AOS 5 V2 FPV Frame: Better than the Apex DC? No props in view; no compromises!
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- If you want to try the AOS 5 V2: www.cncdrones.com/AOS-5-V2_p_...
If you want to try the AOS 5.5 V2: www.cncdrones.com/AOS-55-V2_p...
Learn more about other AOS frames: www.aos-rc.com
Support the work I do so I can spend more time on this amazing hobby: / chris_rosser
Frame specs AOS 5 V2:
- Designed for up to 5.2 inch props (no props in view)
- 6 mm Arms
- 2mm Top Plate and Sandwich Plates
- 2.5mm Bottom Plate
- Up to three 30.5x30.5 mm 25.5x25.5 mm or 20x20 mm stacks
- 32x32mm GoPro mounting holes in top plate with installed press nuts
- XT60 pass through in top plate
- Two captive battery strap slots
- Fits the DJI Air Unit (use front stack mounting) and HDZero 1W VTX
- Fits the DJI FPV camera or 19x19 mm camera
- Recommended motor size 2306, 2207, 2208, 25mm
- 16x16 mm up to 19x19 mm motor mounting
- Approx. 115g with all hardware
Frame specs AOS 5.5 V2:
- Designed for up to 5.5 inch props (no props in view)
- 6 mm Arms
- 2mm Top Plate and Sandwich Plates
- 2.5mm Bottom Plate
- Up to three 30.5x30.5 mm 25.5x25.5 mm or 20x20 mm stacks
- 32x32mm GoPro mounting holes in top plate with installed press nuts
- XT60 pass through in top plate
- Two captive battery strap slots
- Fits the DJI Air Unit and HDZero 1W VTX
- Fits the DJI FPV camera or 19x19 mm camera
- Recommended motor size 2207, 2208, 25mm
- 16x16 mm up to 19x19 mm motor mounting
- Approx. 125g with all hardware - Наука та технологія
I love the subtle shot at Steele. Good for you.
Nothing against Steele, but deadcat frames have drawbacks and loads of people are searching for ApexDC on UA-cam ATM so it makes a good title 😁
Awesome analysis. Thanks for explaining how different mode shapes affect the FC and the camera
After watching your guide for tuning. I watched this. You are amazing dude, I'm gonna buy your equipment and gonna support you! Keep up the good work.
Awesome, thank you!
Love your content Chris. Thank you for the scientific approach to the hobby.
Still madly in love with my 5-5 V1. Built like a tank and handles crashes like nothing else I have tried. When it breaks, this is my next project fr sure. Great work as always Chris.
Bought my AOS 5.5 V2 already. Got it just yesterday and put the frame together today. Looks really solid. Can't wait until I can afford some electronics assuming I can find em in stock. This will be my first HDZero build thanks to the thoughtful frame construction. Thanks Chris! Great work!
Did u weight dry frame by any chance😅
@@kalinkha Dry, no motor or stack screws it's 111.7
@@shadai7398 thanks for quick reply👏🏻 and dat weight is 👌🏻👌🏻
Yes! been looking for wide x frames without props in view! thank you Chris!
Yess! Finaly fpvcycle motors on the testbench😉
Realy nice frames i like to try them out asap.
Keep on going Chris, nice work!
Thanks! Will do!
Love that your updating and supporting your frames!! Will we see an updated lighter weather weight version of the aos7
I ordered a V2 in blue with yellow standoffs yesterday. So far I have 2 AOS 3.5's, 2 AOS TP3's and a UL5. Love the 3.5's!!!
This new version looks so much better, great job👍
Thank you! So glad you like the new organic aesthetic.
Thanks Chris, I can't get enuf of these frames. My current fleet consists of 2 AOS 5's, 1 AOS 5.5, 1 AOS 7, 1 AOS 5UL. The new design looks amazing! Have both the 5 and 5.5 v2s on order.
Nice looking frame, great upgrade. Will get one as soon as it is available in the EU
I currently run an AOS 5 I ordered 2 days after the video went live and I love it. Since then I've build a supafly flipmode which has such different flight feel the contrast is fun but next build has to be an AOS V2 in green 😍
Nice!! Looking at the 5.5 V2 for future build
Excellent overview of your new frames. Really like the option of the 5.5" frame. While I love my standard Apex frames running Kiss, your explanation of why the AOS V2 geometry is better for getting props out of view is compelling. I do have an extra Ultra fc that needs a home.
Right now I'm building the AOS-7 to run iNav, love how much room there is for large batteries as compared to other 7" frames. Happy flying everyone. 🤓
I got mine coming for my next trip to Idaho!!!
After I watched a couple of your videos, I decided to buy two of your frames AOS 5 O3 and AOS 7 O3. I upgraded to the DJI O3 system and unfortunately, the Iflight frames I have are not working with the large field of view of the O3 camera. However, I didn't make my decision to buy your frames solely on the FOV issue. The way you explain and show how much engineering consideration is behind at your frames sold me on it. Great work, can't wait to have my new AOS frames!!!
I hope you enjoy them 👍 Happy Flying!
Oh man, the title is such a comeback for that half crooked Steele review of AOS5. The frame now looks awesome, can't buy tho, truly expensive for me.
It's not intended as an insult. It's just that lots of people are searching for the ApexDC at the moment and deadcats are not so great for freestyle. 😉
@@ChrisRosser doesn't the apexDC have a squished X geometry that looks like a DC? Not hating - but impulse made a point that while it looks like a DC, the motors are still laid out on on the four vertices of an imaginary rectangle - which is squished X. Same as the regular apex, just all arms pushed further back along the body?
@@ChrisRosser The apex DC puts the motors in line, so it’s actually a “X” , making it great for freestyle, unlike the usual deadcat which is not inline
Looks like it's time to upgrade my frames again! Thanks. Looking forward to more motor work. I would love more videos exploring the ideal motor for each prop size for the response time vs weight. I'm sure someone like you could explain the balance between the added moment of a larger motor vs the lower delay of having more torque in reserve.
Yeah that would be a really cool video. I need to take a harder look at the maths there.
@@ChrisRosser Just finished my 5.5v2 with F80's. The step response is 2ms faster (before tuning even) then my 5.1" / F40's despite the 3-5g added to the ends of each arm. This might be worth a look. Frame is nice a quite until 200hz. Would you recommend a notch there or let 4.3 dynamic notches handle it. Filtering is super lean on this guy too
Great frame and great looking frame. It sort of has that bat look that Voodoo Quads had. The VDQ 250 V1 &V2 are my favorite frames ever but sadly they are not around anymore. I will buy yours, Chris. Well done!
Thanks! Yes I agree they do look similar. The same organic curved look.
I just build an AOS5.5 v2 with farouk 2505.5 motors, gemfan 5536, hobbywing 60A stack and damn it flies really really well even with full gp10 onboard. I'm comparing it with My other 5" quads like Apex with 25mm fpvcycle, same hobbywing stack...GRL Titanium with tmotor 55A stack, pacer 2505 motors and my other GRL titanium, hobbywing stack, farouk 2505.5 motors. This is now my favorite frame to date.
I like the vista antenna mount on the rear arm. Very durable design, well done sir. 🤙🏻💪🏻
Thanks 👍
I disagree. I think that antenna is toast in one crash. If motor #3 propellor catches a tree branch or something, bye bye antenna. Chris?
@@kylecooper3350 If you tape the antenna to the arm and cable tie the end I've never had one cut in a crash. You can tape it along the side of the arm or the bottom the arm for extra protection.
I’ve done GPS out on the arm like that on my 6-7” builds. No issues, everything is breakable in this hobby eventually. 😂
Really looking forward to building those two :3 Should have waited for those colors tho x.x
Mine just arrived. Cannot wait to start mounting. I went for the XING2 2207 Rainbow motors (1950KV) Hope it is not much KV, but love those motors design!❤
The combination of AOS frames and recommended filters is the best!
I put HERO7 on AOS5V2 and it is very responsive.
I've got a V1 that needs to be rebuilt so great time to try the V2 out.
I hope you enjoy it! Thanks for your support
Nice one Chris, would love to see an AOS 3.5 v2.
I am looking into it. It needs a bit more time though!
@@ChrisRosser Ok Chris. A bit more time has passed 😅 Any updates on a V2 3.5?
Glad I could help with the color idea.
Yeah I'm really psyched for the colours. Thanks man!
Great job! Thanks a lot!
Dang. I just started a build with the AOS 5.5 V1 and the HDZero 1W VTX. Might have to order the V2 now and rethink things.
Should be easy to transplant and build from the 5.5 V1 to either the 5 or 5.5 V2
Thanks Chris.
So I bought this frame and ran BF4.3. Its on default pids and I lessen the filters sliders. Im using a Tmotor F7 55amp dji stack, Xing 2306 on gemfan 51777. This is a hell of a frame. I'm literally speechless. The fact that it was the smoothest frame I flown without tuning. I actually don't want to change a thing in BF lol juicy flips are clean. It is a very response frame, very crisp. It sounds crisp and sharp. The punch outs were solid, no stutters. I tried to create prop wash and it was a task. I'll full throttle burst in one direction then yaw spin 180 degrees and then full throttle burst out. Almost nothing on prop wash. Even coming out of hard dives were smooth. Motors were slightly warm. GREAT JOB CHRIS!!!
Great to hear! You might find it flies even better if you raise the master slider a few ticks. 😁
@@ChrisRosser ok thanks I will give it a try
Love the detail here thank you. Just an FYI, The link for the 5.5 V2 seems to go to a drone called the Odonata...
Thanks for the info, I've reached out to Nick not sure why the page is down. Hopefully it's a quick fix.
Just ordered 2 can’t wait for it to come great work Chris! Also is cnc drone physically located in Canada?
Can't wait to build these. Please make it available internationally.
Wow these frames look cool 😎
Thanks! I really worked on the looks this time around.
awesome analysis as always! I'd really like a frame analysis of the Babyhawk II, me and other users got heavy propwash and we'd like to know if something can be done with a proper filter tuning or if the 1404 motors are just too weak (one user upgraded to 1804 and says the propwash is gone, but at a high flighttime cost: if that's the case what motor would you suggest as a right compromise?) THANKS!
I love the frames. And as a happy owner of the AOS55, I love the changes. Captive straps and support for HDZero Freestyle in front, middle, and back is a dream.
Hi Chris... I just got the AOS 35 v2, it looks fantastic, very strong and lightweight. I just wonder if you had an explosion diagram of it. I have problems seing wich screw goes into wich hole. Also, wasn't it supposed to come with motor screws? I bought from iFlight via aliexpress. Thank you. Great stuff you do.
You could add to your description that you need a 14cm coaxial cable for the vista. At least that's what I needed on the AOS 5.5 with the vista on the back
The FPV camera in your build is the Caddx Micro camera in your first build.
Hi chris
thanks for a nice fram design. What Elrs reciever do you recomend?
Can someone help? I have the AOS5 for the 03 and I can't get rid of the vibs in the video using rock steady. Are there some TPU prints I can use? My tune is near perfect. It flies great, just vibes in video.
Hey Chris, will there be updated accessory 3d printables (both DIY and orderable) for the V2? or is everything from the V1 still good on the V2?
The arm ends are slightly different but the standoff spacing is the same.
Really tempted by the aos frames. Maybe if the 3.5 and 7 inch get the v2 update ill get the complete lineup. Any chance on a 9 or 10 inch version?
Thanks for all the work you do for the community. I didn’t see the colored carbon options for the 5.5, is it currently available?
Not just yet but in the next few days. I'll chase Nick and post a quick video when it's ready.
@@ChrisRosser waiting for other color :)
Awesome work again buddy! Do you have any plans on making an AOS 3.5v2?
I am looking into it but it needs a bit more work before it's ready.
Got the frame and building it up. Awesome looking!
Question: if I run the battery lead out the forward XT60 hole like on your video will I have cg issues with battery placement if I don’t fly a GoPro? With the XT60 there the battery will only go so far forward. Thanks!
I'm able to slide the battery far enough forward to have a central CoG without GoPro
This looks like the freestyle frame I want to build next. Would iFlight be selling these just like the V1?
Chris, I am new to your channel so I have a question.... Does all the resonance and such really make a big difference in the handling of the quad?
Hi Chris. I travel a lot and would be nice to carry a drone that could do both freestyle and some range. I see that the 6" is pushed a lot by iflight as a perfect compromise between a 5" and a & 7". The question is, would you think is worth adding some 6" arms to the aos 5.5v2 ? looking forward for your answer.
Thx for the video! I Do you think your frame can handle F80 motor (2408) with some gemfan 5552 please?
Hey Chris, sorry for the noobish question but I am lost. I want to build an AOS 5.5 V2 as my first drone but I need a recommendation for motors and props. Ideally, these motors are compatible with the NewBeeDrone Infinity AIO V2. Can you help me? Thanks!
Thanks for the video Chris. Is there any way to secure the xt60? I worry that it will damage the board when the battery cable isn’t tied down somewhere
Will the UL gets V2 update as well or is it already contains V2 modifications?
Another question - When looking at a cinematic build like Pavo 30 comparing to a build like this one with a GoPro. Is there any benefit to a Pavo or is this one rules them all (Free style and cinematic)?
Why not allow for toilet tank battery strap mount? It will benefit from that.
The only thing that held me back from getting your first frame was the look of it I just can't stand the look, this new V2 frame looks amazing it's so cool looking, and it has all of the benefits of your design! I'm so happy that you release this frame it is the answer to all my problems.
I do have one question though, does a three screw motor mount have any extra vibration VS a four screw motor mount?
You should know how happy that makes me. So glad you like the look of it I put a lot of thought into it. The three screw motor mount has no negative effects on vibration Vs 4 screws. With the screws correctly tightened the motor doesn't move separate to the arm at all.
@@ChrisRosser Thanks Chris, I'm so happy 😊, I think this is gonna be an even bigger hit than the V1 was! People are going to love this frame, it's gonna sell out quick!
Is there any difference between the V2 kits from CNC Drones vs the frame kits that will be carried by getfpv and others?
@@ChrisRosser Ps. I had just bought an Apex DC and all the parts last week, now those parts are going on my new AOS 5.5 V2!
@@jhughes2286 Everyone that I hand my V1 to says the same. I really like the look of it though. Can't wait to get my hands on V2.
Hi chriss, are you planning to do the v2 of the AOS 7 too?
That is a really clean gyro scaled log the rpm filter should be enough to squash that not to mention it looks good ! I would really like to give one of these a shot
How did you mount the air unit in the 5.5 V2 at 13:26?
I'm having trouble finding a suitable way to mount mine. Running vista for now, until I find a good way to mount the air unit.
Hey Chris, just received the 5 v2 from CNC madness. Are dimensions of the arm tips the same as the V1? Looking to print some skids but most of the stls from Thingiverse are V1
This frame design is what pushes me to do my first project build instead of buying BNF.
Quick question, does the V1 TPU kits fit with the V2?
Most things except the feet for the arms should fit.
I dont have a problem with the props on the feed view but i do on the gopro, is this frame better or same as other DC that wont show the porps on a gopro view when using a 10 ° angle??
I much prefer this versions design. Definitely like thos shorter but still effective truss structures. Also aestatically better. Might be my first AOS frame
Thank you! Lot's of quality of life improvements for this frame that I'm proud of and I'm chuffed you like the looks 😁
Please tell us Mr. Rosser. How do you mount the blitz mini with the 20x20. Considering the golden nut etc. And that the grommits following the blitz mini f7 and esc is for M3 screws.
Thank you for your knowledge.
The 20x20 mount is designed to be able to be drilled out to M3 if you're using an M3 20x20 stack.
Hi Chris, when cncdrones are going to make the other colors available? Can you already say, who is going to produce your frames in Europe? Thanks a lot for your great work!!!
Nick should have the new colours available in a week or so. I'm working on manufacturing in Europe but there will be FPV shops stocking the V2 frames as soon as iFlight are able to start production.
Hi chris, I love your designs. I purchased the AOS 5 evo v1.2 from cncdrones and the hardware that came with it was completely wrong lol. I was missing sooooooo many screws and nuts. After measuring them ALL it seems they sent me the wrong hardware lol. Has anyone who ordered from them has had the same issue? I tried contacting them but still no reply. Also the machining of the carbon fiber parts was very bad. Lots of burs and chips that i had to clean up, and some of the screw holes were not wide enough that i had try to open them up a bit . Took my about an hour just clean them all up. I know its not your fault but there work is below standards i think.
Hey Chris, you mentioned that the dji air unit might not work with a 30x30 stack in the AOS 5. Will the HD zero freestyle vtx work with a 30x30 stack in the middle? If not I’ll probably go up to the 5.5 but I’d prefer the 5. Thanks
its a pretty tight fit. You will probably need a 20x20 stack in the middle
I have a 5” 1.2 EVO and the jello on the DJI cam (old air unit) is evident. Where can I get those stiffer plates? The silicon alone does not work.
That 180Hz resonance mode looking kinda hot not gonna lie
Haha! Lol.
Chris could you please share stock PID for the 5.5 v2 frame on Xing 2207 motors? Just put toogether all, but on "default" middle PID that drone flay like rock, and I got huge problem with propwash. I bought it from iFlight but unfortunetly they dont have any dump files on their Google Drive.
I am planning to use the 5.5 Frame for mid range flights. (2-3 km) Is this way of connecting the antennas enough for this range? Or do you need an other way of connecting the antennas like a tpu mount so that it can have more angle?
I haven't had any issues with range/penetration with mounting antennas to the arms. YMMV but there are antenna mounts for AOS frames on thingiverse. Anything for the AOS 5 or 5.5 will fit.
Hi Cris. Please, where can I find your personal setup for this quad? I purchased a bnf from iflight and I would appreciate if I could try your personal setup for this drone. Thanks
any idea how long the mipi cable for build with this frame + hdzero freestyle vtx would have to be?
What brand od proppelers you suggest for aos 5.5 evo version? Thanks
Hi Chris! What about ordering from the EU? When can you share info about it? I would love to order AOS 5 v2, but delivery from CNC Drones is a bit slow plus customs clearance with the local post office is quite difficult.
Farins frames in Italy should be producing the frame soon and EU shops will have stock too.
Nice looking frame! I have a sharkbyte/HDZero vtx, the TX5R.1 (the race vtx V1). It has 20 X 20 mounting but it's outer dimensions are 45mm in length and 27mm in width. Will this fit the AOS 5 V2? I would like to fit it in the back. Thanks for the help
Depending on the size of the FC and ESC you may need to use the front stack rather than the centre but everything should fit.
Hello Chris. Now with the new on Air unit,for the quads in this video ,can we for the unit in the rear with a full 30by 30 stack in the middle?I am asking because it's in srock now in Europe the V2 Version! Thank you
Yes. It's possible to use 30*30 stack in the middle with O3 in the rear in the AOS 5.
I would like to try ur frames, should i wait for Aos 3.5 v2?
Hi, i can mount 2306 motor 1750kv on 5.5 evo 1.2? For cinematic fpv. Thank you
Got a question regarding fc used in quad shown here. Have you compared one gyro vs twin gyro fusion in terms of noise ? Does it really help as much as it is advertised?
It doesn't help that much because most of the noise is real vibration from the motors that is picked up the same by both gyros. A frame with good vibration performance is more important.
Any video or print instructions on where all the bolts go on this 5.5 O3 Frame? Just got mine today and blown away not even a diagram!
There are some good pictures on aos-rc.com. It looks tricky at first but it's actually very simple to put together in the end. If you get into trouble just drop me an email from the website. Best advice is to use thread lock and not to overtighten the screws. 👍
@@ChrisRosser I got it together looking at your pictures. Thanks!
could you use graphite powder dry lube instead of grease?
Wouldn't you get bad video with the Air Unit antennas right next to the carbon?
Hi Chris, I just made my order yesterday and no color option was available, I just saw your video so I was thinking if now there's an option for the gold carbon fiber?
Coloured carbon may arrive this week. I'll post a video.
What's the best props recommended for the 5"?
Any thaughts on Toilet-Tank battery mount? Would be cool to have that option
I did consider it. For a 5" freestyle frame I really prefer 2 battery straps and that works best with the battery laid out lengthways. With a GoPro it's easier to get a central COG with a lengthwise battery for this geometry.
Are the 5.5" and 5" arms interchangable? I would like to test both with only swapping out the arms
Hey Chris when is the AOS 3.5 V2 and AOS 7 V2 going to release?
NICE !!!!!
I’m serious thinking I’m ordering mine now !!!!!
I have a question I’m pretty sure I heard you say that you use the Iflight 20 x 20 F7 stack. Have you experienced any freezing of your FPV feed with the DJI goggles? The reason why I ask is because I’ve built a vista nebula pro with a 20 x 20 T motor stack I use the 55 amp Tmotor ultra ESC and the F7 20 x 20 HD Tmotor flight controller. I was getting video freezing after flips and rolls occasionally very sporadically I install a 1000 UF capacitor and a fat techs bike absorber and I’m still getting video freezes on rare occasions and then switch to flight controller to the Aikon F7 20 x 20.
I am still getting the same result. I’m next going to attempt installing a 35 V 370 UF capacitor on my Vista unit I don’t know what else to do. I was thinking it might’ve had something to do with the BEC on most 20 x 20 flight controllers ?
I run 5&6 cell 2306.5 GepRC motors Mark 4 frame.
I've never had freezing of the video on fast flips and rolls I'm afraid. It will either be ESC/Motor related, a loose cable or faulty vista/camera. It's pretty hard to figure out what if it's only intermittent.
@@ChrisRosser well that is a good thing.
Do you run your vistas on 6S? Also is your esc and flight controller 20x20 ?
i dont understand how the spike absorber protects the esc's, when the voltage spike is coming from the motors up into the esc then out of the esc into the battery, so the spike absorber would be "protecting" the battery not the esc, because the esc is going to see the voltage spike unless you have the absorber between the motors and the esc. or am i missing something in my logic?
Chris, I just received the AOS 5 V-2 frame and and one of the camera plates wiggles, is that normal?
Hai cris, i'm aerial videographer,,, I want to bulid cinewhoop fpv like Viking media, (aos 5, shendrone duct) ,, so what you recomended? Aos 5 or aos 5,5 v1 or v2 for best cinewhoop..
Hey Chris, when will the colored carbon frames be available? I just went to the cnc drones link and they ask for standoff color but no frame color options.
I have two v1's flying great, so I have no urgency to get a v2 until there is a color option available
In a week or less.
is there a way to upgrade this so it fits a O3 air unit?
Hey frame looks awesome! Mine should be coming in soon, anybody find or make skids for the new arms?
Snagged one!
Hi Chris, what VTX antenna are you using?
iFlight Sigma UFL.
Hi Chris, how about designing a AOS 9 ?? There are absolutely no good frames on the market in this size besides the Merica 9. I tried many of they and they resonate horribly at low frequencies (~65hz).Only the Merica 9 has nearly no frame resonance, but it´s a typical true X racing frame. The macro quad community needs something with top mounted battery for freestyle and long range optimized for low resonance. A 9 or even 10 inch looking like the AOS 7 or 5 would be dope. I know, there are not many people out there flying these machines, some love would be great.