on right cross heaven completely unbaptised.
@@doreenfernandes2431 Read rest of my testimony. Have met Jesus face to face have been taken to heaven, have met angels several times...I am that kind of born again servant of Jesus. The rest you are preaching me are your denominational doctrines.
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I agree with you, Bro. And apart from the thief on the cross, there is Paul writing, Jesus didn't send him to baptize. And we can guess if the baptism were that important, would God not tell it clearly to Paul ?
And according to biblical history water baptism was a Jewish practice, which the Apostles, who were Jewish wrongly introduced into Christianity as they wanted to do with circumcision and jewish feasts, as they didn't understand properly the doctrine of the church of grace yet, which will later be taught to Paul.
I will just say, if I would feel likely to be baptized, I will do it, but I won't let no one forcing me to do it as because of it being a biblical teaching/doctrine.
Wonderful!
Should
communion be 5:28 Taken at supper time in the evening.
There right way is the way Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
was Paul immersed in water?
Ephesians 4:4
John 3:5
Great video so true
Wow. That was an awesome explanation. Thank you. I was fully dunked as a baby like all the other Greek Orthodox folks.
I witnessed many infant full immersion baptisms. And my Australian cousin in-law was fully dunked when he converted at 28 yrs old to marry my cousin. I recall him saying he was a bit freaked out when he got shoved under. Does that mean all of us Greeks are not valid because we were babies when we were immersed?
"We don't even get to the point of asking the question of whether you're going to hell if you weren't immersed."
You might want to make that clearer to all the preachers in the organization.
You can always talk to your pastor if they say something that seems unreasonable. Tell him it would be good to make sure that it is the right teaching. I know my pastor is in contact with others, and if he ever has any doubt, he can have a conversation with them and seek answers.
It is very important to ensure the teachings are correct at all times.
@@sebastienj.c.218 My pastor was great, I have nothing against him. The problem is most of the "good" ones don't want to have any conflict other pastors, so they won't call out problems. And pastors that are too controlling make it so their congregations feel like they can't speak up even if they realize the issues.
It seems like some local regions are better than others, so not everyone has the same experience. But since I've left, the number of things I've learned that I wish I knew while I was still in is scary.
Though I believe in baptism by submersion, I do have a question.
What do you do, when someone has never known this, they obtain the understanding about baptism and wants to be immersed in water, but is not allowed. Due to a things you can’t control, unless God opens up a door? They can’t be immersed because their health and/or the nursing staff/Doctors/Administration won’t allow submersion, or the law won’t allow it due to hostilities towards truth. Are just a few examples.
Nothing is impossible to God. Whatever is on your way that looks like Golliath while you're a David, just have faith and pray. Golliath will always fall if it is God's will.
All of us have contemplated this conundrum, quandary, or dilemma no matter what pathway to God we've chosen. Why? Usually because we all have someone (sometimes ourselves) that hasn't completed all of the full salvation requirements as we personally understand them. From conception through old age, are there any Biblical alternatives to whatever salvation plan we personally embrace? Can someone/anyone be saved differently?
If I were ever in that position (God forbid) I would follow the example of 'the thief on the cross'..... Have faith (in Jesus ) enough to repent and to receive mercy and salvation. Throwing yourself upon the mercies of God is all you can do at that point..... so that's exactly what you should do. I would hope any 'unsaved' people I've known have made at least that final effort. Whether God can/will allow any abbreviated or alternative versions of salvation are entirely up to his own merciful judgements.
There's no Bible scripture that prevents or restricts God from saving souls in ways we don't yet understand or comprehend. Especially if you speculate the possibility of a "multiverse" with countless versions of humanity that are constantly being formed and re-formed again and again every moment according to God's will............. just say'n.
🌿🌻 Your heart attitude is important to God. Just surrender your will and life to Him and He will make a way. Trust Him ! 👍
If dunking was good enough for jesus.....what are people thinking ? Ive never understood why people fight this.
It takes repentance plus baptism to wash away sins (around the 10:05 mark)? No sir. What can wash away my sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus!!!!!!
The reason baptism by sprinkling came about because in that time in history and in that part of the world, clean usable water was scarce.
So....if we have to do this sacrament just like they did 2000 years ago, then we must do everything else likewise.
Me? I trim the corners of my beard so I don't look like a hobo. I have a truck in my driveway instead of an oxcart. For many years, I played an electric guitar in church instead of a harp or a ram's horn. I wear pants instead of a robe. When it gets cold, I flick on the central heat instead of gathering wood and building a fire in my living room.
You see how pointless this controversy is??
Absolutely
Amen
The cool thing is that Jesus gave Peter the keys to loose & bind on earth as it is in Heaven, so the Catholic Church, the Bride of Christ, has the authority to say sprinkle or immersion. Pretty plain and simple. Jesus know very well there would be disputes throughout history, so He was wise enough (duh he's God) to allow a papal authority, Peter's authority, to have a final say in major disputes.
There is no need or basis for a pope. The temple curtain tore in half after Jesus died on the cross.
Amen aleluya
I always enjoy your videos very much. You briefly mentioned infant baptism, and people saying babies go to hell, etc. I have heard several apostolic preachers say that babies that die to unsaved parents will go to hell. I have never seen a biblical reason to say this. I don't beleive anyone's baby would go to hell. Could you please talk about this in one of your UA-cam sessions. I think it is a very important subject and many people question this. Thank you, and thank you for all that you do.
Dr. Bernard addressed this question in Episode 43 - "Do Babies Go to Heaven If They Die?" (ua-cam.com/video/nWMlsJZ6Pb4/v-deo.html) - Podcast Production Team
@@DavidKBernardUPCI I must have missed it, thank you very much.
Baptism is about spiritual cleansing & not about removing physical dirt with water.
It takes a stronger or holier spirit to remove or displace a more evil spirit.
Jesus was.baptised in water but satan led him after his baptism. To be led in the bible means to submit to something or someone.
NO, Jesus did "follow" Satan as if to say he agreed or submitted. He physically was led to a certain place.
@@spencerfrankclayton4348
That simply means Jesus submitted to satan & satan is the father of lies & later on Jesus submitted to death on the cross . . .so Jesus was mortal!
Matt 1:16
Matt 7:22&23
@@spencerfrankclayton4348
If satan can be found at the holiest place in your temple, it simply means you are worshipping Jesus who submittef to satan.
. by holy spirit
Funny he is so 100% in on baptism being immersion.I agree. Yet when its talking about communion, wine gets thrown out and we replace it with grape juice. EVEN THOUGH the Bible is EXPLICIT its wine: 1 Cor 11:21 For in eating every one taketh before other his own supper: and one is hungry, and another is drunken.
Cant get drunk on Grape juice fellas
Same thing with women pastors, these "apostolic" guys aint apostolic at all. Just pentecostals with an extra twist of being oneness
Where does one find scripture to support sprinkling? Baptism “in the name of” is at least understandable…wrong…but understandable.
Christ is LORD.
All Power and Authority
The baptisms in the Bible all involved immersion, not sprinkling! For example, Philip baptized the Ethiopian man, and they “went down into the water” for the baptism. Afterward, “they came up out of the water.” (Acts 8:36-39)
Your explanation of baptism is not biblical, the bible says that anything that is not based on faith is dead. in the old testament sprinkling and pouring were the form of baptism. In the new testament it is God Who is doing the spiritual baptism, not man. Water is not needed for new testament believers.
The pastor is wrong
What if person is bed ridden and wants to be rebaptised in Jesus name. Time is running out
Was the thief on the cross baptized, such are isolated situations which God understands.
religion leads people to happiness and peace, but there are some rules, for example halal haram major sins have increased in the world drinking adultery murders gambling interest slander lies magic homosexuality these are major sins people's tight and naked clothing that evokes sexuality is a sin.