July 31st, 1978 - Mets vs Phillies (ABC Sports)
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- Courtesy of Joe B. This is one of the coolest finds of the collection. Special thanks to Joe B for sending me the dvd. Howard Cosell, Pete Rose hitting streak updates, and Dick Ruthven getting the start at the VET!
I listened to this right before drifting into a half sleep. The descriptions and names of the warriors who once strode my beloved diamond filled my mind. Even the ads led credence to the illusion. For awhile 1978 was close enough to touch.
Perfectly said
Awesome description. I too fall asleep to these old baseball and football games here on UA-cam. Good for the soul...takes ya back for sure.
for me growing up 40 years ago this was the true golden era of baseball back when Monday Night Baseball and NBC game of the week on Saturdays was something to look forward to watching unlike today with the 24/7 oversaturation of ESPN crap. Back in a time when it was common to see pitchers pitch the whole 9 innings and the game wasn't micromanaged like today.
Well said bro,... Baseball was great back then... ballplayers played with real intensity in order to win...
Last couple of generations would have no clue what you are saying. They are spoiled, pretty stupid and no sense of how baseball, not to mention other sports, are dead because of oversaturation and stupid athletes bloated with tatoos, money , egos and god knows what else. Tell me what was the stinkin angle and takeoff velocity of that stinkin homerun ? Man, how useless and typical of the stupidity of this generation. Thank God for retro sports and movies .
Just notice how quickly the game was played. The pace seems twice as fast compared to today.
the world was better in the 80s then it is today
Yes, sir...
What a treasure, I was 20 years old at this time. Tremendous flashback to a bygone era. It was a better game then.
I was -12 lol
Good quality tape. And the Pete Rose look ins are priceless. Love the commercials, too! Thank you!
Ahh Monday Night Baseball. It was a big deal then. It was really our only chance to see out of the area games during the regular season.
Now we are in the computer / internet era and it just isn't the same as way back when...
Didn’t you get NBC on your set? They had a game each week. They called it “The Game of the Week.”
Mickey Rooney you’re a sarcastic & little twit!! Lol 😂😂😂
Agreed .... prior to that it was a Saturday game that was the only chance to see out of market teams play.
Now we're in the stupid era and in the era where the formally green earth isnt green anymore and finally the era where this climate stuff, which wasnt mentioned back then, is mentioned everyday
Lord, please take us back to the 7s, 80s and 90s
Just watching Howard & Billy. Talk about baseball in 1978. Reggie in 1978. Pete after DiMaggio. Man. This was some season. A sophomore in high school. Even then knew this was special. Very few players now could do well then. No expansion. NBA bush league. Best talent focused on football & baseball. This era was in the best interest of baseball. 🇺🇸
I stopped watching baseball regularly two years ago. I still watch the World Series and the All-Star Game, but for regular season I come to UA-cam and watch the old timers. The game and the players had more edge back then.
I agree, completely.
Sign of the times. That whole generation of players, the baby boomers, were special. When your parents go through the Depression & war, then live through the radical social & cultural changes of the 50's & 60's, you'd have an edge too.
I agree. I only watch my baseball on UA-cam. Today’s baseball stinks, I don’t watch it, along with the fake news. People get their news from the internet. The network’s today know it and just like newspapers, they’re going out of date. Same thing happened with the horse and buggy.
Congrats, guys!
Some of you here are the living definition of a “fuddy-duddy.” 👴🏼
I was 8 years old at the old-timers game at Yankees Stadium and even then I knew I was at something special. I still get goosebumps watching this footage. I remember it well.
Man, what a clear picture for a 40 year-old game!
It's really really good. This must've been recorded on VHS or Betamax. It's impressive.
amazing...at times seems HD!!
Looks like a 1980s or 90s game
"Thank you for this gem." 😇
Great add! Most of the ballgame, Billy Martin's first Yankee "firing," the 44th and final game of Pete Rose's incredible hitting streak (age 37), and Howard Cosell, Keith Jackson. Thanks!
The Lite Beer commercial between Steinbrenner and Billy, either George saying “Billy you’re fired” or “Billy you’re hired” depending on what was happening.
Heard Howard commenting on how no one will ever break Gehrig's record of 2130 consecutive games... You don't say, Howard?
Wasn’t that awesome. I picked up on that too. Howard was ahead of his time being the first shock talk tv sportscaster.
It was just plain weird for the Yankees to announce in July 1978 that Billy Martin, fired the previous month, would be rehired for 1980, nearly two years later. In fact, Martin was brought back in mid-1979 and fired again at the end of that season, so he didn't manage the Yankees in 1980. He was hired and fired again 3 more times before he died.
Billy truly was charmed.
Technically Billy wasn’t fired in 1978 . He beat the Yankees to the punch and as stated he resigned before he could be fired.
This is so high quality that it can’t be from VHS! Maybe ABC archives? Very enjoyable!
This particular game was called by: Keith Jackson (play-by-play), Howard Cosell (reporter/analyst), Don Drysdale (color commentator), and Billy Martin (special guest analyst). Jim Lampley was the play-by-play announcer for Pete Rose's hitting streak coverage. Surprisingly, he isn't that bad at calling baseball.
Cosell was made for football and boxing period!!! Not great at baseball.
This is HOWARD COSELL!! RIGHT THERE!!!
Seeing Billy Martin as a guest analyst can help pinpoint the date of this game(along with Retrosheet.com) Game was played on July 31 and Billy was available as he had resigned as Yankee manager one week before on July 24. Billy resigned after making an infamous quote about Reggie and George which was “One is a born liar and the other is convicted.” Had he not resigned he was going to be fired and likely for cause as he had violated a clause in his contract. However on July 29, at Yankees old times day it was announced Billy would be back as manager in 1980. However he came back in mid June 1979 when the Yankees were struggling at 34-31. He was fired after that season for the incidents where he infamously punched out a marshmallow salesman in Minnesota.
Great to see the pace of the game. Pitcher gets the signal and throws the ball. None of this stepping out of the box and adjusting this and tugging at that.
The MLB PSA by Weaver so iconic relative to now..."2:25" (points to time of game--the norm) as he discusses a box score.
What about now????
This is AWESOME!!! Thanks from a Dodgers fan!!!
I always liked Ruthven's very unique pitching style and that he's from my home town in Newark CA.
I fr just saw him at a ledo’s no cap
Is he still there?
The next year Rose was with the Phils and in 1980 helped them win their first World Series in the Phil's 97 year history. Might be Pete's biggest accomplishment.
Billy wound up being back in 79, but didn’t get to 80. He was in Oakland.
AT 1:19:59 Pete Rose hits in 44th straight game!
Ya know, I was wondering why the thumbnail showed Pete Rose in a Reds uniform for a Phillies/Mets game.
It's fun watching this game it's hard to imagine but Howard Cosell was a pretty good baseball announcer
Warner Wolf wasn't, when he was five feet from the Commissioner asked when is Washington going to get a team?
So was Keith Jackson! Today's Network Announcers Suck! All the Ones that would be good are doing other Sports!
@@rockvilleraven Warner Wolf was a Clown
@@Pitt-ny8cj I know, we had him as the Sports Anchor on WTOP Channel 9 in Washington, DC and later he came back after Glenn Brenner, the funniest sports anchor passed away from brain cancer, he only lasted a year his second time at WUSA 9.
pete rose needs to be in the Hall of Fame Period.
rafael hernandez Im Sorry I Respect to Everyone Because Rose Is Not Eligible For Baseball Hall of Fame Because of Betting because he is off the hook.
He would be now...if he didn't gamble.
@Brion Stronghold Nope. Not at all. I am a lifelong Reds fan. Grew up rooting for the Big Red Machine. Rose broke the cardinal sin of baseball, one that is posted in every clubhouse. Had he come clean back in 1989 and asked for forgiveness, he MIGHT have been reinstated. Instead, he lied, lied and lied about it. Only when he came out with a book in the early 2000s did he start telling half truths. He still gambled and could care less. He gave no indication he was "Re-configuring" his life which was part of his agreement to be considered for reinstatement.
Shoeless Joe belongs in there before Rose. Until he is in, f- Pete... Shoeless Joe was ignorant. Rose was stupid...
Nobody could handle a bat like Rose. Unfortunately he couldn't handle a bet....
The only hall Rose belongs in is The Hall of 😔 SHAME.
46 years have passed and our beloved Mets one World Series championship.
36?
around the 25:50 mark, Howard Cosell mentions unbeatable records and emphatically says Lou Gehrig's consecutive games streak will NEVER be broken.......OOPS!
Yeah, but what was more interesting to me was how he opened that segment. He mentions how specialized the game had become by 1978 and how unlikely it would it be to see another 300 game winner because "relievers are brought in more promptly." Uh, 1978 Howard, just fast-forward 40 years if you really want to see how quickly relievers are brought in. LOL!
In '78, NO ONE, I mean NO ONE thought Gehrig's streak was beatable! As for 300, Cosell's remarks are 40 years too soon! Now, folk don't see a 300-game winner, anymore, because as we can see, MLB is as bullpen in the 4th and 5th inning as it gets!
@@firebird6522 yeah right!!!
@@thescatman5029 Forget 300 game winners, we are rarely going to see 200 game winners anymore.
He died before Cal broke the record so in his mind he was right.
This gives me a chance to get loaded more and look to fight a marshmallow salesman.
Was a great year for me , I am pretty sure I remember watching this game. I was a chipper carefree 25 year old young man back then. Today , 2023 , I worry , but baseball is still great. That will never change.
i just love the commercials.trying to play the face with the tv show they were on
Three Phillies would later play for the Mets: Richie Hebner in 1979, Jerry Martin in 1984, and Larry Bowa in 1985.
All three later were Cubs, too.
Thank God for Classic Phillies TV. I bet they get better ratings than the actual Phillies today.
Howard was already a 'couple of sheets to the wind' at the game's onset.
Your point??
Top 2nd, Howard (Cosell) declares:
“One record will never be broken. Lou Gehrig’s 2130 consecutive games played.”
WRONG !!!! 😂
Only someone as classy as Bob Lemon would put up this grandstand play - unlike Billy and Stein-grabber.
Yea Yankees nice crapping on your current skipper while you're at it.I'am a yankes fan btw.
Von Steingrabbed
I was thinking the same thing wtf.
A very rare Nino Epsinosa game.
Erratic, but had good stuff.
So much 70's gold here. Howard asking Billy about a spot on his liver. Like that'd ever happen in today's sanitized hippa world.
Catch the brilliant Howard Cosell at 25:40 declaring that Lou Gehrig's consecutive game streak "will never be broken."
Howard Cosell never should have been let within 100 yards of any baseball broadcast, ever. I agree with you there. But don't forget Gehrig didn't have a choice when his streak ended, for obvious reasons. He probably would still have the record if not for that.
NO ONE thought that record would even be approached. Cosell has forgotten more than you ever even knew.
He wasn't alone in thinking that. It took 56 years for anyone to even get close. The current leader is Whit Merrifield with 317. Only one guy has reached 1,000 since Ripken retired. Miguel Tejada, at 1,152
@jms1963 - Could not agree more! One of the saddest day’s in the history of this great game.
ALS is such an unrelenting disease. Probably the ONLY way “The Iron Horse” would’ve ever been scratched from a starting lineup.
Yep. Just heard that, boy was he wrong.
I owe u for this Classic Phillies!..And look at this quality!.Woosers!..
I was 15 at time of this broadcast...on Long Island NY.... Mets fan... bothered me how the Yankees got so much attention and how the Mets suffered. Time gets compressed looking back on it and in 6 short years with the acquisition of Keith Hernandez... Strawberry in the 1980 draft... Gooden... by 1984 the Mets became good. But this was the last summer of my childhood. Turned 16 in another week and no more long lazy childhood days of summer.... started working jobs after school and during the summer. Where oh where did the years go?
If you ever wanted to know how the players felt about that Billy Martin rehiring: 3:01
The follow-up Miller Lite ad: 18:45
This is fantastic - thanks for posting. A life-long Mets fan, I was 12 yrs old during this forgettable season and by sheer coincidence (We had bought the tickets 2 months before) was at the Reds-Mets game where Rose broke Holmes' National League hitting streak record. Billy Martin was a great baseball guy when he wasn't drunk (which wasn't very often). He was a poor, tormented soul. What a time of pro sports bliss that was -before the disease of ESPN & super-obnoxious pro athletes ever became known
My nostalgia meter just blew up.
My favorite years of baseball were the mid 70's to the 80's. Don't watch baseball anymore. Can't stand it. I miss everything about baseball from the announcers back then to the free games on tv to the Monday night program, to the original Yankee Stadium, etc.
Not to mention scheduled doubleheaders, none of these scientifically dubious "pitch counts", and affordable stadium tickets.
I agree with you...
Also, Espinosa, after a mediocre career, tragically died of a heart attack at the too too young age of 34, nine years later after leaving the game in 1987. Ironically, I believe he was traded to the Phils a year or two later and was part of their 1980 World Championship team, though he was not placed on the postseason roster. Also, Richie Hebner eventually went in the other direction, I believe becoming a Met following - I think - a trade with the Tigers in 1981 (or maybe it was free agen?!). He didn't last long though. As for the Mets' Dale Murray, I recall Torre using him as the closer of that era, before the term was officially coined, and driving me - a Met diehard even in the worst of times - nuts because he blew many games, squandered many leads. Joe Torre was the Casey Stengel of his time but in reverse - he was certainly not "a genius" with the Mets but indeed "a genius" with the Yankees.
Chris Neidenberg I think the Phillies traded Hebner to the Mets for Espinosa. Broke my heart, I was a big Richie Hebner fan.
Just think of it.. Torres managed the 78 mets.. 20 yes later..he manages the 98 yanks ..one of the best teams of all time!
Espinosa was actually pretty good until he hurt his arm. I remember after one of his early games with the Mets he had a good outing and after the game he was on Kiner's Korner. He could hardly speak a word of English. Neither could Ralph Kiner.
My son Jed showed me UA-cam to watch my favorite games.... Go Mets... THanks Jed.
around 34:45 they speak of a modified shift to Richie Hebner, and talk about how the Reds shifted on Hebner and he hit 3 bunt singles down the 3rd base line and had his first 5 hit game of his career. That's what today's players need to do to the shift but they are not capable... today's players can't bunt.
@scotttodhunter - Agree 100%, Scott!!!
8 Months later, Richie Hebner would be gone from Phillies, and Rose would play 1B, and star for them for the next 5 seasons. Charlie Hustle would help lead Philadelphia to it's first World's Championship in it's 98 year history.
Under Rated acquisition Manny Trillo
Lance Link Not underrated in my book, at least. Phillies don't win World's Championship without Mr. Trillo. MVP of 1980 NLCS, and I will always remember his rocket throws to first base.
Richie Hebner Would Have Been Traded To The Mets.
He went to Texas first, I think
thats a great interview with billy martin....never heard him before....more human now
Go to min 25:50. Cosell proudly announces the one record that will never be broken
No one in booth even comment on Howard's wrong prediction.
yes these were the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No one in the National League will ever come close to Pete Rose’s Legendary 44 Game Hitting Streak!
Billy Martin in the booth!
Keith Jackson and Howard Cosell R.I.P
1978 baseball: fun, entertaining, legends are born
2020 sports: boring, historic, controversial, youngsters, Albert Pujols being the only active legend that is about to be in his last year as an Angel when everything returns to normal.
I think today sports are micro-managed and overanalyzed. Back then they just let it rip...
@@mikepatrick5909 - agree! oversaturated for sure! MLB will never get past the stench of the steroid era destroying MLB record books or the cheating Houston Astro debacle...
Get off my lawn
I grew up with the Big Red Machine!!!! I was at all the home games at Crosley Field.
as I watched this, I could almost SMELL the Old Spice aftershave
@1:19:59 As Pete Rose gets his NL record-tying hit there's a flash from a camera that looks like a bolt of lightning from above, like God himself willed it LOL.
Learn something new every day. Never knew Martin helped call a Met game.
This would also be his last hit during that streak... He holds the national league hit streak record and it still stands....Many thought DiMaggio's record of 56 games was next but it also still stands...
I was 20 days old. I remember it well.
I was 3,256 days old but I don't remember it. P.S., if you can calculate the day I was born you win a cookie.
Is it 8/28/69? Did i do tge math right?
@@Badspinache it's 9-1-69, but if you were here, I'd give you a Ritz cracker for your efforts!
Back in these days the Monday Night ABC home games weren't shown in Philly. The road games were. The exact opposite with Saturday afternoon NBC games. Although on the road they were on Channel 17.
The precise date of the game was July 31, 1978. While watching this game, I'm following the game...batter by batter...on a separate box score.
Pretty nippy July night in Philly wow!
Sears 48 Battery 36 bucks! Muzzler $19.99 installed!
Young Dale Murphy at 1B for the Braves.
18:18 > Keith Jackson mentions Ruthven's rib pain and how difficult it must be for him to throw the baseball at 85-90 mph. Ruthven looks like he's popping the glove a bit better than that to me!
37:05 Watch the deke there. It was a hit-and-run, so Hebner took off for second. On contact, Mets shortstop (Foli) pretended he was taking a throw from the secondbaseman (Flynn) and that he was turning a double play, causing Hebner to pull up and stop, thinking he was out. The announcers didn't notice, simply saying Hebner "went to sleep".
Ah, I typed the above before the commercial!
They did notice. The very next inning the replayed it twice showing Foli's deke.
what i have is yours ClassicPhilliesTV (Long Live THE VET)
Hi pheniafilms. Sorry for the late reply. Feel free to email me at mike@primarymedia.com
Looks like Rick Hurst, "Cletus" from the Dukes of Hazzard, doing the Allstate commercial at the first break.
The next night Gene Garber would end Pete Rose's streak at 44.
I didnt know Pete Rose was an Aqua Velva man?
Believe it or not he also modeled jockey shorts..lol
Where did that pitch miss @ 30:25? I think check swing locked up the ump's call.
As a 14-yo I was at the Reds-Braves game that night when Rose got his 44th straight game. I was also there the next night when the streak was snapped.
@spottedsharks - Which Braves pitcher punched out Rose in his final AB to end the streak?
@@golfmetrics5088 I think it was Gene Garber.
@spottedsharks - 💯 Give that man a cigar!
Awesome!
Howard claims nobody will ever break Lou Gehrig record. Cal Ripken signed with the O’s a month prior.
@11:52 the game Earl Weaver is showing the box score is Yankees vs. Blue Jays 5/20/78
Islanders owe additional 3.6M. Hockey fever. Catch it!
Nice Video, Jerry Martin and Sizemore would become part of my cubbies a year later. Martin had some good years for Cubs. Whats wrong with Boone he always threw his helmet after homer.
I still remember going to a Mets game in 1984 on banner day. Someone had a banner that said "Gooden and Martin... Strikeout Kings"
Here's an oddity: Pete Rose broke the "modern" NL hitting streak record in a game against the Mets about a week before this. The next year, when Rose returned to Shea Stadium as a member of the Phillies, the Mets actually honored him by giving out 8x10 color pictures of him breaking the record the year before. I know because I went to that game and got one of those pictures (don't have it any more). Imagine the Mets honoring Pete Rose, who wasn't the most popular player at Shea Stadium. Or even honoring ANY player from an opposing team who broke a record against THEM. I guess they had precious little success of their own at that time to celebrate. Also, maybe, because the guy whose record Rose broke, Tommy Holmes, at that time worked for the Mets, I think in their scouting department.
My Dad took us to that game. We lived on Staten Island and I was 8 at the time. The traffic was bad and we got there in the second or third inning, and he'd already got the hit. Later, a punk kid stole my Mom's purse right off off her shoulder and took off down one of the ramps. It was also a school night.
so steve henderson is an incomplete ballplayer because he cant throw but they like mazzilli. maz could not throw either. wtf
Billy, is there a spot on your liver? HAHAHAHAHA
he managed the Oakland A's in 80 - Billy Ball
that was a fun team to watch!
I’m for trades if you want..maybe we picked some things since our last trade(s) 🎥 also some NHL
Hope all is good Phils 👌
If the Mets had just not shown up
and forfeited every game in 1978,
they would have wound up in the same place
in the NL East final standings.
1:20:00…..Pete Rose’s hit. Doesn’t it look like it went under the fielder’s glove?
Rediculous that Pete Rose isn't in the Hall of Fame. They pretend its some sacred church.... its not... its a baseball museum for the fans to enjoy and learn about the great players over the years. A young kid today can go to Cooperstown and not learn about Pete Rose.... what a shame. Taken further these days multi $billions are gambled in sports and baseball profits from this added interest. Rose and other disrespected players need to be in the Hall of Fame and simply include everything there is to say about them. Baseball knew exactly what was going on with steroids that year of McGuire and Bonds hitting all those homeruns.... they knew... and they profited from it.... all the extra fan interest and advertising revenue.... baseball profited and the players are shunned? The insult isn't just to Rose.... its to the fans that deserve to learn about all the great players of the game.
One thing that always strikes me about the Phillies of that era - they never wore caps in the intros nor did they wear them in player photos in programs. No other team did that, just the Phils. Everyone else wore caps in intros and photos. Anyone know why the Phils did it differently than anyone else? I'd be curious.
Their hair must be why.
I didn't know D. Murphy played first base early in his career.
Pretty sure Pete Rose wasn't with the Phillies until 1979
That's a high centerfield camera angle.
Common in some of the cookie cutter stadiums back then: Astrodome, Atlanta (Rose's cut ins), San Diego, etc. If a local network was also broadcasting the game, they wouldn't share the prime CF camera spot with another broadcaster.
25:57 Sorry Howard. Meet Mr. Cal Ripken
Of course Martin did not go to the Yankees in 1980, he instead managed the A's from that year up until 1982. Dick Howser was the manager instead for the Yankees in 1980.
Please tell me that Forrest Gump was somewhere at that game!
25:57
Didn't age well but truly, who could have seen Cal coming?
He needed to hit in only 13 straight games more to break Joe DiMaggio's streak.... And it was over on this night...
Why does the title of this video say 1978, when it appears that video is from 1979?
Rose was a philly in 79.. Thanks for watching! Let me know if you can help in anyway.
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Keith Jackson loved the OHIO STATE BUCKEYES!! YES!!!
25:58 Some guy named Cal Ripken Jr. beat it 17 years later.
R.I.P.: Billy Martin
I don't know what happened to the tape at 44:27
Steve Henderson was traded to Cubs after 1980 Season for Dave kingman.
Bruce Bosclaire never saw a pitch that he didn't like.the guy would swing at anything.
25:56 not so fast there.......
I get what you're eluding to seabrook. Cal Ripken. Think anybody will beat 4256 hits?
@@EdWood1st not on this day and age. No sir.